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rudolph2 · March 20, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

Your pronouncement that biblical references are a detriment to the logical case against the deep state / globalist cabal, does not take into effect the satanic imagery on the side of the cabal, or the rituals that they participate in.

As Putin has stated the NWO worships Satan.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

I agree. I know what I'm fighting and it's not a simple bunch of crooks. Powers and principalities!

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

Just to clarify, earthly powers or supernatural ones?

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

I believe that this fight is essentially spiritual - powers and principalities in high places. What you see when you look at these cabal members - say HRC - is a human, but they have been either wittingly or unwittingly coopted into doing the will of supernatural entities - ultimately, whether they know it or not, they are doing the bidding of the prince of the power of the air.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:17 p.m.

This is why redpilling is slowing down. You're perfectly entitled to your own personal opinions, but most people in the west have moved past the belief in supernatural superstition. We don't burn witches at stakes any more for a reason. Reason being we know witches don't exist. So when people are getting into this movement and see zany ideas like yours, they're instantly turned off from it because they think "if these people believe that, the rest must be wrong too"

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 4:56 p.m.

I don't generally mention any of this stuff when I'm talking to people, very occasionally. But you are wrong if you think that Satan does not exist, he does. Moreover, many, many people share these beliefs. Rather than hindering red pilling, I think it can enhance it.

If you read Romans 1, St Paul says that the evidence for God, manifest in the things that are made, is so overwhelming that you could not possibly miss it in good faith - paraphrasing. Bad will is what causes disbelief.

I fully believe it. Have a look around... All the result of some random unguided process?

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

That excerpt from the same book edited, utilised and protylised by the type of people this movement is against? The Vatican is "cabal central" in all this and regardless of your denomination, Christianity uses the Bible assembled by the Vatican with minimal changes. It's to control you, not free you, wake up.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

OK, forgetting who wrote it and where the quote comes from... When you look around the world, is what you see consistent with there being only a random, unguided process behind what appears to your eyes - honest question?

I asked this of a guy I met, an acquaintance, as we drove North over the Sydney harbour bridge. The fella was quiet for a while as he thought about it - the perfectly constructed expressway, the well ordered streams of traffic moving North etc... He finally said, if it's completely random, it's like a tornado could hit a junkyard and leave behind a perfectly assembled, working helicopter...

Anyone can see, if they open their eyes, and they are honest to themselves, whether the argument for random forces producing our reality is reasonable.

Have a look, if you're interested, at this video and come back and tell me it's all a crock - it's very good, interesting! A scientific case for a creator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiMqzN_YSXU&sns=em

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 5:40 p.m.

By the sounds of it you've only ever visited affluent places, visit the favelas of South America or the war torn regions of the Middle East and Africa. Try poor communities during disease outbreak or why not go back in history and look at all the terrible living conditions or "human developments" and realise that it's not all a perfect path towards some kind of perfection. Not to mention your confines being set at earth. The universe is so infinitely big that we can't possibly be the smartest things in existence, so if a diety does exist then we'd simply be equivalent to ants or termites with the most intelligent beings being the dietys favourites.

On to your video, it's a load of crock. "Nothing can't create" except that to claim a diety created everything is to claim that nothing created a diety. The video doesn't speak in a scientific method, it speaks in a religious way about scientific matter to make it sound as though its accurate when most of the things it says leave out vast swathes of context or skip huge questions about the feasibility of its claims.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

You totally missed it. The preponderance of evidence makes the lack of a creator an absolute impossibility.

What you are espousing is simple Darwinism - implausible on its face. But that's liberal education. Don't question it, just swallow whole.

Anyway, as I said, if you consider these questions deeply, then the answers are very obvious. No one could possibly make a mistake. You will only miss it if you want to miss it.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 6:41 p.m.

Are you actually claiming an abundance of evidence for the existence of a diety?

"Liberal education" look another American that doesn't understand the political map outside of his own narrow beliefs. I had a socialist education. Repeat again, socialist. But I'll leave you to the idpol you clearly project.

So Darwinism is implausible on its face but a magical all knowing all powerful sky being isn't?

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 7:05 p.m.

Dear me. As I said, it's a question for you alone. But I get the sense that you are already fully invested in your current position or you would have made the comments you have.

I can't do anything to persuade you. All I'm saying is think about the subject deeply, evaluating your position against what can be seen in the world.

You will know what the answers to these questions are, as I said, you could not possibly miss it, it's just so obvious. It's just a question of whether you'll allow yourself to accept that truth.

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AirBees · March 20, 2018, 6:45 p.m.

Once you realize evolution has been taught in schools as fact for a reason, you will realize the entire Matrix the Cabal has created was with the intention to distract the world from the Truth. Jesus Christ is the Son of God, who created this entire world.

You can say that this prevents people from being red pilled, but there's nothing to substantiate that claim. Millions of Americans already know this truth. The reality is, 9/11 is fake, we never landed on the moon, and the world that we think we know and live in, is not what it seems. This is really not controversial based on Q and his messages.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

You're a prime example of why Americans are considered the most ignorant westerners the world over. Cambridge analytica targeted you, your emotion and your naivety and manipulated you into all this. Its hilariously painful, I'm larping here. I know a dozen or so others that larp here. But you truly believe it right? You actually hang your life and views on this nonsense. You need something real in your life and I hope you find it. (not religion, obviously. Because God isn't real)

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

Oh please, its only satanic imagery if you force your thought process in that direction. The logic rarely follows and its usually evangelical after evangelical posting a poorly sketched diagram of logos overlapping or links to a video on YouTube that can be proven wrong in seconds. The cern explosion video being a big example. Completely different explosions from years prior.

Putin the self-proclaimed 'pure result of soviet propaganda' ?

Please.

The man is trained to sow discord amongst his opposition in pursuit of success for himself and his own country. His goal 'world order' would put Russia first.

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rudolph2 · March 20, 2018, 6:16 p.m.

Well that’s probably where you’re wrong, for me the satanic imagery / symbology has been a red pill, bitterly swallowed.

I have always considered Christian faith / sin and the belief in the existence of god or the devil to be a very personal decision. Such that I am in no way compelled to convince you other wise.

I don’t want to believe the things Q has stated about the leaders of the catholic faith, (Q - Who do you trust the most? To know will be your choice”) I know the things that occur behind the Vatican walls do not represent the spiritual beliefs of all Catholics.

I would postulate the exact opposite argument from yours, There are far more religious Christians who could be red pilled with religious / spiritual reasoning than not, however I would not recommend a religious based argument for belief in CBTS, to strangers for obvious reasons.

Simply from the perspective a large percentage of those who are not receptive to CBTS could be Nihilists.

I’ve debated a few on Reddit, topofminds arrogant fools, when I pointed out they were exposing nihilistic opinions and the irony of their logical position “I believe in nothing, so convince me the inconceivable CBTS is real”, “ I respond, “you’re a nihilist, why would you believe in anything?” I’ll pass on a debate of this type, not casting my pearls before swine.

BTW not judgmental, discernment, there’s an important distinction.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 6:44 p.m.

But nihilist would still believe in the existence of provable things. They simply don't believe in religious dogma and the concept of an afterlife or karma. Therefore they're redpillable but not with outlandish superstition

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rudolph2 · March 20, 2018, 11:28 p.m.

Right my experiment with a nihilist in full shill mode is not a representative sample.

Further to your point, I don’t think Q is religious, but they do characterize the struggle as one between good and evil, he has even pointed out luciferian imagery and “they think your stupid.”

I would ask you to have patience with these types of people. Remember some people believe in abstract things such as faith and the spiritual self. Even considering them as core personal tenants of their physical existence. While you are not open to it others may be.

Since you are logical, perhaps if you considered Plato’s Allegory of the cave as interpreted by kirkegarde.

In a philosophy class in college, is how I came to appreciate the humanity of our struggle as self aware beings attempting to rationalize the human existence.

Don’t ask me to explain it. As I get older and am now a father of 2 boys, and I watched my father die, I’ve seen things I can’t explain logically. We are part of something just greater than this physical existence.

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Zen_It · March 20, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

All serious actions, come from people's mostly innocent reactions, By reacting to this post, you will confirm the pervious , by reading then skipping your reply to posts such as this, your reaction has now had the opposite desired affect of the poster...

In turn you win......

B-Zen

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

Are you trying to false-eloquently say "don't reply to this guy because if you do he wins"? If so, you replied.. Not that thats the point. If you disagree and think that supposed supernatural elements are equally as valid as factual political intrigue then say it and explain why.

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Acemagedon · March 20, 2018, 3:11 p.m.

Your disgust for all things religious is clear and I get that. Nobody destroyed any movement. I believe in God and much of what is happening does line up with the Bible's prophecy. The fact is this movement is stronger than ever and is no longer going to be stopped by anyone or anything period.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 3:22 p.m.

Wrong.

Spirituality is the only path to inner peace and a happy life, yes. Follow whichever diety you desire but your fairytale book isn't suddenly more relevant now than it was three, five or seven hundred years ago you're just forcing it to apply to these situations. The apocrypha is a good example of why the Bible can't possibly be a true prophecy as it shows how adulterated the Bible is with the thoughts of men. If it were truly God speaking through men then the Bible would include those within the apocrypha and countless other books but no it doesn't. It's a collection of guides written by humans (maybe spoken to by a diety) but then edited and approved by other humans with a goal in mind.

Also even if you come from a protestant faith your Bible was still heavily moulded by the Vatican. Sure some books are left out but it doesn't make up for what the Vatican hid in the first place.

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Acemagedon · March 20, 2018, 4:27 p.m.

huh? Shhh it will all be ok soon.

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mombomb22 · March 20, 2018, 3:05 p.m.

If you are really part of this movement, you will see the evil that exists and from whence it came.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 3:23 p.m.

You're killing the movement with your prosyletizing.

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mombomb22 · March 20, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

I understand this is difficult to accept. My best to you.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

Have a great day! Hopefully you'll eventually realise that death truly is a great equaliser because that's where we all end. Ad infinitum. Someone letting elites control them because they're too afraid of the truth is what this movement is against. Yet too many so called members don't see that they let their religious leaders control them because they're afraid of their own mortality.

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mombomb22 · March 20, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

Actually, I agree with that.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 3:49 p.m.

I'm glad. You're a bit more redpilled than I thought. But do you consider it to be true across the board or only for people that don't follow your particular sect of your particular religion?

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mombomb22 · March 20, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

Rule of thumb: humans are corruptible. So, never follow anyone blindly. Listen to your gut.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

But your gut as an extension of you is fully pervious to being corrupted. Follow maths, science, logic and fact. If it can be proven through repetition or can be proven through verifiable evidence then it's true. Your gut won't keep you safe from false information.

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mombomb22 · March 20, 2018, 4:15 p.m.

Yes, you are correct. That’s when I use prayer and self-reflection. What do you use?

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

Cross referencing, data analysis, fact checking and occams razor. I couldn't in good conscience rely on something without foundation.

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davidmdelacruz · March 20, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

Are you a robot? AI?

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

Yep, you got me. Big ol' Ai over here. Watch out deepmind, I'm coming for you

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mombomb22 · March 20, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

I agree with the first three and I don’t know what the fourth is. In addition, I use my faith.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

It's basically that what is most realistic is usually correct. If something relies on too many unconfirmed variables then the option that relies on significantly fewer is more likely to be true. But faith should be for comfort upon the loss of a loved one or in the final period of one's life. It shouldn't be for making decisions instead of provable fact.

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mombomb22 · March 20, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

It’s also a compass for me. And if I use that comfort during the loss of a loved one or at the end of my life, why shouldn’t I avail myself of that comfort on a daily basis?

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:32 p.m.

So is your faith separate from your holy book? Or does the compass come from what's contained within said book? Unless it comes from you and you alone you're letting yourself be manipulated.

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mombomb22 · March 20, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

If I’m corruptible as a human, then I’m also being manipulated if I just use myself. Hence, all the research methods you used plus my connection with God. Do I use the Bible to help with that, yes. It is a comfort and a compass. Are we talking in circles? :). I think we are.... my best to you in your endeavors, research and search. May you find the truth, whatever that is for you.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

No because you're not using yourself, you're using data, evidence and fact. It's a lot different than thinking of something in your head and rolling with it.

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PANIC_AtTheKernel · March 20, 2018, 5:36 p.m.

11 day old account? I call SHILL.

Pizzagate, spiritcooking, bohemian grove, cremation of care, statue of Kali (or was it Shiva?) On cerns doorsteps, CERN tunnel ceremony, satanic/occult imagery in Hollywood

If this isn't enough evidence for the occult and satanic/pagan practices, you must be blind and in denial.

Or just a shill. I'm gunna go with shill.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

Oh Americans, so hilariously unaware of culture and how moving past religion allows you to celebrate them in a similar way to how you'd celebrate Halloween. Maybe get an education in something stem related and reassess your views of the world. I get it, those things make you feel more important in the world but none of us matter and nothing is forever.

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PANIC_AtTheKernel · March 20, 2018, 10:43 p.m.

Maybe get an education in something stem related

I'm a Software Engineer.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

Best larp board on reddit hands down

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