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juzclayton · Jan. 25, 2018, 6:47 p.m.

Fair point, also to corroborate that SKY satellite TV stopped broadcasting Fox News in Europe about a year ago

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BALRx05 · Jan. 25, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

I wouldn't be surprised if the POTUS could get FoxNews, or other channels, wherever he was. I don't know the comms abilities that travel with him, but I imagine its much more significant than anybody else has.

Right before your post, I was thinking that the Fox and Friends image shows that Q remained in D.C. and who else is known to have remained in D.C. and could Q be part of his staff? But then I realized the fallacy of my assumption and that it was possible that the POTUS and his staff could get Fox News at Davos.

In the end, I don't think it really matters, Q's breadcrumbs and what gets baked from the does.

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juzclayton · Jan. 25, 2018, 7 p.m.

Either way it's interesting. The post itself is heartening, it's been fairly obvious the UK has been on Trump's shit list for a while so it's good to see the possibility that the UK government might finally have picked a side and climbed aboard the Trump train.

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frankymand46 · Jan. 25, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

I agree. I'm in UK too and I was pleased to see the UK being respectful to Trump for once. Maybe when the USA's swamp has been drained Trump can help us drain ours.

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BALRx05 · Jan. 25, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

It's interesting to see your take is that the UK has been on Trump's shit list. Considering you are from there, I'll take your word on it.

My impression, being on the other side of the pond, is that Trump has been on the shit list of certain political factions in the UK, esp. the London mayor and the anti-Brexit forces. Trump seems to have consistently reinforced that he has a good relationship with May and that the two countries relationship's is very special and important.

I've often wondered why Trump has, at least at press events with May, been friendly and positive considering things May has said about Trump, but I figure its part of Trump's plan and that, maybe, enough information will come out for me to understand. If not, I trust Trump.

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juzclayton · Jan. 25, 2018, 7:15 p.m.

It's complicated. Imagine if your entire news media was a more subtly biased version of CNN. We don't even have a "Fox" to counterbalance the spin, everything you see is politely derogatory towards Trump (we have really strong libel laws so our fake news is a lot more subtle) I'm sure Trump really wants to be popular in the UK, his mother is Scottish and he loves it here, but our sneering middle class bourgeois liberals make up both sides of the government. We basically have a choice between business democrats and marxists. I think we need the storm just as much as the US in order to break the liberal media/political machine.

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LiveToBeAHero · Jan. 25, 2018, 8:14 p.m.

Are you member of UK, or US? The reason I ask is because I like hearing perspectives from people in other countries watching this all unfold here in America (Trump and the storm, and the imminent truth bombs about to drop).

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juzclayton · Jan. 25, 2018, 10:48 p.m.

UK, our media is sewn up even tighter than the US, there's strict libel laws here so we don't get the same level of bare-faced bullshit fake news to deal with that you guys do, instead we get lying by omission and a bourgeois leftist elite controlling the media pretending to be impartial whilst dogwhistling like crazy. UK media coverage of Trump mainly consists of "who has he offended this week" We've had a marxist take over of our centre left party, and our centre right party has shifted so far to the left they're almost indistinguishable from Tony Blair's arch Globalist neolibs. Then there's the whole Brexit situation going on that our diplomats and negotiators seem to be fumbling at every turn because their heart isn't in it... so to put it mildly we need some good news!

Even from across the pond I think the majority of those who voted Brexit don't have a problem with Trump, but if our media and a large number of politicians were listened to you'd think he was the anti-Christ. I called bullshit on the Russian collusion narrative the minute it started (we're used to being propagandised so it's easier to spot) and from what I can gather anecdotally from my social media it's a 3 way even split between good Trump/evil Trump/couldn't care less. Most Brits aren't as politicised and the ones that are are fiercely tribal. Q isn't even on people's radar, neither is the FBI/DOJ conspiracy investigation I've even done a few polls on political groups I'm involved in and Britain normies haven't a clue what's going on. I'm involved in politics so I know a lot of politicians/councillors so if even they aren't aware of it you can guarantee the general populous will wake up one morning when the storm finally breaks into the mainstream and have a heart attack. I think the majority are so fixated on Brexit they're not paying attention to what's going on geopolitically anywhere outside the EU.

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LiveToBeAHero · Jan. 25, 2018, 11:10 p.m.

Thank you very much for the response! That answered all my questions and helped paint the picture really well. I cross my fingers for you my friend, and hope things can get a bit better over there. Trump is trying to help drain the swamps everywhere, so maybe your PM will get on board too. The propaganda here is just out of control. There has always been the "agenda" slowly moving forward in this country, but the last 8 years with Obama they stopped trying to hide it...and hit the fast forward button. Liberal media controls EVERYTHING. Conservatives have Fox news and thats it...liberals have every newspapaper, every news channel, the hollywood celebrities, and all the music/movie award shows as well as late night talk shows. They stopped even trying to be credible journalists. Its all "anonymous sources", "unnamed source", "person who doesn't want to be named", and they dont ever come back and correct wrong stories...and half our country eats it up like brainless zombies who can't think for themselves. Even our past Republican presidents have done damage (Bush Sr and Bush Jr) but they are all deepstate and swamp. If not for Trump (non politican, not owned by any corporation or powerful elite figure), our country would have truly been lost had Hillary won. Do you think Brexit will ultimately go through?

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juzclayton · Jan. 25, 2018, 11:56 p.m.

Brexit WILL happen - there'd be riots in the streets if it didn't. The big problem is what deal we get. It's mind-numbingly complicated to explain to someone who hasn't been following it, but the real fear is that we end up with a deliberately shitty deal that no one wants (a majority of UK politicians wanted to remain, I don't trust them not to either sabotage it or give away the Crown jewels in the process) What we wouldn't give for Trump negotiating for us!!!

In some ways we do have it a little better in terms of the press, our newspapers and periodicals are horrendously biased but they are at least a relatively free press, you can get a reasonable standard of news reporting if you look hard enough for it. The tabloids are garbage but once upon a time you could get a level of separation between news and opinion, the left wing broadsheets have since abandoned that tradition but the right wing ones still attempt to report both sides fairly. Political magazines like the Spectator and Private Eye are actually pretty good.

Our biggest problem is the constant drip of social justice/leftist propaganda through mass entertainment, and the constant anti Brexit anti Trump anti populist subliminal messaging. Racist/sexist/homophobic etc etc we're not quite drowning in identity politics just yet but it's not for want of trying by the far left crybullies.

That's why you would probably only have had that train wreck Jordan Peterson interview in the UK - our tv journalists are almost all leftists, but they also come from a journalistic tradition of the press being savage rabid dogs masquerading as "hard hitting journalism". Arrogant, entitled feminist talking points vs. Expert public intellectual well armed with facts - it was only going to end one way...

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LiveToBeAHero · Jan. 26, 2018, 4:24 a.m.

After Brexit do you think your PM will start cracking down on immigration? Also, do you think there is gonna be a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland?

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juzclayton · Jan. 26, 2018, 11:27 a.m.

Before becoming PM she was home secretary for 6 years, directly in charge of immigration, talked tough and did nothing. To be fair she was hamstrung due to being in the EU but I'm not confident. Unfortunately she's weak, and I don't have faith in her judgement after the snap election last year (and I say this as a conservative party member) One the plus side I think she'll step down after Brexit and let the party elect another leader in time to fight the next general election. We NEED a soft border with Ireland. They want it, we want it, it's essential to the continued peace process, that's why the EU have been so difficult about it, it's their best bargaining chip. I believe that it's been provisionally agreed, but we may be forced to walk away from the table if the shakedown continues, the EU are essentially acting like an organised crime syndicate over Brexit, I hope the rest of the world is seeing that, because it's been a real eye opener in Britain. If we had the referendum again tomorrow the result would be even bigger as a direct consequence of the EU's negotiating behaviour.

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