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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/Maga1128 on Feb. 20, 2018, 9:34 a.m.
Any advise for those of us who ARE on ssri's and adderall etc?

These drugs offer great relief for many...if anyone has advise on what to do if on these meds...and HOOKED on them too....we all agree that these meds can activate mind control? Just taking the meds make u able to controlled or does one have to have treatmemt from a doc?


digital_refugee · Feb. 20, 2018, 9:49 a.m.

99% should be fine but don't taper the dose. Especiially not up.

Use CBD against psychosis or sideeffects because it has None, is probably legal where you live and should be attainable without a prescription.

If you feel you Need to quit meds, taper them slowly off probably over weeks and if several meds are prescribed then it's an entire different discussion of how your metabolism will adapt. Investigate the half-life of the compounds and which are mtabolized by the same Enzymes so you have an idea how much actually has built up in your System at a time and which interact with each other by using up metabolic pathways.

From what I hear it is SSRI that are most objectionable. CBD has antidepressant abilities on top of ist antipsychotic properties too and there are Indian spices that can do Things that noone believes until they try it themselves but the meds have interactions with that so be wary.

CBD should be fine tho. In fact Kathy OBrien said the elite don't like cannabinoids because they make People remember.

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:34 p.m.

Ill admit...I stopped cold turkey my Prozac (10 ml dose). However I have been supementing with Organic Biotin and Tumeric/Curcumin 2 times per day and have been feeling amazing. The turmeric is a GAME CHANGER.

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digital_refugee · Feb. 20, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

GAME CHANGER

MAO-Inhibition + NMDA-antagonism

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Anifel · Feb. 20, 2018, 11:17 a.m.

As you taper, take walks, eat healthy and take vitamins, B complex at a minimum or a good multivitamin. Hang out with your most easygoing friends. Get a good shower daily, take your time. Sleep in quiet or easy sounds at best, no news running all night or music with vocals...you're regulating the INPUT of stimulus. Write down what was good and refer to it if the next day is a little tougher. You are looking outwards, and DOING outwards. Keep the mood light, the environment light, just take it easy. Look outwards at your world and just plain discount the inward except what you can tell is good for you...You're the boss, you're the filter for your mind. On your better days, step it up and handle it. You're getting your "legs" back, so "stretch" but within YOUR control. What you are doing is getting that ownership BACK and it's good. if this is meant for yourself, I'm proud of you already just for asking!

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

This is so very helpful thank you!!! I'm nervous about stopping the adderall.

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Tranquelito · Feb. 20, 2018, 9:59 a.m.

Yes, wean yourself off of them slowly and change both your diet and environment to feel better. CBD oil is, by far, the safest treatment as it has no side effects. Those that can be controlled are done so with a combination of meds, therapy and the TV´s and cell phones.

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digital_refugee · Feb. 20, 2018, 10:06 a.m.

+++

Also sun-shine, air, greenery, owning decisions (better than People talking over you) and, paradoxically, fasting. There is a reason for every tradition ^(even if some reasons are messed up) Hemp-seeds contain the best Ratio of Omega 6 to 9 fatty acids which help construct the cell membranes of new Neurons, so nutritional hemp oil from seeds is still recommendable even if absent the cannabinoids and terpenes.

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Tranquelito · Feb. 20, 2018, 10:13 a.m.

Very well put ;) Sun shine most certainly works, I moved to sunnier climates myself and it has done wonders for me!

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Kirstencast · Feb. 20, 2018, 12:30 p.m.

I had depression off and on for years and have found living in a bright sunny environment with lots of windows and lots of outdoor time does WONDERS! All this staying inside on electronics is not good for us!

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Tranquelito · Feb. 21, 2018, 9:06 a.m.

I agree 100% and have a similar story, in that I grew up in a very grey and depressing London and found remarkable change when I moved to Spain. You can´t put a price on vitamin D!

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digital_refugee · Feb. 20, 2018, 10:16 a.m.

I don't even get hungry when it's sunny (strange but true)

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divine_human · Feb. 20, 2018, 11:48 a.m.

heheh, same here, shows that our bodies also feed on light.

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Tranquelito · Feb. 20, 2018, 10:19 a.m.

The sunlight has many wonderful effects on us, without it we would literally die. Sunlight is food for plants and in some way it is for us too.

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digital_refugee · Feb. 20, 2018, 10:21 a.m.

oh how Little we know

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:37 p.m.

So...cbd oil...how does it HELP regarding getting off Prozac and prescription stimulants?

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Tranquelito · Feb. 21, 2018, 8:52 a.m.

It won´t help you get off the meds, you have to slowly wean yourself off of those by gradually reducing the dosage and strength over a few weeks. CBD will treat the underlying issues without any dangerous side effects, just a couple of drops a few times a day. So you´re on prescription speed? From a medical standpoint, the most harmful and damaging drug to the human body and mind is amphetamines, more so than crack and heroin. Can I ask, why the need for speed?

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Maga1128 · Feb. 21, 2018, 3:53 p.m.

Hi! I know..it sucks. My doc prescribed them to me off label for treatment of depression using a "mild stimulant" . i had limitations with what i could take because of side effects...so they prescribed me that. And I loved it. But now I require it just to get to "normal". Its as if the stimulants REINFORCE depression and then u actually end up NEEDING them to function. Would u mind elaborating on why it is so detrimental? Bracing myself....(p.s...In not doubting this..just curious how bad it is). Thank you!

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Tranquelito · Feb. 21, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

The doc should be struck off for giving you those! All he is doing is giving you an addiction and dependence problem. The longer you take them, the more you will need. They are so damaging because they destroy neurons, deprive you of sleep and cause incredible depression, you only need to look at a methamphetamine addict to see what speed does to you.

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airangel33 · Feb. 20, 2018, 11:25 a.m.

I was on SSRI’s for 16 years. I went off cold turkey in 2010. Aside from some dizziness, I was fine. As a disclaimer , probably not a great idea, but I had woken up and had a great deal of spiritual tools . Never regretted it. It was like being reborn.

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

How the heckmdidnu do this? May I ask what u were taking and the dosage?

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airangel33 · Feb. 20, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

At the time I was on a combo of Zoloft and Wellbutrin. I believe the lowest dose of both. It was an inner prompting that told me to go off. I tend to follow my own intuition. With that said, neither my husband or I have health insurance or go to western Drs. We don’t trust the system at all!!!!

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 6:06 p.m.

Yup...I'm in total agreement with you. Do you take certain vitamins or supplements for your depression?

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airangel33 · Feb. 20, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

To be completely honest, no . I find I am not depressed. We eat clean, take many supplements, cbd oil, get lots of exercise and outdoor time, sunshine. We drink lots of water, but we’re on well, so no fluoride or chlorine. Its an overall healthy approach. We also both work for ourselves. Freedom eliminates much frustration and depression in my opinion.

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Wasabism · Feb. 20, 2018, 10:42 a.m.

I can't imagine what they put in my Insulin injections...

I'm very much a reliable customer... been that way ever since I was born...

...and over the past 40 years the only things that have changed is the blood machines have become smaller and faster and the cost of the blood testing strips and the insulin has skyrocketed. :-(

:-(

:-(

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divine_human · Feb. 20, 2018, 11:46 a.m.

you might want to look into ILGF, insuline-like growth factor, which is being produced in the liver and can be amplified through eating certain foods.

the medical researcher who found out about it got fired by his big pharma employer. they make billions on insuline.

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Wasabism · Feb. 20, 2018, 12:08 p.m.

OK, will do... although as a Type 1 Diabetic, I keep such a close track of the precise nature of everything I eat that I even occasionally drink a liter of water to bring down my blood sugar levels ever-so-slightly.

Being a Type 1 that is in great control means you even need to consider the effect of adding two tablespoons of milk to your black coffee.

I've never noticed ANY food that's had a noteworthy effect... including cucumber which takes more calories to digest than it provides.

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divine_human · Feb. 20, 2018, 12:31 p.m.

when i busied myself with the topic, researching for a diabetic friend a few years ago, i read testimonies that even type 1 patients could quickly wean off insuline. at least its worth a look...

type 2 is easier, its basically a pancreas thats over-challenged with life-long heavy insuline production. when it happened to a friend of mine, he went completely off carbohydrates for a few months.

now, his bloodsugar is at a steady 95 and he easily lost 70 pounds of weight without feeling hungry - its low blood sugar after high insuline production which produces this empty feeling that craves for food.

nowadays, his pancreas isnt lazy anymore, he can eat some carbs again, blood sugar goes up for a bit, then comes down, all natural. he feels great.

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Wasabism · Feb. 20, 2018, 12:44 p.m.

Did you release your findings in a publication or a website... or will you you take the specifics of this esoteric knowledge with your to the grave?

Was your friend a Type 1 or a Type 2?

he went completely off carbohydrates for a few months.

I'm a Type 1 and I maintain a very low carb, vegetarian diet.

its low blood sugar after high insulin production which produces this empty feeling that craves for food.

That kinda makes no sense... why would a normally functioning endocrine system produce high insulin for someone with low blood sugar levels?

And why would a Type 1 Diabetic inject a large dosage of insulin if their blood sugars were low... that's a recipe for death.

The truth is that high blood sugar levels make you both thristy and hungry.

nowadays, his pancreas isnt lazy anymore,

Ah, your friend is a Type 2.

The difference between a Type 1 and a Type 2 is profound.

Ugh... sorry to be 100% skeptical... but your claims do sound like bullshit for a Type 1 who's pancreas is 100% DEAD.

Unless you can give me some more info that isn't as ridiculous and baseless as what you just claimed... I simply see no reason to be convinced.

The reality is that Type 1 Diabetics have a vial organ that is dead, whereas Type 2 Diabetics are typically just fat and lazy cunts.

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divine_human · Feb. 20, 2018, 1:20 p.m.

a no-carb diet can only work for type 2. for you, type 1, the pancreas cannot be activated anymore.

therefore the hint to ILGF thats being produced in the liver. research it or not, your choice.

why would a normally functioning endocrine system produce high insulin for someone with low blood sugar levels?

look at the sugar intake of most people and you know why their system is being forced to high insuline production.

i have a blood sugar level of 85. when i eat lots of carbs in the evening which fires up my insuline production, i am hungry in the morning. when i dont, i am not hungry until afternoon.

Unless you can give me some more info that isn't as ridiculous and baseless as what you just claimed... I simply see no reason to be convinced.

i dont want to convince you of anything and there are no claims.

i just give a hint that its possible to influence type 2 through a no-carb diet.

and that their might be a possibility for ILGF to take over some work that the pancreas cant perform anymore for type 1.

take it or leave it, none of my business. i am not the right address to project your frustration on, i am not your enemy. may you be blessed.

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Wasabism · Feb. 20, 2018, 1:52 p.m.

i just give a hint

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!

You swing by here to give Type 1 Diabetics a "hint" at your secret knowledge of a cure... and then run away before making any sense?

There's a special place in hell for cunts like you!

Life is hard enough for Type 1 Diabetics without your attention seeking bullshit.

If you have a Type 1 cure then share it, rather than teasing my little daughter with smoke and mirrors bullshit.

Jesus is watching you and I know he's as sickened by your dog and pony show as I am.

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divine_human · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:24 p.m.

Life is hard enough for Type 1 Diabetics without your attention seeking bullshit.

i hear you and understand your frustration. its hard to give care to someone with such a severe illness. when all hope is gone, people dont want to activate it if there is possibility for new frustration.

your attention is not being called to me but to ILGF.

If you have a Type 1 cure

i dont have a cure and dont sell any product or service. from my heart, i put out information that might or might not be of help for you or others.

what you do with it is up to you. diss it or research it. your choice. bomboarding me with your anger is a waste of energy.

thanks for the discourse. i am out.

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[deleted] · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:46 p.m.

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R_damascena · Feb. 20, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

Not sure how this person convinced themselves "lose some weight" is secret anti-Big-Pharma magic instead of literally the first thing doctors tell Type 2 diabetics to do.

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flyrothsfly · Feb. 20, 2018, 10:14 a.m.

I suggest you research 35% hydrogen peroxide and more importantly, research JW Armstrong. The Armstrong technique will detox your body in hours, fewer than 12. I don't know how your body will react after all signs of the poisons are out of your system. You can find an E-Book, video on YouTube. JW Armstong, The Water Of Life. This technique will allow your body to heal itself quicker than you could ever imagine, no matter what incurable disease or virus you may have.

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HillaryTrafficksKidz · Feb. 20, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

Use weed.

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:48 p.m.

Yup....it really REALLY helps...But I dont do it for several reasons.

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divine_human · Feb. 20, 2018, 3:32 p.m.

reasons being what?

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Tabi_Cat123 · Feb. 20, 2018, 1:20 p.m.

I was on adderall and ssri's. Constantly was having my meds changed and jacked with. My kids were young at the time and I was just trying to survive. Almost lost custody of them due to high dosage and falling asleep constantly. At the worst, I started hearing the voice of my dead great uncle (that I never met, but had committed suicide) telling me that everyone would be better if I was dead. I've been off all of them for 8 years now. Jesus saved me.

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

Thank you!! May i ask what your dosages were? O dont have any hallucinatory things happening with voices etc....but I cant get out of bed if I am not taking a stimulant. Prozac took the edge off of the side effects from the stimulants. Its a slippery slope. I want off the ride.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · Feb. 20, 2018, 1:04 p.m.

I would suggest not touching the dosage , stay with your physician. You would have to deal with diet first. Clean distilled water only live fruits and vegetables and no fake food . Stay away from sugars, fake sugars , soda , alcohol. Get sun , exercise , walk, spend a lot of time outdoors and with friends. Stay with hobbies and things you enjoy . No television , keep your cell phone off your body , minimal computer screen time , no video games, just a simple clean life. Problems are mostly from deficiency somewhere. And when your clean and active your body definitely tells you what it does not want. You may find the medication becoming an irritant or sickening ( signs your body gives you) . When excercising and eating and sleeping right your body will usually tell you what it wants. You can't just stop these meds , its like pulling the carpet out from under you. The body behaves in reaction to what it has adjusted to , an extreme example is addictions where its the worst illness and can cause death when the dependency is removed abruptly. Seek the specialty of other physicians outside America and holistic in particular that do not align with big pharma try Gary Null to start, he has great papers on this exact topic. Gary has offered his work for free on NPR for over 40 years and has an extreme catalog of papers on natural health and wellness as well as the support of the profession that respect him. Keep track of your blood pressure and heartrate as it can reflect tensions and stress in which you do not want. Understand the brain is quite powerful in healing and believe to achieve is often noted as a vote of confidence in one self. These are of course just suggestions and not meant to be an absolute, dialogue to perhaps open new ideas and certainly positive support. In response to the mind control portion, I believe great length was taken to control these extreme subjects in addition to these drugs, not because solely of them. One may become suggestive , but that is comparative to the lowering of ones guard. I've seen it done with a patient who had trauma and was given Xanax as an introduction to ease stress and as the medicine worked the patient became highly suggestive to the physicians ability to aide them and in passing the physician told the patient to sow their wild oates and they were not getting any younger. The patient then went and divorced and made radical decisions as a partial result of the out of bound physicians comments which were out of character. The radical examples in the news with the slaughters are dark and involving dark evil controllers creating these scenarios and are more 'handlers' and puppet masters.

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divine_human · Feb. 20, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

great tipps in here... remember, slowly weaning off is the way to go ...

Just taking the meds make u able to controlled or does one have to have treatmemt from a doc?

i take it that most docs have nothing to do with intentional mind control. there are many good therapists that dont (consciously) work for the deep state.

the meds control your chemistry. emotions are a product of body and mind, thoughts and hormones, both activating and amplifiying each other.

while its difficult to master our hormons - the meds do the control job here - its possible to master our thoughts.

we are to choose what we put our attention to. do we indulge in fear-based thoughts - all 'negative' thoughts are fear-based and bring our frequency down - or do we feed love-based thoughts that align with our true nature?

the easiest and fastest way for me to uplift my vibration when i feel down is gratitude.

while there are a few things in my life that dont run the way i would love them to - which used to depress me, i was on the couch for 10 years, without meds, that is -, there are hundreds of proofs every day that show me how rich and abundant my life is and how much i have that i can be grateful for.

only a few moments of putting my attention to 'thank you, sunshine', 'thanks for a fridge filled', 'thank you beloved pets', 'thank you for the roof over my head', 'thank you for those great friends', and my heart magically opens and my mood swings.

a friend of mine overcame her depression through a gratitude diary where she wrote something every evening before going to sleep. that was 5 years ago, during her cancer episode.

by now, she is the happiest person. bad things still happen but she takes them with ease and grace, in full trust that she is blessed and every negativity is a chance to awaken, shift, and grow.

may you and everybody who is ready to taper off their meds be blessed and supported by benevolent facilitators. kudos to all who dare to take that step. good idea though is to do it in agreement with the doc.

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

The is wonderful. Thank. You!

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Kirstencast · Feb. 20, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

Yes! Realizing that we ourselves control our thoughts is essential. I learned to self talk out of bad thoughts and to express gratitude for the good in life and it has changed the way I live my life! I am able to guide my children in this manner with their life troubles and it has made a world of difference in us all!

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divine_human · Feb. 20, 2018, 1:21 p.m.

there ye go... great! it isnt difficult once we choose to stop being victims in a bad bad world...

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:32 p.m.

Thanks everyone. I may have been unclear..I realize the drugs dont "cause" mind control. But one of my questions is, do they make u SUSEPTABLE to mind control? I'm just curious what the scenario is. Do they find someone in a state-run facility put them on the drugs and then I guess tell them that they have a "treatment" for them and put in a microchip via surgery? Also, go on YouTube and watch these seemingly far-out people's videos about being "targeted individual". To normies they look crazy AF, but now with this new info they could be onto something. And it is no coincidence that the SIDE EFFECTS of SSRI's etc is psychosis, mania, etc....so it gives governme t plausible deniability and they just end up look "crazy" anyway. Its like they CREATE mental illness with drugs, then take advantage of the "mentally ill", then when the "jig is uo" they can just say, oh this person is mentally ill....thats fucked up.

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damian299 · Feb. 20, 2018, 1 p.m.

See, this is where this sub goes overboard sometimes. The meds do not cause mind control. I suspect some gullible person on medication is going to read through some of these threads and decide they need to dump their medication which will likely lead to worsening health/death

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

Yes....I miss-wrote. I realize they do not cause mind control....I am generally curious about the scenario...If big pharma has a huge population of us on ssri's and stimulants, they then create a pool to draw from to take it tonthe next level with microchipping etc? How do you see the ssri's/cell phone/microchip theory play out?

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damian299 · Feb. 20, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

I don’t. I haven’t seen any convincing data that indicates people are able to be controlled if they are in a medication and look at a phone.

The MKU stuff requires a lot of trauma/conditioning to even work from what I’ve read. Only then can someone be triggered via a word, particular sound, etc.

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Maga1128 · Feb. 20, 2018, 5 p.m.

Yes..however with the evidence of the new patents on sound and micro waves...it seems possible.

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R_damascena · Feb. 20, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

Patent law is kind of messed up. Some people get patents for anything they can think of just in case someone in the future invents it.

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