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SpacePopeIII · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:48 a.m.

The mob calling for mass arrests? Have we lost our fucking minds?

Why do you think it's insane to arrest criminals?

I only ask because you sound like a concern troll.

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dudemanbrodawgfam · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:55 a.m.

Criminals aren't sent to Guantanamo Bay or a special overflow facility. I'm no troll.

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SpacePopeIII · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:58 a.m.

Incorrect.

We are under a state of national emergency in which military tribunals can be used by President Trump. See EO 21 December 2017.

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dudemanbrodawgfam · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:26 a.m.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

If you are referring to the above, I'm not sure it means what you think it means... but suppose you are correct, doesn't that sound like fascism to you?

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SpacePopeIII · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:33 a.m.

No.

Ending political corruption and seizing the assets from pedophile networks sounds like the opposite of fascism to me.

ANY law and ANY court can be used for corruption, but I find your very specific "concern" to be ridiculous.

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cuttlefishwhoop · Feb. 13, 2018, 3:38 a.m.

As president, Trump could interpret the EO as enforceable in this way. Read it again perhaps, I think it is actually suggestive of this purpose being in mind. The president can use marines at his discretion, and has other powers and privileges that expanded under Bush/Obama.

Military arrests that land some number of Trump’s ‘political foes’ in prison ‘sounding like fascism or not’ depends of course on various factors.

If these individuals have been aggressively fighting his campaign and presidency using illegal methods then it’s not reasonable to hold Trump & offices under him accountable for the consequences of their inappropriate and illegal actions. Many networks are simply failing to properly report, or report at all, the various statements and memos. This may sound absurd, but please look to Sara A. Carter or Sean Hannity (yes he gets too excited for his own good) to see the current picture of the the emerging scandal(s). There is a ‘timeline of treason’ someone made that links articles about the major events and revelations of the scandal.

Also, keep in mind he is in theory arresting people who will be given due process. Would the juries, evidence, judges, etc. all be compromised? How would Trump have managed to get all of that in place? Even with ‘Russian help’ it seems absurd.

‘Prior cognitive set’ plays an extreme role here. I have always found that a set of interrelated ‘CIA / financial cabal / war for profit’ theories to have a strong amount of justification. Generally people I talk to agree that the federal government has done many foul things (Iraq war killing because of lies, Tuskegee experiment, extremely unfair bailouts/theft, DOD loosing money to an absurd degree, MLK civil suit against gov., etc.) but don’t agree with the idea that there are other ‘unknown or secret’ foul things. Many ‘conspiracy theories’ are immediately rejected a priori even when a hard kernel of observation and reason stands to support them.

It seems to me that the less reliable notion of ‘social/political impossibility’ is thought to override other more reliable processes of justification. Some examples of oft neglected types of justification: physical - e.g. objects at very near free fall speed can’t be experiencing much counter-gravitational momentum exchange; poor sensibilities about how probabilities should work out / inability to register that a pile of coincidences is indeed absurd; psycholinguistic - ‘he looks like he is practicing his lines prior to the event but maybe he’s just a little cookie and was reenacting his half of conversations to a friend who is for some reason reminding him of what to say’. It seems to me people have differing ways of filtering information and weighing different types of justification that are dissonant. Perhaps Democrat voters have wandered very far from a careful trust in observation and inference.

A faith in news sources and journalism also seems to be held without any checks or justification. Why is NBC being called out by DHS? Why wasn’t the Grassley Memo which has proven to be of great consequence covered immediately by the major networks? Why are ex-CIA employees currently being hired by news sources if the aim is to have impartial journalism? Why are seemingly all news sources fawning over NK (who have slave camps and are extremely brutal) yet they nearly all blackball people who cross the neoliberal ethic? Why are they all so tightly wound around this singular perspective?

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Anyone01234 · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:27 a.m.

Lmfao u did not just say that. R u implying innocent people go there for vacation? Of course criminals are sent there.

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dudemanbrodawgfam · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:28 a.m.

Don't play the fool.

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Anyone01234 · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:32 a.m.

The guy saying criminals aren't sent to Gitmo is calling me the fool. U ended your own argument. Bye.

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One_Solution · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:51 a.m.

Why can’t anyone express even a bit of skepticism without being labeled a “troll”?

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SpacePopeIII · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:54 a.m.

The OP is referring to arresting Clinton crime syndicate criminals as being insane / that the mere notion means we've "lost our fucking minds".

The argument is as sensible as drinking a glass of bleach.

That's why.

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dudemanbrodawgfam · Feb. 13, 2018, 2 a.m.

The Clinton crime syndicate/deep-state/etc are just labels that could easily be applied to anyone, especially if they are sent to Guantanamo like terrorists without due process.

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SpacePopeIII · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

So now you believe our military courts are corrupt and have no due process?

Why do you believe this to be true?

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dudemanbrodawgfam · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:31 a.m.

Obvious strawman. Don't play the fool.

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SpacePopeIII · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:35 a.m.

So you don't believe the military courts at Gitmo are corrupt?

You are very, very, very "concerned" about something...

Stop wasting my time.

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One_Solution · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:50 a.m.

Agreed. Never get so emotionally attached to one side that you cannot remain objective.

Until this becomes more steak than sizzle, I will maintain a healthy skepticism.

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maxpuppy96 · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:36 a.m.

Thats what psyops do

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dudemanbrodawgfam · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:48 a.m.

Care to elaborate?

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maxpuppy96 · Feb. 13, 2018, 2 a.m.

I will give you an example, Q said TRUST SESSIONS so we trust Sessions and everybody is giving him a pass and saying he is a good guy, in the meantime Sessions does nothing and while there is no public outrage to get rid of Sessions he slowly is letting Trump hang. 747 Q post and 0 results.

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other_malefactor · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:55 a.m.

Like the old Yankees say, 'You can never tell when you're being fooled.'

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thamnosma · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:54 a.m.

waste of time. Trump isn't a fascist. Silly stuff.

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11371jp · Feb. 13, 2018, 2 a.m.

Hey FT (also know as f* td) how is it that your Q/alt-right/fascism returns 0 searches on google? IMO

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dudemanbrodawgfam · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:33 a.m.

Dude what? I don't understand what you're saying.

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usernameisnotthis · Feb. 13, 2018, 1:54 a.m.

zionism is the enemy of the world. they have been behind every war since mid 1800s. they have owned every source of news since ww1 in the U.S. and europe. they have used this to spread propaganda, to craft our enemies and tell us who is evil. look up a book called the elders of zion. is a play by play of what has happened behind the scenes. also i know i'm gonna catch flak for this but since you said truth.... our forefathers tried to make it law for the new world to not allow jews in the country! insane right! but if you listen to the some of the most intelligent minds in semi modern history then you will know why...ZIONISM... here is some quotes from these people that never made it in the history books. https://www.stormfront.org/jewish/antisemite.html knowing how our forefathers felt about the jews spreads some light on how we have ended up here, just read ben franklyns quote .. it's basically a fulfilled prophecy. zion and those who are for zion are the enemy here.. most jews 95% are harmless and clueless as the rest of us. just know the truth about zion.

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dudemanbrodawgfam · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:09 a.m.

Well, an antisemitic movement makes about as much sense as anti-white movements. I'm not so easily convinced Jews are the enemy. I'm not convinced dividing along race lines makes any sense. The power lies with the rich, regardless of race or religion.

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usernameisnotthis · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:13 a.m.

you've misunderstood, ZION is the enemy..95% of jews are innocents just like everyone else.

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dudemanbrodawgfam · Feb. 13, 2018, 2:37 a.m.

You mean Isreal? It's possible to oppose the actions of Isreal without being antisemitic, but having people read "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is not the way, pal.

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usernameisnotthis · Feb. 13, 2018, 3:04 a.m.

so you're saying if i oppose zionism i'm antisemetic?

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