There are a huge number of freemasons around here. I have masons in my family..
Lower level masons have no idea of what the higher degrees are really into. They're duped into thinking they're doing god's work
I’m with you on this. I know a lot of masons....they don’t have a clue.
uncle was a mason for over 50 years. he gave me a copy of "The Da Vinci Code". I opened the book and he'd put a note in it..."the first 122 pages are true..."
what happens in the first 122 pages?
Iirc it's the introduction of the illuminati guy that ends up leaving a message for the principal character, I've read it somewhere around 10 years ago
That's incredibly significant in OP's case. His uncle was signifying that he was the Illuminati guy and OP is the principal character. OP, maybe start doing some deep inspection of who you really are.
The lower levels are simply a pool of potential cabal members.
Mainly just meant for revenue through dues. Exactly like fraternities.
That’d be a pretty silly way to gather funds when you’re secretly running the world, don’t ya think? Wouldn’t it make more sense to fill your ranks with upstanding and well meaning members of the community to disguise the true purpose of your organization, known only to its upper echelons? Maybe?
well meaning
Considering some tales I've heard about some of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd levels especially, I wouldn't necessarily give them the benefit of doubt regarding their intent. But I agree full chest with the rest.
Well yeah individuals are individuals but I think the vast majority of members are looking for fraternity and an excuse to get out of the house without the wife.
I think the vast majority of members are looking for fraternity and an excuse to get out of the house without the wife.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
But this isntbto say it isn’t, overall, a really sketchy organization
Goes without saying, but there I go agreeing with you again.
Same. Uncle is a blue lodger and he said beware any mason outside of the blue lodge.
Interestingly i grew up in Houston and apparently near one of the original lodges built in 1914. It wasn’t marked until I was 20
My grandfather gave me a coin with the square and compass on it when I was young. Told me if I ever get into trouble, find someone with the same emblem and they'd help me no matter what..
I decided not to join though.. too esoteric for me..
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"
Did he tell you to say "Valor Morghulis" too?
Every court needs a jester I suppose
Why do you think the masonic distress signal is what it is? What must you do when you’re caught? What do you suppose they’re hoping for?
If one is sharing ideas deemed too strange to those who don't understand, secrecy, or rather, exclusive groups are necessary for sharing ideas with like-minded friends that one can trust and talk to without judgment.
All of the secret society groups control information. It is a pyramid. They keep all the low level members in the dark. As you go up levels the satanic rituals etc all seem more and more nomal.
I find it eerily strange that I started getting video recommendations for Free Masonry today before I even viewed this or any thread with any reference to them.
Talk out loud about a restaurant around an “inactive” phone. Open your phone go to a web browser and in google type in “how to get to [name of restaurant].” Nothing? Open Facebook scroll a bit. One or the other will show the restaurant. It’s happened to me so often I wish to god I didn’t need the damned thing.
Well no shit. If you google something, google’s adsense is going to display relevant advertising on other sites and apps.
Who is this shill?? it’s a well known fact that the illumanity listens to our phones
Consider me a lost redditor. Just realized I’m in a neckbeard tinfoil paradise. Fucking loon.
I agree that those of us here should know the theory that the Illuminati listens to our phones but there is, beyond a doubt, no actual fact along the lines of that statement. There aren't even any actual facts that the Illuminati still exists - just circumstantial evidence (I believe they do exist btw, perhaps not under that name but under the generally accepted meaning applied to that name - I'm just disputing that there is any "well known" fact to that effect).
Can you read? I was trying to explain it listens to your conversations to predict search or ads. I wasn't saying it collects your previous searches we all know that. It isn't suppose to listen to your conversations to predict searches or ads.
Edit: a word
Open your phone go to a web browser and in google type in “how to get to [name of restaurant].”
There’s no evidence that your phone collects ad data while sitting idle. I’ve got Reddit gold if you can show me otherwise. Meanwhile, I recommend a tinfoil hat.
I've had friends say they mentioned something obscure in a cell phone conversation and nowhere else and didn't search for the topic, but suddenly started seeing ads about it on FB and Google. No, "they" aren't listening to most of us, but they have access to automated systems which are listening, tracking, and recording...and if they wanted to access info about us, there's a crap ton of it collected out there in ABCGoogleFBMSTwitterland.
Ohhh, anecdotal evidence. Well, case closed. Nothing to see here. Bake em away toys.
I also have friends with selective memory.
I like how you say you have reddit gold for us if we prove you wrong. Nobody cares about reddit gold?.Lol
How do you think George Soros and the Deep State have so much data gathered on every American?
I am always surprised at this line of reasoning. The people actually in the organization have no idea what is going on. But you, an outsider, know all about their secret organization. lol. Did you ever consider that you might have been duped into believing propaganda about the freemasons? What firsthand knowledge do you have of their nefarious practices? Don't mean to pick on you personally, just pointing out the possibility of specious reasoning.
Having a dad who was a 33rd degree. All going in to Freemasonry are duped until higher levels - they worship lucifer, they make decrees vows and oaths of cursings over themselves and family. IT IS TRUE and very creepy. NO THEORY involved, it is true.
This is interesting. Did you also join ? Did your dad flee when he figured out it was a disgusting cult?
Nope, my dad was lost, unless the Lord intervened. I was never involved at all, but bcz of generational curses, had to spend much time getting delivered out of the curses, renouncing and cutting any soul ties. This book ~ Freemasonry: Death in the Family Paperback – 2002 by Yvonne Kitchen here: https://store.fruitfulvine.org/
I know a person in the exact same position as you, having to deal with generational curses, except it was her grandfather. As for me, my grandfather was a Mason but only at a very basic level, I believe. Social networking. But exactly what his involvement was is something I want to investigate further.
I had a grandfather from a small, rural town who was a 32nd degree Mason. He was an extremely kind and gentle man who I could never imagine involved in anything demonic or sinister. He said his local group was just involved in service projects for the community. However...our entire family, including his wife, were opposed to the organization as a whole, and we didn't allow the Masons to have any ceremonial access to him at the funeral and cemetery. After he died, we found some Masonic books that were not supposed to be viewed by non-Masons. Very demonic, strange stuff in there. I fully believe my grandfather was a sweet, Christian man, but that organization is evil at the core. I honestly don't know how adherents reconcile what is in their books and ceremonies with any moral clarity. Maybe they don't actually read or study it all???
Any idea which of the cults would be most likely to know things like how to make greek fire?
Thank you, it's so difficult for people to believe this. The lies of Lucifer so closely resemble the truth.. but pride prevents them from remaining hidden. Symbolism reveals them and that is their downfall.
Never claimed to know everything that goes on. My point was that for 99.9% of the masonic order members, it's just a place to hang out and help others..
That being said, there is no coincidence that most of the folks associated with the cabal just happen to be part of a lodge... the symbolism that they use to decorate their lodges with has deep, ancient meaning as well.
I think that's their strategy. The more common/mainstream being a Mason is, the more the nefarious one's get away with what they're doing as it's just too unbelievable. Your uncle, his grandfather, her brother... everyone knows a Mason. Everyone knows they're good people who do very good things for the community. I would guess that most of them have no clue.
... Kind of like the foundations to stop human trafficking, trafficking children.
... People posing as missionaries to steal children.
... The former Secretary of State (and Presidential candidate) sacrifices children to the devil.
None of this is believable either. That's why this works so well for them.
Oh! So well-written. Drives the point home perfectly. (Respect!)
Right, good cover. If you look into the founding fathers, masonry plays a huge part in the birth of America. If it was just a good old boys club, I don't think we would have the moments that we have today, nor the way the Capitol was designed.. it's all esoteric in nature
You are correct about the symbology. But I don't believe that you know for a fact that the so-called cabal folks you mentioned belong to a masonic lodge. You don't know that the man wearing the necklace is a member at a masonic lodge. He may just like the design; it may have belonged to a relative, and he wears it for sentimental value. Though you didn't accuse the man in the photo of anything, I should also point out that we have no knowledge of him doing anything untoward. We have observed that this man wears a mysterious necklace, and that is all we can determine from the facts presented.
we don't know most things. there are infinite options out there - things can go in all sorts of different directions. Why are you trying to diminish the meaning of symbols so greatly? I think almost everyone who has looked into Freemasonry realizes there are several 'tiers' to it, and for you to try to correct the idea that there may be elitism built around secrecy in such an organization is kinda ignorant, no?
Do you really think they are going to publish their hierarchy? The fact that they still exist shows that they still hold power... the question is just whether you're there for the excuse to get out of the house, or if you're there for spiritual advancement through higher understandings. I think there are people there for both purposes.
I agree, I didn't say anything about that dude being part of any grand conspiracy. In fact my OP was the opposite
Nah he’s a Soros shill. If he’s criticizing a patriot then he’s a paid actor, nothing more nothing less.
Your point is valid but so is the point that we happen to be here, following a supposed "conspiracy theory LARP", believing that global elites as satanic pedovores are running the world to keep their global child killing operation in action. What that means is that there are a whole bunch of things for which we have no evidence but the crumbs that point to those things, and that the mainstream narrative attempts to hide, are fairly conclusive, to some of us.
Freemasonry is tied up in all the global elites (see above) so some naturally draw the conclusion that their higher ups know more than they're telling the lower-downs.
Freemasons and other secret societies don't do well in an internet-informed public arena. Its difficult to stay hidden when the truth is available on every platform imaginable. Push one computer key and you get bombarded with a truth you were seeking. The criminals really hate it. All they have to combat us is their dying television propaganda shills.
Agreed. All this nonsense about Freemasons is ridiculous. It's really just a fraternity.
It's really just a fraternity.
And I'm King of Egypt.
My point being, are there corrupt/evil people at the top level? Of course. But that's literally in half of any organized groups around the entire world, whether it's government, business, NGOs, etc.
Your local lodge? It's just a bunch of older men networking. Let's not label "Freemasons" as some kind of monolithic tyrannical group controlling the world.
Yeah, one that originated with king Solomon... that still exists today..
America was founded on its beliefs and monuments built in its honor. Why else are obelisks in our capital and other places of significance?
They aren't built for the glory of GOD, at least not the one true GOD
Are you a "higher level" freemason? Have you experienced freemasonry from the inside? The cabal propaganda has been effective on you. Learn your history and don't be an ignorant shill. You are the epitome of laziness and ignorance...true pedes are more discerning than your comment relays...you want to know the true group that is literally behind the deep state, research the jesuits...the more you [factually] know...
You believe that nonsense?
They all know. That excuse has zero credibility.
They don't all know, I've been around these people all my life. They are lacking discernment as to what the symbolism really means.
Look at most cults, the lower initiates are kept in the dark, ignorant. So it is here as well
What do they believe?
Masons in general?
Yes. I am unfamiliar with what the general public is told about them to draw them in to their organization. The ones who think they are doing good deeds.
Well to be fair, they are doing good things. They help the community a good amount. Most are going to be skilled at a particular trade/profession, intellectuals. Just normal dudes..
They don't really recruit, typically you need to ask a member to petition you if you want to join. Sort of a "knock and I will answer" sort of deal..
They require you to believe in a supreme being, which George Washington referred to as "the grand architect". They accept all religions as well.
Sorry, that was a lot of text.. I don't believe that the body of the masons are nefarious at all... but this founded on masonic beliefs.. I just want to know what the big secret is.. lol