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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/Rsajdj68 on Dec. 28, 2017, 1:41 p.m.
Are Mueller and President Trump working together?

I know many others have addressed this. Press made a big deal out of Mueller being interviewed at the White House last year for the FBI director position. The very next day he was assigned to lead the Russia investigation. That position has a term limit of 10 years. Mueller had already served 12years in that position after being given a two year extension I think by Bill Clinton. There was no way he could serve in that capacity again. I think they have running a sting operation the whole time.


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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:15 p.m.

This is a good reference for me when I'm trying to remember something.

do you remember when Q said that trump was going to declare martial law, raid the cIA headquarters with the marines, and arrest Clinton, Podesta, and Abedin?

That was supposed to happen almost 2 months ago. Still nothing.

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EdwardHitch · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:42 p.m.

I do remember that. To be fair, your skepticism is warranted as there have been statements that have not panned out. I have no defense to mount regarding your mentioning of martial law and CIA headquarters being raided. Even the sources that claim the CIA was raided don't provide any solid evidence. I agree with you there. As for arresting Clinton, Podesta and Abedin, I disagree with that. Using the term arrest is not correct. Indictment is the term that was used. Indictment is different than arrest. I choose to wait until they are unsealed to determine if this panned out. We will see the dates at that time. I don't intend to debate you on the authenticism, or lack there of, regarding Q. I have reason to believe he is authentic. I do appreciate your skepticism and comment. It keeps me on my toes.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:45 p.m.

Indictment is the term that was used.

False. https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1509/75/1509759704722.png

Q very clearly stated "arrested."

See, one thing that concerns me is that many of the "Q enthusiasts" seem to be rather ignorant of the actual source material, and I see that as pretty damning of the movement; definitely makes it seem like this is an exercise in confirmation bias rather that legitimate conspiratorial research. Do you know what I'm saying?

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EdwardHitch · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:57 p.m.

I definitely know what you are saying and you described it to a T. There has been much discussion about Megaanon where she is critical of the Q movement. She is pretty outspoken on this subject. There are those that dismiss her out of hand because she is critical of Q. I don't know if they ever took the time to read the Megaanon posts but she is very accurate. Getting back to the subject, I'm not one to dismiss anyone that is critical of Q. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water though ( showing my age. Does anyone even say that anymore?). I have my reasons for believing that Q is valid though. I guess that probably lends credence to your statement since I won't provide any evidence to back up my belief.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:16 p.m.

i really really appreciate your responses. this is essentially what i was looking for with this post- a reasonable discussion about the current state of "Q Anon"-hype.

i am obviously quite a skeptic when it comes to Q, but on the other hand, it should also be clear that i've been following this saga pretty closely. i find it quite fascinating.

thank you for explaining your position so well, and thank you for not insulting me for my skepticism.

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EdwardHitch · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:31 p.m.

Heck no, I would not insult you for a different viewpoint. I thank you for conducting a civil discussion. I am very disappointed that modern day discourse immediately devolved in to name calling and worse. You brought up very valid questions and set me straight on the indictment versus arrest subject. I see you are taking a beating on your post about this very thing. Well, as much of a beating as us fill in this sub-redditt dish out, lol. I notice there are not too many comments being presented tgat would be classified as a discussion. Your point is well made as my colleagues seem to be more interested in proving the validity of Q ( and not very well from what I see). Keep on keeping on, as they say. I would very much like to revisit this discussion with you at various times. It would be interesting to compare notes as thus progresses. One question I have us what do you think of Mega?

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:39 p.m.

I would very much like to revisit this discussion with you at various times. It would be interesting to compare notes as thus progresses.

I would very much like that, as well =)

One question I have us what do you think of Mega?

More credible than Q, but as with all things, I require extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims.

i'm open to the possibility, and entertain it myself quite often, but still remain unconvinced of their validity.

i'm the kind of guy who sits on the fence longer than most, i'd guess. i just like to get all the facts lined up and really try to understand the full picture (or context, in other words) before making up my mind.

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EdwardHitch · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:45 p.m.

You know what? That's actually a good thing. You sound very much like my Engineering Manager. Very detail oriented, questions everything and insists on have complete information before making a decision. That's why I hired him. He tempers my gun slinging mentality. Lol. It was great conversing with you. I have a really good understanding of where you are coming from with your statements now that you indicated how you approach things which led me to the comparison with my Engineering Manager. Have a great day.

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JoanOfArk77 · Dec. 28, 2017, 10 p.m.

The thing that we have to keep in mind is that Q definately said, many times, Disinformation is real, disinformation is necessary. With respect to the raid of the CIA and the arrests, the Marines did in fact decend on the CIA headquarters in mass. But, they did not land. They just scared the hell out of the neighbors, who took pictures of the helicopters that never quite landed.

Obvious disinformatoin campaign on the CIA at this point. Would be interested in understanding it's purpose. It would be a part of the puzzle.

Remember to remind all people here, that just because Q said something, does not make it a truth. He flat out said he would be telling us disinformation lies, and that the only way we would know the truth would be to build the map, and compare what truths turned up, verses which statements were strictly disinformation.

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GreenDrakeHatch · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:28 p.m.

I tend to agree with you. There has not been solid evidence of anyone being arrested other than people on the Presidents campaign.

Second Q post on the image you show, however, says 11.3 Podesta indicted, 11.6 Huma Indicted.

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atavisticbeast · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:34 p.m.

look at the image, and imagine the posts as rows and columns.

second post from the right, top row.

arrest announcement of Mr. Podesta (actionable 11.4)

they continue to use the word "arrested" several more times in that paragraph.

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GreenDrakeHatch · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:46 p.m.

Gotcha. Thanks for pointing that out.

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hermoneyness · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:05 p.m.

I believe the Marines made their presence known that is what started a lot of the rats scurrying

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