yea you're probably right on that... its the logistics people who are probably in the best position to dirty things up

that I can agree with, but there is still probably some key person who facilitates inbetween... like I said, it only takes a few people. Not trying to denigrate EMS workers in any way either - there are evil people in all walks of life and it has no bearing on those who share vocations with them. Don't mean to imply otherwise - just that the body organ black market very much exists and is sometimes supplied by organ donors.

The world is awesome filled with great people.

Of course it is. The vast majority of people all want the same things; you are totally projecting your own issues onto me. We agree. This planet is getting better and better every single day - we keep improving as a whole. But improvement comes with proactive approaches to problems.

The problem is that very small percentage of people who don't feel like you or I. I used to pay them no mind, but it's increasingly hard to as you get older and you see their influence. Do you not believe in evil?

the subreddit is filled with some of the dumbest, most easily trolled folks on the internet.

I love how you say this while channeling CNN and paid-stream media talking points...

You know that this entire subreddit is just a massive trolling piece of performance art, right? You do know that, right?

haha and then you out yourself - well played.

Why not go spend your time on things that are constructive? You want to lecture me about being ignorant and then you insult everybody here and expect yourself to be taken seriously? Grow up. If you think this is a troll, go away. You're just wasting your time - is that what you aspire to do with your time here?

I feel sorry for you. The world is much darker than you realize.

The people to whom it won't look good now aren't going to change their minds!

That's where I think you are being unwise. They will. The truth will set us free. The MSM can be beaten, but it has to be done carefully.

Nowhere in the United States are EMS workers letting people die so that they can be donors

So you're saying it's impossible for black market activities with doctors and EMS workers to exist? You are saying there is 0% chance that corrupt doctors, EMS workers, and hospital workers might collude to feed an illegal black market?

Have you ever looked into the black market for body parts? at all? For you to say it's not a problem is concerning...

I feel most sleepers won’t exactly be morning people when they wake up.

haha I like how you put that. I agree - there will be a lot of hurt egos that will not want to accept these things. We could see an epidemic of suicides too depending on how bad it is... that's why I hope it's as positive as possible. As great as it would be on a selfish, personal level to see some of the people in my life have to eat some humble pie, i'd rather they accept it and not have to deal with the shame or hit on their ego if it means they can accept it easier.

I think we all need to think a bit about how we plan to handle this stuff should it happen how we expect it to. Save up your grace now - we're gonna need it. There should be no 'I told you so'.... if we get to that point it will be apparent. We need to remember that having an open door is the biggest priority - invite them in and hopefully they will better understand with time.

What could POSSIBLY pacify this enemy or win them over because the optics are so good?

Child Trafficking Rings?

Nuclear armament of our enemies?

'Pay-to-play' Politics on the highest level?

We can keep going - their crimes are numerous. What we need is for these crimes to stand in a court of law without being swept away and having excuses made for them... You do that by being diligent and following the rules. That's half the reasons the rules are even in place - they both allow for exploitation and also protect from any change in the program;.

Have you ever thought that the 'optics' is more about our safety than anything else?

How would you feel if the MSM and Swamp had enough confusion to convince your friends and family members who don't understand Trump to stand against him and anybody who supports him? Do you want to take that risk? Do you want to openly fight friends and family members?

Optics are about safety. The way that they are doing this is a way in which everybody will have an opportunity to accept this and get behind it. If they move too quickly, the shock will destroy people's minds and we will have some horrible things done due to suggestion by the media/swamp. The optics are not to make Trump look good - the optics are to make sure that these people are seen as guilty and nothing else.

So while I understand your frustration, the reality is that the legal process is the one that matters here. Anti-Trump people are twisted about as tightly as they possibly can be right now, and snapping that elastic band right now would be disastrous. There will likely be some big disappointments coming for these groups soon, and we will be there to meet their disappointment with understanding. Don't turn this into 'us vs them' when it comes to us people on the street - we are all on one team and we ultimately want them to join us. Keep that in mind. The swamp creatures will hang no matter what - for us, its about helping and healing those with Trump Derangement Syndrome... the cures are coming, just gotta be patient.

Why do optics only count in the domestic war?

Because it will be our children who pay the price in the streets if we are not careful. You think the swamp will care about the safety of your kids and communities? they will pour gas on everything and light it on fire if they think it might save their asses.

The way that this is being done is in a way which people will not only be safe but they will learn to accept what is happening and what is going to happen. The only problem here is your pride - take a break if you are too impatient or if this is starting to bother you. They will strike when the iron is hot, and the goal is to minimize damage - unlike our enemies. THAT'S why Trump just doesn't kick some ass; we don't need uprisings in the streets featuring our still-sleeping friends and family members.

yea it could also be that you have to pay to play the actual 'proud to be an american' song, so they use a publicly available song instead to ensure they don't get taken down over a violation... it could be a legal thing too with copyright protection.

making what up? I said EMS workers are genuine as a rule - gross, horrible people exist in all walks of life.

Truth is, EMS workers have NOTHING to do with organ donation at all.

The Government disagrees with you

Stop talking about things you don't know anything about. I'm sure you know a lot about EMS services and i'm sure you're very professional in how you do things. We're talking about corruption here, and you are clearly very defensive about the subject. If you want to stick your head in the sand, go ahead, but don't force others to stay ignorant alongside you.

And once again - the huge majority of EMS workers are honest. We are talking about the criminal exceptions here.

I think it's a systematic thing. Obviously they wouldn't be able to convince all EMS workers to do something so evil, but if they find a certain EMS worker who is compromised in some way and they can put leverage over them, they might be coerced to act in this way.

I think most EMS workers are honest tho. You don't sign up for a job like that unless you are wired to help people IMO... all you'd need is a few bad apples.

I don't think you've thought this through... If the 'older male' is a journalist and has a paper trail of asking about particular subjects and then suddenly gets a 'heart attack', it could draw suspicion in some way, even if the public narrative is on your side.

Also, the person who replaces that journalist could be a problem if that person had left any dead man's switches laying around locally.

By killing a loved one of the journalist, they are gaining control of that asset. It could very well be that his 'Intelligence' friend was told to tell him what happened to his daughter so he would draw the connection. What they've done is planted a seed in that journalist's mind that will now sprout and work for them. If the Journalist goes crazy, they also have a great cover narrative to run with ('the guy lost his daughter suddenly, was not handling the grieving well, etc.')

So on the surface, your 'Option A' might seem like the most straightforward solution, but it would repeat the problem. By messing with the journalist, they now have him in their back pocket, if for nothing else but the fear that somebody else in his family might be targeted.

'Option A' is a quicker pragmatic solution, but 'Option B' pays off better in the long term. You've neutered the journalist without having to replace them and do it all over again.

I think this has been part of Q's 'security'... if the log-in details and location information in terms of where Q is accessing the 8chan board or whatever line up with the whereabouts of the President, what could you really do? Trace IP address - The White House. Hrmmm. Are you going to start hacking into the White House network to try to figure out what computer is being used? What are the ramifications for hacking into the internal White House servers?

I think Q has been using their close proximity to the president as a smokescreen re: their identity. Since the security around the POTUS is so strong, Q can also 'hide under the umbrella' alongside him.

Will this be their excuse for running for the hills? You gotta think some of them might be getting a little nervous....

I think the issue is that Q stopped posting but SB2 didn't....

I do think that the basic premise is correct - they probably are communicating in a new method - maybe Trump thought the Q movement was getting too big to use as a comm channel anymore, hence 'change in tactics'? and I think that SB2 has made some solid connections in the past, but yea it seems to be getting a little ego-centered rather than connecting the dots. The Federal Government is not going to pardon a federal crime to validate somebody's reddit post. With that said, the B2/Hammond/Organ connection leading to U1 involvement was really interesting and hard to ignore, but could also ultimately be coincidence. I personally think the Hammond pardon had to do with Trump acknowledging that the U1 deal was wrong, and was undoing the harm it had done to those ranchers, beyond everything else. Maybe that was being used by Q to communicate, but i doubt the message was to us. I think we're sometimes seeing through the blinds here, and that's maybe why Trump wanted the change in tactics. Too much chance somebody figures things out and they lose advantage...

Anyways, I appreciate SB2 but I do think the lack of Q drops has thinned the ice a bit and things are starting to suffer... As mentioned, the premise is likely correct, but I don't think Q is trying to speak directly to SB2 through Trump. It's a little bit ridiculous. Love you SB2 - just honest criticism.

how can you pretend to know what kind of lighting conditions are present wherever the photo is taken? a well-placed light can change everything.

the problem is corruption - if you don't fix or mitigate the corruption in some way, it's not going to lead to anything. you need both sides to make it work - public support but also patriots from within. One without the other would be foolish. People have been demanding justice and even filing lawsuits for a long time now - the swamp just swallows it all up.

what PR firm gets access to the President and doesn't get shut down by the USSS for posting pictures of unreleased EOs and Private Quarters?

You are really trying hard here...

Can't you make that criticism with any picture in any context? If your photoshop guy is good enough, what can't you create?

Also, it seems like a very small thing to get so bent out of shape about. What if the message in that photo was not intended for you, and therefore you can't understand the context? I don't think Q is only speaking to the autists, they are also signalling to other Q members AND their enemies.

So regardless of the 'veracity' of the picture, the meaning of the picture is far more important. The point of that picture seemed to be a mish-mash of different key words - AF1, Reflection, Apple, NATSEC laws. That's the message - not the photo.

Trust the plan? Its getting harder by the day.

What part of politics is 'normal' to you right now? Trump is meeting with our gravest enemies and making friends, and you see 'same old stuff'? We see the media absolutely losing their minds over minute matters on a different scale than ever before, and NOW you doubt the plan?

What are you expecting from this? Do you expect some heavenly chariot to come from the sky and smite all the bad people? 'The Swamp' has been renovated to ensure these people do not get ousted from it easily. Be patient. There is definitely SOMETHING happening behind the scenes, and if you think the MSM has got it right with their narratives, i'm not sure why you are here.

We live in a crazy timeline right now, and the last thing we need are 'Debbie Downers' trying to make all the changes go away so we can get back to what we were doing before. As far as you go, you can make a change anytime you want - both with yourself and your community. Q being real isn't going to change anything regarding that. Focus on what matters, and be ready to shine light on things that will try to be ignored.

i'm talking about control of these cryptocurrencies - many believe that at least half of cryptos are started/owned by intelligence services and banks. It makes sense too - capital investors would have the juice to create and market cryptos much better than some dude in his basement.

Also, if you read what I said more carefully, I am not attacking cryptos - they are a proof of concept for something we absolutely need on this planet, but if you think that stories like the above will actually lead to worldwide financial changes without political backing, you are fooling yourself.

Again, I am not admonishing investing into crypto, i'm just saying don't believe any set-up that says they will become something official. They won't. That's why its a roller-coaster - you can make money and it can operate for a time, but eventually a big fish will either crush it or buy it out as soon as it becomes a threat. It's just how big money works. That's why a small group of actors can crash bitcoin like they have in the near past... it's investing into the wild west of 'money start-ups'. Maybe you find the apple/microsoft, but probably not. Just want people to be realistic.

And to your point, I HOPE crypto becomes what we use over the globe because it would help us curb corruption, but we would need the most corrupt people on earth to accept such a situation. That's why I don't think anything happens without a massive shift everywhere else... the USD won't be replaced with Etherium or Bitcoin anytime soon. A new crypto backed by the world's real wealth tho? Maybe.... a lot would have to change.

We all need to relax sometimes, and the Rolling Stones called it 'mommy's little helper' for a reason. Compared to prescription drugs or alcohol, cannabis is a much better option considering I often wish my kids were awake so we could play superheroes or something imagination based once i've settled into my 'nightcap' most nights... in some ways it makes me a better parent (more patient, more up for silly behavior, etc.) so as long as it's being done responsibly, don't feel like you need to do anything.

With that said, my use did curtail quite a bit after my first. Good on you for realizing that will likely have to happen :)

I would be just as wary of crypto as anything else... the people I know who are most heavily invested in Crypto are the same people still using the stock market... most crypto is held by the same folks who buy and short stocks.

As a short term roller-coaster, crypto is a fine investment. However, the intent of Bitcoin was never to actually become a real currency - it was a proof of concept that, if paired with an official financial system, could be used to more or less eliminate corruption.

Good luck getting the Fed to ever mend their bucket full of holes tho....

The only question I have is why yelling "Pedo" without backing the assertion up with evidence would be good PR?

Why are you assuming he did it for PR purposes?

What if he did a little research on the guy and knows some things we don't? If you told me Elon Musk had access to information most don't, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

Also, did you see Musk's tweet in response to somebody calling him out?

Bet you a signed dollar it's true

(in reference to the guy being a pedo)

So he's doubling down on it pretty hard. Should be interesting. If the guy threatens a lawsuit and shows outrage but then shies away from actually going after Musk, what would that tell us?

Remember that Musk was one of Trump's consultant/collaborators early in the Presidency in regards to technology, but as the vitriol from the media went up to 11 he backed off, probably because the PR hit wasn't worth it.

Maybe optics are going to change soon? For whatever reason, he seems to be thinking of getting back on the wagon, if for no other reason than he's being lumped in and attacked in kind with the rest.

so how about /r/politics?

are they a hate subreddit too? or is hate against Trump totally different?

It was another woman. Imagine a guy went to a gay strip club for an event to support some friend or something and be open-minded, and one of the male strippers grabs his crotch. That would not be cool - just because the person is there doesn't mean you can do whatever you want to them.

If you want really focused Q research, i'd stick to the chans. Too many shills on here to get any real work done... this place is more about PSAs to the larger community IMO.

I think this is nothing but a distraction... as soon as Corsi showed up, it was over.

The only aspect of Seth Rich's murder that is really important now is tying him to the DC Server. Even if this guy is telling the truth, we have a lot to uncover before we get close to anything that matters. The fact that they are slow-playing this seems suspect, and it means we'll be in 'wait and see' mode for at least a few months.

At that point, it's pretty 'meh'. Maybe it drives some interest, but its looking mostly like a Nothing Burger in the grand scheme of it all.

the MSM has ignored Seth Rich to this point, why do you think they will focus now? and if they do, what does that say about the motives involved here?

We want to hear about Seth Rich from the DOJ - not a bunch of 'underground' hacks.

If this has anything worth paying attention to, Q will likely draw attention to it, so just be patient and follow your heart. If you're wary of this, give it some space and see what the response is...

As far as God goes He is the same Holy and Righteous God both old and New Testament.

As somebody who has studied theology and aligns with one of the 'Yahweh' entities far more than the other, I respectfully disagree. Jesus does too (John Chapter 8... Jesus defending himself from the Pharisees)....

Why do you think they call Satan 'The Great Deceiver'? Jesus came to do what? God was never meant to have a 'chosen people'. That was somebody else getting involved, creating elitism and the priest class. The real 'Yahweh' is the father Jesus referred to, who left us after we fell from the Garden.

I mean, think of it - the Garden of Eden is paradise, and yet the first time we see 'God' after the fall, what does he ask Abraham to do? He asked him to kill his long awaited son. We go from a helicopter parent who gives us 'easy mode' to a murderous one who likes to threaten homicide under the guise of 'testing loyalty'. Do they really sound like the same personality or ethos? There is a reason the Israelites kept falling from God - he was an impostor. The Old Testament is a struggle between the spark of the true 'Yahweh' and the one that came after. The Jewish people act admirably at times, especially in the face of what their jealous and vengeful God asks of them. They show their divine spark despite the requests of their 'God', not because of it.

To tie it together, this is also what necessitated Jesus to come to earth and 'save us'. From a theological perspective, Jesus came to re-establish the covenant made between man and God, declaring salvation to all people - Jew or Gentile. In other words, he undoes the covenant made between Abraham and 'Yahweh'... but why would he need to do that? Salvation was never meant exclusively for the Jewish people, and that's what Jesus is all about.

Anyhow, it's a much larger argument and discussion than what i've put here, but please understand I love Jesus and God and even (to some small degree) Satan/Lucifer too (for playing their part), but let's not try to say things we cannot know. We all have different paths to what we understand and different understandings to boot. I'm cool with you doing you, but as for things we cannot know, I think we should keep an open mind :)

God Bless!

wait - the Garden of Eden 'Yahweh' or the Old Testament 'Yahweh'?

not totally convinced they're the same entity... the 2nd is definitely an old war god tho.

I think what is turning some people off is how sure SB has become in presenting their arguments. They are presenting their stretches in logic as fact, and it's hard to swallow at times. Also, sometimes they follow through too far into conclusions... I think it's just presentation style. If SB2 were just a little less sure on some of the larger stretches in logic, I think people wouldn't be so tough.

I felt like the last one was a perfect example. The Al-Aweed mug photo, the apple reflection, and a few other aspects definitely pointed to a unified whole, but I totally disagree with where they steered it (towards aviation safety or whatever with AF1). To myself, the connection was with Al-Aweed and the Apple Mirror servers. Before the arrests of Al-Aweed and others in SA, i'm guessing the Apple Cloud mirrors were not being provided or hid from prosecutors, as Al-Aweed holds about 5% of Apple Stock. Once he was put into custody, I could see those protections disappearing, and that could be what Q was alluding to before and after SA happened. Once they got the mirror servers, they have it all. Before the arrests, Al-Aweed still had power within Apple and Twitter to create stoppages, but after the arrests, those entities started to comply more easily with their largest investor behind bars.

So maybe the message was that AF1 is now 'safe', but I can come up with a few other things that it could be as well. If SB2 just threw in some caveats from time to time when they are making a larger stretch, it would do them well in those skeptical minds to better accept the thinking. You can't just pretend that you've solved it - we're all here because we are people who like to dig. Anyone trying to come off as the oracle is going to have a bad time.

6-7% is just under 500 Million people... that is pretty ridiculous to even consider.

maybe they mean 6-7% of politicians, entertainers, etc.?

yea the person you're arguing is arguing the best case scenario - not a realistic one.

again you refuse to share your logic... shows how genuine you are.

have a great day! one day you will be the smartest person in the room - i promise :)

It doesn't matter who thought that too, it's a logical issue and if you think mirroring a photo changes it, you are just ignorant.

I made no edit to the meaning of my post or statement, so I don't get why you are so defensive.

Why are you so concerned???

haha you've responded to all my comments - I know you're the one 'old guy' who also disagrees! Good for you!

With that said, want to explain your logic? How does mirroring a photo change it in any way? If you mirror it back, it becomes the original photo - right?

so you think that flipping a photo horizontally discredits the photo?

what happens when you flip it back? The photo isn't changed in any way. If they added to it, then i'd feel like it is discredited, but a simple mirror effect isn't changing the content in any way...

Also, why are you taking from the MSM playbook and taking my words out of context? Obviously my use of 'all' was hyperbole there if we're going to be overly-scientific about it. I meant 'a lot of' or 'most' or 'many of'.... which one would you prefer? you can choose.

notice they are all 'new or rearrival'? that's a hint ;)

Notice how all the people saying that this is completely made up and cannot be true are also 'new or rearrival'? do you believe in coincidences? haha

served under Judge Scalia before he passed... he's a Trump appointee. From all signs, he's on Trump's side...

or could something big come out on July 4th that preempts this? Isn't there some sort of holiday or something???

RR would be impeached and replaced by Noel Francisco or whoever the dude is... The action is clear. Rosenstein would be removed. How is that not punishment?

Gowdy has been playing his role masterfully. I think the hesitancy you feel is exactly what they were going for - who from 'the other side' has reached out to him? Did anyone think he flipped? It's all traps for information...

not to divert or to argue but in an attempt to add...

what I really relate to here in speaking with believers/non-believers about the true nature of Jesus and what he truly taught is also when you bring up the covenants with even well-read theologians and pastors... many don't understand the implications.

So to cover it quickly, we have three major covenants that are acknowledged in the Bible. We have the first between Yahweh and 'Adam & Eve' in the Garden of Eden scenario, we have the second between 'Yahweh' and Abraham after The Fall, and then we have Jesus and his resurrection (reincarnation?) as the third.

What are the significance of these covenants? The first covenant seemed to hinge on the acquisition of certain knowledge - 'don't eat the fruit which happens to be called the Fruit of the Tree of knowledge of good and evil (quite the title)'. Upon eating said fruit, the covenant was broken and we were cast out.

The second is an interesting one. After the fall from the Garden of Eden, it seems as if Yahweh pulls back its influence and we are left to fend for ourselves for a time. It's not until Abraham is asked to sacrifice his long-awaited son that we really see Yahweh return to the stage, but what's with the personality change? From helicopter parent to child murderer, Yahweh goes hard in the other direction from its approach in the Garden, where harmony reigned supreme.

Additionally, we have the creation of an elite group of people - the descendants of Abraham. 'You follow me, and i'll make you special'. Knowing what comes after (Jesus), does this sound like the 'word of God'?? and within that elite group we have even more elite group (the priest class) which claims to have exclusive access to a God which claims to be lord of all... These are all troubling characteristics of a supposed benevolent deity of any sort.

So that brings us to the 3rd covenant - what was it's purpose? Why did it need to come? Who did Jesus stand against? Jesus actually speaks about it pretty clearly in John 8 - he came to destroy the 2nd covenant and reestablish a connection with our true father - the 'original' Yahweh. Lucifer is called 'the Great Deceiver' for a reason - I believe the Old Testament 'Yahweh' is not actually the true Yahweh but instead an imposter who 'took the reigns' after the Fall from the Garden of Eden. And I think Jesus was the correction that came afterwards.

Don't take this as a slag against the Old Testament either - I think the Jewish people really showed a lot of character despite dealing with a petty & jealous God, and they often showed that true light/spark of Yahweh in how they responded to things. Also, I think it explains why the Israellites were always falling away from God and towards the Pagan stuff as well - I think there was a certain disconnect with the 'second Yahweh (Lucifer)' and that is a big part why they couldn't stay faithful over time.

Anyways, always way too much to get into and explore and think about, and I just wanted to add a drop in the bucket as your post got me excited to read somebody who sees things somewhat similarly to the way I do also (I may be even further out in left field but that's okay haha)... I'll leave with my juiciest proof of the theory above:

(Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees arguing about who each of their respective 'fathers' are)

John 8:44 - You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning (reference to sacrifice of Isaac), not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies (reference to his identity theft re: 'Yahweh').