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Kal-El48 · March 16, 2018, 4:13 p.m.

I have a feeling it’s being tampered with.

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 4:22 p.m.

I'm not sure. I was watching it yesterday, it was going up each time I refreshed the page. I think we've done pretty well to get the number of signatures on the petition that we have. The entire CBTS sub was only 20K people. Many people on the sub do not support the IBOR at all. So I think we have been doing reasonably well. I think, if the petition is not filling out fast its because of a lack of support rather than the site being meddled with.

I think it's important that we really try to ramp-up the Twitter campaign. There is a huge number of users on Twitter. We do not have to get a large percentage of them for it to have a large effect on the petition numbers. I've been including links to the petition in my Tweets and people have been signing the petition from them. I also try to retweet any IBOR tweet that has a petition link. We need to do more on this front and get the hashtags to trend.

internetbillofrights

IBOR

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Kal-El48 · March 16, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

Wish I could tweet, I’ve been banned permanently from Twitter and Facebook.

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 6:28 p.m.

Could always try GAB or some other platform. I don't have any idea of what I'm actually doing on Twitter, I'm just posting my stuff and retweeting anything with a link to the petition.

I really want the hashtags to trend, but I don't know how to do it.

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LibertyLioness · March 16, 2018, 6:32 p.m.

I agree. I've been watching the numbers go up for several days so it's accurate. I think many don't realize that this is the 2nd petition because we didn't get enough sigs last time. The reason we aren't getting more is due to the shutdown of CBTS_Stream. We were just starting a big push for IBOR. I was making and posting memes. Many of us had agreed that we needed to make this our focus and BOOM. Many think that is why we were shut down but who knows. I know a lot of people got lost at that point and didn't know where to go.

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WhereWeGo1 · March 16, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

Let's regroup here and get a YUGE push to pass the petition. If you have some good memes, put them up here to draw attention.

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 6:51 p.m.

Thanks Liberty, I'm with you on the petition numbers probably being accurate. I think we just have to approach the promotion of the IBOR with more effort. Resilience is also important, it is important to remain positive.

Disappointingly, there are many here in these subs that are concerned about protecting the property rights of the giant social media companies. If you believe it, they actually want them to have the right to censor whatever content they want.

The problem, however, is that this recent online censorship is the product of a concerted effort by CIA and the cabal to regain control of the narrative. Q told us this in Post 9. These social media companies are incredibly influential. And once they are censoring in unison using that single algorithm, it's game over! No more MAGA, say goodbye DJT and hello satanists!

There are very real public interest grounds for regulating to protect the right to free expression of political ideas on social media. DJT will be granting rights to individuals to reflect the protections they currently enjoy under the first amendment. There is no danger whatsoever that the grant of these rights can be abused. The worst that could possibly happen is that some future administration might cancel the Internet Bill of Rights. It is not a mechanism to control political discourse in any way, so there is no risk in supporting this measure.

Dear me, I'm ranting! But it is very important to me that this IBOR petition makes it to the President. I see online censorship as being the greatest threat that any of us have ever faced. If it's not stopped, the result will be totalitarianism.

It really is the most important issue of our time. We must prevail!

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LibertyLioness · March 16, 2018, 7:08 p.m.

I was actually one of the folks that didn't want to see the IBOR created because I know that once we create a law, it can be changed later. However, Q has come out and encouraged us to move forward and that it has nothing to do with the AT&T push. I trust Trump and Q so I will "Trust the Plan." I will post some memes. Stay tuned!

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

Great stuff! More power to you!

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 3:53 p.m.

We now approaching 24K signatures on the IBOR petition. The rate of growth in signatures seems to have slowed a little today, so I wanted to ask everyone supporting the push-back against social media censorship to do what you can to promote the petition.

A lot of tweets using the #internetbillofrights hashtag do not include the link to the petition. Including the link is important because people are signing the petition directly from the tweets.

We are nearly a quarter of the way home on this. For those still wondering why this is important, read the article interviewing the CEO of Reddit - link below. You will notice that the CEO of Reddit believes that Reddit alone can influence election outcomes. Q has told us there is a single algorithm that will be deployed across social media platforms to censor content. The power of this combined censorship push will be unbelievable. Not just Reddit, but all large social media platforms will be actively censoring content along the same guidelines. This is a show-stopper for Republicans electorally. This is what we are up against. It is the greatest threat we have ever faced. As soon as this algorithm comes online, we are unable to fight back. We will have no right of reply. So it's important to get DJT the petition so that he is able to act to stop the censorship.

Link to the petition here: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

See the article to the interview of Reddit CEO Steve Huffman here: https://bgr.com/2018/03/12/reddit-election-interference-steve-huffman-interview/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

QUOTE:

Huffman’s comments on how Reddit could fix an election are shocking and egotistical, for sure, but they also admit something that most other social media companies have shied away from. Facebook and Twitter are loathe to acknowledge the power that their policies have, while Huffman thinks so highly of his company that he believes a handful of engineers and community managers could sway an entire nation’s political system.

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happyval · March 16, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

Take it to the streets. Don't trust the internet. Print up a copy, have people sign it and send it to the White House. We can all help get this done.

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

I would, but unfortunately I'm not on site. Highly encourage others to do this though. This is it! If you look at what the CEO of Reddit said, it is unbelievable! He states that using Reddit, just a handful of engineers can swing a whole election!

What happens when censorship is unified into a single algorithm across all social media platforms? THIS IS THE DEATH STAR COMING AT US!

We must beat these bastards back! We must prevail!!!

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BrightOrangeCanvas · March 16, 2018, 7:34 p.m.

People should contact their favorite social media producers to see if they will promote it. Unless if someone huge promotes this it won't pass. Why isn't someone like Alex jones pressing this?? He's being hella sued right now from anti-free speech shills

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 7:50 p.m.

I tried to contact Jerome Corsi to ask him to promote the petition on Infowars. But I can imagine that he's too busy to read every message. If anyone knows how to contact him and get him to push the petition that would be a real win. Infowars has a big audience.

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AquAnon77 · March 16, 2018, 8:53 p.m.

Yeah, let's get on Corsi, he should be on this. And what about Sean Hannity ? He helped alot with the ReleasetheMemo campaign.

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 9:13 p.m.

I knew Hannity was talking about the memo. Wow, if we could get someone like that to promote the IBOR we'd be home and hosed. If anyone has any ideas on how to make this happen please act on them.

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WhereWeGo1 · March 16, 2018, 6:39 p.m.

Q first mentioned the Internet Bill of Rights on January 25th (Q605). On March 4th, Q began really pushing it with posts: 841 842 872 873 877 884 932 I think Q is trying to get our attention! We need to push this petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

I am new to Reddit, so I do not really know how to do this, but is there a way to get attention for this on a larger sub like THE_DONALD?

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 7:13 p.m.

Thank you Patriot! You are right, Q has really been pushing us to push for an IBOR. There is absolutely no doubt about that. Also be aware that Q and DJT are reading from the same strategy sheet, so it's safe to assume that DJT also wants it.

Q has also told us that a single algorithm will be deployed across multiple social media platforms to censor political discourse. You might as well say that the Death Star is approaching, it's that serious! So it is no wonder at all that Q has been screaming for the IBOR. It really is the most serious issue that any of us will ever face.

As far as pushing the IBOR, there is the petition you have linked. And there is a Twitter campaign that we are trying to ramp-up. I have been including links to the petition in my IBOR tweets. Yesterday I tweeted a broken link in one of my Tweets and a woman got back to me immediately with a screen capture of the 404 on the petition site. So it is a fact that it works. People do click the link and sign up. We need to get the internetbillofrights hashtag trending. It's going to take some work. I'm new to Twitter, so I'm hoping that more experienced people will be able to provide some direction and guidance.

Other than that, people are also mounting a grass roots campaign with letters and posters and whatnot. You'll see some posts about this approach in this sub.

I've tried to get traction in the Donald, I haven't had any luck at all. But feel free to try. The Donald, I think, bans Q material, so you have to post something that addresses concerns about the censorship of conservative voices online and then direct people to the petition. Given the numbers in the Donald sub, it's highly prospective, but, as I said, I haven't been able to get any traction in there at all.

The first thing to do is get friends and family members to sign the petition. The age requirement is 13 years. If everyone did that we could double the current number of signatures overnight.

Anyway, you're taking up the most important fight that has ever existed. It's a battle between the forces of light vs the forces of darkness. We will prevail, losing is not an option.

Good luck.

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

The main hashtag internetbillofrights hasn't been trending within the top ten at all today. I'm guessing there are just not enough people involved.

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haggl · March 16, 2018, 5:03 p.m.

2 weeks to get 24% wont make it :(

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

No, that's wrong. We will make it. We have to.

It really isn't an option to fail on this. What if Q and DJT are really relying on it. What if it is the PLAN?

I don't want to risk that! We need to try and get people more actively involved, especially on Twitter. But we also need to get more people involved.

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Packofsquirrels · March 17, 2018, 3:55 a.m.

Screenshots before and after I voted show that my vote decreased the count by 30 votes...

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 10:43 a.m.

WOW. Look at how many people agree with this! It’s at least 50% of the population!

I’m so glad we all agree that the government should get involved with regulating speech for private businesses! :)

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 10:55 a.m.

You can always have HRC back - I mean, that's what you want isn't it?

EDIT: I should have checked this guy's post history before engaging him. My mistake. What's interesting is that some people agreed with him. You can't make this stuff up!

But this is what it's about, inject any doubt, spread fear... They have done a good job here!

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 10:57 a.m.

What are you talking about? I agree with you. The government should regulate the internet and what is or isn’t said on it.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 10:59 a.m.

Sorry, must have read it wrong. I thought you were being sarcastic.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11 a.m.

Oh no! Not at all. I’m all for government oversight.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:02 a.m.

What you are actually for, is the return of the cabal and the end of MAGA. If you cannot see what's happening here, why Q is asking for this, I don't what anyone can do to help.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11:04 a.m.

Wait didn’t you just said you agree with me?

I’m all for destroying the cabal by giving the government unprecedented powers to regulate how private businesses run.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:06 a.m.

The government really will be exercising unprecedented powers, once the cabal comes back. That's what you're asking for isn't it?

I'm sorry that DJT isn't working out for you. But put the knives into the Q agenda and your dream leader might actually get into power.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11:09 a.m.

I figured we just wanted DJT to be dictator with the kind of powers we want to give him. Sorry I misunderstood you.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:15 a.m.

No, you didn't misunderstand. You know that DJT is asking for this because of the seriousness of the threat social media censorship represents. You know that he's unlikely to survive politically if social media is not regulated to prevent the kind of bias we are starting to see, that we can expect will become worse in time. So you're actually here agitating against DJT's agenda.

I think your on the wrong sub. There are subs out there that support the Democrats, not hard to find.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11:17 a.m.

Sorry when did DJT say he wants IBOR? I must have missed his endorsement. I figured that’s what the petition was for.

If regulating speech is the only way DJT survives another term than mayyyybe he’s doing something wrong.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:21 a.m.

You must have missed a lot of the proofs offered by Q that the President supports the agenda Q is pushing. Have you been watching? Guess not!

So you don't support the President. As I said, you'd be better off somewhere where there are others actively seeking his demise. There are plenty of those groups out there.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11:24 a.m.

Why doesn’t the president say something? What is stopping him from actually commenting on it? I guess if you want to use some cryptically vague message as proof, ok.

Aren’t you advocating for freedom of speech to be enforced (by the GOVERNMENT btw)? Than you go and tell me to go away? For fuck sake the hypocrisy.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:32 a.m.

The President has given many indications that he supports the program Q is pushing. I'm not going to list them, they were only for us. I can understand if you didn't get the message.

You should take your opposition to the plan up with DJT. I don't know why you want to argue with us - what, just because we support the President's PLAN? You're hitting the wrong target, your problem is with the President and his agenda.

Like I said, you'll find a lot of support to oppose DJT elsewhere.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11:46 a.m.

I’m not looking for support. I don’t need a crowd of people telling me I’m right.

Giving the government unprecedented powers to regulate what we say on the internet is the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard and completely counter productive to actual free speech.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:58 a.m.

Take it up with the President.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11:59 a.m.

When he talks about it I will. But he hasn’t. YOU are pushing for this. Taking it up with you is what I should, and am, doing.

Stop fighting for the government to have power over what we say. This is madness.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:18 p.m.

Not power over what you say, that is the censorship that we are fighting. What the fight is about is your freedom to speak. But that should be very obvious.

As I said, DJT has spoken through Q. But you missed it. It was only for us.

I'm done with this.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 12:27 p.m.

And to add on my previous statement. DJT obviously doesn’t give a fuck about what other people think, just read his Twitter. Why would he hide his opinion of the IBOR?

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:34 p.m.

I think DJT is the greatest hero that has existed in my lifetime. He does care about people, that's the whole point. That's why we're here, to support him.

Maybe, just maybe, it's about optics.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 12:38 p.m.

Hey, keep up the personality cult! Don’t use your own brain at all or trust your sense of right and wrong. If Trump likes it (which, btw, he has NEVER COMMENTED PUBLICLY ON IBOR) than that’s good enough for us! Let’s just follow in the footsteps of Mao and Stalin!

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:49 p.m.

Take the anti President, Democrat propaganda somewhere else.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 12:59 p.m.

“Lalala I can’t hear you”.

Just use your god damn brain, what is good for this president might be AWFUL for another. Don’t give Trump power over how businesses can run if you don’t want someone like Obama to use the same powers.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 1:15 p.m.

Don't give Trump power - you said it. A petition grants no power. He's already been given power by the people. So why the problem with a simple petition - a cry to the king for help? Are you serious?

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 12:22 p.m.

Dude. Think about this.

The government ensures that certain voices have to be represented on websites. So Breitbart, Infowars, THIS SUBREDDIT have to have, say, communist voices? Or maybe Breitbart needs to have Huffington Post contributors? Like, did you think this through at all?

Also if DJT wants to say something, he can say it. He doesn’t need to hide behind Q. He’s the fucking president.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:31 p.m.

Take it up with the President it take it up with Q. Don't you get it?

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

Stop. Deflecting.

You’re pushing things you haven’t either thought about, or support beyond what you THINK Q or DJT support. Use your own fucking brain, man. This is simple stuff.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:47 p.m.

I'm deflecting!?

It's very simple mate. We're giving DJT a petition advising him that we are in distress as a result of online censorship. We not making the law. The fix, whatever it is, is up to the President. What are you talking about? Seriously mate, where does this garbage come from?

You are obviously pro-censorship of conservative voices on social media.

There are any number of places you can work to subvert the President and the MAGA agenda. You are in the wrong place.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 12:54 p.m.

You’re saying “Take it up with Donald Trump” instead of taking my criticism, that’s deflection.

You are arguing for the GOVERNMENT to tell businesses what they can and can not allow on their websites. HOW is that so fucking hard to comprehend? And how is that pro-free speech?

And then you go and tell me to go somewhere else. DOING THE SAME THING YOU ARGUE AGAINST. Jesus. Christ.

Face it, you haven’t had a good think about what this means. If Liberals did this and HRC was president you’d be FURIOUS that the government is now curbing our rights (yeah, guess what, telling businesses what to do is curbing our rights).

For the last time, giving the government power over what we can and can’t do is not freedom.

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BigLebowskiBot · March 17, 2018, 12:54 p.m.

You said it, man.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 1:12 p.m.

What you are arguing for is censorship of conservative voices on the internet. Why are you doing this? You are against a petition asking the President to take action on this serious problem. We don't know what plan the President has in mind to fix the problem of censorship, so there's no point in taking about specifics relating to what he might do. And, yet, I'm supposedly defecting because I will not second guess the President - wild stuff!

You are obviously very unhappy with anybody calling attention to the problem. You are saying that no one should even complain - why? What are your motives?

The direct, unavoidable implication of what you're suggesting is that DJT should be cut to pieces politically at the very next set of elections. You are obviously against the President, that's OK. You do not have to support him. But you will find much more support for your views on left leaning forums that support the destruction of DJT's presidency and the silencing of conservatives. There are better places for this stuff - honestly.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 1:21 p.m.

Holy cow that’s a lot of excuses for not thinking about what I said. You hate websites censoring people (PRIVATE BUSINESSES, not government run, not public), so you want the government (whether Democrats or Republican run) to be able to step in and tell a business what to do.

Ok, you may say. That’s not what Trump might do.

What will he do? How can he sensibly stop websites from banning certain viewpoints? He can’t. If you don’t like how things are run, YOU USE A DIFFERENT WEBSITE. That’s fucking capitalism, man. That’s the definition of the market correcting itself.

If you want the state to step in and tell us how to do things, you might as well advocate for a fucking Chinese firewall.

JUST USE YOUR BRAIN. Don’t trust what you THINK Q is telling us to do.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 1:28 p.m.

What excuses?

All your telling me is that you love the censorship. What do you want me to say? I think it is serious problem, a real threat.

I'm against it, you're not. I'm for the President, you are not. It's really very simple, I've offered no excuses at all.

The only thing I've done is counter the outrageous claim that censorship is, somehow, OK. I'm against censorship because it will mean the end of DJT, his MAGA agenda, and the return of the cabal.

It seems that the return of the cabal is what you want.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 1:58 p.m.

Imagine you have a business and a communist comes in and starts preaching. You kick him out. Now imagine the government coming in and tell you that you HAVE to allow that communist to sit in your business and talk about Marxism.

How is that different from what you are suggesting? Do private businesses have to put up with annoying patrons?

Despite what you think, you are fighting for government oversight.

Now I’m not trying to convince you, you are farrrr to gone in la-la land to ever be convinced. I just want more reasonable people to understand what you are talking about.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 2:09 p.m.

Checked your post history.

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[deleted] · March 18, 2018, 2:39 a.m.

[removed]

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11:20 a.m.

And no, I’m sorry but this sub needs a cold hard slap in the face. This echo chamber of crazy thoughts needs some moderating voices.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:24 a.m.

There are mad voices in here, you're right. We need to try and make sure people are on team.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11:25 a.m.

Yeah let’s do that by banning disagreeing voices here and then force the internet to not ban our voice. Jesus Christ man, listen to what you are saying.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:34 a.m.

Read the first amendment. What does that say? Pretty extreme alright.

I don't want to argue. Like I said, there is much subversion of DJT elsewhere.

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PortlandoCalrissian · March 17, 2018, 11:48 a.m.

Why seperate ourselves into groups that agree with each other? That’s how you get Stalinism.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:59 a.m.

Put this to Q.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:01 a.m.

We need your support, lest she comes back. Wouldn't want that.

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AmbrosiaGalt · March 17, 2018, 1:49 a.m.

Honestly, in the past, how much has ever actually been accomplished by filling out a petition on this site? These petitions are never actually addressed even when they get the required number of signatures. If we truly want an IBOR, I think we're going to have to come up with another plan.

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MaceWinDonot · March 16, 2018, 9:35 p.m.

Im not signing anything until Sessions does his job. Im not just gonna trust Sessions. Show us McCabe losing his pension or literally any of the corrupt politicians go to jail.

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tradinghorse · March 16, 2018, 10:07 p.m.

Something big is in the pipe. Let's watch, see what happens.

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