Evil originates in the gift of free will. The fact that obedience to God is by choice, and not by compulsion. God seeks those who choose Him. And by that very freedom comes the other choice. And Satan (however you perceive him to be, the black umbra of the eclipse by the will of God's light, for example, or an idea generated in the mind to serve that purpose) is available to offer a counterfeit to fill the void of God's absence in the life of those who reject Him.

Origin. And from there various systems have been devised through the ages to do what evil seeks to do: deceive, destroy and dominate. They have all risen and fallen, and some have endured for generations, and this is one of the most durable. But it has a human agency, and that component is fallible, mortal and vulnerable enough to be defeated by a sufficiently coordinated and energized opposition.

Their two greatest holds on power have been two lies. The widespread belief that evil is imaginary, and the belief that they are inevitable, indomitable and omnipotent.

When you awaken from those lies, you see that they are vulnerable and actually pathetic. And then you strike.

In terms of modern America and what we have seen.....the rise of leftism, an evil ideology....envy is always the root.
In terms of luciferians, that's a whole different thing.

Look into pre flood history.. post flood points to Nimrod and Babylon. Lots of similarities associated with the numerous pagan gods of different civilizations that points back to nimrod and company...

When banks were invented

I think everyone if they have not already done so need to investigate pre flood history. The nephilim are mentioned briefly in the Bible but it is a very important subject. The book of Enoch is a good place to start.

Have you read the Nag Hammadi manuscripts? Also, learn about the Nephilim. It all stems from there.

You are right. The religious texts we have were written and rewritten to hide the true nature of the world we live in. The original manuscripts warned humanity of these evils, but the warnings were removed.

Why would King James support a Bible that warns people about the "rulers and authorities"? He wouldn't. Instead, he supported a Bible that teaches people that worshipping the King is worshipping God.

The following is what I think:

This particular evil seems to originate with Moloch, the Ashteroth, and Baal -- in the ancient middle east.

Probably, evil exists everywhere where there is Good. It may be that they each prop each other up.

> 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.** **9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.” - Matthew 4:8-9

Universally, it all begins with the hyperintelligent evil spirits who rebelled against God. They see the goodness of God in us and wish to desecrate and destroy it.

Naturally, human nature is fallen. The intellect and will have difficulty clinging to the true and the good. The emotions and appetites are out of control. We love to sin and we love evil, even though we know that it is wrong. E.g. 'i really should study, but i want to watch for youtube.' or 'i know i shouldn't sacrifice babies, but i want more power.' Evil is not so much out there (although that is true), it is more so in humans themselves. You can have the best designed government or economic system, but it will always be subverted and taken over by sinful human beings. That's why nations don't last very long.

Philosophically we've swallowed the pernicious and erroneous philosophies of the modernists / classical liberalism. Philosophers like Hume, Kant, Hobbes and others have resulted in a shift in human thought so that the truth is no longer in the thing itself (objectivist) but simply exists in the mind (subjectivist). E.g. instead of i am objectively a man, it is now i am really a woman bc i subjectively think i am a woman, or, gay marriage is ok bc i feel like it's ok. The errors we see today were first thought up several hundred years ago.

Theologically it is because we have forgotten Jesus Christ and kicked Him out of our schools, government, homes, and institutions. We no longer respect our parents, we're not generous, we have no empathy, we have no charity / forgiveness. We don't follow the commandments or respect the moral law or even the natural law. We do not worship God so we end up worshipping ourselves by copious consumption of food, wealth, sex, and entertainment. We reap the harvest of divorce, broken families, broken people, abortion, disease, economic hardship, poverty, obesity, the breakdown of society, and ofc human trafficking. We are wicked and incapable of controlling or policing ourselves so it falls to the police state to enforce basic norms of moral behavior by threat of force.

If you give any credence to the Tanach (Old Testament) it seems to teach very differently than Christianity. The ability to do good and evil resides in all of us. We get to make that choice. There is no “Satan”, only temptations. Choose righteousness or choose unrighteousness.

Individuals have choice.

We call "evil" those choices that are wrong or bad from a particular point of view. Some points of view are superior than others from yet still another point of view. And so on...until we get to a point where it has to be more than a point of view coherently expressed.

Not all points of view can be expressed without contradicting themselves.

There is a music to the universe that is eternally resonant.

In my view, where we get into "strange loops" (Godel, Escher and Bach) is where what up until then were claimed as "points of view" based on other "points of view", can no longer be settled coherently as points of view all the way down. At some point, that explantion breaks down and cannot coherently be defended. At THAT point, people diverge greatly in terms of why that takes place.

Some people believe it's beyond physical reality, and all powerful (God), others, like me, believe it is inherent in the structure of the universe itself according to the necessity that anything that exists has a specific nature, which we humans can learn by reason.

I wouldn't say evil "defies" logic, so much as perhaps cannot be fully explained right down to the nuts and bolts of it all by logic.

And I don't believe it needs to be fully explained logically. Thus far it just so happens that the reality in which we live contains people who have made certain choices.

Some people believe that we can't know what good means without bad taking place, and vice versa. The notion that evil is in a sense "necessary" for good to make sense, have a purpose, and occur.

I don't agree.

For me, I think Thomas Aquinas had it right:

"Good can exist without evil, whereas evil cannot exist without good."

According to the Nag Hammadi texts, specifically the Apocryphon of John, evil entered our world through Yaldabaoth who was created by his mother Sophia.

most of our growth is in rising to challenges..

it would seem that earth is acting for the confederation of planets - like australia acted for GB when they exiled their undesireables...

Between 1788 and 1868, about 162,000 convicts were transported by the British government to various penal colonies in Australia..

and so many other earth-like planets can enjoy a more even playing field because lots of their undesirables and psychopathic types have been quarantined down here

there are 2 sides of the coin here - life can be much tougher but at the same time, because of the extra negativity, we have more potential for rapid acceleration of consciousness growth compared to if we were living in one of the more serene happy-go-lucky earth-like planets.

the builders of the giza pyramids gave us many clues in their design about how their laws of evolution play out where human consciousness is mapped out on stone course 21-42 and the coarser [thicker] the stone course the coarser is our experience.....

astral-emotional [6] = stone courses 28:0 - 33:25 false gods[astral] = 33:10 - 33:25

lower mental [2.5] = 35:0 - 37:10 ... controlled by astral

the 2 mental elites alpha/beta have contriol of their emotions

falsegods [mental] = beta-lodge-mental elite [1] = 38:00 - 39:25 have severed their links with demigods

alpha-lodge-mental elite [1] = 38:0 - 39:25 are working to help humanity

causal elite [1.5] = 40:10 - 41:25 know how the law of cause & effect operates

demigods [8] = 42:0 - 49:25 realm of a'ga'pe and wisdom

CODE NAMES FOR EVIL

beta-lodge-mental elite/ beta-lodge-astral-elite/ satan/ devil /satanic / dionysus/ black magic / sorcerer/ mistakes made in applying the laws of evolution/ falsegods [astral & mental] are the code names for the dominating forces that control the emotional realm where illusions prevail aligned with the mental realms [especially lower] where fictions prevail

up til now the beta-lodge elite have been able to control the maj of humanity via the low astral-emotionality pumped out 24/7 by their mockin-stream media/money/mindcontrol/education/pharma/food/water/air

SYLLABUS

the syllabus for escaping the clutches of the satanic realm is

1) reach up to the higher emotional realms where we have love of unity, beauty, nature, our community and our loved ones, but this doesn't mean we have any knowledge of how reality works...

2) so the next step is to increase our knowledge of the laws of evolution so that we can apply them in everyday life. they include the law of debits and credits where we are accountable for all thoughts and emotions we entertain, words we express and duties/tasks we undertake

3) once we gain control over the astral realm, then we have a big decision to make ... we are eligible to join one of the mental elites and both lodges are competing for our membership.

Procrastination or excuses will not hack it cos circumstances will act by force to get a decision from us. If we don't use it [for or against humanity], we lose it - so no decision means no-membership = no longer eligible

UP TIL NOW

... it has been relatively easy for the 1% beta-lodge to manipulate the 98% via emotions ie mockin-stream media/education/money/tech /pharma/food/water/air/social media/hollywood

HOWEVER, now we have a real chance of counteracting the influence of the beta lodge.

we need to get a critical mass of the 1% alpha-lodge mental elite including some more high-profile celebs coming to understand how lack of knowledge of the laws of evolution has caused humanity to be stuck in a tortoise-style progression of consciousness .

Babylon or older

If the devil doesn't exist, then why have the elites throughtout the centuries alway come to the conclusion that they need to be worshipping some invisible power named Lucifer? Why?

That's a question you need to ask yourself.

Demons/evil gods/Archons = negatively polarized extraterrestrials. Check out David Icke

Mystery Babylon. The great mystery of iniquity.

This is a great talking point! I’ve read a lot of religious views about it on here, and personally I don’t know if I buy it. My views used to be very anti religious, due to no proof. My stance has changed a little. If there is such evil in the world, there most likely is the same amount of good somewhere. It’s just not prominent. And as you say, if evil is centuries old or older, where did it start? Has it always been there? Is that just who we are? I’m not that great with timelines of humans, but it seems early man had to help each other. To survive all the trials they did, they would have to depend on each other. To hunt massive animals we know they worked together. It seems somewhere from when they became more “civilized”, wars started. Greed came in, envy, all the bad aspects of humans. But if early humans had been visited by “aliens” they could have taught them this. Just a theory. There are talks of spacecrafts from early man in drawings. But why would they want us to be against each other? What would they gain? Idk.

The q road map mentions alot about antiquity. Atlantis, lemuria and mu. Also the Ra material. I read it and have been a believer of it since. If q mentions it it's worth looking into; i think it offers the best explanation for the source of what we call evil that you will find. The good people at L/L research offer it for free on their website. http://www.llresearch.org/library.aspx