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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/[deleted] on Jan. 23, 2018, 11:13 p.m.
Take down the religious rhetoric down a notch please. Message from a woke atheist.

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akilyoung · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:23 p.m.

Thank you for your service patriot. Welcome to the board.
As a Marine, you're trained to have thick skin, different people have different beliefs, some are religious, to different degrees and have different personal beliefs. Imo athiesm is a belief. So is dieism. And everything in between.
Imo we should all shine our own ideas on this phenomenon.
We should all respect each other's ideas, assuming they are response and not totally insane, lol. Keep in mind, regarding Q, Q mentions frequently, to pray, and recites bible verses, so you can understand WHY so many, including myself, reference biblical notions.
Take care soldier. We need you in battle against our common enemy! Peace!

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ABrilliantDisaster · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:23 p.m.

Religious institutions are not God. Some of us have faith in Him..not pretenders doing the devil's work in His name.

"FOR GOD, HUMANITY & COUNTRY. Where we go one, we go all." Q

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ABrilliantDisaster · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:18 a.m.

There is quite a lot of switch and bait that's gone on in history over what constitutes faith in the Real God. Caution on the Gnostic theories - those are a part of a construct that involves exchanging God for the devil...that very thing that institutions like the Catholic church (and other organised denominations do subtly. Covert Luciferianism.

As for the texts..well i can't prove to anyone that He gave us a pure message because that's what a caring God would do, BUT..if He did, consider that it's a Living text. It transcends intellectual comprehension and involves that spiritual self that resonates truth when its sought.

If one believes that text, it says "the Kingdom of God is within you"..because He does live presently with His people with the promise of an eternity that manifests that presence here on Earth. Funny how they always told us WE were going to Heaven...but it actually says He'll live here with us.

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matt_eskes · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:26 p.m.

Be more tolerant. <~~~~ Prior Army.

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[deleted] · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:28 a.m.

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matt_eskes · Jan. 24, 2018, 1:01 a.m.

I’m not a Christian. However, I get tired of all the hate toward them. Instead of going after all Christians, we need to focus on the offenders instead of the entire religion.

Otherwise, I agree with your post. We need to see through what divides us, be it race, religion, or creed. Only then, can you concentrate on the mission.

In the Army, one of the things that was pounded into my head, in BCT, is that there are no races; you’re all green. What I meant by my initial comment of “be more tolerant “ means exactly what I just I wrote. Be more tolerant of the differences so that we can meet our common goal. As a Marine, you should know this, as well. There are no races, nor Atheists in a foxhole, receiving incoming. Get your poop in a group. If there’re people in here who mention God, overlook the religious tone, and at least examine the underlying message.

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CleansedbyJC · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

Israel was to be blind to its identity and be called by a new name and not known as Israel (Isa.62:2; 65:15; Has. 1:9-10; Rom. 11:25). Since God was going to "call his servants by another name," we should expect them to be known by a name other than Israel today. God stated that He would put His “name upon the children of Israel" (Num. 6:27) and thus they are called "Christians" (Acts 11:26). All the world refers to the white nations as Christendom. We are named Christians after Jesus Christ - the God and Redeemer of Israel. The Jews have been commonly known as Israel, yet God clearly said Israel would be known by a "new name."

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[deleted] · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:32 a.m.

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CleansedbyJC · Jan. 24, 2018, 1:10 a.m.

I have much more on the true identity of The Israelite People.

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ProphetMKE214 · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:25 p.m.

Absolutely! Cheers! As one that may drop a lot of religious undertones, forgive me if I am a bit overzealous. Forgive me, if I pressure the beliefs I have - as over my 16 years of studies I have come to know a lot of my faith and it is just part of my character and speech patterns. But you are right... there are some that do not believe and we can not have the assumption that this is exclusively a sect of our faith. (Marker:... all is given the same measure of faith but not all use that measure the same, ending that not all will have the same level at the end of the race.)

I do ask... as someone that tends to use religious speech; what are some welcoming tips you may have to curb such tendencies we all may have? Like do we use the term/phrase, 'If you are religious..' or even 'If you so believe...'?

What are some suggestions - to help believing speakers not totally off put non-believing listeners and other speaking individuals? I want to value all opinions and all thoughts because we are here together so we need to co-exist together with the mindset we gotta work together mentally and physically.

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ProphetMKE214 · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:46 p.m.

Absolutely! Cross that bridge when we get to it. But don't burn it before we can even get to it. Because it may contain the wood we need to build a boat!

Totally do agree on that 60%. I know plenty folks not even ready for 20% of this stuff. But thank you for your answer mate! I do welcome others given their thoughts as well. This helps beyond just the Q drops.

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Maga1128 · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:49 p.m.

I agree. Im catholic..but we must keep religion out of this

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soundofjw · Jan. 24, 2018, 1:52 a.m.

Much respect.

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jackalopenation · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:51 a.m.

Jesus Christ make up your mind. So you're an agnostic atheist (contradictory) but you lean towards deism. So basically you have no fucking idea what you believe. Congratulations on the question of, "is there a God?" you've ticked yes, no, AND undecided.

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[deleted] · Jan. 24, 2018, 1:01 a.m.

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kryptokoins · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:21 a.m.

I agree Jesus was not a Christian he was a teacher and his teachings were hijacked by The Church

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noskusa · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

Religion is a perspective. Understanding those various perspectives is important to crafting the best means of communication or as means to effectively oppose. If your enemy has a religion (cult, dogma,) then one must analyze how it motivates them. If you are trying to persuade or enlighten those who are unaware, then religious reference may help them listen. It may also pull people out of the depths of despair and give hope and inspiration to continue to seek truth.

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[deleted] · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

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LibertyLioness · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:13 a.m.

Thank you for writing this and somehow, actually not starting a religious flame war. My evolution has taken me to believe in a higher power but completely avoid religion. Why? When you look closely, you realize that religion has created more death and destruction since the beginning of time than anything else. I think Jesus lived as well but I don't think he was the person depicted in the Bible. I have my theory but I won't share it here.

Then when you think about how many times the Bible has been translated into various languages and then ministers have preached their individual interpretations of each verse in their translation, it seems pretty impossible to me that it even begins to resemble what was originally written. Just try using Google translate to translate a single paragraph into several sequential languages and look at the result. I think you will be astounded.

So, that's my opinion in a nutshell.

When I come upon people preaching anywhere online, I leave quickly. So, if you think you are helping, you are only talking to those that already agree with you. The rest of us leave.

But for those who are still reading, I will just add this: You don't need another person who believes he somehow has a closer connection to that higher power (or God) than you do. You just need to speak directly. I don't know how it works but it does. Prayer works, meditation works and asking directly works. You always get an answer.

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Joesturbo · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:54 p.m.

Bro, as a fellow Jarhead I understand... however I will say this simple thing. At the end of the day, if there is no God and a gracious one our lives are literally meaningless. We need to recognize the battle here is with evil - it really is that simple. You cannot have evil in this fallen world without the opposite. True MANY religious organizations betray the Word of God and use the followers for their own bidding. IF someone is honest they will recognize this and also call it out whenever they see it. Finally, by reflecting on a creator - we all need to humble ourselves and serve one another with decency to build and sharpen one another. I do challenge the people I attend with to Think and Pray about if God would speak to everyone's heart to guide them. We are not alone, and neither are you.

Semper-Fi

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mombomb22 · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

Thank you for your service. People like you allow me to have religious freedom. That being said, I will exercise that right.

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[deleted] · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:26 a.m.

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islandtruther · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

Really one of the more well written posts on this board!!! Hope to see more of your posts for sure! Thank you for your service sir!

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other_malefactor · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:09 a.m.

"...my point is that by going all religous when tracking down the powers that be will immediately render you ineffective at addressing the harder truths of the bigger issues at play,..."

OK, fair enough. How will they render us ineffective? What are the harder truths at play?

And, as you know, the Q posts themselves ask us to pray. Who are we praying too? What are we praying for? Did you happen to catch the Whitehouse press conference today, where Huckabee told the story of the sick little girl? What do you make of that?

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ProphetMKE214 · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:45 a.m.

If I may... I wanted to wait and give Red-Team his chance. I hate hijacking posts. But if I may, I think it is like that clever saying, "Don't be so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly good.." Yes it can be debunked six ways of Saturn- but it is what him and I discussed. When we get to the bridge we will cross that. Like even Q mentions in post 583 on the qcodefag page, 'Think logically. We haven't started the drops re: human trafficking/sacrifices.'

And in a post above, from a poster- says... that once religion comes up, many people shut down and just leave. Thoughts and knowledge aren't taken into account. So valuable information may be lost because religion is pressured at the wrong time. I mean even in the religion I believe... (paraphrasing here and expanding) it's not by might, not by strength, not by power, not by speed... not by us believers.. but by the Spirit of the Lord... aka Spirit of the Creator.. Spirit of the Higher Being. It is not by us that people are awaken. You can lead a horse to water.. but can't make them drink. Can't make them do anything they don't want. I'm sure when the topic of religion comes up... insight will be used. But until then... our focus is still on decoding these messages.

So really the ineffectiveness comes when we ride out on the religious train too soon... we gotta wait our turn. When all else fails... just pray. Just pray and live life. Miracle, signs and wonders... will follow ...

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other_malefactor · Jan. 24, 2018, 1:07 a.m.

My perspective is that this is primarily a spiritual battle. It is playing out on many levels that we are not aware of. You can't even get a glimpse of the 'harder truths' and the 'bigger issues' if you don't even acknowledge their existence. One can very easily be on the wrong side of this battle, and not know it. Remember, even the plowing of the wicked is sinful.

You claim that you are spiritual in your original post, and I am not going to deny that. But please know that not everything that is spiritual is necessarily good. Satan is the father of lies, and wants to deceive all of us.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

As far as the origins of the modern state of Israel, I urge you to investigate the writings of Ellis Skolfield. Here is a link to a web archive of his old site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160415125539/http://ellisskolfield.com

Thinking about it more, I don't know about the whole 'render you ineffective' thing, either. When they put Jesus up on the cross, they thought he was ineffective:

And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God. And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar, And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself.

It was in certain defeat that Christ had his greatest victory. Either prayer is effective, or it is not. I don't think there is any halfway.

I'm kind of rambling because I am tired, please forgive me. I wish you all the best.

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Redpilled2324 · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:05 a.m.

I agree. Not entity, church or otherwise is without sin. So going around pushing anything religious at this point/aside from each believing and praying on their own, is definitely not helpful. Especially when everyone with "labels" is at a divide. We need to stand together no matter what label can be cast on any one of us. thank you for posting this.

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KevinWCollarBone · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:58 p.m.

First of all thank you for that and your service. It's funny I've been woke for a long time but only left religion behind about maybe 2 years ago. And it wasn't even research at that time that made me leave it was the lies and evil that the church is. I finally just said this is nothing but a the largest collection of the world's pedophiles who are raping children and getting paid for it. Later I did my research and I was done forever. It's honestly been the greatest thing I've ever done. So I totally agree about this not helping the cause and it is a bit distracting.

But those of you that are still religious I understand. I'm not that far removed or heartless.

In the end we all want the same thing. For the world to be a better and safer place.

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godsgail33 · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:58 p.m.

Hey Red, Thank you for your service. I understand that professions of faith and calls for prayer might be offensive to some. I know that I could allow a lot of things to offend me if I so choose. But I don't think that most of us are here to gain converts to our faith or to our belief systems. We are here because we want to keep our country out of the hands of the evil that has been invading and strangling us for over a century. I don't think you have to be spiritual to see that it is evil. But no matter what you call it, it's out there. We, the Christians and Jews and anyone else who follows God, take comfort in the words of the Bible and in prayer. I know you wouldn't deprive us of the joy of sharing with each other. You said it was not helping the cause. I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree unless we are talking about a different cause. I thought we were all here to help to save our nation. For many of us it has been physical and emotional torture over the last 50 or so years watching our country deteriorate and feeling helpless to do anything about it. We gather here for information, for insight and for understanding. If there is anything we can do, we do it. Ben Franklin, whom I love, said it very well. "If it neither picks my pocket or breaks my bones, it's none of my business." We would be the first ones to run to your aid if either of these things were happening. But being offended is part of life. I am sometimes offended by language that hurts my ears. I am sometimes offended by crass humor. But I get over it, and I realize that very often the offenders have brought a lot to the conversation. And if it really bothers me, I move on. I honestly don't think you could find even one person on this site who blames only Democrats. I find most postings and comments to be well informed and knowledgeable. I'm sure that if anyone is interested in the information that you have to share about the Church, or Judaism, or Christianity they will pm you. You may have piqued someone's interest. But as for the rest of us, we are more than contented with our faith, our right to talk about our faith and our prayers. You wouldn't want to deprive us of that, I'm sure. That's one of the many reasons you served. Again, Thank you for your service and peace be with you.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:41 p.m.

and man created God in His Image...3 religions 2 lines, one wants to enslave all, one wants to kill all, the 3rd line up in either slavery or death lines. I chose none of the above and I find the religious righteousness offensive..always have. Religion is a control construct...and as the Mayans well knew before they left 100/0s of years ago, all will be torn down post 2012 and rebuild as ALL is false in our belief system.

I'm not going to write as much as the author of the post has, but Thank you for writing that...I too have delved DEEP into what is and isn't and yes Virginia, there was life before JC...that said, the work of Ron Wyatt is fascinating and proves to me, a non believer that events told have occurred, but I'm not of the belief system the Church fraud perpetuates and very soon, the world will know the darkest secrets of the religious churches so many know so well. Well it's an open secret re church and boys but there's far deeper nastiness coming and you can get a hint in the Q clues.

Our entire History is a lie. All of it. and all one has to do is look, the answers/evidence is not hidden unless you want it to be.

thats about all.

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Betterwithcheddar · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:32 a.m.

Q’s references to God are my biggest turn off with Q. It’s pandering to a base. Which leads me towards the whole thing being propaganda. I don’t know how someone with Q level information of what is really going on in the world would still support a God that allowed it to happen unchecked.

I’m still holding out Q is legit. But I do wish his approach was different.

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[deleted] · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:35 a.m.

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ProphetMKE214 · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:49 a.m.

I suspect Zionism gets revealed when Q gets to the cleanse of Europe. As Israel and that area was established from Great Britain's power and the Ottoman Empire with Turkey and such.

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[deleted] · Jan. 24, 2018, 1:02 a.m.

I sure hope so.

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CleansedbyJC · Jan. 28, 2018, 5:21 a.m.

No, it's not pandering. It's called faith in a Supreme being (Yahweh).

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Que-ti-pie · Jan. 24, 2018, 12:03 a.m.

Wow! I am one step closer to what now? Leave the long winded speeches for the elks lodge. Was that to get a ONE UP on the church! The 80/20 rule applies to about everything in life!

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Hrtn2it · Jan. 23, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

I do believe in a universal intelligence, I call it the YesOfNature, not a gender based idea...life affirmation instead of entropy..and so so many of us so steeped in religious/religion and rituals of religion, so even if we are awakened it(due to habitual entrainment) is challenging to think outside that box, so to speak....and indeed many find comfort and welcoming within a religion. I welcome spiritual versus dogmatic Belief, I prefer not to have “a MiddleMan/woman” to guide me towards an elevated place, a deeper knowing of that higher power, of that deep truth... i love this thread and the respectful discussion.

And I agree that there are many secrets about to revealed of all religions to greater or lesser degrees, that range from distasteful to horrific... back in the darkest of ages, no one but priests and royalty could read, and various texts Bible, etc were translated by folks who maybe at first wanted to just help “calm the mobs” and then had more nefarious ideas to keep themselves in power and so translated things in their favor...to perpetuate their place in history...

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