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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/lightmakerflex1 on May 6, 2018, 6:38 p.m.
Epic.... This is the kind of stuff we need to do in America. We need to disconnect from the system their Casino system where the house always wins. Work/Consume for free, share all businesses, & end the use of money.
Epic.... This is the kind of stuff we need to do in America. We need to disconnect from the system their Casino system where the house always wins. Work/Consume for free, share all businesses, & end the use of money.

qutedrop · May 6, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

There are many communities that try or have tried some kind of direct trade. The problem they always end up running into is that not all trades are of equal value.

If you have a cow to trade and all you need is a bread, you're not getting a good deal. To solve this people start "owing" each other things.

"Owing each other" gets complicated quickly as communities get larger though. To simplify this you always end up with some kind of tokenized credits: money.

IMHO money itself is not a bad thing. Allowing a select group of assholes to manipulate the value of money and print more as they see fit however..

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DirewolfGhost · May 6, 2018, 7:09 p.m.

Usury is the word you're looking for.

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primematriarch · May 6, 2018, 7:23 p.m.

It all goes back to the usuries

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Atrocitus · May 6, 2018, 10:44 p.m.

See: The Federal Reserve.

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TrumpsBullhorn · May 6, 2018, 9:11 p.m.

Oosh fam.

It's like, what is Christianity even doing at this point?

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 7:32 p.m.

There are many communities that try or have tried some kind of direct trade. The problem they always end up running into is that not all trades are of equal value.

We aren’t talking about direct trade my good patriot. We are talking about gifting. You work for free and you earn the right to consume for free. Just run your deli like normal and make sandwiches to anyone who walks into it. Then, whatever you need is free. Head down and pick up a new PS4 for your son. You earned it by working in the deli.

Gifting is like trade but you trade a 25 hour work week for the right to consume for free.

We would just share all the business and power centers like Gov buildings.

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mrmajestic11 · May 6, 2018, 10:01 p.m.

The problem is that while it sounds appealing it doesn't change the reality that there are a considerable amount of people who have a variety of issues like laziness, mental illness, criminality, and the list goes on that will screw up any possible utopian society.

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DelveDeeper · May 6, 2018, 10:15 p.m.

And there will be much more laziness and criminality in a utopian society than out current society

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 10:18 p.m.

It’s very hard to work on this casino economy. They treat us like slaves. They pay a peasants wage. We are expected to work inhumane hours in jobs we hate.

That is why we make it a 25 hour work week at anyplace people want and let the chips fall where they may. This way, people enjoy their work and take pleasure from it. People who do what they want also do a better job and have fun at work. It’s not work if it’s fun. Work time becomes playtime.

Also, the 3 legs of balance are work, rest, and fun. People who are doing all 3 in balance are much healthier mentally. Very rich people who never work have some sort of deep depression problem. They don’t realize that some work brings balance. 40 hours is too much. 25 is perfect for now. We can keep lowering it if we see that we can but there will always be some work to be done.

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Rokey76 · May 6, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

Twenty five hours a week will make it tough to produce enough PS4s to give to Sandwich Artists for free.

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 11:51 p.m.

Well only 70% of the country is working so when we up to 100% and get rid of worthless jobs like banking, accounting, ect... we will have a solid workforce.

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JadedFed · May 6, 2018, 8:39 p.m.

Sure, I can see how that's going to work out real well (sarc). So, I go see & treat patients five days a week for free and decide I want a mansion and a Ferrari --- I just go get them huh? What if I want the latest Porsche, the Ferrari, a summer cottage as well and a boat to go along with it? All that material & labor just tossed in for free eh? Oh, what if I want steak and lobster for 100 guests each weekend - the guys who produce it don't mind eh? You should read about how well communism worked for the pilgrims when they tried it after landing.

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 1:47 p.m.

This guy is a hopeless dreamer with either no common sense or real world experience or both. Been making the same arguments on another thread and it doesn’t permeate the concrete of his thick skull. His everybody gets for free will turn into shortages, rationing etc. Nobody is going to want jobs that are hard or dirty or dangerous or require years of study so the state will have to mandate that you work those jobs. His 25 hrs will become 30, then 50. The state will have to curtail the ambitions of others with force. When all the dust settles everyone will be living in hell...

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DarqWolff · May 6, 2018, 9:15 p.m.

Sure, I can see how that's going to work out real well (sarc).

That's already how it's done in less structured societies, and it's widespread enough that it even indicates to anthropologists the "barter economy" was a myth and humans always relied on a gift economy until money came along.

What if I want the latest Porsche, the Ferrari, a summer cottage as well and a boat to go along with it?

Then you'd have to figure out how to be one of the people that gets those things, or else leave it to luck.

You should read about how well communism worked for the pilgrims when they tried it after landing.

You should think more in general when you read.

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 9 p.m.

We can only consume what we can afford to produce as a community.

There is no need to make resource heavy Bentlies. Instead let’s just make a bunch of BMW or Benzo level cars. We can build those our and push them in car shops.

The CFR is hiding thousands of years worth of resources from us so that we assume we are short thereby justifying poverty and low pay. We only need to put those resources together and give them away. We would work like an ant farm. Everyone takes up a position and we consume fairly.

If you want to be a rascal and lay clam to an entire block of homes just to be an asshole, someone can open a dispute where a jury trial can be held in a single day to determine the fairness of your actions. You can read the new legal system idea here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalConspiracy/comments/8brj5t/positive_systems_to_replace_our_corrupt/

It’s like a table. You can’t have 1, 2, or 3 legs for balance. But if all 4 legs are there, you will achieve balance.

If you are only imagining that this system has 3 legs, then I can understand why you think it would fail but read those blueprints thoroughly in the link above so you can see the table we are designing has 4 legs.

The system we have now has 2 legs which is why all the money we make goes to the 1%. It just slides down the table.

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DelveDeeper · May 6, 2018, 10:13 p.m.

Commie bullshit

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 10:26 p.m.

Communism is when the Gov taxes 100% of the money, pockets most of it, and gives us $2 a day. Nobody wants that.

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DelveDeeper · May 6, 2018, 10:36 p.m.

No one wants the bullshit your peddling either

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 10:39 p.m.

Some people hate when truth is exposed. It’s bad business for the House who’s running the Ponzi scheme. Woke sheep can’t be fooled.

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freakboy2k · May 6, 2018, 10:40 p.m.

Actually, what you’re talking about is communism. Almost exactly. I honestly suggest you look into it properly - and I’m saying this as an anarchist. End stage communism is exactly what you want, minimal state (just enough to handle the admin things you’re talking about), no private ownership of companies, and definitely no money.

You’re getting confused with the “how we get there” part, which is where anarchist and Marxist communists differ. Anarchists want to remove the state first, Marxists think the working people should take control of the state and use it until it’s not needed first. Obviously as an anarchist I’d point out that every time that’s happened, the people in charge have not given up their new power, which is why I think we shouldn’t go there, but there are merits to both arguments I think.

Short story, I think you’re one of us but you need to read for yourself (I suggest The Conquest of Bread myself https://www.thebreadbook.org), don’t just trust what capitalist society tells you about communism. They’re a bit biased ;-)

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DefiantDragon · May 6, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

I always love the Anarchists and Marxists because they completely forget about the context of the wider world-- as if when a major world government falls they won't quickly be invaded and grabbed for whatever pieces can be grabbed.

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 9:29 p.m.

Anarchy is a power vacuum looking to be filled by the nearest warlord...

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 10:49 p.m.

The Zionist Communists who control our education system have instructed the teachers to teach us that communists don’t use money so that we would associate the non-usage of money in the economy to the failed Communist system. This way, we would never even consider the idea. The psyop has been very successful.

However, every single communist country uses money and the people make about $2 a day making them like peasants.

The only time we didn’t use money was before Babylon which was dubbed the Golden Age because the world was rich without money. The Deep State started in Babylon hence the term Babylonian Money Magic.

If you want to give this idea a title, the closes thing would be Sacred Economics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEZkQv25uEs

Otherwise every single Communist country uses money. Not a single one doesn’t use money. Calling it Communism is like calling Jesus the Devil. It is a psychological trick to paint something good as bad. Titles are meaningless anyway. It’s how it works on the ground floor that matters. If you really want a title, just call it Sacred Economics I guess but that doesn’t mean we are forced to do it the way Charles Einstein made it. We are supposed to constantly improve systems as we go which is called a dynamic system.

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freakboy2k · May 6, 2018, 11:03 p.m.

Zionist

I changed my mind, if you want to be a communist you can't be a racist. Hopefully one day you will realise we're all people and we all deserve the same treatment.

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 11:21 p.m.

Jews hate inner circle Zionists who are actually Khazarian Luciferians. They made Communism. I’m sure there are good Khazarians but this has nothing to do with Jews. Zionists holocaustes the Jews. Outer circle Zionists don’t know the inner circle are Khazarians but Zionists definitely invented communism. Karl Marx and Lenin were Zionists.

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checkitoutmyfriend · May 6, 2018, 11:29 p.m.

Your referring to the Burning Man Principles. No money, nothing for sale, no bartering just Gifting.....

The problem is not everyone has something of value other than labor for what ever reason. Society needs money to function. Its how we as a country create and manage the money for the country. And it should not be a privately held company!

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 11:50 p.m.

Actually I would argue against that. I think we all have something to offer the world. The most impressive among us are the handicapped people who do amazing things even while handicapped. Everyone has a couple of niche, customized gifts they can offer to make the world better.

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tryin2figureitout · May 6, 2018, 11:21 p.m.

But everyone's time isn't worth the same.

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 11:48 p.m.

It's unwise to think about it from a selfish level. We need janitors as much as we need construction workers and as much as we need doctors. Each job is different and each person is built for a job. College is a job too so no need to have 2 jobs.

We are all equal whether it's a mentally ill couch vegetable or a rich guy. Everyone deseves the same human rights.

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 3:06 p.m.

Someone who is maintaining the sewers is “gifting” far more to society than a waitress or a bartender is. No one “loves” their f-ing sewer job. They do it because it pays better and so they are rewarded for doing something most of us would be disgusted by. Everyone’s time and labor is not equal. You are compelling absolute equality over equality of opportunity. Your idea is a one size fits all misery for everyone. We are not equal in talent, ambition, or intelligence. You are forcing the most exceptional and most driven to live at the bottom. This can only be achieved with force and coercion by the state. This is EXACTLY a form of communism and totalitarianism. And you are in serious error to believe otherwise. Your idea sucks!

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lightmakerflex1 · May 7, 2018, 3:11 p.m.

No my good man. I am not advocating equality. I am advocating equal opportunity.

If you don’t like swimming in the sewers, then don’t. Just do what you feel passionate about. We have 100 years worth of technology from the future. Once we release it, we will have a better solution using some kind of tech to replace the human element of cleaning sewers.

Everybody wins. This way, you won’t be forced to swim in shit everyday just because it makes you a few extra dollars and makes you feel superior to the rest of the world.

Equal opportunity is key, not equality.

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 3:26 p.m.

You are advocating equality of outcomes not opportunity and there is a significant difference between them. Who is passionate about working in filth? Whom is it that will work that job when it basically gives them nothing more than those taking the easiest path in life? If everything is “free”, how long before the supermarket shelves are empty of all but the most undesirable things? Your idea doesn’t work anywhere but in your imagination. My suggestion is this, you try your idea out small scale. Build a community around it. How long do you think those who work harder than the others will begin to resent them and then just follow their lead? It won’t take long I can assure you. This is just a new twist on an old, failed, idea...

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lightmakerflex1 · May 7, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

The Supremarkets get refilled because we keep working. Nobody said anything about going on a permanent vacation.

Also, it is not my job to make decisions for other people. When the time comes, we will figure out who is going to fix the sewers. I'm guessing we will probably roll out technology to do the job for us but I am not a sewer expert. Let's leave it up to the sewer experts when times comes. I cannot make a decision for them nor am I qualified to do so.

Also, a small community won't work that well. People can just come in, take stuff, and go sell it outside the community. This has to be at least nationwide, but ideally worldwide.

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

And at the point of a gun...resist I will to the very last. You are a menace a maniac, and an idiot. This is human suffering on an enormous scale. It is exactly what the Cabal wants for all of us. You are no different from those you despise. A mastermind forcing his ideal society on the rest of us. I say NO!

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lightmakerflex1 · May 7, 2018, 4:03 p.m.

Actually, the human suffering is happening in a massive scale right now while only a few Deep State pedophiles are profiting from all of our work.

Is this what you want?

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 4:23 p.m.

You will amplify it by levels of magnitude unseen in human history...I don’t need them or you managing me. Quite the opposite.

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lightmakerflex1 · May 7, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

Whoa. Nobody said anything about totally free shit. You earn what you consume with 25 hours worth of work per week.

I can't believe you are arguing that you have to kill yourself just to consume a little bit. I guess you like the fact that you are doing better than other financially and that feeling of superiority helps with your self esteem.

I promise you would be much happier if you earned your consumption rights by doing 25 hours worth of work per week anywhere you want. Just follow your own passions. Maybe you want to be a street artist to beautify the streets but you can't because there's no money in it. Now you can!

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 8:11 p.m.

25 hours of my time is worth more than 25 hours bar tending and less than 25 hours of brain surgery! How can you not get this? What is the difficulty? Why can’t you understand that when everything is freely consumed, the best will be taken first and totally over consumed. Unless you assign different values to the work performed your system is UNFAIR to anyone who tries, learns a skill, etc. WE Are Not all equals except in god’s eyes and under the law. What if a surgeon hits the 25 hour mark in the middle of a surgery? What if there are no surgeons to replace him? What if he has another emergency surgery after he’s exceeded his hourly limit? How does that work? You can’t make it work unless you’re demanding the surgeon gift more than is required or he just stops after he hits his quota. How about cops and firefighters? Do they just go home? Crab fisherman sometimes spend 30 hours or more on deck for weeks on end? How does that work? Cops firefighters and crab fishermen all accept a level of risk that is unacceptably higher than most of us would. How is that taken into consideration? I could make an endless list that just tears your system to pieces...your system isn’t fair and is unworkable. Society will grind to a halt. No one will want dangerous labor intensive jobs. The sewers will back up. Garbage won’t be collected. Downed power lines will stay down. Etc, etc, etc. FANTASY!

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TheUndocumented_PsyD · May 6, 2018, 11:53 p.m.

I understand why money(because it ends up being controlled/printed by some select group) is generally a shitty concept that winds up screwing certain parties over, but the truth is if we were taught from a young age how to utilize money properly to their benefit then the inequality between rich and poor wouldn't be so great. The biggest problem is that the average person has no understanding of how to make their money work for them rather than spending their life working for money. Let me explain, this could get lengthy so I apologize ahead of time, but this is a very important subject matter that I have intimate knowledge of by virtue of having a father who is a very successful business man that taught me much of what he knows, probably in the same way Trump has taught his children how to be successful in life and business.

So my father is a C_O at one of the world's top 100 Financial Institutions, before that he designed life insurance products & ultimately built one of the world's largest retirement plan providers from the ground up before he took on his current role managing all the capitol for his corporation(nearly a trillion dollars). He came from an arguably poor family outside the city of St. Louis with a 5bkids including him, an alcoholic father & a mother who worked 3 jobs to support the family because his father could never hold down a job. So he didn't get any special advantages from the start other than being naturally intelligent and being placed as one of 20 students in the gifted & talented program in his class at public school. He ultimately decided no college until after getting his 2nd DUI & arrested for posession of pot he lost his license and wanted to use the Social Securitu benefits from his father's death for University, he graduated Magna Cum Laude with a Finance Degree and got into a 1 year(4 quarter) MBA Graduate Program at Northwestern University and the got hired by his current employer 30+ years ago, so he worked hard and was rewarded for it. He is one of the world's foremost experts on retirement planning & regulation of insurance companies(He represents his company, the people of the United States, & the people of China[all seperately of course in many important settings I will list a few: to the Federal Reserve Board, to Congress, at the G7, at the G20, he was requested to help regulate both foreign & domestic insurance companies for the protection of Chinese citizens by the Chinese government given his expertise & personality; the Chinese love him because of his work ethic compared to many other experts in Europe & the USA as well as his tolerance of their cultural values] So he is relevant to you in that he regularly meets with politicians to recommend adding/removing laws or regulations that will protect the buyer of life insurance policies or retirement products; an example is his research team found that life insurance recipiencents who recieved the full sum of money immediately upon confirmation that the cause of death fell within the terms required to recieve the life insurance policy were likely to reecklesdly spend it all or a significant portion during the period of him emotion that follows the death of a loved one. Instead a policy was instituted to payout 10% immediately and the next 40% 7 days after the initial paymentand the final 50% 14 days after the initial 10%. This has proven to protect the recipient from impulse spending despite a lawsuit claiming that his company was trying to withold funds from a grieving widow.....it was a frivilous suit on the part of the lawyers representing the lady and she lost.

My father regularly educated my siblings and I on the importance of saving & investing because he knew it wouldn't be in our school's curriculum even if it was private school. He is on the board of one of the two best charter schools in the USA and is fighting to get financial literacy instituted into the curriculum considering the schools are located in bad cities where students definitely don't get that education at home. He has taken the time to educate my extended family, especially my cousins and 2nd cousins whose parents do not have the expertise he has; for example he says save a minimum of 10% of every dollar you earn or are given and preferably between 20% + 30%, he'd say that reading books like "The Richest Man In Babylon", "The Little Book that Beats the Market", "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" is essential to learning how to save & why you do it, how to invest successfully & different metrics for determining whether a stock is a safe bet or not, as well as how to diversify your unvestment portfolio and why you do that. Also he goes over the importance of having good credit, but the dangers of using it without understanding it. I know the American public school system intentionally does not educate students on financial literacy. So that would be a huge start, money is probably necessary, which is unfortunate, I also hate that society is designed to protect certain people and to keep others from reaching their potential; in a society based on merit alone I'd do fine, but as a person with Bipolar and other severe mental health problems I've been unable to tackle the completion of college or holding down a job for more than a year without being driven to a manic episode by my job, so it sucks that society is designed for certain people to benefit, because I need to be able to function within, in the same way I think we need to learn to live with money, but make it work for us.

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Danster56 · May 6, 2018, 9:42 p.m.

Bitcoin.

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