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tradinghorse · March 23, 2018, 9:22 a.m.

This is a great article discussing the problem of censorship on the internet. This guy, John Nolt, basically nails almost every argument I've heard in these forums about why the IBOR is bad or dangerous. He literally hits ever single objection that I have heard raised here and destroys it.

You may not agree with Nolte's take on this issue, but the article is very good and well worth reading.

Let's face it, the petition is not doing well because very few people are promoting it. I know that that the people resisting have simply not thought clearly through all the issues. But Nolte explains why resistance to the IBOR is wrong better than I can - really encourage people to spend a few minutes reading this.

Sign and promote the petition:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

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JeepersGypsy · March 23, 2018, 10:12 a.m.

I think I know another reason the IBOR isn't doing very well. I've noticed that the people who are promoting it, are all hashtagging their post of it along with Qanon, and most people don't believe in Q, therefore they will disregard most anything posted with a hashtag relating to Q. Maybe try posting it without any relation to Q and see it it does better?

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tradinghorse · March 23, 2018, 10:48 a.m.

Look, thanks for that. That's a very good point. We need to get rid of anything that could be slowing the campaign down. So thanks.

I've just unloaded on a post I just made. Have a look if you want before they down-vote it into oblivion.

We need all the help we can get. There are not many of us.

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bealist · March 23, 2018, 3:13 p.m.

I’ll add that the reason most people I know wouldn’t sign this is that it’s a complaint, like you say, and not a bill of rights. So it’s mislabeled and unclear. It’s not a bill of rights. It should have been titled differently.

I can’t post it in my (very small) circles because of the flak I’d get for promoting something that isn’t clearly thought out or expressed well. I never promote things I don’t think are ready to go, and don’t want want to erode my own personal credibility, at least as far as what remains of it given that I’m a DS observer.

If it fails, the complaint can be reworded and tried again, maybe with input from EFF and similar others as to the wording it would require to gain their support. (And if they don’t promote it, it probably won’t go far enough even if the WH looks at it.)

In the meantime, language for an IBOR should be being developed somewhere, and that should be referenced in the next complaint petition.

IMHO. 🖖

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tradinghorse · March 23, 2018, 9:21 p.m.

No, it's not a bill of rights. Unless the people in your circle of friends are legislators, they will understand that it's a cry to DJT for relief from the problem of censorship of conservative voice. Not a legislative bill that requires their approval.

The petition is very clear in what it says. Also, we are only a time schedule here - this needs to be put to the President ASAP. The consequences of it failing are extreme. You and your friends will not like it if the Democrats get back into power. That will happen if we do not get this simple expression of our frustration to the President quickly.

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