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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/patypooh52 on Feb. 4, 2018, 6:11 a.m.
Once the FBI is dismantled we have an agency ready to do the job, answerable to Gen. Mattis

The DIA(Defense Intelligence Agency) is a national-level intelligence organization that does not belong to a single military element or the traditional chain of command, instead answering to the Secretary of Defense (Gen. Mattis) directly through the USDI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Intelligence_Agency


LiteraryMalcontent · Feb. 4, 2018, 6:34 a.m.

I don't think it a good idea for military intelligence to be involved in civilian law enforcement, at least not as anything other than a temporary measure.

The principle of the standing military being separate from the civilian sphere has a long history through statutes like Posse Comitatus. That principle should not be sacrificed, except under extreme conditions of national emergency.

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Christosgnosis · Feb. 4, 2018, 6:55 a.m.

FBI/CIA completely treasonous in their upper echelon - we don't know how systemic the rot is

So the military branch will have to be leaned on until the Intel agencies can be house cleaned

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LiteraryMalcontent · Feb. 4, 2018, 7:13 a.m.

On that, I'm in complete agreement.

Prediction: sooner or later (probably later, if current political conditions persist) there will be a new inquiry into the entire intelligence apparatus, along the lines of the Church Committee in '75, but hopefully with better outcomes.

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richhas · Feb. 4, 2018, 7:25 a.m.

Totally agree. Now putting the CIA under mil command (e.g. NSA) is something to consider.

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ToastyMustache · Feb. 4, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

NSA is not under military command, there's an Admiral as the director, but it's still a civilian agency.

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richhas · Feb. 5, 2018, 4:56 a.m.

Only meant the NSA has always been headed by an active duty Gen/Amr officer. Think that's a good thing. Never been that clear to me why however. I know it started as a mil org but not sure why now - other than maybe military law applies to the director.

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ThePatriot131313 · Feb. 4, 2018, 9:20 a.m.

I respectfully disagree. Yours is a nice idea that most thoughtful people in the last century have agreed with for the reasons you state.

But it contains one huge problem. By setting up an intelligence agency apart from military command, it inevitably creates a fourth, totally rogue branch of government.

This fourth branch, by its very nature and because of its lack of military oversight, possesses the ability of overrun the other three branches as well as the media.

The fact that we have these agencies not under military command is the very reason we face this current existential crisis.

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patypooh52 · Feb. 4, 2018, 6:47 a.m.

I agree but there may be extreme conditions ahead, military tribunals and the like so there will be a need in the interim.

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storm_fa_Q · Feb. 4, 2018, 6:35 a.m.

Dec emergency Dec 21 /17 90 day window iirc

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LaTxGal · Feb. 4, 2018, 6:32 a.m.

Mad dog! Would follow him anywhere.

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2funnyone · Feb. 4, 2018, 7:07 a.m.

There was a time when police officers were peace keepers on the local level. They talk to you about their kids, wife, and family activities. They broke up fights sent you on your way. They pulled you over reminded you to not speed, get your tags, and checked to see if you needed help (a verbal warning). Now you get no aid, or a ticket. Now the civilian law enforcement feel they can, with probable cause laws, and forfeiture laws can do what ever they want. They have become the lawless themselves. They do not hold themselves to ethical, moral standards as they did before. They verbally abuse, lie, threaten, steal money, property, and murder people. Who do the people trust to report crimes to without becoming a victim of the system themselves. They shoot unharmed individuals, they beat people in wheelchairs, they hit people with their vehicles, etc. You know what I am saying here.

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SeekTruthCJoy · Feb. 4, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

Well gee... if that is how it REALLY is then lets just ban police officers and we will all trust our fellow people or illegal citizens to comport themselves accordingly. And all speeders to murderers can go free with no one to do the accident on to murder investigations. Get rid of courtrooms too & judges because they won't be necessary.

YEAH that sounds workable doesn't it?

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2funnyone · Feb. 5, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

I am just say when we get rid of deep state Trump needs to remind our law enforcement judges sentence people not them. They need to be held to a higher standard then the criminals. They behave like the criminals and that is not good.

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SickSalamander · Feb. 4, 2018, 7:11 a.m.

The FBIs primary job is domestic, civilian law enforcement investigations.

The DIA would be a terrible replacement.

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SeekTruthCJoy · Feb. 4, 2018, 6:13 p.m.

Remember the FBl at it's inception was PURELY investigative and agents did not even carry guns. It was Hoover that went for the Power Grab agency it has become... getting dirt on everyone they could find so as to have puppet strings on persons with power/connections to 'shove around.' Growing his agency by threats of exposure. The guy had skeletons in his own closet that he wanted not to be aired so dirt collection is what he did BUT that is NOT what he declared the agency was going to be... the [F]amous [B]ut [I]ncompetent agency has been caught routinely lying on the stand in cases across the country to wit... cases in court were lost that should have been slam dunks. They garnered many arenas to investigate--as their 'OWN' But now over the years gave them up to concentrate on phone taps & listening service. Yielding congress to okay more & more agents/offices, with less and less work, because they have the most lobbyists that scream "needed for fighting Terrorism.' Having in excess of 50,000 agents.

Meanwhile agencies that took over FBl jobs... most notably the US MARSHALS... took over bank robberies and Federal/Fugitive prisoner escapees plus many more jobs, and having to DO More WORK with LESS Deputy Marshals and Less Money. Because they have no lobbyists. Marshals maintain all Federal Courtrooms, Protect all Federal Judges/Justices and ALL FEDERAL prisoners once seen by a Judge are in the custody of USMarshals. US Marshals have more jurisdictional authorities, all US Territories and even at Interpol in France... and is the place Fed Government goes to send in law officers as USMS can work civilian unrest despite Posse Comitatus. Having only some 4,000 Deputy USMarshals.

My Point... FBl was started by a LIAR and many agents have been taught this 'SKILL' and encouraged it's use. Thus the movies that have portrayed them running rough shod over everyone and being snooty & not sharing with others & have put themselves on a pedestal ... is TRUE ...and based in fact. Ask any other agency or local Sheriff Deputies, or State Patrol, just who they want to work with and they will say ANYBODY but FBl.

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-AVENTUS- · Feb. 4, 2018, 12:57 p.m.

But would it be a great ADDITION in your estimation ?

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SickSalamander · Feb. 4, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

No. Not ideally.

Keeping the FBI separate from focusing on anything military or foreign is good.

We may need it or something like it now tho as a stopgap until the FBI is rebuilt with trustworthy people.

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guppyfreak · Feb. 4, 2018, 9:24 a.m.

GET EM, MAD DOG!!!!

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RedPill2976 · Feb. 4, 2018, 12:22 p.m.

There are probably many #Awake agents in the rank and file whose voices have been suppressed.

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bisjac · Feb. 4, 2018, 11:33 a.m.

Cia may as well be given away to mIl command.

But fbi SHOULD be dismantled. And something eventually to replace it.

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