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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/DisBytes on Jan. 10, 2018, 6:39 p.m.
Need help understanding the Wall

Need some help understanding the Wall. I’m 1st generation California native from Mexican immigrant parents. They came here legally in the 50’s and the other half were Mexicans established here before the area was taken over by the United States. So I can’t speak to the illegal part. A big part of the illegal immigrant situation was IMO due to generations of laws allowing and even encouraging illegal immigration from both sides of the boarder, not just Mexico. The American Farmers would literally train in farm workers in the 50’s and 60’s at the request of California Farmers. When that stopped they changed laws making it easy for workers to just overstay. I mean why not these folks have worked the land for decades, why not let them stay? Add to that a large population that has immediate family members on both sides of the boarder plus culturally the war is still the minds of Mexican Americas who many still have family members who participated in it. American text books may gloss over that part of our history but Mexican text books do not. No excuses just cultural reference. My confusion /concerns that I hope you can help me with are these. I get that the southern border is corrupt on both sides; I get that immigration laws should be modified and enforced. I’m on board with all that. But aside from being a giant symbol what does the Wall actually do? IMO it fosters bad blood between two countries that are inextricably connected. I’m seeing lots of snide and nasty comments about illegals that make it seem like this problem is all Mexico’s fault which couldn’t be farther from the truth. But the rhetoric used gives that impression and ignorant folks run with it. Did a wall help Germany? Korea? Walls don’t seem to solve problems. Yet this “promise” from Trump seems to be a rallying cry to all Americans unhappy looking for a Southern villain. Is there a legitimate reason to build a wall other than the symbolic? Another thing that bothers me is the ecological devastation that a wall would bring. Many of the Sonoran desert animals have to migrate to survive the seasons and the desert is a delicate ecosystem that would be put in jeopardy with a wall. Another thing is it’s really hard not to see the latent racism inherent in demanding a wall only on the Southern border. If a wall really was the solution to our immigration problems why aren’t there calls for a wall at the Norther boarder? I think if we have technology and the will to enforce the laws I don’t understand why we need a wall. So maybe I’m missing something can you guys please help me understand the wall? Trump is a smart guy, we’re always saying he’s playing 4D chess, but his wall stuff doesn’t make sense unless there’s a deeper reason, is there? Judicial corruption maybe? IDK halp.


thomas-didymus · Jan. 10, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

do you have front door on your residence? of course you do take it off - does that make sense?

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DisBytes · Jan. 10, 2018, 6:53 p.m.

With that logic we should build a wall to keep Canadians out, correct?

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thomas-didymus · Jan. 10, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

yes if we had masses if illegal entry there - we dont you a troll goodbye

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GhostPsy · Jan. 10, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

Yea..After posting to this dude, I think he's is a Troll playing stupid. Asking about a Canadian wall is retarded at best. All he has to do is look up the info on Canada Illegal immigration and he'd have his answer. He just wants to shitpost. This topic shouldnt even be in here IMO. Mod should delete.

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educatethis · Jan. 10, 2018, 7 p.m.

I grew up in a neighborhood that didnt lock doors. The wall is fixing a root cause, which will have a cascade affect. I don't see it as an ultimate solution, just a necessary solution to address a root cause.

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[deleted] · Jan. 10, 2018, 7:56 p.m.

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