Any anons here remember the P4-15-NB? Has Q weighed in on this yet?
Search it with a SAFE usersession/shell and good proxies. They are Gray market equipment that was getting REALLY scary and weird google results back in 2016/2017 when knowledge of them first was leaked on the chans.
I'm going to try and get one, I've read some stuff on the darkweb about how they were exempted from the rules given to 'puter manufacturers, who were forced by the CIA to put backdoor chips in everything they made.
PS in hopes that Q can address this, I will leave this post with my nightly prayer for his safety and security of the people around him and our God-given POTUS Trump, and the pic I look at when praying. You don't have to type your prayers (I say them out loud) but it never hurts! G
Pre-92 stega hardware encryption…
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1101.4789.pdf
So these computers would be useful to communicate WITHOUT clowns having an easy time "listening in"
Yes. Use a secure browser (OP is a little paranoid) in incognito mode to search for the model number. I was around on the 'chans when this hit the first time. There were a lot of garbage results being dumped into Google to cloud research.
It's not an especially powerful computer from a processing power standpoint, but when you consider the potential uses for something that has NO hardware backdoors and also has BUILT IN cryptographic abilities, you can see why they command a pricetag on the 'black' market. The government 'demilitarized' them when they moved to new models, but a few hundred got sent to government liquidation and instead of being destroyed, they were 'demilitarized' according to the standard for a normal computer- hard drive removed, battery removed, and sold at auction, mixed in with other pallets of computers.
Legality: Technically legal to own, and it must drive the clowns INSANE to know that people are waking up to this tech. They have 0days for all kinds of hardware, even before the manufacturer has demos out being reviewed, and here's all these systems that used to be issued to spooks, that can't even be touched! LOL
You couldn't post about P4-15-NB on the chans for a while without being flooded out by shills trying to scare people away from them.
No use trying to run Skyrim on one but for hardsec BBS/chat communication, even basic audio calls over encrypted mesh networks, they would be absolutely unparalleled. And if you've seen any hacker's desktop, it isn't gaming graphics, it's a lot of text windows, usually with a black background.
There are some encrypted networks where people are doing deep dives into analysis of some things pertaining to Q, and posting some very interesting things.
For safety and security, those things stay in those places.. although they usually get slowly brought out in discussion here and other CBTS places. There are certain hardware encryption requirements to even get in the door and start reading. You either need massive technical abilities to build your own system, tens of thousands of dollars to buy one off the shelf, or find one of these military systems that slipped through the cracks. A lot of people are choosing the 3rd option… if they can find one.
Also- it would be very useful for generating uncrackable Tripcodes.
TY baker
OOOPS wrong thread! too many tabs!
Isn't this the scam that CBTS (Pamphlet & Baruch) we peddling at inflated prices supported byh meaningless claims about their security?
They are just army surplus,
encrypted networks,,, deep dives….
Hocus Pocus meant to fool the technically uninformed.
Hardware encryption requirements hahaha
If that is true what encryption algorithm is it using
If you are talking about SiphrNet you are purely repeating bullshit, and have no idea how it was built, managed and how it is architected.
I call bullshit - Your last sentence is 100 untrue
1) you couldn't build one without knowing what it required
2) The military doesn't sell crypto gear "at salvage" unless is is from WWII
This is why normies ( who actually know about these things) laugh at the bullshit posted here
>Isn't this the scam that CBTS (Pamphlet & Baruch) we peddling at inflated prices supported byh meaningless claims about their security?
You can't find these things for sale in normal areas so your assertions are 100% false.
Interesting that you only have to talk about one of these things for a few minutes before a disinfo shill shows up….
That is the story CBTS was peddling, right?
It is all fake. to take suckers money
Sounds like you know as much about encryption as you do about what trump had for lunch today
Nothing!
If you want a critique about your misinformation let me know
56-bit DES is the same nomater what platform is used on. It is a standard (old) algorithm.
2^56 bit long binary number, with a standard mechanism to engrypt and decrytp (e.g. for 8 char password/tripcode
>That is the story CBTS was peddling, right?
Nope… NO YOUTUBERS or STREAMERS have discussed these… You are entirely full of shit, shill, and the fact that you're lying about one thing means you're lying about everything else.
By all means, spend all your money on them.
I could careless if you get ripped of by your own stupidity.
Buy them all now, then tell me how much you can do with them.
That is all the proof I offer to dumb asses
Spend your money & prove me wrong.
Apparently some here think they are very valuable
Buy now - going fast!!!!
See - now I shill for the hucksters.
Happy?
Show me one person who was selling these in CBTS, you lying piece of shit
Someday you and the people you work for will be lynched in the street, shill.
https://archive.is/wNr4l
BROADCOM FOUNDER BILLIONAIRE BUSTED IN LAS VEGAS … FOR ROOM STOCKED WITH DRUGS
….who makes the wireless modem that is in 99% of computers?????
BROADCOM
BOOM!!
I'll be waiting.
Shall I buy beer for the lynch mob?
Will you be leading them big boy??
Do the big kids still steal your lunch money?
Lynch them too
Still waiting for any PROOF OF YOUR LIES, SHILL
Show us all where CBTS crew posted anything about these systems
Since there boars was banned from Reddit, this was the best I could do.
Now that you have been humiliated in front of fellow anons
You can SMD the GTFO, shill!!!!!!
BTW You Mom called and said you need to bring her dress and underwear back ASAP.
She has a date, so you will have to find another outfit
Oh wow, all you found were more posts by shills like you
Still no ACTUAL EVIDENCE
I can go around saying you're a tranny dicksucker down by the railway tracks, doesn't make it proof that you're giving blowjobs until someone actually shows you, giving beejs for quarters
The shill is you, the one that post bullshit about encryption but knows nothing real.
You said:
"Show us all where CBTS crew posted anything about these systems"
I did. so that makes you the shill.
You gonna show us another of your sophisticated temper tantrums?
You better scurry back to your safe space and take your Prozac.
You might burst a blood vessel and accidentally KYS
And I decided to go to the pages you showed in the screenshot- standard shill tactic, use images so people have a harder time going to the actual page to check facts.
First link: someone mentions being invited to the qanon discussion on that website, the post in that thread about the P4-15-NB is UNRELATED to CBTS.
Second link: A poster there is asking why archive.is is blocked on the website. Someone else posts a link to a "want to buy" ad in that thread.
Third link: someone is reposting a cuckchan copypasta that they found on cuckchan- one that sound suspiciously similar to the shill narrative you're pushing.
Not to mention, why are you searching for ar15 specifically? Pushing the "ar15.com is the source of qanon" conspiracy theory?
And I decided to go to the pages you showed in the screenshot- standard shill tactic, use images so people have a harder time going to the actual page to check facts.
First link: someone mentions being invited to the qanon discussion on that website, the post in that thread about the P4-15-NB is UNRELATED to CBTS.
Second link: A poster there is asking why archive.is is blocked on the website. Someone else posts a link to a "want to buy" ad in that thread.
Third link: someone is reposting a cuckchan copypasta that they found on cuckchan- one that sound suspiciously similar to the shill narrative you're pushing.
Not to mention, why are you searching for ar15 specifically? Pushing the "ar15.com is the source of qanon" conspiracy theory?
>You said:
>"Show us all where CBTS crew posted anything about these systems"
>I did. so that makes you the shill.
NONE OF THOSE WERE CBTS CREW, YOU SHILL
Take a chill pill anon, the shill is QPredictedPiss (reddit) QPredictedThis (twitter). Note his reddit spacing, his obsession with ar15.com, and his definition of “CBTS crew” to include anyone who looked at a Q dump once.
He is one of the people pushing the theory to discredit these systems and has been spreading it ever since they came out. Just ignore him. He thinks he’s head shill since Jack Posobiec tweeted out his Reddit manifesto on how we’re all scamming people with a laptop that doesn’t even get sold outside the dark web.
Guess you missed that 3rd one that refers to "hyped up again by the CBTS "insiders"
Who would those "insider" be.
Mane calling is so "autistic" of you - the sign of a weak mind
I found your standard response when you get outed, along with your logo with selfie.
Enjoy your prolonged misery.
Glad I could provide you some more.
BTW - Q didn't weigh in on the P4-15-NB.
He told me to tell you it was only a CBTS & Clown scam, to phish suckers like you.
>that 3rd one that refers to "hyped up again by the CBTS "insiders"
You mean the cuckchan copypasta I referred to? The one with no basis in facts whatsoever?
Everything you posted had no facts, only incorrect opinions about network security and encryption but I already posted refutation of those.
Note: Your incorrect belief and opinion does not equal "facts"
You offered no proof of any of it.
Apparently you didn't even realize it with your head firmly up your ass?
You are too boring, - think I'll go look for a smarter adversary.
You are too easy to whip into a frenzy
Yeah that’s what I thought
If you AREN’T QPredictedPiss (you probably still are tho) maybe go ask him for some more talking points cause you seem to have swallowed his main ones hook line and sinker LMAO
And if you aren’t him you’re basically a cuckold repeating another shills ideas instead of your own
>Use a secure browser (OP is a little paranoid) in incognito mode to search for the model number.
Incognito mode offers zero protection.
Either Tor browser, or proxy up with plenty of security add-ons and a spoofer (and no, don't use fucking Chrome). Going Incognito is like wearing a bag over your head for invisibility: it doesn't work, and it doesn't do what most people expect it to do.
>Sounds like you know as much about encryption as you do about what trump had for lunch today
Sounds like you made an uninformed assessment of the situation.
But I wouldn't expect anything less from mil-int.
I know Media Matters don't give a shit and your pretend tough guy attitude screams 'military male'.
American. Southern.
Just need to work out what department.
Tough guy attitude would suggest front-line work, so I'm guessing HUMINT.
I suppose all we need to know is which department ordered the chips and we'll know where you're from.
Don't need no backdoor to suss your ass.
>I'll be waiting.
At least he admits he's a shill. No work to be done exposing this guy.
Thanks for confirming it's not a scam.
You should lay off the alcohol, it affects your judgement.
>Everything you posted had no facts, only incorrect opinions about network security and encryption but I already posted refutation of those.
Pro-tip from one shill hunter to another: shills purpose is to distract you, waste time, drive you off-topic, bait, ad hominem and do everything they can to stop you from covering the topic.
Your technique should be simple:
1) Expose as shill (done it for you, no need for any further work)
2) Return to topic and dig out as much in-depth research
Their attacks should provoke you to provide even more quality research. In turn it discourages the attacks.
My money is he's from the NSA (they always seem to breed arrogant know-it-all pieces of shit) and this backdoor hardware is their own designs along the lines of the clipper chip or the Intel Management Engine.
Keep digging into it. His only job is to 'scare off' people from adopting the technology (they're trying to prevent their intel stream from 'going dark'). Most people can sense his emotional desperation and rhetoric, and cold hard facts coupled with curiousity will always win out.
He must not know the human race very well because calling something a scam doesn't stop most people from adopting it (think of how much money people waste on useless shit that doesn't work or bad investment schemes or tax money gobblers like that guy).
So continue ahead. Just be sure to provide quality research, facts, links and other interesting useful information: it'll sharply contrast against his verbal bullshit and people are smart enough to see for themselves.
Don't bother 'winning' the argument because he's wasting his fat ass until retirement and isn't worth winning over. If he was a true patriot he'd defend the innocent citizens against being spied upon by a Stasi like government.
Thanks man, these shills are out of control.
Q certainly is hinting at something MILITARY GRADE…
Holy fuuuuuck we're on to something here!!!
IMMEDIATELY after I posted this 8ch went under attack and my router went CRAZY. I had to turn it on and off.
Prayers
Q if you are reading this, please confirm that the DS/Cabal are afraid of us learning more on this subject, we are following the crumbs!!!!!!!
Here you go:
What they were scared of…
Um, no? I can't really understand what you think you did here. Coming in and acting like you contributed something and saying "here you go." when we already know what post triggered the attack. You screenshotted a bunch of shit, including shills.
It was this one
As is observed here:
Every link to this thread was pointing that out, and linking DIRECTLY to those individual posts, so I'm not sure how you missed that.
Please engage your brain before posting again and "trying to help." Maybe leave this to the real autists, ok?
Damn. You’re the most interesting poster I’ve seen post outside of Q. Wish I could buy you a beer
Anyone know anything else about these?
Make that co-planar and I'll buy TWO.
>>>2550057
>>Use a secure browser (OP is a little paranoid) in incognito mode to search for the model number.
>Incognito mode offers zero protection.
>Either Tor browser, or proxy up with plenty of security add-ons and a spoofer (and no, don't use fucking Chrome). Going Incognito is like wearing a bag over your head for invisibility: it doesn't work, and it doesn't do what most people expect it to do.
TAILS The Amnesiac Incognito Linux Shit
(spouseanon brought home some booze and I am, very atypically, drunk. I rarely drink at all … but Hurricanes taste pretty good and pack an unexpected kick. It's a sneaky chick drink with balls.
C_A, if you want me, you've got about an hour!)
Be aware that some sites apparently won't allow the use of TOR. Not sure how they detect it, but I suspect that they are simply filtering entire countries for reason of copyright laws or treaties.
IMHO (I'm still drunk) TOR needs to move up to a user-selectable (or randomly chosen) bounce count of at least three and perhaps as many as 7 AND allow the intermediate servers to add 1-3 additional bounces unknown to the original sender. I think that having routes of unpredictable and variable length would throw a wrench into the timing attacks. For instance, as a relay, every 20 minutes I could roll the dice and use the mod of a random number (or any point within that number) to determine how many bounces the next packet would take.
That makes for craziness for anyone trying to identify that packet based on its origin and destination times.
TOR can be slow, but it's the best, apparently, available at the moment. VPNs are inexpensive to run. Most of the commercial ones are owned by the alphabet agencies and are totally ineffective as a means to mask your identity.
TAILS (imperfect) and pre-arranged multiple layers of encryption look to be the best generally available at the moment. Also, encrypt everything … even unimportant crap … just to increase the volume of encrypted traffic past the point where it can be decrypted in a timely fashion.
I don't care if my plan to rule the universe one crumb at a time is decrypted so long as I am already dead of natural causes at an advanced age when it happens.
The more encrypted traffic there is, the less any of it stands out.
First my recipe for chocolate chip cookies has to be identified from the chaff of other recipes and THEN I want a successful decryption to look exactly like a failed decryption. Multiple layers of varying length keys makes for a very long time to decryption.
Rule of thumb? By the time you see anything in the MSM (including the tech media) it's probably broken.
I'm a boomer, and I find it impossible to get my millennial family to use encryption. AT ALL. And no, "Telegraph" isn't secure.
FWIW
Since we are talking computer security …
Older computers do not have compromised hardware and Linux will run on it.
As for your phones? Find a source of older phones and root them with Linux.
HELLO … if you want secure communications you will have to expend a little effort and tolerate some inconveniences.
With only a couple CPU foundries in the world, at the moment, there is no way to buy your way out of the problem by buying modern hardware.
The reason my ZTE is on the no-no list is because it sends my details to China, not Ciana. At the moment, I think I'm safer with my data in China (not part of 5Is). That may change.
That is all.
they look like Faraday cages.
Q made a few more nods to this thread.
Look at drops.
"Military Grade."
This is the first post I've read on this thread and it is so fucking ignorantly structured that I can tell it is in Streisand effect inducing outsider.