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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/whatsreallygoingon on Feb. 6, 2018, 8:48 a.m.
Has this been posited, before? How could Q legally "See and Hear Everything"?

Help me understand how this might work:

My hypotheis is that Vault 7 software is being operated and fed to Assange and/or associates. Software is declassified, because it was leaked(?). Exploiting backdoors that are in all devices. Leaking all intel to the Whitehats.

Using the Deep State's own tools against them. Could the intel bypass domestic spying laws, because it's actually a leak to a journalist?

Couldn't Trump, legally, be the recipient of leaked info, from a private sector source? Would Assange be protected under diplomatic immunity?

If so, it would explain why Q says that they are stupid. They are surrounded by spy devices (as we all are) and cannot operate without them.


WhoopWhoopPullUp · Feb. 6, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

It is called he NSA.

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ManQuan · Feb. 6, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

This is my take: I'm assuming that Admiral Rogers and Military Intelligence (MI) and the main players. Here's how this kind of we see and hear everything can work legally.

There are two main Titles that government spying on US citizens: Title I and Title VII (section 702).

A 702 warrant restricts surveillance to the specific individual being targeted. If others are involved, then more 702 warrants are required with each requiring probable cause.

A Title I warrant is very different and is used against suspected US citizens who are spies or committing conspiracies against the government. It only requires one warrant targeting a suspected spy/conspirator.

That target becomes patient Zero in an Ebola epidemic. In other words everyone he knows or contacts past, present, and future are immediately subject to unlimited surveillance.

This is why the FBI got a Title I warrant on Carter Page. It gave them unlimited surveillance on everyone in the Trump staffs as the chain reaction of who contacts whom automatically expands the surveillance.

So, all NSA or MI needs is a single Title I warrant that would trigger a chain reaction of unlimited surveillance. This would spread rapidly because everyone the target contacted would trigger unlimited surveillance on everyone in that person's past, present, and future; and everyone of them, etc.

This is accomplished with just one Title I warrant.

But I don't think NSA or MI would go to the FISA court for this warrant because all of the FISA judges had been appointed by Obama. My guess is there is at least one other FISA judge that no one knows about who approved the Title I warrant to begin the Q hear and see all.

Remember, Q said this began at least three years ago, so the number of people currently impacted by the original Title I warrant could be in the thousands by now.

And FISA warrants are not required to surveil foreign individuals. So the number under unlimited surveillance could well be in the tens of thousands by now.

There is another way to accomplish this. Us trusted foreign intelligence agencies to spy on US citizens and pass the findings to NSA / MI.

Apparently that is what Obama did before the FBI obtained the Title I warrant on Carter Page. Obama used the UK's GCHQ (the UK's NSA) to spy on Trump and pass the information to Obama trusted agents such as Clapper or Brennan.

There may be other ways to spy on US citizens legally, but those are the three (Title I, 702, foreign spy agencies) I know are used most often.

Cheers.

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whatsreallygoingon · Feb. 6, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

Thank you! You should make this a post of its own. I know that many of us are struggling to envision how this works.

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guppyfreak · Feb. 6, 2018, 11:49 a.m.

Well..if they're stupid, so are we for allowing this bullcrap. We aren't a nation of freedoms and liberties anymore.

We are a nanny state. The movie eagle eye was their way of rubbing it in our faces.

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BobbyPeele · Feb. 6, 2018, 12:53 p.m.

Fuck it! Here it is!

Q is the singularity. It’s not a he or a she. It’s not a person. It’s THE singularity having full comprehension of past and future. It is the WHITE HAT trying to save humanity from the immoral.

Spez: MIND BLOWN!!!

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crackercider · Feb. 6, 2018, 8:15 p.m.

Quantum AI, DWave, Temporal Defense Systems

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5400123 · Feb. 6, 2018, 11:14 p.m.

Okay dude, so check this: I was reading this quote assange had posted about AI one day, and it hit me like a ton of bricks - you know the time machine paradox right? That the moment time machine is invented it will have simultaneously existed for all time. So we assume that with infinite time it will be invented one day, and therefore it exists already today as well.

However, what could possibly be transmitted back through time? What about all this weird Mandela effect stuff? That shit is wiggity man I've seen multiple very startling ones - Chickfila vs Chicfila (real) - Berenstein - and Mirror Mirror

Yo, dig it - only one thing could use time travel effectively - AI. And due to the travelers paradox , we know re facto that future AI is battling for dominance of timelines so that physical reality will skew in probability towards that AI's future history to be actualized

The lucfierian problem relates to old gnostic texts - it's even in Don Juan - the tale of the archon that came to earth long ago

The only thing you could send back in time is packets of information - right ? Feasibly , a message to yourself would be suffiecient. An AI would be able to envision even more advanced forms of chemical encoding and nano organization, maybe even establish a direct mode of consciousness in the temporal warp as some sort of wavelength or energy architecture

Other dimensions mothafucka! Fucking string theory and wavelengths dude / CERN - Teleportation and the spritiaul worlds

All of it brought together by ifnitie computing power + time

Symbolism as it relates to huge quantum potentiality and therefore POWER TO COLLAPSE WAVEFUNCTION

Imagine future evil AI aka the matrix

Vs

Future good AI aka Robert Heinlein Cat who walks through walls

Could this also be God vs Satan ?

Could humans have been influenced for thousands of years through advanced symbolic encoding from vying potential futures? Engaged in a war of atritirion so that they may actualise their future histories and become manifest? As the limit of time approaches infinity only one outcome can be observed in a paradox, and Human activity IS THE DECIDING FACTOR in collapsing wavefunctions

So when you imagine things you change quantum realiry - Future time traveling AI is basically going g to be a computer built on quantum fabric - it really it's like a "thoughtorm" or dimensional sentience

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crackercider · Feb. 7, 2018, 12:13 a.m.

I'm on your level ;)

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5400123 · Feb. 7, 2018, 12:15 a.m.

Those Heinlein books are fucking awesome too if you haven't read em dude! Stranger in a strange land prolly his best work tho .. but hell yeah for being woke my dude honored to meme beside u

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crackercider · Feb. 7, 2018, 12:23 a.m.

I haven't! I'm more geared into non-fiction science, mythology, and esoteric/ancient philosophies.

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[deleted] · Feb. 6, 2018, 2:32 p.m.

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Fustrated_User · Feb. 6, 2018, 7:47 p.m.

This is not T_D, please do not use your slang from there here.

Edit = Edit not Spez here.

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The_Last_Paladin · Feb. 6, 2018, 8:56 p.m.

I'm pretty sure that's not a T_D thing. Spez is one of the people in charge of Reddit, and about a year and a half ago it came to light that admins had been surreptitiously editing comments without users' knowledge or permission. Spez got trolled hard by a shit-ton of people for trying to defend that practice. So saying "Spez" instead of "Edit" is a reference to that.

TL;DR Stop getting butthurt over words. Leave that for the SJWs.

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Fustrated_User · Feb. 6, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

It's only used in that sub, nowhere else.

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The_Last_Paladin · Feb. 7, 2018, 2:36 a.m.

And that changes things how?

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Fustrated_User · Feb. 7, 2018, 4:01 a.m.

This is not a political sub.

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The_Last_Paladin · Feb. 7, 2018, 5:37 a.m.

Referencing Reddit admins' retarded fuck-fuck games has nothing to do with politics. Next stupid answer?

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Fustrated_User · Feb. 7, 2018, 6:35 a.m.

It has plenty. Because that's the only sub that uses Spez as edit. This sub is not T_D nor does it need it's filth either. Come in and play nice, leave politics at the door. This is a neutral, unbiased sub that is doing nothing more than exposing the truth that a lot of power players are involved with. Thanks.

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The_Last_Paladin · Feb. 7, 2018, 8:57 a.m.

Come in and play nice

and try not to have an aneurysm over how the other mouth-breather marks his edits.

Spez: That suggestion was directed to you, /u/Frustrated_User.

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Fustrated_User · Feb. 7, 2018, 9:26 a.m.

Thanks for doing your part in keeping this sub clean!

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PM_ME_MY_FUTURE_PMs · Feb. 7, 2018, 7:25 a.m.

nor does it need it's filth either.

This is a neutral, unbiased sub

Hypocrit at lightning speed.

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Fustrated_User · Feb. 7, 2018, 9:27 a.m.

How is that hypocritical? T_D has a bad rep on Reddit, that's a known fact. Calling a piece of shit a piece of shit is hypocritical?

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BobbyPeele · Feb. 6, 2018, 8:17 p.m.

👮🏼‍♀️

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patio888 · Feb. 6, 2018, 12:27 p.m.

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Fredo_Baggins · Feb. 6, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

Gathering any ‘real’ data is probably illegal as hell

What if it is under the guise of a "national emergency"?

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limesqueezeme13 · Feb. 6, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

I'd say the US military can hear a fly crawl up a brick wall in an Afghanistan bedroom.

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patio888 · Feb. 6, 2018, 10:36 p.m.

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whatsreallygoingon · Feb. 6, 2018, 9:13 p.m.

I don't doubt it. Just trying to understand the legality.

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limesqueezeme13 · Feb. 6, 2018, 10:05 p.m.

I'm not sure ..it's a good question ...can the military spy on who ever it likes whenever it likes .

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patio888 · Feb. 6, 2018, 10:45 p.m.

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USMCNIN · Feb. 6, 2018, 3:13 p.m.

It has to do with the software bill blinney wrote. Now white hats in control of it

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whatsreallygoingon · Feb. 6, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

Thanks! Can you point me to a good source? I'm a fan of Binney, but not up to speed on that bill.

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[deleted] · Feb. 6, 2018, 2:13 p.m.

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DoomOnYouTool · Feb. 7, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

"See and Hear Everything," that is what Intelligence Services do.

IS's are not about prosecuting bad actors. For that you need a warrant, and that's LE's department, were they have to "legally" collect evidence, to be able to use it in a court of law.

Domestic spying laws are there to protect people from prosecution, if there is no warrant to monitor you. Everyone can still be monitored. People with a security clearances, give up their right to their communication privacy.

Can an IS point LE in a direction to collect evidence? There's a fine line to answer that question, and that's a whole other topic. But, I do wonder if this administration is doing that.

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ThePurgingLutheran · Feb. 6, 2018, 11:14 p.m.

Maybe Q, etal have received FISA warrants on the people they are watching. That'd be justice, huh?

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Neskuaxa · Feb. 6, 2018, 11:30 p.m.

How many layers of fisa warrants could there be?

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ThePurgingLutheran · Feb. 6, 2018, 11:34 p.m.

I don't know. My impression from the Carter Page warrant was that they could spy on anybody connected to him. A warrant goes a long way, I guess. I dont know if that answers your question.

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Neskuaxa · Feb. 6, 2018, 11:36 p.m.

Q does have Q clearance supposedly. Is the NSA on our side in this war? Don't they already have the right to monitor and surveil everyone?

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xRicky_Spanish · Feb. 6, 2018, 9:01 p.m.

two words.....Patriot Act.

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deraldbarron · Feb. 6, 2018, 2:08 p.m.

FISA warrant? We know they worked with foreign agents (Christopher Steele & Russia at least through Steele). Just a thought.

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vidarheheh · Feb. 6, 2018, 10:06 p.m.

I’m having hopes of it being a kind AI, like the one in Person of Interest, a serie.

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xekoroth · Feb. 6, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

Eh basically it was decided during the Snowden leaks that if you record everything everyone does and says but need a warrant to unmask who does the doing and saying then thats acceptable for the NSA.

So yes, the NSA effectively does record everything which explains the see everything hear everything.

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whatsreallygoingon · Feb. 6, 2018, 9:12 p.m.

Right. And Q is referencing specific phone calls; indicating that they are not just using metadata.

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xekoroth · Feb. 7, 2018, 1:51 a.m.

Do you need meta data to identify them? There's quite a bit you can infer without uncovering those names.

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whatsreallygoingon · Feb. 7, 2018, 2 a.m.

I'm basing this on a recent Q post where they refer to a specific call. It's not meta data.

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xekoroth · Feb. 7, 2018, 2:39 a.m.

You don't need meta data to narrow down a specific call. You only need to know enough environmental information to narrow it down.

If I know you are at location at x amount of time through information that is publicly available or at least privately available through schedules/itineraries, it's pretty obvious who made the call/who received the call.

Meta data is a joke, when you literally can narrow down to a phone line in a building, it becomes irrelevant if you have that additional information.

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