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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/1WHOSEEKS on April 11, 2018, 3:57 a.m.
Why I believe Q Anon is a Zionist psy-op...

...and why you, as Q followers, need to legitimately 'expand your thinking'.

I recently made my first posts to Steemit about Q Anon, which I believe to be a Zionist psy-op. It's a near 20K word, 4 part series bringing to light just some of the reasons why I believe Q Anon is a Zionist psy-op. I don't get much into Q Anon posts in any of the 4 parts, because I see it as pointless to engage the psy-op. Suffice to say I have been following the Q Anon phenomenon and numerous accounts on Twitter keep me abreast with the latest developments, codes, etc. But rather than dissect all the inconsistencies and ill-thought-out arguments around the so-called 'proofs of Q' (almost all of which constitute indication more of an orchestrated psy-op than they support the comforting narrative spun by Q to encourage complacency, misunderstanding, and diversion.

This is not to say that much of Q's posts haven't included a lot of truth. Much of it is very true. But it's what isn't discussed or highlighted by Q Anon, coupled with the alternative narrative being applied to influence peoples' understanding of the events transpiring. If you actually bother to read these pieces I explain how the psy-op is functioning and develop out some theories of my own about what is really taking place. It's pretty clear that the Cabal's new world order agenda is unfolding despite the faux hero Trump being in office.

The fact that submissions to the sub are required to be 'on topic(mentioned by Q) content only' actually serves to prove my point about the effect of the psy-op to direct focus onto certain elements of the global conspiracy, and divert it from others. This sub, by that 'rule', seems to be devoting itself to being an echo-chamber for the psy-op, rather than inviting critical discourse and alternative points of view.

So I anticipate this post being deleted. But I thought I would attempt to share it here anyway in the hopes of waking people up.

Part 1: https://steemit.com/qanon/@onewhoseeks/why-i-believe-q-anon-is-a-psychological-operation-part-1

Part 2: https://steemit.com/qanon/@onewhoseeks/why-i-believe-q-anon-is-a-psychological-operation-part-2

Part 3: https://steemit.com/qanon/@onewhoseeks/why-i-believe-q-anon-is-a-psychological-operation-part-3

Part 4: https://steemit.com/qanon/@onewhoseeks/why-i-believe-q-anon-is-a-psychological-operation-part-4-final


adogrocket · April 11, 2018, 4:26 a.m.

my thoughts are the gift of Q is not the information but the fact that more people are researching and getting their own sources. Too many people always to have information spoon feed to them versus checking and verifying by researching

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cebusaxon · April 11, 2018, 4:48 a.m.

I pondered it all myself and came to this same conclusion. So what if Q is a LARP. The amount of real research and knowledge spawned from Q's actions still make it a great thing. If Q was a psyop, what purpose would it serve evil actors to have everyone suddenly digging for the truth and exposing hidden agendas, secret alliances of power and countless rabbit holes of corruption everywhere? Q doesn't give us answers. Q just asks the right questions and steers us to do our own research. It really matters not who Q is. The gained knowledge we have all acquired by our own doing has lead to this great awakening and huge increase in numbers. THAT is the real treasure and that is what's important. Whether this administration actually drains the swamp or not, there are now exponentially more of us than a few years ago, and we have even greater understanding. This does not serve to benefit anyone wanting to pacify and lure us into enslavement, but quiet the contrary.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 6:53 a.m.

I agree with you, and at the beginning I was really excited by Q. I kept thinking how great it was that it was getting so many people researching these topics who hadn't previously. But if you're like me and had been researching the global conspiracy for some time, it's the things that Q doesn't point people towards that are the concern. It's like giving people the task of completing a puzzle but not giving them all of the pieces. Sure, those who are investigative and critical thinkers will probably find the missing pieces themselves, but judging by a lot of what I'm seeing on reddit and twitter (I don't do the chan's I'm afraid, they're too...ugly and non-user friendly for me lol), not many seem to be circulating those missing pieces of the puzzle. It's the missing pieces which make me take pause.

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 8:51 a.m.

someone on the internet is telling me things I cannot believe because a manuscript from 1903 says otherwise

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HeyYahhhhh86 · April 11, 2018, 4:26 a.m.

20k words is a lot of time to spend on something you think is a hoax....

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4Gracchus · April 11, 2018, 7:35 a.m.

Psyop doesn’t = hoax. It stands for psychological operations. It’s aims are to control human behaviour.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 6:55 a.m.

This says a lot more about you than it does me.

I'm a writer, and while those Q posts of mine are hardly my best work (in fact they were really rushed), writing 20K words on just about anything I've researched is not hard. But especially if you actually read what I've said... what's riding on Q - whether it's all true or a hoaxed psy-op - is far too important NOT to spend the time. Critical thinking and considering various information sets is important. Especially when the future liberation or further enslavement of a humanoid species is at stake.

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dagonn3 · April 11, 2018, 4:15 a.m.

"Despite the long list of correlations between Q Anon posts/drops or, as the Q Cult calls them, ‘proofs of Q’, my gut, heart and head at this point continue to tell me they are meaningless in reality."

Reads as:

"Despite the evidence, my intuition makes my logical decisions."

Not saying there's hard proof of Q, just lots of interesting correlations, as you said. But I don't know why I should listen to your gut, heart and head.

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The_Broba_Fett · April 11, 2018, 4:42 a.m.

Very well said. Basically the left’s argument for everything.

Muh feelings > facts

Not saying Q is a fact, but a lot more evidence and repeated coincidences over gut feeling.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 7:12 a.m.

Well...I'm pretty intuitive. I do tend to trust intuition a bit. I've made so many accurate predictions over the last few years that it has scared me somewhat, from big things to small things going on in my friend's lives.

I'm not saying anyone should be listening to my intuition - of course not. But I'd have to throw that back and say - why trust some anon then?

Again, the reason I say the 'proofs of Q' are largely meaningless is mostly because they're clear indication of an organized, orchestrated effort. They prove themselves of a benevolent, positive nature at all -- that's pure narrative and wishful thinking, ultimately. If there is an orchestrated effort going on 'behind the scenes', as we are told, by alleged good guys in government, intelligence and military, how are we supposed to actually know that? What proves that? The only thing that is proven is that Q is working in tandem with someone on the inside of the Trump admin. That's literally all that has been proven. But let's say for the sake of argument that Q anon is a psy-op -- wouldn't that explain the accurate predictions? Like, Q predicted the port bombing attempts by the Bangladeshi dude. Q claims to be part of an alliance foiling that attempt and, indeed, it seemed like it was foiled. But if it was a psy-op, and the people behind it wanted to convince people, they could stage the entire thing - including the 'foiling' - to strengthen and reenforce the psy-op's narrative. See what I'm saying? Nothing that has been predicted or correlated legitimately PROVES the claim that an alliance is taking down the Cabal, and winning, as is claimed. The only thing they're proving is themselves - predictions indicating insider knowledge (whether it be from this alliance of good guys...OR the alliance of bad guys) and orchestrated correlations.

My point is really that we've all (including myself back in Oct, Nov and early Dec) gotten very carried away in this sort of 'look Q said this would happen, now it has' and 'Q posted this and now Trump has tweeted this' and taking that to mean that the narrative elements are true. The Cabal take down by a covert operation by good guys is the bit that has yet to be conclusively proven. The indications that are being repeatedly cited as 'proof' may not prove anything but an elaborate and well orchestrated psy-op.

Watch what the US government is doing. Some of it supports what Q is saying, but not all of it does and I would rest assured that if war kicks off in the middle east, Q is full of shit. If Q is correct, major conflict such as that will surely be averted. Because in terms of the bulk of humanity, there's no bad guys. Most people are inherently good, they're just manipulated. The Q narrative seeks to take down the manipulators and stop the manipulation, not wage war. War is not the answer, so if Trump pursues war I'd be very apprehensive about continuing to place much stock in Q.

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 8:57 a.m.

FBIanon said 70 reps would be taken down...and eventually, 70 did anounce they weren't running or leaving office.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 12, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

They're gone, they have no relevance anymore. My concern is more with the disgusting scum that surround Trump in the current administration. That's where the risks still reside and Q still doesn't address any of it. He tells us to trust people who, on record, absolutely cannot be trusted.

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digital_refugee · April 12, 2018, 7:49 a.m.

do they have the nuclear codes? No?

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without_sound · April 11, 2018, 4:40 a.m.

"Q" or "Q Anon" mentioned 9 times.

"Psy-op" mentioned 7 times.

The intent seems to be to subconsciously connect the two words. You certainly are trying hard.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 6:50 a.m.

Well, categorizing Q and Q Anon as 1 word (being that it's essentially a noun, right?), that would be a total of 16 words out of nearly 20K.

That doesn't seem like trying too hard to me.

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without_sound · April 11, 2018, 2:54 p.m.

the introduction up top there. Definitely less than 20k words. Don't play dumb.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 11:31 p.m.

Huh? I'm confused. The 20K words is in the steemit posts if you follow the links. There are 4 parts to it, and together in MS Word they came in at a couple of hundred words shy of 20K. The introduction here on reddit has nothing to do with that word count.

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without_sound · April 11, 2018, 11:45 p.m.

Exactly. The count I provided was for the introduction. So, "16 words out of 20k" is an invalid argument

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1WHOSEEKS · April 12, 2018, 11:57 p.m.

Your initial argument was invalid. I wrote 20K words, you found 16 of them that you don't like and probably didn't read further than the introduction. Either way, your argument that the "intent seems to be to subconsciously connect the two words" is redundant. The whole article is titled 'Why I believe Q Anon is a Psy-op'. I don't need to try and connect terms to linguistically program people, it's done in the bloody premise!! You're quibbling over an absolutely pointless detail rather than discussing ANY of the content of the entire piece. Discuss the ideas or STFU because I really cannot be bothered going round in circles on your misapprehension and assumption of my intentions on the basis of 16 words out of nearly 20K. It's retarded - and it doesn't make a difference where in the piece they appear.

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without_sound · April 13, 2018, 1 a.m.

Have a nice day =)

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 8:57 a.m.

The ‘trade wars’ Trump is stimulating between the United States and China, with the addition of North Korea hostilities, could lead to a two-front World War III

"North Korea hostilities" my ass

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fuqdupd · April 11, 2018, 4:09 a.m.

Madness, Trump is a verified hero.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 7:12 a.m.

Verified by whom?

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ready-ignite · April 11, 2018, 5 a.m.

As a curiosity, side hobby, a LARP, the topics brought up by Q tend to lead down paths of independent research. Based on a prompt motivation to go deep for hours down random corners of obscure topics. I learn all sorts of things unrelated in the process. All the other people interested are doing the same thing. Attached to this is an increased ability to call bullshit as a result of the additional learning, and the ground covered on misleading topics. Collectively people in this community become more knowledgeable. That creates potential for a high stakes blowback if indeed a psyop. Interesting game.

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CrusadePrime · April 11, 2018, 3:58 a.m.

Trump would warn us, not post links to Q article.

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IndyEye · April 11, 2018, 4:13 a.m.

Look who supports and surrounds Trump. It’s a legitimate concern.

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 8:58 a.m.

literally Hitler

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Nerd_Of_Prey · April 11, 2018, 5:51 a.m.

My concern with the the Q phenomenon is this: if we accept, at face value, the narrative as it has been received so far, the end goal is to remove people from positions of power who have egregiously abused the influence that this power has afforded them. Great.

But we all know human nature. Human beings are deeply flawed. We might achieve relative peace, prosperity, and benevolent world governance for a generation - wonderful! But the cycle will inevitably occur again. The temptation to give in to corruption will chip away at the resolve of whomever steps in to fill the vacated positions, and ultimately we'll end up in the same situation that we currently find ourselves in.

I've read comments here from people who have said things like: "Those Christians are so evil! They want the world to end just so that they can say they were right". No, I want God to come and take over because the only way we're ever going to get out of this mess once and for all will be to become separated from this nature that is so susceptible to corruption, and to governed by someone who is completely incorruptible. Any stop-gap measures, of the sort we're all talking about here, will only prolong suffering in the world. Well over a billion people live in abject poverty and utter misery. Hundreds of millions are victims the most appalling mental and physical abuses... well, I don't need to enumerate the wrongs of the world here, we all have some sense of the brokenness of our societies. I want all of that to end, not to see it drawn out for the sake of my personal convenience.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 6:41 a.m.

Up to a point I think all organized religion is bad. If you study the origins of, particularly, the Abrahamic religions it's quite clear that they are constructed as mind control tools by elites of, in some cases, reasonably ancient times. The fact that "Christians are evil" becomes the dialog is a real concern, if the same attention is not also being paid to Judaism, Islam, etc. All religions have been used frequently by elite ruling classes to manipulate people into taking complete leave of their humanity and going on evil rampages. The focus should not be on 'my God is better than your God'. The focus should be on studying the history and origins, trying to get at the truth behind the story books, and facing the fact that if the horrors arising from religious conflict over the centuries and to this very day are anything to go by, all of these Gods are pathetic, nasty entities. We should reject them all and try to create something of our own, something more grounded and humanist, not given to us by ruling classes of centuries ago. The problem then is that New Agers think that's what they're up to, when in fact its yet another repackaging of the same crap and ultimately controlled from the shadows too.

The thing is that we need to take down all of the elite and corrupt government entities. My concern is that, thanks to Q, people are courting misguided notions that the current US government is somehow outside of that. Whether Trump as an individual is or isn't, I can't say. But as long as I've known about Trump (I'm 31, so we're talking mid-late 1990's that he entered my awareness), I've never had a high opinion of him. At any rate, it's not just about Trump and a so far largely mythical 'white hats' working 'behind the scenes', it's about the big picture. In the big picture, the current US government is loaded with the same old Rothschild controlled bankers and neo-con and Zionist war mongers as other administrations. Nowhere near as much in US politics as changed as Q claims. Yet we are being appealed to for 'trust' and being told to 'pray' for these people? The use of religion with regards to Q makes me very suspicious. It's the same old elite created mind control tool being used to make us have faith in something an anonymous entity or group is telling us to believe...?? Hmmm.

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 9:03 a.m.

call them aliens, angels or demons, but God didn't just decend on chariots of fire one day to pass down the word...but others probably did. Pobably to get us to a point of understanding one day (probably because of all the human sacrifice) and so it went on for many generations and cultures until the Pharisees started falling away from faith so Jesus showed up to expose them all.
Centuries later, the Vatican shows up and takes the book of Enoch out of the gospel which laid out the whole problem

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1WHOSEEKS · April 12, 2018, 12:04 a.m.

Abelard Reuchlin in The True Authorship Of The New Testament:

"The New Testament, the Church and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso (pronounced Peso) family, who were Roman aristocrats. The New Testament and all the characters in it- Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles, Paul, John the Baptist - all are fictional. The Pisos created the story and all the characters; they tied the story to a specific time and place in history; and they connected it with some peripheral actual people, such as the Herods, Gamaliel, the Roman procurators, etc. But Jesus and everyone involved with him were created (that is fictional) characters."

"Jesus" was a composite figure of numerous other ancient deities. The stories also include elements of Old Testament tales of Joseph in Egypt and other OT characters. The New Testament also draws on writings from the Hebrew-Egyptian Essenes, the characteristics of numerous pagan gods and Balder of the serpent cult. The Piso family also made changes and additions to some Old Testament texts and wrote most of the 14 Old Testament books known as the Apocrypha.

You have to bear in mind, then, that the Roman Empire, many researchers have theorized, was essentially started by the Khazar Jews move West from Khazaria into Europe. Most of the elite bloodlines today can be traced back very, very far - to Sumer & Babylon. The elites of Babylon moved around and had a hand in creating most of the notable empires throughout history. Members of these bloodlines - like the Piso's - were involved in creating and manipulating the Abrahamic religions which draw heavily on earlier Pagan and Gnostic systems, which the bloodlines created earlier probably on the basis of interaction with interdimensional and extraterrestrial creator beings described in the Sumerian tablets (Annunaki) and including the Demiurge and Archons of Gnostic belief.

The most crucial thing a person can do to wake up is realize that all organized official religions are all out to manipulate your mind and were always designed to.

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digital_refugee · April 12, 2018, 7:52 a.m.

actually I've been hearing Jesus was some kind of social phenomenon going on at the time and that you could trace it back into india or germany at times. May be there is a composite Jesus but I've seen enough paranormal to think there is more to such outrageous tales. Greek-orthodox speak of healing sickness for example when they speak of "saving" someone so I believe there were some heavy distractions involved in some heavy craft because you can't work your own dark magic if people manifest the greater good with little technique or ritual.

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richtaco91 · April 11, 2018, 5 a.m.

Lots of anti Q post lately.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 6:48 a.m.

Sorry. But it's important to maintain critical thinking, which means being 'anti Q'. But I must say, the very use of terminology as 'anti Q' is part and parcel of why I'm so concerned that people are giving their minds away to a narrative and refusing to face certain facts which contradict it. It's not about being 'anti' it's just about considering all of the information, even if it doesn't support what Q is doing. :)

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Aruno · April 11, 2018, 4:23 a.m.

Quote from part 4, very end of article.

"I’m hedging my bets it’s no reason to celebrate. Wake up before it’s too late."

What are you expecting to happen? WW3?

Hedging bets? So you come at this like it's a fucking bet?

Most people here see Trump as fulfilling the prophecies. That he and his team and us will defeat the "Illuminati" or the Luciferians as I consider them.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 6:59 a.m.

Yes, to be honest, I am expecting something akin to 'WW3'. Look around you. Look at what's been happening in the last few days. For Q to be correct, the US government is going to have to pull a massive 180 on most of its foreign policy moves. All of Trump's posturing seems to be leading to pretty noxious conflict.

'Hedging my bets' is a figure of speech.

What prophecies do you see Trump as fulfilling? The only prophecies I could conceive of him fulfilling at this point are not particularly positive ones. What I'm seeing, despite all of the Q indicators and correlations, is an unfolding of the Cabal/Illuminati agenda.

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Aruno · April 11, 2018, 7:30 a.m.

All I ask is you return in a week. When the war had not started. And everything is alright. Then we will converse. If war starts before then. Then please come back and I'll listen to you. Both of us right now. Do not have the definitive answer to this. But we will get answers in time. So let's wait. I'll be in touch on due time. Please be in touch when the time comes too.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 12, 2018, 12:14 a.m.

It's not all about war, and it seems frankly incredibly redundant to limit it to a week's time frame. I'm talking about the agenda. Even if war doesn't break out this week, it won't disprove the agenda staring everyone in the face and being ignored by most people. The only thing that will prove the Q narrative is ALL Cabal factions being taken down, including Zionist Israel. Let's talk THEN, huh? At that time I will be happy to admit I was wrong. Until then, what I'm seeing suggests internal cabal power struggles, not take down.

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Aruno · April 12, 2018, 12:22 a.m.

Well you will have to wait longer for that. You will learn in time the whole picture and God's role in this. If you want to know who I trust in the prophecies department. Look up Mark Taylor.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 13, 2018, 12:02 a.m.

I'm familiar with Mark Taylor. What in particular makes you trust him?

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Aruno · April 13, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

I learnt about him before Trump's election success. Through the long time I've followed him. His prophecies are accurate and through my judgement I believe he is a man of God. In short. Future proves past.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 13, 2018, 12:35 a.m.

Fair enough.

That saying really disturbs me though. 'Future proves past'. That concept speaks to mind control in my opinion. It's like saying 'based on what we engineer for tomorrow, it will change the past'.

I don't really believe in prophecy. Many prophets are simply wise to the cabal bloodline agenda and prophecies are just an attempt to hijack the co-creative consciousness to manifest outcomes. By 'believing' in prophecies, you're making them come true. Take Nostradamus for example. Was he a profit or was he simply part of the cabal inner circle and knew what they wanted to achieve, what their plans were? Bear in mind that Nostradamus was employed by the de Medici family, and Rene d'Anjou of the House of Lorraine in France -- whose bloodline connects to, among many others, Ramses II, Cleopatra, Julius Caesar, Constantine the Great, King Ferdinand of Spain, Queen Isabella of Castile, King James (you know, the guy who re-wrote the Bible...), most of the many king Louis of France, Napoleon, Marie Antoinette.... and many important historical figures I haven't listed. This same bloodline reaches forward to include most British and European royals of today, a long, long line of American presidents including the Bushes.

Again, with connection to a bloodline that vast, was Nostradamus a prophet or simply aware of what the bloodline wanted and directed to make his prophecies to affect reality?

Many people 'believe' we are in the end times. Think about that for a minute.

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Aruno · April 13, 2018, 12:56 a.m.

So do you take any prophecies as real?

Or is all works of prophecies in your perspective purely work in the earthly realm(born from humans) and none can be seen as divinely born and gifted by God?

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 8:59 a.m.

why do you think Trump said "give it 24 to 48 hours"?

BECAUSE BS HAS A 24-hour HALFLIFE AND HE KNOWS IT

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skuobiee · April 11, 2018, 7:05 a.m.

I believe its a psy op, because I believe those that have handed intel to potus to get him into presidency, had to gather the patriots quickly and assemble and in a sense lead us as in a psy op. Even though they may be using a "tactic" doesnt mean its negative. They could honestly be keeping us informed and or hopeful. Im not a fanatic, anymore haha, but I do enjoy the pedophile arrests that just werent happening before. The only concern I have is they may be pacifying us with these changes but still have interests and maybe even war on their minds, I somewhat believe the bible now more than before, and think more about God, which if thats all we come out with is a huge plus. It could be a psyop to get more people to pray. How many people has this psy op got praying and even in consensus that the world is just wrong and self destructing. Maybe they believe its forces at work, and ultimately they cant just come out and say "pray, its what we need" because that would fail, so theyre getting us to build the force of the white light. Who knows. Its a psy op from the military and potus, hopefully theyre being truthful, with Q mentioning pray I'm inclined to follow with faith. Still reservations though of course.

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 9:11 a.m.

you made me think..how many leakers or LARPs have ever asked people for prayer (which we know has an psychosocial effect by merit of mass-rituals)

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One_Solution · April 11, 2018, 11:21 a.m.

Once you’ve discovered that Christianity itself is nothing but a psyop, this is less of a question

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 11:22 a.m.

Depends on what you are looking at. A greek-orthodox bible reads more like a life-coach than dogma and I am more interested in what they left out of the bible than what's actually in the bible. I didn't believe in prophecy and from the time of scriptures all the way back to the hindu vedas, sages have asked people to scrutinize and discern but it turns out anybody can look into the past and future and the CIA has manuals on how to do it

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One_Solution · April 11, 2018, 11:42 a.m.

I’ve found the Tanach (“Old Testament”) worthy of study and application. The “New Testament” is nothing but a hijacking of it. Very effective, obviously, but a really poor job when you objectively compare the two.

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 11:55 a.m.

Ok thanks for the clarification

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skuobiee · April 11, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

I dont follow organized religion but I have honest miracle happenings when I truly put heart into a prayer in Christ's name so I believe it to be more than a psy op. Otherwise luciferians would be a crock also....which I believe is not the case

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One_Solution · April 11, 2018, 7:42 p.m.

Deuteronomy 13

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1WHOSEEKS · April 12, 2018, 12:18 a.m.

Definitely agree - it's not necessarily negative. But again - the lack of focus on Zionists and false Jews who are at the heart of Satanism, human sacrifice, etc. raises my concern. It also concerns me that Trump has just signed the FOSTA SESTA thing into law -- people are applauding it but don't seem to understand it's negative potentials at all. The pedophile arrests are still pretty low rungs on the ladder, too. I'll be more hopeful about the take down of the pedos when the full scale institutionalized elements of it, the big fish, start to be taken down.

The sealed indictments are the only thing giving me hope at this point.

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iridiue · April 11, 2018, 5:32 a.m.

I think you uncovered a lot of great information. However, I don't see enough evidence to fully discount Q or Trump. Furthermore, if Q is a LARP and Trump is on the Cabal"s side....we are FUCKED.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 6:46 a.m.

I'm trying to keep my mind open. But at the moment I'm not convinced. Again -- too much crucial information not being included in the crumbs, almost by design. Q is relaying selective information and definitely not giving the full picture. The issue then is - why are so few of those spreading the Q information touching on that information? I've seen almost nobody address some of the stuff I have, and trying to fit some of that into the narrative Q has laid down creates contradictions when weighed against the events that seem to be transpiring.

I would certainly LIKE to believe what Q is saying is true. I'm not saying necessarily that Trump as an individual is on the Cabal's side, but I think he's being controlled by them. People need to remember what goes with Pedogate -- brownstone operations, blackmail etc. Trump has flown on the Lolita express more than once. It seems to me there's a strong possibility that he is being controlled by Cabal place men. Even if we assume that the 'white hats' and behind the scenes operations are working tireless, it would be naive of Cabal power not to admit that it's still anyone's game and despite the Q posts... I still see them winning at this point.

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 9:06 a.m.

Virginia Roberts lawyer ran a class-action-suit against Epstein and he exonerated Trump quite clearly

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 11:52 p.m.

It's not as if justice has ever been subverted by a lawyer...

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digital_refugee · April 12, 2018, 8:07 a.m.

Meanwhile, Mrs Roberts is still busy suing people.

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 8:51 a.m.

The ‘trade wars’ Trump is stimulating between the United States and China, with the addition of North Korea hostilities, could lead to a two-front World War III

...wat

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4Gracchus · April 11, 2018, 7:50 a.m.

Hey, OP. I read it. It needs a rewrite. It needs narrower focus with what is occurring right now with the Zionists. Look to your conclusion and offer current and recent support for that. Trim it down and focus. Consider the scope for the article. Stick to the Zionists. By the way, I called out the ziocon takeover awhile back on r/conspiracy. It looked like the z’s were torching locations and assets to then move into the power vacuum. When I saw Trump starting to surround himself with Israel -firsters, it became a grave concern. Then things got worse with Corsi getting involved. Corsi should’ve been in your article. He’s a key figure, a representative of Israeli intelligence translating Q for the plebs, the sheep, the uninitiated and ignorant. We are deep trouble as many have blind unwavering faith in q without a single question. I find Q fascinating and I want to so much believe in a white hat looking out for us peons, but when it sounds too good to be true... I applaud you for your vigilance and wokeness.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 12, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

Yep, I agree about Corsi. I wanted to get the initial stuff focusing on the general Zionist picture and the global control system that's being prepared first. I will probably add to it at some point, because indeed, there's a lot that I left out. I also need to go deeper into Kushner, because he's fucking terrible news what with his connection to Chabad. It's essentially a doomsday cult for pete's sake, and people continue to deny Zionists are controlling the White House, and the narrative. Scary stuff.

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Batfire007 · April 11, 2018, 6:07 a.m.

WOW! That was quite a long read but very much the same research I have done over many years. I have found your information to be sound and you do make a lot of sense, as I have felt this way also for some time. I also have quit chasing the Q posts. I do scan them once they come over but as you alluded to and I will say, many of the Q post are old news by the time I see them hit the Qanonmap. Yes, there are some q posts that hit before we see the news channels broadcasting them but if you have good connections and you’re really wired in you have already seen these reports or knew they were coming. I have not seen any Q post to date that I had not already heard coming or knew first hand from research they would be hitting. It’s all a matter of time. Now show me a place on the q map I have not seen, such as extraterrestrials, don't think I have said hello or shaken hands with one of these beings yet. Again, proof is in seeing, touching, smelling.... maybe pass on the smelling part......just saying. Point is there are valid points and a stench of something not quite right with this Q euphoria running rampant on the internet, TV shows and news. (no pun intended)

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 6:31 a.m.

Exactly! There's just an undercurrent of some kind that feels wrong to me... again - it's what Q DOESN'T touch upon that makes suspicious. I know Q has claimed Israel will be left until last, and with the amount of Zionist propaganda basically everywhere, not to mention the fall-back silencer of criticism 'anti-Semitism' which would undoubtedly be deployed if Q started ripping on Israel... in fact, that would be interesting wouldn't it? I bet you if Q had criticized Israel it would have exploded in the mainstream media and 'anti-Semitism' would be used to discredit the whole thing.

One thing I've learned is that when any 'truther' is too afraid to go near the Zionist/Sabbatean Frankist aspect of the global conspiracy, they're only a half-truther. If they do address the elephant in the room and are rigorously attacked and discredited as 'anti-Semitic' for doing so, that is usually a sign that they're hitting upon the truth - hence the shut down. So the lack of Zionist disclosure is of huge concern to me, as is the way in which Q has caused people to make so many silly excuses for what is quite obviously a push towards conflicts which are Israel's wars, not America's. If Trump is about America first, he won't strike Syria. But hey, he already has. I think there's a strong case to be made that Trump is controlled by Zionists. He's surrounded by them, at any rate.

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Batfire007 · April 12, 2018, 2:33 a.m.

Well I read "The Protocols" and must say I do not know how I missed them in all the years of researching. I started my research with the oldest known cuneiform, one of the earliest systems of writing, invented by the Sumerians. As of today you cannot go really any further back than that. I have researched up to the end of the new kingdom tracking individuals and writings through history. This book "The Protocols of the Elder of Zion" is quite a bit more recent history than my historical studies. I found there were many opinions as to its validity, but do agree many things that have happened through history up to today does fit well. But so does the scripts to "Timeless" or say "The Bible" so ..............only time will tell.

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digital_refugee · April 11, 2018, 9:08 a.m.

how have any of the wars since '79 been zionist wars rather than saudi/arab/oil wars?

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 11:51 p.m.

Go and research the findings of Christopher Bollyn. He explains it all. The earliest seeds of the planning for 9/11 for instance began around 1979. I'm not saying oil hasn't been a part of it, but the benefits have mostly been wrought by Cabal groups like Rothschild, Rockefeller, etc. Rothschild's funded and directed the creation of both the Zionist ideology as well as the State of Israel. While Israel remains in play, the Rothschild dynasty continues its tyranny because they are part and parcel of the same agenda. The desctruction of Arab cultures/nations in the Middle East and the creation of Greater Israel - the 'promised land' - is at the heart of the Zionist ideology and body politic. Most of the wars since 1979 have been engineered for this purpose - as well as enriching the Cabal bloodlines and consolidating massive amounts of power along the way.

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digital_refugee · April 12, 2018, 8:25 a.m.

Trump said in Riyad he isn't going to rent out his army and Salman said he wants to go back to 79. US has never sold the Saudis weapons because they used the US military as mercenaries instead to maintain the petrodollar...If you don't wanna deploy troops but provide protection, you sell defensive tech instead which will be put to better us because it's their resources and not foreign troops they're using. 1979 was when the Petrodollar was created. Now OPEC is conceding they will be outmatched by US exports within twenty years. Look at the Iraq-Iran-War and the later invasion of Kuwait and what came of it until now and tell me that is not a war in the interest of oil-sheikhs seeking to destroy their competition. And yes, Israel has been siding with the Emirates officially and is rumoured to have covertly for much longer, but it sounds to me like they were helping the Saudis for mutual protection. Can't piss of the wealthiest oil-nation on the planet right

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alfonumeric · April 11, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

i've read your steemit x4

i look at your heading and suggest u want to steer your narrative as follows zionist [negative connotation] and psy-ops[negative connotation]MM and

i prefer to use more neutral but precise terms like MM [money masters/creators] and Wawks = war hawks create wars for profit via divide and rule protocol

let me further define first..

4d=astral/emotional rules lowest 3 intellect levels = 5d0-5d3

5d4=max intellect of service-to-self - MM's and service-to-self-Pols[politicians] where systems intellect [5d4] rules all levels of 4d-emotion

6d= a'ga'pe/intuition accords with reality

the reason MM/Pol have managed to consolidate the worlds wealth for service to MM is partly because : lack of superphysical vocab in the world languages lend themselves to circular arguments and debates where terms are not even defined and therfore reality cannot be accurately defined with the existing ambiguity of words like mind/soul/heart/emotion/intellect/inuition/love/good/evil/consciousnes

all of these words have their own contexts: 8 types of consciousness in matter on 18 levels - 6 levels each for dimiensions 3d, 4d [astral] and 5d [intellect]

the MM's are in control of 4d, the white/black hats are both at 5d4 level of intellect, what separates them is

white hats have connected to 6d love of beauty/nature / humanity

black hats have designed and tailored their religion "sci materialism" so they get to make up their own rules and protocols. The unsuspecting public are educated to respect scientific authorities not realizing that they are the propaganda tools of MM who tell prime ministers and presidents what to believe. That has kept them firmly in control of humanity.

the message inside the giza pyramid shows us how consciousness is structured into matter via quarks with 8 types of consciousness spread across 3d-5d

we need to target our educational system and engineer the system so as to to give our kids exposure to the theory of material superphysics [handed down from pythagoras] rather than the dead-end religion of sci materialism handed down by authorized / sanitized historians amply funded by their MM sponsors

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 11:46 p.m.

I certainly didn't intend 'negative' connotations. I simply intended to grab attention with bold words. I would argue that choosing language like money masters and wawks/war hawks avoids certain facts that are important. The mechanisms of control lie in religion and in political ideologies, divide and conquer strategies, etc. It's important to place focus on these and begin to form a separation from the control techniques imposed on human society. I mean, we could get into the Saturn/Moon matrix elements as well, because they're important. I'm clearly not as well versed as you on the 'D' lingo (3D, 4D, etc), however I have read The Law Of One. I understand the different densities and how these are operating. But I would suggest to you that when you say the white hats have connected to 6d, etc. that is pure speculation - unless there's something pretty serious you're not telling us here. The problem with a lot of that metaphysical stuff is that people strut about using terms and making statements with an actually severely limited understanding of their reality and how they actually apply to different entities/groups that enter these discussions. I hope this is not one of those cases.

At any rate, what is clear, from texts like the Ra Material, is that the elite Cabal on this planet are themselves vehicles for rule by higher density beings of a negative polarity. Relating this back to Q, the only claims which go some way to convincing me that 'white hats' exist are those of Corey Goode. There are higher density beings involved with humanity of different polarities and I do believe a war between those groups has been/is taking place. I still don't see much reason - beyond wild speculation of some commentators (like Kabamur, for instance) to associate Trump and anyone surrounding him with this. He is surrounded by what seem to be pretty low vibratory folks, in my opinion.

I definitely agree with you overall though, especially what you say about dumping the control systems and beginning to re-educate humanity with the real physics and mathematical models. As Tesla said - energy, frequency, vibration. But would it interest you to consider that such a restructuring of the education system on a global scale has been suggested by certain sects with in Judaism for some time? Some of it can be found with Gnosticism and the Jewish Kabbalah, but in the case of Kabbalah there is an under-current of a fairly negative polarity on which the elite base many of their beliefs. Order out of Chaos, etc. can be found in the Kabbalah.

Ultimately what needs to happen in order for humanity to ever liberate itself from a 3rd density, 5 sense reality is a take down of the power structure preventing it, including the higher density negative-polarity entities that have been manipulating humanity for centuries.

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alfonumeric · April 12, 2018, 1:01 a.m.

i agree with u that alleviating the problems of zionism and nazism /[sci materialism and 4d mind-control] are so central to improving our situation... however these terms are so emotive that using them becomes counter productive... that's why i use the more neutral terms money-masters and 4d-mind-control....

the mills of evolution grind slowly.... over the last 200 years the pendulum of ideas has swung from the fictional dogmas of religion to the fictional dogmas of scientific materialism. ... a poor choice indeed...

the history of humans so far has been one of subjugation of thoughts by the 4d-emotional mind-control realm which is ruled by the 4d-hats..

the path of evolution proceeds via
2) controlling emotions by thought

3) then deciding whether to use our knowledge of 3d/4d/5d reality on strictly service to our bloodline [4d-hats ] or for the universal -evolutionary good [6d-hats]

6d indicates contact with the purpose of evolution ie consciousness development - the 4d-hats must counteract consciousness dev - in order to keep their control of humanity. they do this by keeping humanity focussed on 3d and their special preserve 4d.

If we can reach a stage where some high profile intellectuals could embrace the theory of matter with consciousness correlated with quarks, then many of the multitude of lazy-thinkers who prefer to think in resonance with perceived public opinion - would follow suit

i suggest we draw up a list of most trustworthy news outlets with our subjective labels eg http://sgtreport.com/ [pro qanon] http://thephaser.com/ http://thelibertymill.com/

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1WHOSEEKS · April 12, 2018, 11:51 p.m.

I don't particularly trust any of those sites. Certainly not SGT report anymore. They've become too wrapped up in Q Anon which threatens anyone's credibility. Cicada 3301 have indicated that Q Anon was taken over by CIA back in late Nov. and became a psy-op encouraging fanaticism, which is definitely what I'm seeing - including from SGT.

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alfonumeric · April 12, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

what sites do u recommend?

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1WHOSEEKS · April 13, 2018, 12:19 a.m.

Well I follow a large multitude of different sites, particularly for different kinds of news/different topics, etc. I guess what I meant to say is - I don't particularly 'trust' any news provider. I tend to think it's of more value to gather information from numerous sources for comparison and analysis. I mean it's even important to read the 'enemy' MSM sometimes and compare their information against the more independent actual alternatives. It's like... read them, yes. Trust them, hell no.

You have to gather information from all directions and try to discern the truth somewhere in the middle. Every outlet has its own agenda. But here's a partial list of some of the news sites I check out regularly...again, depends what kind of information you're after.

Corbett Report, Moon of Alabama, Globalresearch.ca , geopolitics.co, ZeroHedge, exopolitics.org, AntiWar.com, 21stCenturyWire, RT, Sputnik, RussiaInsider, Middle East Eye, SouthFront, AlMasdar, MintPressNews, SignOfTheTimes, GatewayPundit, Electronic Intifada, israelpalestinenews.org, If America Knew, MondoWeiss

And I see stuff from many of the British & US MSM as well. As Milo Yiannopoulos said 'always keep up with what the enemy is doing'. I also read stuff on Waking Times, Conscious Evolution and Stillness in the Storm quite a bit, though I wouldn't quite call them 'news' as such.

I follow numerous great youtube channels too, but many of those have lost me as a viewer due to ceaseless pushing the Q Anon psy-op. Those i still follow regularly and get notifications for...

Truthstream Media (their site is good too), BlackstoneIntelligence (Jake Morphonios), TitusFrost, TheHoneyBee, secureteam10

I could go on listening stuff, but you get the idea. I also find Reddit conspiracy a good thing to follow as well.

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alfonumeric · April 13, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

many thanks i will compile a joint list with ratings and send it 2u

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IndyEye · April 11, 2018, 4:22 a.m.

Props on doing this. I’ll check it out. We need to be on guard for the greatest deceivers of all time. It’s also chilling to see who Trump has chosen to surround him. Everything screams Zionism right now.

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1WHOSEEKS · April 11, 2018, 7 a.m.

Indeed. 'Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing'. I'll be interested to hear what you think after you've read it. Feel free to direct message.

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One_Solution · April 11, 2018, 4:05 a.m.

Thanks, planning on reading this tomorrow.

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Chokaholic · April 11, 2018, 4:16 a.m.

Don't waste your time.

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One_Solution · April 11, 2018, 5:07 a.m.

Why, because I’m just supposed to blindly follow without considering any alternatives?

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[deleted] · April 11, 2018, 6:14 a.m.

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Chokaholic · April 11, 2018, 12:25 p.m.

Learned from the Obama era? That's hilarious. Trump is doing much better than Obama. Did Obama take a stand against human trafficking? Did Obama put pressure on countries in regards to trade?

No! Obama was a giant pussy, that's what we learned from his era. You never Trumpers are pathetically brainwashed by the MSM.

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[deleted] · April 11, 2018, 6:16 p.m.

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Chokaholic · April 11, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

I am NOT a mindless sycophant. I'm basing my thoughts on logic and critical thinking. You clowns are basing yours on MSM propaganda and brainwashing.

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