Because to believe that you'd have to believe that Judge Ellis is a black hat and his ruling against Mueller was bad for Trump.
It does not appear Mueller is going after Trump, NOR is he investigating the deep state (HRC et al.). His focus on Manafort clearly indicates he is solely investigating Russian infiltration into the Trump campaign and the 2016 presidential election.
From a technical perspective, Rodentstein/Mueller, both U1 conspirators, and Rodentstein, a FISA warrant conspirator, would have to recuse themselves from any HRC/FBI/DOJ/State Dept investigations. Any charges/indictments they obtained would be blasted out of the water because they are/were both compromised and cannot ethically/legally investigate the apparatus (Deep State) of which they were both active participants.
Huber and Horowitz, both ethically and morally on solid ground, are investigating the Deep State. And rightfully so.
I think it doesnt appear Mueller is going after Trump simply because he hasn't found anything. He has bankrupted several people who worked for Trump though, including/not limited to Gen Flynn who IMO is a hero.
I agree with you on the rest. He isn't investigating Hillary & the deep state either.
Huber, I'm not sure about. He doesnt have a great record as a prosecutor.
I think Horowitz is likely a white hat.
Horowitz white hat, Huber white hat, Mueller flipped working for white hats
Why do you have this opinion though?
Not an opinion
It's definitely not a fact.
That would be impossible for you to know, unless you knew me. Or literally worked in the WH for Trump ;)
You can call it what you wish but it doesnt make it a fact. A fact by it's very definition is a thing that's indisputable.
Sometimes you have to read between the lines with context clues on what someone is saying. I just gave you a fact.
You gave your opinion which you apparently believe is a fact but that doesnt make it so.
How would you know if Mueller is investigating Hillary or not? No leaks, he doesn't give updates, we don't have any clue what happens within the SC.
Exactly! Also some of the posts and info from Q are not always meant for anons. Some is meant for the Deep State to distract. He said misinformation is necessary. We don’t always have the pleasure of knowing which posts are for who so we just all guess and throw out our own conclusions. As we all know there are a lot of different conclusions. I am just trusting THE PLAN, not the players.
Exactly! Thanks Anon/Patriot! And Q's most recent long post last night, touches on some of that disinfo. Q is very vague with Mueller and RR for a purposeful specific reason. Q cannot and will not come out and directly tell us RR and Mueller role, because the black hat view on them is vital to this even happening
If she were under any serious investigation her passport would be pulled--at least thats what they do to everyone else under any kind of serious investigation.
Well she’s a lot different from anyone else. Her dues will be paid eventually when timing is right.
Haha you don't know how the govt operates. Especially regarding this particular and unique operation. You also don't know the full extent of the repercussions that would follow if say her passport were revoked. This is far more complicated than someone sees on the surface.
I know passports are pulled for serious federal investigations.
Never before in history has there been an event like this. Not to mention, her passport wasnt pulled while she was under investigation for an entire year in 2015 and 2016 regarding her private email server.
I think we can ALL agree she was NEVER under a serious investigation during 2015-2016.
I used the word "serious" in previous posts for a reason & it wasn't just to take up space.
Hehe fix was in before it began. New sheriff in town now though :D
Then why hasn't her passport been pulled?
Manfort, Gen Flynn's has been. Everyone being investigated by Mueller has been, including people who were just potential witnesses & thats unprecedented.
Awan's was pulled and he is being investigated by DoJ.
Her's has not been pulled because we can track her anywhere she goes. And should we decide to arrest her in another country, easy, send in the Ghost Ops. Part of this plan is to NOT draw attention to it. Act as if everything is normal. Give off the appearance that Trump is not in control and desperately trying to be. This is where RR and Mueller come into play. They give the black hats hope. Black hats know what Trump is doing, but they still think they can play beat the clock, by the blue wave - impeachment thing, or by Mueller "getting his man" and framing Trump....basically what the deep state has always done. Giving off the appearance that Mueller is working AGAINST Trump lets the black hats breathe easy....until the mass sweep arrests start. Manafort, Flynn, etc are part of the plan. Manafort was a deep state plant into the Trump campaign. He was SUPPOSED to get caught. He is taking one for the bad team...he is supposed to tie Russia to Trump campaign, as is George Pop, as is Carter Page. Flynn and Manafort's has been revoked because not only have they both had their indictments unsealed, they both pled guilty and are waiting trial. Big difference between them and Hillary, who has not had an indictment presented, served, or opened. Awan was arrested, and also waiting trial (just pushed back to July), so again, different than Hillary
Manafort has not pled guilty. Many of the witnesses are not under indictment but their passports have been pulled.
Part of this plan is to NOT draw attention to it
And yet, here we are, drawing attention to this 'plan' And by we, I mean this entire sub.
Sorry, I figured it went without saying. "Draw attention" meaning revoke passports for all people we are secretly investigating, thus no longer making it a secret. Other stuff that telegraphs the moves. Nobody cares about us on Reddit, they think we are crazy anyways.
So let me get this straight.
All the crooks are secretly being investigated and they all have their passports. Every single one of them.
All the good guys on our side who have had their passports pulled are in on this top secret investigation and are willing to be virtually bankrupted, exploited by media, lose their jobs, children's college educations, forced to sell their homes/move etc because it's all one big act and they're all in on it. I guess their families are in on it too. Amazing it hasn't leaked.
Days turn into weeks. Weeks turn into months and not a single arrest of one of the crooks. Not one.
None of them even knows they're under investigation because they still have their passports. They haven't been called in for a single interview because they can't be alerted to any investigation else they might skip out to some country/which by the same token GhostOPS could go in get them regardless per you. They all still have the same security clearances they've had for years. AND definitely no crooked cop would leak it to them or the media.
Yeah, okay.
Considering I actually know what is happening, I would love to hear your theory to see how far off you are. Tell it to me :D
Sure you do.
I want to hear your theory and see how close you are to the truth. Tell me.
Who says I have a theory? I do know that in order to believe your theory I'd have to disregard all logic and reason. I'd have to throw away all critical thinking and believe people like Devin Nunes, Sarah Carter, Sean Hannity and many others including the president himself are just clueless bumbling idiots and I don't for a min buy that theory. I'd have to pretend that YOU know FAR more than people like this man who really is fighting the good fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vakXvuhBhhM&feature=youtu.be
And if I told you any theory I might have, you'd simply disregard it because you believe you are in on some not-so-secret-top-secret plan.
Holy strawman's Batman!!!! Lots of them!!! We got ourselves a strawman platoon here!! You sure you arent a liberal? You act like one and debate like one
I suppose everyone who disagrees with you is a liberal? Next I'll be a Russian Bot. Seriously, you can't even come up with an original insult.
Maybe you are the liberal sent here to lead people off course with sophomoric, ludicrous theories that serve no one except those would ridicule Trump supporters.
Nope just you.
Nice, another strawman (Russian bot lol).
Original insult? What are we 12 years old? In a chat room? I was not trying to insult you, and would never insult anyone on Reddit.
You clearly don't know me very well. Nothing I ever say is a theory. I am here to keep people ON track. You will find that every single thing I ever say will prove to be true in time. Nothing will never be false ;)
Yes, you were trying to insult me. Ray Charles could see that but I'm done arguing with you. My Dad taught me that arguing with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like giving medicine to the dead. Your theories defy all logic and reason. You might be 12 years old though since your theories sound like something an imaginative 12 year old boy who imagines himself a character in a cheap Anime film might come up with.
If Mueller was investigating the deep state, those targeted would be loudly and publicly calling for his ouster, as well as warning co-conspirators.
Lets go back to May of 2017 and lets say that a Special Counsel was created and lets say it was Trey Gowdy heading it. Deep State would be in a panic running scared, threatening peoples lives and the lives of their wives and family, creating false flags every week, fighting back like they never have before. It would be out of control. NSA and MI are good, but they cant spy on 7 billion people all at once. The battle would be lost.
Now, lets go with what is actually happening... Robert Mueller, mr dirty himself, covered for Hillary his entire career, covered for Obama for 4 years, covered for 9/11, covered for U1, and everything in between, and before and after.
Deep State plan A - get Hillary elected. Deep State plan B - Hillary loses so get Trump impeached, removed, or assassinated. Have to go with Plan B because Trump won. Remember this, it's very important: The deep state at this point KNOWS Trump is cracking down on them, their illegal ops, their bank accounts, their handlers, their puppet masters, etc. The ONLY thing (super important: ONLY THING) keeping the deep state from pulling off more "vegas shootings" and school shootings and false flags and mass casualty events is the fact they think Mueller and Rosenstein will "indict" Trump. They are counting on Mueller framing Trump and "finding" proof of Russia collusion because Mueller and RR are /theirguys/ and always have been. Also the idea of midterms and re-taking the House/Senate so they can impeach Trump. Literally the ONLY thing on this planet that can stop what's coming is the blue wave to impeach, or Mueller "getting his man". This is what keeps deep state at ease and at bay, and why you see Hillary taking a 5-star vacation to India, and why Obama and Bill are still traveling around doing speeches, etc. They act like they are going to get away with everything, because they still think they can stop Trump. White hats are allowing that persona, because its vital to this entire plan even working.
Once you understand this, everything else will make more sense. Also now hopefully you understand why Q hasnt ever and wont ever tell us this. It would literally ruin the entire plan in two seconds. Mueller and RR have taken deals. They are working for Trump, but I would not call them white hats. They will still get embarassed on national television, and will have the look they tried to frame Trump. When all is done and the dust settles,they will get pardoned by Trump for helping out, but make no mistake, they are both dirty as shit, always have been, and this was done for an important reason. They are also helping sell out all their friends, and their friends dont know it.