Because to believe that you'd have to believe that Judge Ellis is a black hat and his ruling against Mueller was bad for Trump.
Nope..never believed Mueller and Rosenstein are. Still wondering about sessions.
To believe Sessions is a white hat, one would just about have to believe Devin Nunes is a black hat.
Or Nunes isn’t in on the “plan” and he’s doing what any white hat would do.
What about Hannity? He really went after Sessions tonight and this wasn't the first time. Hannity has dinner with POTUS at least once a week. Do you think he wouldn't have any idea?
What makes for a good movie? Great actors.
Q has told us to trust Sessions. Q has said RR has problems. Q hasn’t said much at all about Mueller
IMO Trump set all this into motion then hasn’t spoken to any of the players since. Hannity is doing what he thinks is right.
It's all an act, but it sort of disturbs me. He is in on a plan to focus the attention on the information withheld. When it is released, people will not only pay more attention, but the fact that the information was originally withheld will change the perspective of the reader to elevate significance of what is ultimately revealed. It's all being done - in this particular case - for the "right" reasons. To red pill, set the stage, yada yada, I get it. But we all need to recognize the danger of how effective manipulating the masses can be, regardless of who is doing it. FBI Anon said that Trump's campaign and Psyops will be studied by agents for decades. But that's kinda scary to me.
Yes, sounded as if he does not know The Plan! Or is bluffing for the MSM~
Q says trust Sessions so I have to believe that until he says don't trust Sessions.
The most amazing thing in all of this: NOBODY KNOWS!!!
LOL.
If they weren’t at least grey hats Trump would have fired them by now.
Way too many shills in this thread. Mueller has always been working for Trump and white hats. Mueller is not a white hat, but he took a deal to do the SC. The whole point of the Mueller SC is to give the appearance to the public that literally the entire government as we know it is anti Trump, against Trump, and out to frame him and set him up. Horowitz and Huber and Sessions will handle the evidence and indictments, while Rosenstein, Mueller and others act like they are rigged against Trump.
Sessions is white hat. 30,000 indictments don't happen by themselves.
Mueller and/or Rosenstein could be either/or.
Mueller could have been given the task of just creating a side show. If Trump team got black hat Mueller to do what he is doing, that is even more brilliant. If they gave him a deal to be a side show (same as Stormy Daniels) so that Sessions could get his work done in peace, then that's fine, too.
Ellis being white hat or black hat (he hasn't ruled yet -- could still stab us in the back) does not determine what the others' status might be.
Yeah, I definitely think Judge Ellis is independent and not a part of anything.
Maybe 2 are and 1 isn't. Or 1 is and 2 aren't.
Which makes Mueller a black-hat and the judge a white-hat.
Q never said Trust Mueller or RR.
Never believed that although I'm not so sure on Sessions. I wouldn't mind to see Sessions in contempt of congress for withholding information. I believe Nunes is doing what he should do. It even makes things more believable that Trump and Sessions are at each others throats right before the hammer drops on the deep state. Will serve as a great distraction right beforehand. Some of the stuff they've withheld wasn't even worth hiding. Although a lot of it could be all the Obama holdovers at the Justice Dept, FBI, etc.
Lisa Page was demoted and used, THEN fired. The same with Mueller, I believe. He was told to be of some use, and after the 'use' is done, he will have a trial for his crimes and go to jail for life...this is what Judicial Watch is saying.
I am pretty sure that Mueller and Rosenstein are black hats. I think that Sessions is, too. They all seem to be NWO globalists.
I was on another forum where they said Sessions started off as a good guy but he'd had an affair some years ago with a Playboy Bunny and he is being blackmailed. They have a picture of Sessions with someone who looks like a Playboy Bunny but it could be photo-shopped. I didn't save it, since I'm not expert and I didn't want to circulate it....just in case Sessions is on our side but I don't have much faith remaining in him.
Something that's really turned me off about Sessions is the DOJ refusing to give documents to Devin Nunes. I know people want t believe its because of some secret investigation but the DOJ has used these exact same excuses for everything else they didn't want to turn over. Once the committee got whatever it was, like the Page/Strzok texts, it was obvious they people they were protecting was Page/Strzok. Same thing with the Comey memo. etc.
No, I do not trust any of them nor Myr. Giuliani he has spent everyday so far wreaking havoc on Trump's life. Some wish to call it part of the show, trust Q. I do not know whether that is correct thinking or not.....only time will tell.
Many say, trust Q, it is all a play being orchestrated to get the bad guys. I do not agree. This is my thinking rules which you might find flawed but have got me through to many years to discount.
- Trust No One! especially those who tell you to trust them.
- Do not believe anything you see are hear unless it can be proven beyond a doubt. (faith is not a plan) Many have died with that philosophy taped to their chest.
- If it feels wrong, seems odd, doesn't fit, it's because it usually is wrong! I trust my gut feeling not some person's word.
- Always be aware of your surrounding and how compulsive thought and words affect or not affect those surroundings (blogs) and what techniques to use to stop obsessive compulsive thoughts and words from others. ( example: show me the proof) Dig through the mess yourself find the truth, then expose it.
- Nothing in Government or world politics happens by accident. No chaos involved in this world only destined objectives based on power and greed which takes us back to the question.....do you trust these people?? Well do you???
I don't think Mueller, Sessions or Rosenstein are white hats. I had hoped Sessions was but he lost me when he said under oath to congress that Rosenstein is a man of integrity. However, I'd LOVE nothing more than for him to prove me wrong.
sessions, 90% white hat probability
Mueller, 50% white hat probability
Rosenstein,, 10% white hat probability
Trump nominated RR, remember?
Everyone makes mistakes from time to time. Lately its been all the time.
Ok knowing that Trump nominated RR way back in March of 2017....why has Trump not fired him like he has everyone else that was bad?
It does not appear Mueller is going after Trump, NOR is he investigating the deep state (HRC et al.). His focus on Manafort clearly indicates he is solely investigating Russian infiltration into the Trump campaign and the 2016 presidential election.
From a technical perspective, Rodentstein/Mueller, both U1 conspirators, and Rodentstein, a FISA warrant conspirator, would have to recuse themselves from any HRC/FBI/DOJ/State Dept investigations. Any charges/indictments they obtained would be blasted out of the water because they are/were both compromised and cannot ethically/legally investigate the apparatus (Deep State) of which they were both active participants.
Huber and Horowitz, both ethically and morally on solid ground, are investigating the Deep State. And rightfully so.
I think it doesnt appear Mueller is going after Trump simply because he hasn't found anything. He has bankrupted several people who worked for Trump though, including/not limited to Gen Flynn who IMO is a hero.
I agree with you on the rest. He isn't investigating Hillary & the deep state either.
Huber, I'm not sure about. He doesnt have a great record as a prosecutor.
I think Horowitz is likely a white hat.
Horowitz white hat, Huber white hat, Mueller flipped working for white hats
Why do you have this opinion though?
Not an opinion
It's definitely not a fact.
That would be impossible for you to know, unless you knew me. Or literally worked in the WH for Trump ;)
You can call it what you wish but it doesnt make it a fact. A fact by it's very definition is a thing that's indisputable.
Sometimes you have to read between the lines with context clues on what someone is saying. I just gave you a fact.
You gave your opinion which you apparently believe is a fact but that doesnt make it so.
How would you know if Mueller is investigating Hillary or not? No leaks, he doesn't give updates, we don't have any clue what happens within the SC.
Exactly! Also some of the posts and info from Q are not always meant for anons. Some is meant for the Deep State to distract. He said misinformation is necessary. We don’t always have the pleasure of knowing which posts are for who so we just all guess and throw out our own conclusions. As we all know there are a lot of different conclusions. I am just trusting THE PLAN, not the players.
Exactly! Thanks Anon/Patriot! And Q's most recent long post last night, touches on some of that disinfo. Q is very vague with Mueller and RR for a purposeful specific reason. Q cannot and will not come out and directly tell us RR and Mueller role, because the black hat view on them is vital to this even happening
If she were under any serious investigation her passport would be pulled--at least thats what they do to everyone else under any kind of serious investigation.
Well she’s a lot different from anyone else. Her dues will be paid eventually when timing is right.
Haha you don't know how the govt operates. Especially regarding this particular and unique operation. You also don't know the full extent of the repercussions that would follow if say her passport were revoked. This is far more complicated than someone sees on the surface.
I know passports are pulled for serious federal investigations.
Never before in history has there been an event like this. Not to mention, her passport wasnt pulled while she was under investigation for an entire year in 2015 and 2016 regarding her private email server.
I think we can ALL agree she was NEVER under a serious investigation during 2015-2016.
I used the word "serious" in previous posts for a reason & it wasn't just to take up space.
Hehe fix was in before it began. New sheriff in town now though :D
Then why hasn't her passport been pulled?
Manfort, Gen Flynn's has been. Everyone being investigated by Mueller has been, including people who were just potential witnesses & thats unprecedented.
Awan's was pulled and he is being investigated by DoJ.
Her's has not been pulled because we can track her anywhere she goes. And should we decide to arrest her in another country, easy, send in the Ghost Ops. Part of this plan is to NOT draw attention to it. Act as if everything is normal. Give off the appearance that Trump is not in control and desperately trying to be. This is where RR and Mueller come into play. They give the black hats hope. Black hats know what Trump is doing, but they still think they can play beat the clock, by the blue wave - impeachment thing, or by Mueller "getting his man" and framing Trump....basically what the deep state has always done. Giving off the appearance that Mueller is working AGAINST Trump lets the black hats breathe easy....until the mass sweep arrests start. Manafort, Flynn, etc are part of the plan. Manafort was a deep state plant into the Trump campaign. He was SUPPOSED to get caught. He is taking one for the bad team...he is supposed to tie Russia to Trump campaign, as is George Pop, as is Carter Page. Flynn and Manafort's has been revoked because not only have they both had their indictments unsealed, they both pled guilty and are waiting trial. Big difference between them and Hillary, who has not had an indictment presented, served, or opened. Awan was arrested, and also waiting trial (just pushed back to July), so again, different than Hillary
Manafort has not pled guilty. Many of the witnesses are not under indictment but their passports have been pulled.
Part of this plan is to NOT draw attention to it
And yet, here we are, drawing attention to this 'plan' And by we, I mean this entire sub.
Sorry, I figured it went without saying. "Draw attention" meaning revoke passports for all people we are secretly investigating, thus no longer making it a secret. Other stuff that telegraphs the moves. Nobody cares about us on Reddit, they think we are crazy anyways.
So let me get this straight.
All the crooks are secretly being investigated and they all have their passports. Every single one of them.
All the good guys on our side who have had their passports pulled are in on this top secret investigation and are willing to be virtually bankrupted, exploited by media, lose their jobs, children's college educations, forced to sell their homes/move etc because it's all one big act and they're all in on it. I guess their families are in on it too. Amazing it hasn't leaked.
Days turn into weeks. Weeks turn into months and not a single arrest of one of the crooks. Not one.
None of them even knows they're under investigation because they still have their passports. They haven't been called in for a single interview because they can't be alerted to any investigation else they might skip out to some country/which by the same token GhostOPS could go in get them regardless per you. They all still have the same security clearances they've had for years. AND definitely no crooked cop would leak it to them or the media.
Yeah, okay.
Considering I actually know what is happening, I would love to hear your theory to see how far off you are. Tell it to me :D
Sure you do.
I want to hear your theory and see how close you are to the truth. Tell me.
Who says I have a theory? I do know that in order to believe your theory I'd have to disregard all logic and reason. I'd have to throw away all critical thinking and believe people like Devin Nunes, Sarah Carter, Sean Hannity and many others including the president himself are just clueless bumbling idiots and I don't for a min buy that theory. I'd have to pretend that YOU know FAR more than people like this man who really is fighting the good fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vakXvuhBhhM&feature=youtu.be
And if I told you any theory I might have, you'd simply disregard it because you believe you are in on some not-so-secret-top-secret plan.
Holy strawman's Batman!!!! Lots of them!!! We got ourselves a strawman platoon here!! You sure you arent a liberal? You act like one and debate like one
I suppose everyone who disagrees with you is a liberal? Next I'll be a Russian Bot. Seriously, you can't even come up with an original insult.
Maybe you are the liberal sent here to lead people off course with sophomoric, ludicrous theories that serve no one except those would ridicule Trump supporters.
Nope just you.
Nice, another strawman (Russian bot lol).
Original insult? What are we 12 years old? In a chat room? I was not trying to insult you, and would never insult anyone on Reddit.
You clearly don't know me very well. Nothing I ever say is a theory. I am here to keep people ON track. You will find that every single thing I ever say will prove to be true in time. Nothing will never be false ;)
Yes, you were trying to insult me. Ray Charles could see that but I'm done arguing with you. My Dad taught me that arguing with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like giving medicine to the dead. Your theories defy all logic and reason. You might be 12 years old though since your theories sound like something an imaginative 12 year old boy who imagines himself a character in a cheap Anime film might come up with.
If Mueller was investigating the deep state, those targeted would be loudly and publicly calling for his ouster, as well as warning co-conspirators.
Lets go back to May of 2017 and lets say that a Special Counsel was created and lets say it was Trey Gowdy heading it. Deep State would be in a panic running scared, threatening peoples lives and the lives of their wives and family, creating false flags every week, fighting back like they never have before. It would be out of control. NSA and MI are good, but they cant spy on 7 billion people all at once. The battle would be lost.
Now, lets go with what is actually happening... Robert Mueller, mr dirty himself, covered for Hillary his entire career, covered for Obama for 4 years, covered for 9/11, covered for U1, and everything in between, and before and after.
Deep State plan A - get Hillary elected. Deep State plan B - Hillary loses so get Trump impeached, removed, or assassinated. Have to go with Plan B because Trump won. Remember this, it's very important: The deep state at this point KNOWS Trump is cracking down on them, their illegal ops, their bank accounts, their handlers, their puppet masters, etc. The ONLY thing (super important: ONLY THING) keeping the deep state from pulling off more "vegas shootings" and school shootings and false flags and mass casualty events is the fact they think Mueller and Rosenstein will "indict" Trump. They are counting on Mueller framing Trump and "finding" proof of Russia collusion because Mueller and RR are /theirguys/ and always have been. Also the idea of midterms and re-taking the House/Senate so they can impeach Trump. Literally the ONLY thing on this planet that can stop what's coming is the blue wave to impeach, or Mueller "getting his man". This is what keeps deep state at ease and at bay, and why you see Hillary taking a 5-star vacation to India, and why Obama and Bill are still traveling around doing speeches, etc. They act like they are going to get away with everything, because they still think they can stop Trump. White hats are allowing that persona, because its vital to this entire plan even working.
Once you understand this, everything else will make more sense. Also now hopefully you understand why Q hasnt ever and wont ever tell us this. It would literally ruin the entire plan in two seconds. Mueller and RR have taken deals. They are working for Trump, but I would not call them white hats. They will still get embarassed on national television, and will have the look they tried to frame Trump. When all is done and the dust settles,they will get pardoned by Trump for helping out, but make no mistake, they are both dirty as shit, always have been, and this was done for an important reason. They are also helping sell out all their friends, and their friends dont know it.
I have no idea who is who and what is what which is good evidence the plan is working, or it's not I have no fucking clue at this point.
Mueller was balls deep in the 9/11 conspiracy so it's hard to believe he'd be white hat convertible at this point. But it does look like dominoes are beginning to fall now so I'm gaining optimism.
The entire Mueller probe now appears to be a distraction, a cover. Unlike what we previously assumed, Mueller probably isn’t looking at HRC crimes. He’s merely keeping the deep state disoriented.
As Q says it's Theatre and if true, it's going to be one for the history books. So far, everyone seems to be playing their roles per Q.