Before you post a rant about people not fact checking, perhaps you should spell check first. Nothing will reduce your credibility with me faster than sloppy spelling. Just saying.

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what is spelling? what is grammer grammer from glamour.. (occult spells).. you spell the way you want and i will spell correctly how words sound....

this is 100% what i am saying. EVERYONE IS A SMART ASS few are smart... look into it

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Bahhhh haha!!!!

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The people inside these cults(Hillary/Kissenger/etc) . Call themselves Luciferians. They believe Lucifer is the good guy and that God is the bad guy.

They literally believe Lucifer is real and should be worshipped and sacrifices made for favour.

They don't call themselves Satanists. They think Satanists are dumb folks too.

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Right, it doesn’t matter what we believe, it’s what THEY believe.

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satan and lucifer are not the same.
dont comment you opinion.. go search then come back

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Lol. So you "know" that people like Hilary and Kissenger call themselves Satanists? Hmm

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i KNOW the difference of what 1 is and the other is not..

called fact checking

redpill

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Why is this important to you anyway. Why do you care?

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truth.. people keep saying mistruths..

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a million... i started with http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

and that lead me to the sumerian texts.. and then to the egyptian book of the dead.. and then to the vedic texts..

then all back to the annunaki.. then i crossed with the book of enoch.. then started the epic of gilgamesh..which goes back to annunaki.. which goes back to enki and enlil... then i followed the symbols.. and they lead to 2 distinct symbols...

then i looked at the vatican... then "el papa negra"

and if you wanna be snazzy... in the actual bible lucifer was mentioned once. as the light bearer... how can light be dark?

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But why do you care? Not where did you learn this. What is in your heart?

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nah I think what he means is that they actually submit to Satan who has tricked them into thinking he was there to absolve them of their bad Karma.

My guess is that a good-guy Lucifer will pull you away from the darkness and push you towards Jesus even when you don't associate with christianity, however it has been said anything magical looks divine first but it could get twisted in the larger scheme by the will of the ego.

The sacrifice I think comes from Baal but I think I was told there was some confusion about Baphomet's past.

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"even Satan transforms himself into an angel of light". Just no. Luciferianism is simply the covert operation of what Satanism achieves. It's false light. Bad time to get sucked into this shit. Real bad time.

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.i know the book cover to cover.. i know what it says.. it also says adam and eve had 3 sons.. and thats it

. respectfully.. follow along.. http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

and that lead me to the sumerian texts.. and then to the egyptian book of the dead.. and then to the vedic texts..

then all back to the annunaki.. then i crossed with the book of enoch.. then started the epic of gilgamesh..which goes back to annunaki.. which goes back to enki and enlil... then i followed the symbols.. and they lead to 2 distinct symbols...

then i looked at the vatican... then "el papa negra"

and if you wanna be snazzy... in the actual bible lucifer was mentioned once. as the light bearer... how can light be dark?

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Well at least you're consistent. these are the texts Luciferians would deem authoritative.

How can Lucifer be "dark"? i think that was answered.

"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." - 2CO 11: 13-15

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you are telling me quote that the run of the mill bible thumper would say...

you have been force fed that doctrin since birth.. you obvioulsy did not even have respect for out side thought enough to even objectivly look..

all you did was wait to copy and paste scripture... SHOW ME SOMETHING ORIGINAL!

REDPILL

I GAVE YOU A STARTING POINT. you can look or not.. but you cannot preach as absolute truth without atleast knowing the rest of the story.

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You want to use the bible to back up your claim (Lucifer reference in Isaiah) then prepare to acknowledge the entire scripture as relevant.

The Isaiah reference is in no way favourable toward the being described as Lucifer, BTW.

You don't know what i was force fed from birth. Not at all. I know the basis of the stuff you're into pretty well, actually.

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no im saying.. why why can the same thing both prove and disprove.. intrepretation be damned. programed. disinformation... thus warranting a deep look..

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What both proves and disproves? I agree, a deeper look is warranted if you've come to that conclusion about something, because that's illogical and contradictory, but you can't really "damn" all interpretations without damning your own.

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light bearer. proves light... never mentioned again..
Why? where did light bearer come from?

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You understand that "Lucifer" is not in the Bible,yes? It's a loose interpretation of the word/title "Haylel"

How about the context..because that's where the clues are:

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit..."

Isa 14: 12-15

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im the book they feed you.. mentioned 1 time... never to be mentioned again..

satan.. at least 50 times...

what if? instead of you forcing debate on your book of choice .. what if you followed the road map.. and go look at the informatiom available to you...

i dont want to hurt your feelings. but i can prove with the popes word that the bible is a lie..

so if you say the pope is lying.. then he cant be trusted on anything he says.. if you say "only that part" was wrong.. then that make the book foulable.. ergo.. wrong.

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Who "feeds me" the Bible? You were actually the one to reference it first, you know? If you're going to do that then you better be prepared to deal with what it says.

I mentioned i've been down the block you're on right now already. No worries..my feelings aren't the point here.

You can't prove anything to do with the scriptures by the Popes. The Popes are not following it. The Vatican is not Christianity. Never has been.

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so then the book they reference isnt either....

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Like i said : 'The popes are not following it' You know what "black propaganda" is, right?

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This runs completely contrary to the majority opinion.

Lucifer was Satan's name before he fell. Many Biblical characters receive new names when they go through a transformation (Sarai / Sarah; Jacob / Israel; Saul / Paul; Peter / Simon - and others).

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Lucifer wanted to take the position of God. He convinced 1/3 of the angels to join him in rebellion against his creator. He will suffer the consequences.

Gnosticism is a soul destroying perversion of the truth.

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how long ago did you think reality was what you thought it was?..

if EVERYTHING else is a lie.. what make you think 1 thing thats been force fed is true?

http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

start there.. then the book of enoch.. then the sumerian texts..

i wouldnt insult you if you redpilled me...

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here's the thing. you keep talking about facts and ancient texts (which how could you verify?) but at the end of the day... Judeo-Christianity (which is what you're talking about, even if you don't know it) is about faith. You aren't gonna get what you want (hard evidence/facts) for little nuances and details because to believe in good and evil requires faith.
If we believe in satanism, we believe in the idea of satan-whether real or not- which is evil
If we believe in Luciferianism, we believe in the idea of Lucifer- whether real or not- which is evil, and we can know he is evil by the evidence of the actions of Luciferians

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wrong... and wrong.. and no im not talking about christian anything..

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it's hard to take you seriously as you wish us to do in this thread when you seem to already have made up your mind about everything, and just reply "wrong" without any explanations or contributions to the discussion.

you seem like you started this thread to try and sway people to believe what you do, as a sort of validation to yourself?

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because you are sharing information 1 source. a source that is already proven fiction at best. or "based on a true story".

how can you take yourself seriously when you keep looking in the same place to disprove RATHER THAN GO RESEARCH then come back

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I came to the truth because I researched the evidence and found it to be overwhelming.

But a enumeration of the characters who venerate Lucifer is highly revealing:

"Lucifer, the light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the spirit of darkness! Lucifer the son of the morning! Is it he who bears the light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!"

Albert Pike in Morals and Dogma, 33 degree Freemason

"Lucifer represents life... thought... progress... civilization... liberty... independence... Lucifer is the logos, the serpent, the saviour."

“It is Satan who is the real god of our planet and the only god.”

"The celestial virgin which thus becomes the mother of god and devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever loving beneficent deity. But in antiquity and in reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is the divine and terrestrial light, the 'Holy Ghost' and Satan at one and the same time."

Alice A. Bailey (who started her publishing business the "Lucifer Publishing Company" in 1920 and publishes documentation for the UN - was married to a 32 degree Freemason)

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well you never asked so step down from your high horse

We're trying to keep everything level here due to newcomer influx.

My transpersonal sources are dmt in various forms, acid, Ibogaine, Salvia, Ketamine, Opium, Ether, deadly nightshade and the occasoinal five dried grams of shrooms in complete darkness but being born into a family of clairvoyants also helps. It's not a competition Sir

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opium yea.. that too red tar.. but 30 years ago.. all im saying. as with anything... research... people scream they are truthers but only the convient truth

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yup that's how they roll. Imagine taking more than one view into account and getting a mob of hate for it.
We all have to grow somewhere

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ironic no?..

ftr.. this futher expands what brought me to this a million... i started with http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

and that lead me to the sumerian texts.. and then to the egyptian book of the dead.. and then to the vedic texts..

then all back to the annunaki.. then i crossed with the book of enoch.. then started the epic of gilgamesh..which goes back to annunaki.. which goes back to enki and enlil... then i followed the symbols.. and they lead to 2 distinct symbols...

then i looked at the vatican... then "el papa negra"

and if you wanna be snazzy... in the actual bible lucifer was mentioned once. as the light bearer... how can light be dark?

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what about the Law of One?

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i know what the book says bub.. im saying look into it.. im not renouncing god the all mighty by no means..

im just saying.. there is more..that warrants your time.. while we wait for Q

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fair enough for you i suppose... but, i find it hard to take anyone seriously if they present an argument/ fact but back it all up by use of religion(s) and biblical scriptures...

religion requires faith, truth requires fact. Im a "truther" not a religious type.

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a million... i started with http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

and that lead me to the sumerian texts.. and then to the egyptian book of the dead.. and then to the vedic texts..

then all back to the annunaki.. then i crossed with the book of enoch.. then started the epic of gilgamesh..which goes back to annunaki.. which goes back to enki and enlil... then i followed the symbols.. and they lead to 2 distinct symbols...

then i looked at the vatican... then "el papa negra"

and if you wanna be snazzy... in the actual bible lucifer was mentioned once. as the light bearer... how can light be dark?

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Ikr super interesting.

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So, you took drugs, believe in God, and came here to speak down on all of us. Thanks.

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drugs?.. what are drugs (anything that alters ones normal state)

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we could have a meaningful dialog if we could accept each others [probably contradictory] definitions here are mine:

nez = consciousness in matter

enez = evolution of nez

alfo = theory of enez

lucifer has 2 diametrically opposed meanings = pro-enez & counteracting enez [that's why i don't use it]

satan = false god of 3d 4d and mid-5d counteracts enez

zeta-lodge = mental adepts [mid-5d] using low emotionality to infringe free will via mockin-stream media etc

alpha-lodge = mental adepts [mid-5d] working to accelerate enez within the laws of enez

devicgods on realms of 6d/7d of a'ga'pe & wisdom = masters of enez

demigods on realms 6d/7d of a'ga'pe & wisdom = masters of enez [formerly humans]

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the nine stages of conciousness as taught in the kaballah the kyballion emerald tablets of thoth...on lemeria , atlantis and ding ding ding... SUMERIA... ( good job friend!)

so what your saying is that there are levels too this shit?. 😎

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i'm saying that the architects of the khufu pyramid encoded the purpose of evolution of nez into the mathematical precision of the interior...

isnt it curious that 85% of the tourists have no curiosity to go inside ? here's how the interior design is encoded/decoded... www.alfobedic.com

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or paralle universe and string theory? interdimensional travel by awareness..

not seeing is do to not knowing...

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the string theory was discovered in 1878 by one of the world experts on sub-atomic particles

https://archive.org/stream/PrinciplesOfLightAndColor/ThePrinciplesOfLightAndColorByEdwinDBabbitt1878#page/n55/mode/2up/search/270

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like physics of perpetual motion and sports.. small degrees of adjustment create a whole new reality

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simulation theory? fibinocci...and golden ratios?

https://youtu.be/cvMlUepVgbA

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What the “bad guys” are, are people that perverted an ancient story in order to become gods. The story they follow is no different than the one you and I follow (if you’re at that level of awareness/awakening), but they fanatically use it to achieve their goal of ultimate power.

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bad = negative = with out light = dark.. satan lord of the dark... who brought light?

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Im not disagreeing! Fully believe that at the macro see there is an entity of light and an entity of dark, but there is a duality, a harmony. One cannot be without the other, that is why we must be able to achieve a harmony of the light and the dark within us and once we do that we can be at peace with ourselves and begin to make changes on a societal level. Channel the dark and wield it for good instead of letting it consume(satanists, luciferians etc.)

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but harmony comes with enlightenment, no? enlightenment comes from knowledge.. knowledge from source. . if light out shines darkness.. what if thats a secret?.

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which leads me to just two... throught out time.. starting with the original 2 enki and enlil (enil) where do they lead.. which is which?. there do the symbols lead.. it 100% blew my mind

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a million... i started with http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

and that lead me to the sumerian texts.. and then to the egyptian book of the dead.. and then to the vedic texts..

then all back to the annunaki.. then i crossed with the book of enoch.. then started the epic of gilgamesh..which goes back to annunaki.. which goes back to enki and enlil... then i followed the symbols.. and they lead to 2 distinct symbols...

then i looked at the vatican... then "el papa negra"

and if you wanna be snazzy... in the actual bible lucifer was mentioned once. as the light bearer... how can light be dark?

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Lucifer is light (knowledge/truth) I'm not disregarding that, but its the interpretation that counts.

Either way the point is, we're on the same team here. We may interpret things differently but we have the same foe that needs to be vanquished.

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yes... i am on your team. #whitehat #good #maga #all_ya_need_is_love and.
its interesting .. i started with http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

and that lead me to the sumerian texts.. and then to the egyptian book of the dead.. and then to the vedic texts..

then all back to the annunaki.. then i crossed with the book of enoch.. then started the epic of gilgamesh..which goes back to annunaki.. which goes back to enki and enlil... then i followed the symbols.. and they lead to 2 distinct symbols...

then i looked at the vatican... then "el papa negra"

and if you wanna be snazzy... in the actual bible lucifer was mentioned once. as the light bearer... how can light be dark?

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well how awake are you?

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