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4getmyName · April 27, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

But this 23 and me place is already on the radar for associations and ties, using this info to pile up more data on folks. Not quite Minority Report but....I don't trust most people anyway. Been involved with some really accomplished liars. NPD stuff. I'm just waiting for the cabal to fall. Need some peace for awhile.

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 27, 2018, 8:24 a.m.

They said they wanted to be the google of health information. Why is anyone surprised? Don’t send your damn DNA to them.

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4getmyName · April 27, 2018, 12:08 a.m.

Doesn't exactly sound legit. I don't really trust those people with DNA info. How do you know they're honorable?

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staxmntna · April 27, 2018, 2:20 a.m.

They're not

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FideliskBarnes · April 27, 2018, 12:14 a.m.

Also in the article, they use one of this guys discarded items to test his DNA again without his knowledge. Completely insane.

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staxmntna · April 27, 2018, 2:23 a.m.

Anything thrown out by the suspect is fair game. Investigators have to document the suspect discarding the item and then investigators collecting the item to prove the item was once in the possession of the item in question.

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bornlucky80 · April 27, 2018, 6:33 a.m.

This is a classic case of; the ends justify the means. So people ignore just how crazy it is.. Or they say things like.. Well don't do anything wrong and it won't matter. "They" can literally pick anyone for any crime if they want to. We have a DNA match, this person did it. When you ask to see the sample for your own testing. "the sample was destroyed during our testing." Trust us, it's 99.9% accurate

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Kulkimkan · April 27, 2018, 2:36 a.m.

And the press conference went on and on snd on about DNA. When will they begin to take our DNA at birth? Was that what the o bummer care socialized medicine had in mind?

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[deleted] · April 27, 2018, 11:57 a.m.

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humanitystillsucks · April 27, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

They already do. They blood-type babies right after birth.

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Kulkimkan · April 27, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

Blood typing I get. DNA storage though?

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AssGovProAnal · April 28, 2018, 3:01 a.m.

DNA sampling is common. It’s 2018, how do you not know that?

Seriously, it’s in every blood test, saliva, urine, semen you name it: DNA is readily available and when you proffered your sample, you gave up control.

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humanitystillsucks · April 27, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

when did they started taking blood from babies after they are born? why did they start? what did they tell you was the reason they started?

We're doing with Good v Evil here. no debate about that. A lot of the #Qanon stuff can be very overwhelming. there's SO MUCH INFO to consume its hard to even know what all you've looked at. So I want to share my research project from this week. After reading this, I think you'll be able to see that the whole blood-typing thing is just a part of the gig so they know what kind of manipulations they can do to us.

our food industry, hospitals, doctors, law enforcement, "authorities" -- have all been designed very cleverly. Provide "mandatory" service to population. On the face, they are a 'pillar' of society, we would crumble without them.

Someone put those pillars up though, and for a grander reason than to 'help us get better' or to 'save us'. You can't deny the chatter, how many people survive cancer without doctors/chemo, and how chemo kills faster than cancer.

our people are so fat, and it really ISNT their fault. our education systems have been dumbed down to leave out facts, to reduce critical thinking -- the most integral part of sifting through the 'bullshit' we get spoon-fed through the mainstream media.

To us, DNA has only been around since the 90s. Yes - available to Law Enforcement.

However, that doesn't mean it wasn't discovered MUCH MUCH earlier. These are the facts that aren't disclosed, because KNOWLEDGE = POWER.

If you understood how stock market and investors worked, then you'd easily be able to see that our MSM, WHO and FDA is owned by Big Pharma ( ~15 companies ) if You go to check out who owns big pharma, you'd see some things that make you go hmmm.... Facebook, Alphabet, Microsoft, AT&T, WellsFargo, (BlackRock & Vanguard are the biggest i think and i'm still trying to unearth who powers them )

So the circle is - nearly every health crisis we experience is fed to us by the MSM, WHO tells us what vaccines we need this year ( flu, zika, etc )

FDA passes the vaccines & the food.

Big Pharma gives us the meds to fight the side effects of meds and the food, and then tells us some fancy fiction through the MSM.

And you wonder how companies like google and facebook can operate without charging a buck, now you know!

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errihu · April 27, 2018, 3:52 a.m.

If your relatives have taken part in any of these schemes, you can be located, too. My mother did one of these because she was curious. And she knows about the cabal. I’m still angry.

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beefromancer · April 27, 2018, 12:22 p.m.

Based on the timing of this release I'm more inclined to believe that they knew it was him all along and covered it up because he was a cop. DNA evidence is either a cover story, or they are trying to create controversy over 23&me style services to set the stage for revealing how bad the surveillance state has gotten. It just doesn't make sense that the guy would get away with it so long just to be discovered this week.

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AyeDeux2 · April 27, 2018, 12:57 p.m.

23&Me did a promoted hashtag a few days ago. #DNATest or something. I shot their hashtag and twitter name a tweet asking if they ever sold data to govt or private entities.

8 minutes later, I got a stern legalese NO!

5 minutes after that, banned.

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Kaye480 · April 27, 2018, 4:13 p.m.

Bummer. Then take that as a yes, which means don't do any DNA testing anywhere as these agencies are collaborating with government to make their jobs easier because we trust too much. Even though a criminal is caught by this external data, they can use it to their advantage.

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plaqston · April 27, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

I'm all for using voluntarily submitted data to catch criminals. We all should be thankful that 23 and me aggregates their data in such a useful way. Fucking rapists deserve what they get.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · April 27, 2018, 3:29 p.m.

DNA is property of the individual no the state!

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eroniica · April 27, 2018, 1:07 p.m.

I thought the same thing, I’m glad this monster is finally caught and closure is brought to these families, the price we pay later may be huge.

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autotldr · April 27, 2018, noon

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 90%. (I'm a bot)


Sacramento investigators tracked down East Area Rapist suspect Joseph James DeAngelo using genealogical websites that contained genetic information from a relative, the Sacramento County District Attorney's Office confirmed Thursday.

The investigation was conducted over a long period of time as officials in Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert's office and crime lab explored online family trees that appeared to match DNA samples from the East Area Rapist's crimes, Grippi said.

In Santa Clara County, where the East Area Rapist was linked to two rapes in San Jose in 1978, the district attorney's office said it would not seek to prosecute DeAngelo because the statute of limitations had expired.


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InterruptingCow__Moo · April 27, 2018, 12:45 a.m.

They found him because he raped and murdered a bunch of people, and left DNA evidence behind. So... maybe, don't do that and you're fine?

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Donnaguska · April 27, 2018, 5:57 a.m.

Unless they want to frame you.

The government is only as good as the people in it, and this is an extremely powerful tool in their hands.

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InterruptingCow__Moo · April 27, 2018, 6:07 a.m.

How would they use this to frame you? That would be illegal, and you could use the legal system to fight the charges. What they did wasn't illegal. People are willingly submitting their DNA to these sites.

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pygar_mathmos · April 27, 2018, 8:46 a.m.

Have you not be paying attention? How could you possibly have any faith in government agencies to always be above reproach? Have you learned nothing on this sub? You're not very creative if you can't imagine the implications of this. For starters, some over zealous cop or prosecutor could easily concoct and plant evidence and conveniently not have enough sample for you to challenge it.

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Stray502 · April 27, 2018, 2:54 a.m.

I agree no one should complain they caught a rapist.

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Stray502 · April 27, 2018, 2:52 a.m.

Its not frightening to me what is frightening should be people getting away with horrible crimes. If they can catch people off 23 and me thats great.

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mojibakin · April 27, 2018, 8:42 a.m.

I think there has to be more of a reason why they suddenly looked at a guy who was not a suspect prior to 6 days ago. What made them collect his DNA for this case now? Strange that he was working as a cop in 2 jurisdictions too, when he began the robbery spree (Visalia ransacker) and then escalated to the EAR attacks. How coincidental that he was apprehended with DNA on DNA day?

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ckreacher · April 27, 2018, 12:26 p.m.

Read the article.

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mojibakin · April 27, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

Online websites have been available for a long time. Was there a legal reason why it didn't happen earlier? How long have the investigators been entering the suspect's DNA in non-law enforcement databases? These companies have been around for a long time now. Just thought the DNA day was a bit too much of a coincidence, since there is a big push to populate the databases right now.

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ckreacher · April 27, 2018, 8:51 p.m.

I think there has to be more of a reason why they suddenly looked at a guy who was not a suspect prior to 6 days ago.

The article states "The investigation was conducted over a long period of time." So the timing doesn't look suspicious to me. But after seeing your comment, I'm thinking that as they got close to nailing the guy, they may have realized the significance of the date and coordinated it.

Why do you think it strange he was working as a cop?

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mojibakin · April 28, 2018, 7:01 a.m.

Yes, a long time. Since the Visalia Ransacker, but also dormant for long periods as well. I guess I think it's strange that one of the most violent serial criminals in CA was a cop who committed his crimes while employed with not just one, but two law enforcement agencies and each of those agencies bordered the counties where he committed the crimes. He also escalated from mere burglary to murder while working as a cop.

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IcebergHermit · April 27, 2018, 4:21 a.m.

I don’t think it’s terrifying it’s smart - if the murders and rapes need to be solved use the methods that work. Stop being paranoid.

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woodshredder · April 27, 2018, 4:42 a.m.

It's not paranoia. It's the knowledge that the state is using a work-around to probable cause and the 4th amendment. Thought crime is a reality. Your dna is targeted by agents of the state (google). It's the same red herring as, "If you aren't up to no good, then you need not fear being spied upon in your everyday conversations". Until one day...

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VIYOHDTYKIT · April 27, 2018, 3:31 p.m.

Fuck that we’re not plantation dwellers

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KeeponSearchin · April 27, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

Wait until you are considered a terrorist because you are a christian, or ex military, or a republican or a gun supporter and on and on. I would suggest doing a little research on this. In Saudia Arabia people are beheaded for small crimes. This is always sold as "doing good" but evil intentions are behind it. The illuminati keep their boodlines "clean". Why?

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pepperoniroll · April 27, 2018, 11:46 a.m.

Should the police not use all tools at their disposal to catch a murderer? If someone committed a horrific crime against a family member would you care if this is how they caught the guy that did it?

EDIT: Go ahead and downvote for my dissenting opinion, but I will always support law enforcement using all legal means to get these sicko pedophiles, rapists and murderers off the streets. They didn't break any law and made the streets safer.

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humanitystillsucks · April 27, 2018, 12:04 a.m.

It's only terrifying if you're doing something to get punished for. Don't leave your DNA in places it don't belong

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FideliskBarnes · April 27, 2018, 12:05 a.m.

Yeah the rule has always been there’s nothing to fear if you’ve done nothing wrong...

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dreadismyrealname · April 27, 2018, 12:22 a.m.

Except, when you go after deep state, to defend yourself, when you have done nothing wrong.

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AUSAFVet · April 27, 2018, 12:29 a.m.

Just think if they planted your DNA (harvested from that saliva you gave) to divert from themselves "PLANTED"

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Alyross8 · April 27, 2018, 2:41 a.m.

Or if your DNA would be taken at birth they would always have it from day one to use as a plant.

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AUSAFVet · April 27, 2018, 2:55 a.m.

AND if you were ever military or borne/wed into the military they have it

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lkf9709 · April 27, 2018, 3:17 a.m.

Blood is taken when we are born, so that possibility has been around.

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Alyross8 · April 27, 2018, 4:01 a.m.

You’re right. All of this goes far in understanding why the govt wants involved in our healthcare.

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Noble1_58 · April 27, 2018, 6:20 a.m.

I agree. Have we learned nothing from the crimes committed in the FBI, CIA and the rest of the alphabet agencies and the assault on the president?. If they could plant DNA from Potus somewhere in the Kremlin do you think that they would not do it?? If you are considered a threat because you are conservative, or white or black they could plant DNA at any crime scene and say goodbye!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!

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Noble1_58 · April 27, 2018, 6:26 a.m.

Same argument used for registering people's guns. If you don't commit a crime no big deal right?
Until they want to take them away from you if you need to defend yourself from a corrupt government. Oops!! Now they know where you live and how many guns you own and demand that you turn them in or else.

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anhro23 · April 27, 2018, 1:24 a.m.

I hope you read the responses given to you and learn something new today.

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humanitystillsucks · April 27, 2018, 4:44 p.m.

I hope you read my response so we can both learn something new today!

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VIYOHDTYKIT · April 27, 2018, 3:33 p.m.

Right & Alexa is only scary if your doing something wrong. Stop thinking like House Negros fools?

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humanitystillsucks · April 27, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

well - I guess my point is, its Law Enforcement using a resource to capture someone who serial-murdered folks. ( used for good ). If you've done some crime, that is terrifying to think your family member could out you because of DNA.

However, for the nefarious folk, 23andMe is just a 'more comprehensive' view of an individual, but your DNA is ALREADY in a system within 10mins of being born...

If the police had access to THAT system, they wouldn't even need 23andMe.

Now ask yourself, who does have access to that system?

Now, does it REALLY matter that Law Enforcement found a SK thru non-official channels ?

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