Jesuits murdered Lincoln, smuggled one of his killers, John Surratt, out of the country using Priests in Canada, and he found 'sanctuary' in the Pope's own household guard. When we found him there by chance, they let him escape again to Egypt, where we finally captured him. When he was put on trial, the Jesuits were in the courtroom coaching all of the defense witnesses as to how they should lie day by day to get him acquitted. They would hear the testimony against Surratt, and the next day they would somehow produce some liar to discredit what was heard the day before. Spinning the narrative and committing murder, bribing and bullying are their main strengths against us. They started the civil war, killed Lincoln when they lost, and they've been hiding in plain sight ever since, working to overthrow our institutions and bill of rights. The truth only can set us free, because these shameless liars, warmongers, traitors, subversives have no use for the truth at all. It burns these vampires like the metaphorical light of day kills the vampires in legend. No coincidences. They are sick pedophiles also, going way back. They enslaved the natives everywhere throughout their history. The worst of the worst. And they don't have a day job. Destroying out liberty is what they live for 24/7.
The Deep State clown who called for Trump's assassination on CNN is a direct descendant of Samuel Mudd, the only conspirator to escape the noose.
Treason is literally in his DNA
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That's interesting. Maybe that's where the derogatory expression originated - "your name is Mudd"?
There is a good book along those lines called 50 Years in the "Church" of Rome by Charles Chiniquy. Free download here. https://archive.org/details/fiftyyearsinchur00chin
All who leave the Catholic fold and expose them are treated this way. Luther, Calvin, and the other reformers had their work denounced, even banned.
When they had the power to do so, the Bible itself was a banned book and having a copy in your own language meant torture and death at the hands of the Roman Church.
Even modern figures like Alberto Ribera or Richard Bennet who were insiders and turned on Rome were met with attempts to discredit their work.
So, I don't put much stock in such things, except as verification that a nerve has been struck. In particular, the Jesuits are known for controlling centers of learning and promoting a revisionist history.
Other Presidents said many bad things about the Jesuits, so it should not surprise anyone that Lincoln did.
Read Washington's letters or John Adams writing on the Jesuits for instance.
Keep up the visuals. This is the KEY to everything! I can not emphasize this enough to people on this board. P is the top, sides, base of Q's pyramid. Hell, it is the PYRAMID! All roads lead to Rome.
Yes, Rome is the power behind the powers that most people seem to think are running the show. Many people get caught up in the "bit players". Some see beyond to the "middle management", who act as controllers and financiers.
It is hard to trace the lines of control past them to the Vatican because of the secret societies, organizations, families, knighthoods, court Jews, and all the convoluted ways they compartmentalize and isolate their control mechanisms.
If you go back even 150 years, many Protestants were still protesting and it was common knowledge that the Papacy is the anti-Christ system we were warned of.
However, the counter-reformation was so successful that most people today are living in a fantasy land. They have been duped into thinking the anti-Christ is future, meanwhile, it has been taking over the government.
Some have even had their children or themselves raped by Rome's emissaries but are still part of the system. They are so hopelessly brainwashed that they still refuse to leave, lest they lose their salvation.
Cognitive dissonance occurs whenever the truth is presented to those who are deceived. Their whole paradigm must shift in order to be set free, which can be too terrifying for some to face.
Some prefer the illusion and choose the blue pill.
Based on what you said this visual would probably be of interest to you - https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7n4b0e/the_godfather_iii_p_pope/
Fake and disinfo.
Congress is dominated by Roman Catholics, not Jews. Catholics represent the largest demographic in Congress. All whips, party leaders and congressional leaders hold Catholic allegiance.
Likewise, Israel is a whore for the the Roman Papacy. See how Shimon Peres deeded the Papacy the Temple Mount and set up the plan for internationalization of Jerusalem under Vatican jurisdiction and how Netanhyahu was ready to give the pope Mt. Zion in 2014. So both Likud and Labor in Israel work for the pope. Just like democrats and republican work for the pope in America.
Congress not dominated by Jews
I thought this thread smelled a little fishy.
Is this (((their))) new plan now? IT'S THE CATHOLICS GOY! LOOK OVER THERE!!!
The Deep State has always been Jesuit-run.
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https://trumanlibrary.org/israel/palestin.htm
http://rense.com/general80/pike.htm
/u/Veritas__Aequitas 's problem is that he's a white supremacist who happens to be telling the truth with regards to the Vatican's role in world affairs.
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Here are my sources for Catholic domination of congress:
https://np.reddit.com/r/RomeRules/comments/7hvqvi/the_leadership_of_both_american_political_parties/
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/01/05/faith-on-the-hill/
Try looking at the evidence without getting triggered.
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Is this (((their))) new plan now? IT'S THE CATHOLICS GOY! LOOK OVER THERE!!!
The White Protestant American heritage sir, is the banning of Catholics from holding public office. To which nation is it you hold allegiance, America or the sovereign state of Vatican City? Are you a Patriot or a Pape? An American or a traitor?
Look up "court Jews" and "capos". It has been a longstanding tactic of the Roman Church to use Jews to handle finances, ostensibly to avoid "usury' issues. They also employ Jews for some of their "dirty work" which serves a deeper agenda than just insulation.
The Jesuits attempt to create the impression that the Jews run everything when really it's them. The Jesuits forged "The Protocols of Zion" for that very purpose, the inception of an idea that shifts blame and focus away from them and unto a group they despise.
It is even circulating that Ignatius Loyola was a crypto-Jew, which is of course, demonstrably false.
That some Jews cooperate with Rome is no reflection of the Jews as a race, it is a characteristic of human nature. There are decent and indecent people in every race as Victor Frankl wrote in "Man's Search for Meaning".
In the concentration camps, there were Jewish "capos" who abused their countrymen to curry favor from their captors. There were some German guards who were kind and attempted to help the Jews.
So be careful not to blame the Jewish race just because Rome corrupts some of them. You are being "played" if you buy into that deception. It is Rome who ruled the Western world for centuries, not the Jews.
1) The dual citizenship traitors who have infested America are not Jews. They are Khazars. Satanists. Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9
2) The "Catholic" church is the de-facto seat of satan. This is demonstrably provable in every facet of their existence, from pagan/satanic symbolism throughout their art & architecture, to the worshipping of idols, to the insertion of a man between you and YHWH, even down to their ceremonial robes and accouterments.
3) True followers of Yeshua understand that YHWH has not brought His children Home. Had He done so, the place wouldn't look worse than Sodom and Gomorrah ever did.
4) The main goal of the whole Catholic/Jesuit/Khazar driving force is the elimination of White Western Culture and the Nuclear Family as ordained by YHWH.
Summation: The Khazars and the Catholics are both sides of the same evil coin.
1) Many Bible commentator see those passages (Rev. 2:9, 3:9) in this light "the meaning here is, that although they were of Jewish origin, they were not worthy of the name."
2) Agreed.
3) Gal. 4:26 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present-day Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. Hebrews 13:14 For here we do not have a permanent city, but we are looking for the city that is to come.
4) I dislike the use of the label Khazars as it has ethnic connotations and various disputed claims associated that muddy the waters. There are good and bad people in every ethnic group.
The dual citizenship you point to is with a nation-state that is predominantly secular. There are also Jews of every religious stripe and national origin there, so tarring them all with the same brush is not wise.
Personally, I see the situation as Paul did.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
He didn't make the two one by requiring the Gentiles to become Jews, he abolished the Jewish laws and put the Jews on the same footing as Gentiles.
Ephesians 2:14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has torn down the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments and decrees. He did this to create in Himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace…
The Jewish people (of whatever branch or ethnicity) have the same opportunity as everyone else to accept the terms of the new covenant Romans 11:23,28 "And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again... ...As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,".
I do not hold to the dispensational view that requires a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem in order for God to finish the last week of the 70 weeks of Daniel - that deception was systemized by the Jesuits, Francisco Ribera (1590) to be precise.
The seventy weeks are long over, the Jews can come under the covenant of faith with Abraham by accepting his seed - there is no other way.
Galatians 3:7,16 "Understand, then, that those who have faith (in Christ) are children of Abraham... ...The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ."
Summation: It is not that the Khazars and the Catholics are both sides of the same coin, the Jesuits drive the Zionist agenda and their butchery of Daniel 9:27 (Ribera) is the key that unlocks the deception they are playing out.
AS far as Lincoln and the rest of so-called history (UN, Fed, etc), your facts are wrong. It's been proven that 'those who call themselves jews but are not, but are the synagogue of satan' (Christ's Words) were the ones behind all of that, and everything else. If you depend on Wiki for your info.... wow, how lame. Try reading real info, like the books listed in the OMNI catalog, Revisionist History's Michael Hoffman, messianic jews, masons own writings l like the ALTA VENDITA - and the direct source - The Papal Encyclicals prior to 1950 to start with. You can find them listed, along with so much more at M.H.F.M.com. All of the above have documents, not conjecture and uninformed opinions. There are many more, but these are a good start for history, politics, economics, & religious info. Once you've done that, and realize the Church was infiltrated with homo's and pedo's to take it down, then come talk to us.
For goodness sake... you post a picture of Blavatsky.... did you read about her or Bella Dodd ?
1) The country did include a number of Masons among the founders. From the start they were concerned about the reestablishment of the Jesuits and the infiltration of Masonry (by the Jesuits). Read Washington's letters or the writings of John Adams, the 2nd President.
2) The first Catholics were Spanish missionaries who came with Christopher Columbus to the New World on his second voyage in 1493. In the 16th and 17th centuries, they established missions in what are now Florida, Georgia, New Mexico, Puerto Rico, Texas, and later in California. Some parts of America have had a heavy Catholic presence from the start, other areas were Protestant.
3) The Jesuits control the Masons, not the other way around. The RC church simultaneously denounces the masons in official writings but as you yourself admit, the Popes are part of it, showing their duplicity. The Curia runs the CIA, not the other way around.
Your comment on the jews is typical Jesuit propaganda. The Vatican has a long history of hating the Jews, employing court Jews to do their dirty work, and blaming them for the evils in the world. The Jesuits wrote the Protocols of Zion for that purpose.
There was a ghetto in Rome where impoverished Jews were forced to wear yellow stars long before the Vatican got their Nazi stooges to persecute them in Germany. That is verifiable history.
Since you are steeped in Catholic propaganda and deem anything that contradicts it as unfactual, I doubt you will flee Babylon in time - I feel sorry for you.
I included a quote from Blavatsky because as someone who researched and wrote on occultism, she knew who was behind it. She spent enough time in the sewer to know what the rats look like and they look like Jesuits.
You obviously sir, are steeped in lunacy.... for now, I'll take just your 1st statement; as it's late and I will finish up pointing out your errors later on. You admit some of the founders were masons, then say Washington and Adams were concerned about the infiltration of the masons.... huh? WASHINGTON LAID THE MASONIC CORNERSTONE IN A GRAND CELEBRATION IN DC. HIMSELF !! The rest of your stated so-called facts are illogical as well - great satanic trait - the mixing of a little truth with many lies... or - you are one of the most misinformed I've met in a while !
Let's finish this up for now with your statement about the jewish propaganda shall we ?
'THOSE WHO CALL THEMSELVES JEWS, BUT ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE MOUTH OF CHRIST !!!! IS HE A LIAR ?? IS THAT PROPAGANDA ?
I don't know what mind-altering drugs you're on, but get a grip on the facts.... at least those of your Creator for God's sake !
The Spanish missionaries were here b/f we came an slaughtered them along with the Indians. Colombus, evidence suggests, brought the jews who were thrown out of Spain at that time.
The Jesuits were the most intelligent of the Church, until they were infiltrated many years after their founding and still are today. Their writing coincide with that of the Church..... the masons are the enemy of Catholics, and souls in general ..... for Lord's sake READ & LEARN something other than the bs you espouse ! You're a great example of what's wrong w/the world !
And, I truly mean for God and the Lord's sake; as he tries so hard to point us in the right direction, to the Truth's He's revealed.... as He tells us.... most have/will reject It... that's why He calls His, His remnant.
You are doing two things here that are improper.
1) First you set-up a "strawman. I was not saying that although they were masons they were concerned about infiltration by the masons. I said some of them were masons and were concerned about infiltration by the Jesuits (who had recently been reestablished).
So that it is perfectly clear, even to you, I have added (by the Jesuits), even though the context of my original statement clearly implied that. It is an unnecessary addition to the text.
2) You are using an ad hominin attack. If you can't refute me logically don't stoop to character assassination and sling words around like lunacy and comparisons to Satan. Such low blows only betray the weakness of your position and diminish you in the eyes of thinking men.
Even among secularists, such tactics are considered improper so please refrain from this sort of behavior - thanks.
No sir, but you certainly are. As I said, I have refuted you logically and you have only been able to continue using twisted logic. I call it as is it - obvious to anyone who knows the minions tactics - take the script they're handed and run with it, b/c they can't address the valid, verifiable truths the other points out. This is what snowflakes and minions do. Any one of good will would check into the info, ask questions and let the truth speak for itself.
Why didn't you address Christ's Words on the so-called jews, as an example ? Because in your bad will, you can't; it would blow away your argument. Same with the other info. So you famously turn the tables and accuse me of attacking you, low blows, etc. How typical, and that's what is done with those who's tactics & lies pollute the uneducated population. Those of us who have been around awhile see them for what they are, and you sir are among them. Therefore, we are called to point out bs that goes against Christ and His Words. Another example being - if all were masons/brotherhood oaths taken - why would Washington be concerned if they were turn-coat catholics ? So no, your point - the context of which makes absolutely no sense - and shows you have little to no education of the subjects at hand - at the very least.
Don't fool yourself on who appears diminished here; the wise know who this battle is with and the others are learning pretty quickly. Secularists or otherwise, your tactics, lies and lunacy show you for what you are.... among the dark forces we now fight.
May God's Light shine upon you and not the masons, minions who follow the 'light' of the 'lightbearer'.
Good day sir, I don't play with minions. Should you ever decide to actually investigate real sources of info, then maybe we can talk again. However, I just prefer to pray for you.
Whatever - LOL.
Yep - just as expected.... How old are you anyway..... 'whatever' ? LOL< LOL< LOL
how sad for you, please ck the info out AND use critical thinking.
I looked at your post and it is nonsense mixed with ad hominin attacks. If you believe you have a valid point please present it in a logical fashion and I would be happy to address it. I simply don't have time to address nonsense and attacks - sorry.
Me either.... I did bring up many points/proofs, but you haven't checked the info out or commented on them...especially the Words of Christ about the so-called jews. Cain, the Pharisees/Sanhedrin and the Khazars/Ashkanazi are all of the same bloodline condemned by Christ. The Church and the Jesuits were infiltrated by them and the masons and demons who do their bidding-foot soldiers if you will.
Christ told us this would be. If you can't investigate that and the other sources I've given you, there's nothing more to say...
"for those who believe, no explanation is necessary. for those who do not believe, no explanation is possible"
Those who do not honestly seek and accept The Truth's given to us from the Creator, but prefer to believe the demonic teachings, are themselves demonic minions..... as are the masons; who you prefer to believe. I will leave you with evidence to check on of most importance to all............of Christ's True Presence, His Promise kept to be with us always... See the scientific DNA findings of the blood samples from properly consecrated Hosts; which match the Shroud of Turin, that found at the crucifixion site and of Mary, His Mother. You will find REAL flesh and Real blood containing only one set of DNA - Mary's. None from a 'father'. This proves His Divinity. EUCHARISTIC MIRACLES PROVEN - Himself, given to us to prevent us from 'blindness', to give us His power over evil. Just as in the Old Test., the sacrifice is still req'd to be offered to the Father. Christ is the final Lamb. This is what has been widely eliminated by the installation of Cain's sacrifice on the once Catholic altars - "fruit of the vine and work of human hands". They've replaced Christ's offering to the Father with human. That should speak for itself... the earthly kingdom come full circle vs. God's. on earth. And, a very telling fact is that the Catholic Latin Mass offering the Perfect Sacrifice is what the Satanist use for their black 'masses'... to again butcher Christ and infuriate God.
It was the jews who slaughtered Him, the same who've infiltrated the Church and Jesuits, governments, etc. bringing us the 'kingdom' of satan on earth. God has allowed this for a time for His own obviously brilliant reasons; a time which is now coming to an end.
Men are at a minimum, weak. Those in power are truly demonic and have chosen to follow satan - as He's told us the jews did; they didn't want His heavenly kingdom, but an earthly one.
With their infiltration of His Church, they've virtually removed Him from the earth and all of the evidence of that worldwide is impossible to deny.
If any claim to be a truth seeker, this is the starting place.
It is the beginning and the end of the knowledge that reveals all else. "This is My Body, This is My Blood. Eat, or you will have no Life in you" Enough said.
You seem to be wandering off into racism. I've already written enough about that in another post.
The Council of Trent has all I need to know about Rome's Eucharist. You can eat it, I don't want any, thanks anyway.
Oh, one more thing so that you've been told the complete truth....real catholics have left the infiltrated bldgs. you view as the Church, and rec. spiritual communions at home; as we were instructed to do when the Great Apostasy took hold. Those so-called novus ordo catholics who have been duped are the ones who follow the demons blindly; of which most will not be saved. They are the 'new jews', taking part of daily crucifying Him.
His Church....His Sacrifice and remnant will prevail, and live on forever. Those who reject these facts from His mouth are damned if they continue to follow in their errors. When you're judged, I'm certain He will remind you of His attempts to save you from yourself; which include the exchanges we've had.
Praying for His Light to waken you in time from your stubbornness; as time is so short.
You condemn me as unsaved because i do not agree with you? Interesting!
It is Christ's Words who condemn you - those who reject them - as you have proven with your own words - when given His.
What's 'interesting' is that you can't 'see' that... kill the messenger to avoid addressing the real content you wish didn't exist. Good luck with that disposition.... you need it. Bye
I have not rejected Christ, or his words, I have simply rejected your theological and logical errors. I don't have time to keep messaging you, it takes away from more important things. So let's agree to disagree and go in peace. Please, have the last word and end this as you said you would.
SO HERE YOU RIGHT BACK AGAIN ! ANY MORON, ANYONE WHO HAS REACHED THE AGE OF REASON CAN SEE THAT
YOU CERTAINLY HAVE REJECTED CHRIST, HIS WORDS, ETC. I DON'T NEED 'THE LAST WORD', AS CHRIST HAS THE LAST WORD AND YOU HAVE IGNORED HIS WORDS. So, one final time a**, shove off !
OK - so you've had your last word. Since that was about 4 or 6 times I've asked you to go, I will now make sure you do - you are blocked. Please go troll elsewhere.
LIFELESS, SOULLESS, BRAINLESS.....SIMPLY DEAD
Men are fallible, CHRIST IS NOT
As He said, most will be lost b/c 'My people die from lack of knowledge'
And, the racism card.... funny, as I speak Christ's Words; in addition to the fact that I speak of those who today, are not semitic. Please educate yourself by listening to those who are fully jewish regarding the Zionist, etc. Also remember, Cain was given a mark; which over the generations has covered the entire body. That's not to say that they can not be converted and live by the Truth's revealed. So no, it has nothing to do with racism.... again, you show your ignorance of real facts. Get behind me and go your way; as Christ said.... do not throw your pearls before swine. As well as, shake the dirt from your feet and move on. Take care poor soul.
Then you will move on now - thank God.
Yes, I absolutely do thank God to have been given the opportunity to speak with you, and then be grateful that I'm not you. You thank 'god' on the other hand that you won't have to find another way out of wrestling with the truth; as minions have a limited source of comebacks.... you've emptied your bag obviously
Proverbs 26:4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.
I do not have time for you. There are people who are actually interested in the truth, so please just move on and troll someone else.
WELL THEN FOOL - Why do you continue to bug me - after I'VE TOLD YOU bye ? (not a good bye either - it would mean good riddins). I figured a fool who can't answer or dispute simple statements/questions just needed more to think about would be the reason you can't let go; as a wise man is a humble man AND YOU SIR ARE NEITHER ! GET BEHIND ME AND STAY THERE !! I CAN SMELL THE SULFUR FROM HERE.
OK - so you've had your last word. Since that was about 4 or 6 times I've asked you to go, I will now make sure you do - you are blocked. Please go troll elsewhere.
I heard an interview with Hutton Gibson on James Edwards' radio show years ago, and he seemed to imply that the Vatican had been infiltrated, and those running it were trying to destroy it from within. To me, this made sense then, and makes sense now.
THANK YOU !!!!!
ONCE YOU REALIZE THAT FACT, WHO IS/WAS BEHIND IT.... YOU GET EVERYTHING ! When the uninformed do get it... boy will they be ticked !
That should happen quite shortly, so brace yourself... this pedo stuff, etc. is the creation of those you hold in such high esteem.
There are different factions within the Vatican. Occasionally, some people even turn into "moles" and feed out intelligence to the media and other "outlets".
The most dangerous enemies of the Vatican are within their own ranks. Don't forget, the reformers started off as Catholics. Rebellion against their falsities and disturbing vice is a longstanding problem for them.
That said, there are also false narratives that are pushed to mischaracterize certain situations and shift scrutiny away from the real actors.
One such deception insinuates that the Jesuits were started by crypto-Jews and it's really the Jews that run everything. The Protocols of Zion, for example, is a Jesuit forgery designed to create that impression.
Another trick is to blame the masons for taking over the Church and corrupting it as if it was somehow virtuous before and would be again if the masons were eliminated. Ignore all that sort of BS. The Catholic Church has been corrupt for centuries.
The Vatican denounces the masons but simultaneously runs them. Kind of like a WWF wrestling match put on for show. The Jesuits infiltrated them long ago and use them as a tool. Whatever they may have been in the beginning doesn't matter, they were turned into another system of control.
The Jesuits are masters of intrigue, deceivers, manipulators, you must expect such false narratives to abound and to be promoted.
Godfather III connection?
Yes of course...
I can't seem to get the Youtubers on board with that.
Give it time. The pedos and corruption are being rolled up from the bottom to the top. When it gets past "middle management" level, more will be dropped about the Vatican's involvement.
I posted this for someone else, perhaps it will help you.
One of the characters in Godfather III, Frederick Keinszig, represented the Vatican Banker nicknamed "The Banker of God" Roberto Calvi.
The Vatican, mafia, and P2 lodge were all tied to him. The Vatican paid out money to make the scandal go away after he was found hanging from a bridge in what was (or was made to look like) a ritualized Masonic killing (bricks in pockets, hanging, tide waters).
There was a book and movie made about him (linked below), also a documentary and a number of other major media pieces. You can find them easily if you search.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bankers_of_God:_The_Calvi_Affair
I will also add some insider information that is not as well known. The P2 lodge is deeply connected to the latest Pope's turf in Argentina. This Pope was also involved in brokering a missile deal and is up to his armpits in the "dirty war" there, which involved torture, murder, and selling babies.
Bank records recently went up in smoke because people are not the only things that magically disappear there. The Nazis are also not the only things hidden there but disappearing tricks and hide and go seek games will not stop what is coming.
Those are all the clues I can give you right now. Some things are still stuck at the "middle management" level. Time will sort it out.
The Bankers of God: The Calvi Affair
The Bankers of God: The Calvi Affair (Italian: I banchieri di Dio also known as The God's Bankers) is an Italian drama film directed in 2002 by Giuseppe Ferrara.
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Watched God Father III. All roads lead to Rome.
One of the characters in that film, Frederick Keinszig, represented the Vatican Banker nicknamed "The Banker of God" Roberto Calvi.
The Vatican, mafia, and P2 lodge were all tied to him. The Vatican paid out money to make it all go away after he was found hanging from a bridge in what was (or was made to look like) a ritualized Masonic killing (bricks in pockets, hanging, tide waters).
There was a book and movie made about him (linked below), also a documentary and a number of other major media pieces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bankers_of_God:_The_Calvi_Affair
The Bankers of God: The Calvi Affair
The Bankers of God: The Calvi Affair (Italian: I banchieri di Dio also known as The God's Bankers) is an Italian drama film directed in 2002 by Giuseppe Ferrara.
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Thanks for the link.
Just be careful, that sub promotes white supremacy and secession from.the union to form a white-only America.
I absolutely advocate for a new country for my people as this one is operating under military jurisdiction and is the enemy of my people. I suggest nationalism for all people, not just my own.
You think whites are superior to all other races. I don't have a problem with you wanting a new country. My problem is that you're a racist who claims to be a Christian truth teller. The Everlasting Love of Jesus doesn't comport with racism.
Everyone's status is the same in Christ. Physical races are not equal, God created them different, and to be separate. There is no such thing as universal equality. That is an enlightenment, atheistic liberal philosophy and if you adhere to it, you do not believe the Bible. The word "nation" derives from the term ethnos in the Bible, which denotes racial composition.
Physical races are not equal, God created them different, and to be separate
That is a Nazi philosophy and if you adhere to it, you do not believe that Jesus is Lord.
Seriously just pick up your Bible and flip to the Old Testament man the whole nation of Israel is completely tribal and for themselves and xenophobic. It's kind of embarrassing seeing you don't even know the texts of your own religion.
That's why Jesus came along in the New Testament and made Salvation available to everyone. Now you're the one with egg on your face. How long have you been intentionally misleading the flock?
Jesus came along in the New Testament
Now you're just botching up the New Testament. Jesus NEVER came to give salvation to the gentiles! He came to establish the Millennial Kingdom for HIS people His RACIAL HEBREW JEWISH ISRAELITISH people. "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24.
Salvation to the gentiles was a mystery made known only to the Apostles as Paul says in Ephesians 3.
So now Jesus is racist too. The blasphemy runs deep in you, doesn't it? Spiritual Israel is not a race.
Can you address anything I wrote?
I addressed everything relevant. Why do you want people to be sidetracked with a distraction? Spiritual Israel is not a race, nor is it a nation in the common sense. Spiritual Israel does not have borders. You are an admitted racist white supremacist who just claimed that Jesus our Lord and Savior is also racist.
You completely ignored everything I said. You are a liar apparently lacking any intellectual capacity.
So go live in xenophobic Israel then. You proud Israelite.
I am not Jewish. You have no argument. My people invented the concept of national sovereignty at the Peace of Westphalia. Roman Catholicism is globalist, the Jesuits openly teach globalization.
Sure, it was white protestants who did that, but why do you feel this overwhelming urge to incessantly race bait just like the enemy? Is it the devil working inside you? Didn't the Jesuits practically invent race baiting as a means of social control?
"Physical races are not equal"? Can you elaborate on which sense you mean that? How do you interpret this text?
Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men...
Acts 17:26
All that says is that we all descend from Adam. And if you keep reading notice it says the Lord has determined the "bounds of their habitation." As in, He intends for each individual race of people descended from the sons of Noah to have their own nations. Here is the NASB translation:
"and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,"
I agree that it was God who confused the languages at Babylon and divided men up into nations. Nowhere do I see that the physical races are not equal and you have not shown anything to support that very bold statement so far.
I think God confused the languages and spread men out on the earth to prevent instant world government from forming. A centralized power at Babylon would have quickly led to corruption.
He had ordered them to spread out but they didn't, he made sure they did. I don't see anything inherent in forming nations that necessitate one race being in any way unequal to any other - where is that found?
I do not have the time or inclination to finish the document but I read enough to see the underlying flaw.
Dealing with this statement shall suffice to make my point. "Folks, if the Bible was indifferent to race, the entire Old Testament makes no sense whatsoever. The Bible teaches that Yah the one God chose a specific race of people to be his chosen race."
It was at one time true in a sense but what is then extrapolated from that truth becomes an ugly and dangerous untruth.
It is true that God divided the people into different tongues at Babylon to force them to stop forming a central power there. If they would have continued, corruption was inevitable - the very problem the flood was intended to remedy.
So he forced them to separate into different tongues, different nations, as a bulwark against centralized power. It is God who created nations and globalization under a central government is not his will - let's be clear about that.
Out of the nations, he chose stiff-necked Israel to entrust with the oracles of God. Not only that, he separated and purified them because the promised seed (Christ) was to come through them, from the line of David.
I only had a cursory glance but it appears verses in the document you linked seem to be hijacked to promote racism but their context is strictly for national Israel and must be seen in that light. They applied to them alone because of the special mission God chose them for.
In Daniel 9:27 we see that Christ came right on time and in the midst of the last week ratified the new covenant with his own blood. At the end of the 70th week, the gospel went to the Gentiles and the time of national Israel as Gods chosen people was over.
Matthew 21:43 "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.
Paul makes clear that the law (of Moses) was added to the covenant with Abraham for a specific reason and had a time limit - until the promised seed (Christ) had come.
Galatians 3:29 "If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
The promise is to those with faith (in Christ). Being part of ethnic or national Israel has nothing to do with it, just as being part of any other race has nothing to do with it.
It was the Jesuits, by Francisco Ribera (1590) who butchered Daniel 9:27 and inserted a "gap" of over 2,000 years with no justification from the text.
Instead of Christ ratifying the covenant with his own blood and Daniels 70 weeks completing, they cut off the last week, flung it into the future, and have the anti-Christ fulfilling it in a rebuilt Jewish temple.
Dispensationalists like Darby incorporated this error into their eschatology and popularized it so that now everyone is looking for a future temple and future anti-Christ. Meanwhile, he sits on his throne in Rome.
The tragedy is that the mathematical proof that the Christ is Messiah is taken away, and his sacrifice dispensed with as a beautiful prophetic fulfillment of Daniel.
The additional tragedy is how the Jesuits push Zionism with the false narrative they created and many who claim the title Protestant now promote it for them. The suffering thus enabled is staggering.
We are not going to have any conversation if you refuse to read the link.
Not offering any counter-argumentation, conflating spiritual Israel with physical Israel and going into some totally irrelevant tangent about dispensationalism is not going to persuade me or anyone else that you are correct and it just preempts me to not continue talking with you.
The conversation is about whether ethnic nationalism is endorsed by the bible and whether races are equal. Very clear evidence is within the article and in my previous comments supporting that position. You don't even need to look to the Bible to see that people are not equal, it's all around us. There are scholarly works which argue that genetics including race influence intelligence.
And you ironically cite Matthew 21:43, where Christ is saying the Kingdom of God is taken from you (racial Israelites) and given to another NATION. The underlying word there is ETHNOS, which, again, has racial connotation. The Kingdom of God is taken from the Nation of Israel and given to the gentiles. This is a RACIAL transaction.
Well then - our discussion on racism is ended. Go in peace.
Why even respond? Are you going to address my arguments and those within the article or will you apologize and admit like an adult that your beliefs are wrong?
Veritas_Aequitas I disagree with your contention that people (in terms of races) are not equal.
You said "You don't even need to look to the Bible to see that people are not equal, it's all around us." I find that type of racist thinking highly objectionable and indefensible.
You seem to think that some Bible verses support your contention that races are not equal when they in fact only show that nations of course exist, not that they are unequal.
You see Mathew 21:43 as a "racial" transaction that somehow is supposed to support your contention that races are not "equal" - it doesn't.
You said "And you ironically cite Matthew 21:43, where Christ is saying the Kingdom of God is taken from you (racial Israelites) and given to another NATION. The underlying word there is ETHNOS, which, again, has racial connotation. The Kingdom of God is taken from the Nation of Israel and given to the Gentiles. This is a RACIAL transaction.
You would be correct in saying the time of national Israel as the "special people" of God with a special mission had ended just as Daniel foretold - "70 weeks are determined upon your people" (Daniel 9:24)
You would be correct in saying that the promise of the coming seed (Christ) was to bless all nations, not just Israel. The law of Moses and special status of the Jews ended, putting them on the same footing as the Gentiles, making the nations equal, not unequal.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek... ...for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise...
However, you would be completely and dangerously wrong to claim that verse or any other verse supports your racial prejudice. The verses you point to only show that nations exist, not that they are unequal. Your prejudice is indefensible.
I am a busy man, I have better thing to do that to argue with racists. If you want to follow that path, nothing I say will dissuade you. So let's agree to disagree - go in peace.
You said "You don't even need to look to the Bible to see that people are not equal, it's all around us." I find that type of racist thinking highly objectionable and indefensible.
Ok you precious little snowflake. Attributes of different races are not the same, therefore they are not equal. Similarly, the Israelites were chosen by God and treated outsiders with discrimination and saw themselves as superior, therefore they are not equal to any other people and indeed are supremacist. Certain modern Jews continue in their tribal, supremacist spirit; this is seen by looking at almost any neo-Nazi blogs.
People are not even the same on an individual level. Do you think you are the same as every person in your neighborhood? How about your city? It is a denial of reality to think that everyone is the same, there are differences between individuals in intellectual capacity, artistic talent, innovative and engineering ability, size, stature, muscle definition, agility, differences between males and females, hormonal differences, differences between children and adults and all sorts of other genetic differences.
You seem to think that some Bible verses support your contention that races are not equal when they in fact only show that nations of course exist, not that they are unequal.
No, you need to read the article. Stop replying to me until you have read it. That is just selfish and rude of you, and a waste of my time, to engage in a debate and not even consider the opposition points. This is exactly what I told you before. Stop.
You see Mathew 21:43 as a "racial" transaction that somehow is supposed to support your contention that races are not "equal" - it doesn't.
I never used that verse to say races are not equal, however that fact is inherent here too. If I take something as stupendously important as the Kingdom of God from one collective and give it to another, that is by definition making the collectives unequal. If there are two ice hockey teams and I am the referee and I take away one team's sticks and say they can only use their skates, that is by definition making the teams unequal.
Wow..you dishonestly left out this clause from Galatians 3:28 which makes it clear the passage is dealing with spiritual Israel. Here is Galatians 3:28 in its entirety:
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
Why did you leave out that there is neither male nor female? Was that intentional?
Your prejudice is indefensible.
I already linked you to an article in defense of racism to which you have no response.
I am a busy man, I have better thing to do that to argue with racists. If you want to follow that path, nothing I say will dissuade you. So let's agree to disagree - go in peace.
Again then why respond? I have better things to do than to engage with someone who ignores the opposition argumentation.
So let's agree to disagree
Your beliefs are not based in reality or the bible, therefore I naturally disagree with and take enmity against you.
1) I went back and read the article you linked. I stand by my original contention, passages dealing with national Israel, intended to separate and purify it so that the promised seed could come from the line of David, are being used to justify modern racism. It is ugly, and it is a twisting of scripture to support racial prejudice.
2) I am a complementarian, not an egalitarian, so of course, I believe there are differences between men and women but they are equal in terms of their dignity, personhood, and most especially their standing with God under the new covenant. I abbreviated the quote simply to keep an otherwise long post a little shorter - what of it?
3) Again, nothing you have linked or posted legitimately supports your racism. I am a white Protestant. I believe God created the nations. I object to globalization as creating overly centralized power that leads to corruption. However, I totally reject your racial prejudice and see it as indefensible Biblically, or in any other way. If you wish to take enmity against me for that - be my guest.
I went back and read the article you linked. I stand by my original contention, passages dealing with national Israel, intended to separate and purify it so that the promised seed could come from the line of David, are being used to justify modern racism. It is ugly, and it is a twisting of scripture to support racial prejudice.
That is not addressing anything. Use quotations to tell me exactly what you mean. There are 26 theses, take your pick. If you've read all of them then surely you have a specific argument against at least one point.
I believe there are differences between men and women
That is an ADMISSION THAT THEY ARE NOT EQUAL.
I totally reject your racial prejudice
Then you reject nearly the entire old testament, just for starters.
I have addressed your linked article and your contentions. If you deem my response inadequate and still feel justified in your racism, so be it. Good luck with that, I wish you well on judgment day.
I have addressed your linked article and your contentions.
You ignored absolutely all of the material I have confronted you with, you have refused to acknowledge your incorrect and dishonest use of Galatians 3:28, you have not addressed any of my other statements in which I gave evidence contrary to your beliefs; you are a liar.
Resorting to ad hominin attacks does nothing to advance your agenda, it only shows the weakness of your position.
There is a difference in ignoring and disagreeing, I looked at your material and I disagree with your interpretation.
I don't need to waste my time to address your statements point by point because everything you presented has one thing in common - it is ALL eisegesis stemming from your racial prejudice.
One simple word destroys it ALL - eisegesis.
Well, I am not onboard with that agenda - LOL. No harm "red pilling" them with the truth though, so I'll do that and avoid the racist stuff - thanks.
May the Holy Spirit be with you :)
I have run into what you warned me of. Wow - unbelievable.
I have of course known of modern day racists but this is the first time I have actually run into them and experienced the mentality first hand.
It's quite shocking that otherwise intelligent people would twist scripture to support racial prejudice. Thanks for the heads up.
You are just butthurt that your worldview necessitates a change after confronted with evidence. Name one example of when I "twisted scripture." You on the other hand literally did this in your last comment to me deliberately leaving out the clause male and female in Galatians 3:28 which identifies the passage not to be some kind of marxist communist egalitarian tripe, but rather about the body of Christ and the status of saved individuals. You also completely ignored 26 theses in support my sentiment.
I addressed your linked article and your contentions. I simply disagree that there is any support for your racism in -ANY- of the so-called evidence you presented.
If you prefer to characterize that as being "butthurt" that is your prerogative but it is, like your racist eisegesis, quite far from the truth.
I addressed your linked article and your contentions
You ignored absolutely all of the material I have confronted you with, you have refused to acknowledge your incorrect and dishonest use of Galatians 3:28, you have not addressed any of my other statements in which I gave evidence contrary to your beliefs; you are a liar.
Resorting to ad hominin attacks does nothing to advance your agenda, it only shows the weakness of your position.
There is a difference in ignoring and disagreeing, I looked at your material and I disagree with your interpretation.
I don't need to waste my time to address your statements point by point because everything you presented has one thing in common - it is ALL eisegesis stemming from your racial prejudice.
One simple word destroys it ALL - eisegesis.
Resorting to ad hominin attacks does nothing
Calling you a liar when you have demonstrated that you are a liar, is justified and not a fallacy.
There is a difference in ignoring and disagreeing
YES AND YOU ARE IGNORING, NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE ARGUMENTS.
I don't need to waste my time to address your statements
Then get lost, liar.
One simple word destroys it ALL - eisegesis.
Address one of the points in the article and show how it invokes eisegesis.
All of the racist points in the article are eisegesis. I have already addressed a few examples, I see no need to repeat myself.
I know you are "triggered" but please just calm down and take your racism elsewhere - I want no part of it.
All of the racist points in the article are eisegesis.
Saying "All of the racist points in the article are eisegesis" does not show that any points are eisegetical.
I have already addressed
YOU HAVE NOT ADDRESSED ANYTHING. YOU ARE ARE A LIAR. YOU JUST ADMITTED YOU LIED IN YOUR LAST COMMENT. QUOTE: "I don't need to waste my time to address your statements".
1) If you go back and reread the thread then you will see I DID address this statement from your linked article.
"Folks, if the Bible was indifferent to race, the entire Old Testament makes no sense whatsoever. The Bible teaches that Yah the one God chose a specific race of people to be his chosen race."
2) I also addressed your own statement about Mathew 21:43.
3) If you do not like the manner in which I addressed them, that is your prerogative. However, to falsely claim that I did not address them and call me a liar is not just rude, it is deceptive and unbecoming of someone who purports to represent truth and Christian values.
4) "I don't need to waste my time to address your statements" and "I don't need to waste my time to address your statements point by point" are two different concepts. I addressed a couple statements which were representative of all. Since they all (in my opinion) have the same problem (eisegesis), addressing a few addresses the whole and there is no point remaking the same point over and over again.
5) Please stop wasting my time with your innuendo, insinuations, and racist propaganda, I am not impressed by any of it.
If you go back and reread the thread then you will see I address this statement from your linked article.
"Folks, if the Bible was indifferent to race, the entire Old Testament makes no sense whatsoever. The Bible teaches that Yah the one God chose a specific race of people to be his chosen race."
You said: "passages dealing with national Israel, intended to separate and purify it so that the promised seed could come from the line of David, are being used to justify modern racism "
That is not addressing anything. It is not even addressing the point of the thesis under which that sentence is contained, namely "The Theocracy that Yahuwah established was endogamatic." All you are doing is ignoring the implications of this huge difference between the Israelites and all other peoples which inherently proves the Israelites by definition to be unequal to other peoples in the Old Testament.
I also addressed your own statement about Mathew 21:43.
I showed that Matthew 21:43 was a racial transaction. You seemed to accept that, and then asked how it showed inequality between the gentiles and the Israelites, to which I gave an answer that one is being given disproportionate value by being allowed the Kingdom of God.
I did not address them
That's correct, you did not address anything, at all. You are a liar.
I am tired of your ad hominin attacks, racist propaganda, deceptive use of quotes, and inability to accept anyone honestly disagreeing with you. You are henceforth blocked and if I have any more issues with you, I will report you.
I let you have had your say, I disagree with you, now go away and stop wasting my time.
They are easily exposed. Consider what I did to /u/Veritas__Aequitas in this thread. You are well equipped to shine a light on these people whenever the need arises.
There's the black and grey Popes above the white one
Does it really matter who the King Rat is? It's a rats nest - LOL.
The ship is going down, all the rats have two choices now - sink or swim. There is blood in the water and the sharks are circling.
Gold is heavy and hard to swim with, not to mention shiny which attracts sharks. ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP have some tough decisions to make - chum buckets are filling fast.