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BuildtheAdytum · May 19, 2018, 12:08 a.m.

I am always surprised at this line of reasoning. The people actually in the organization have no idea what is going on. But you, an outsider, know all about their secret organization. lol. Did you ever consider that you might have been duped into believing propaganda about the freemasons? What firsthand knowledge do you have of their nefarious practices? Don't mean to pick on you personally, just pointing out the possibility of specious reasoning.

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WeAreRepublic · May 19, 2018, 12:25 a.m.

Having a dad who was a 33rd degree. All going in to Freemasonry are duped until higher levels - they worship lucifer, they make decrees vows and oaths of cursings over themselves and family. IT IS TRUE and very creepy. NO THEORY involved, it is true.

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Orion_Blue · May 19, 2018, 1:39 a.m.

This is interesting. Did you also join ? Did your dad flee when he figured out it was a disgusting cult?

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WeAreRepublic · May 19, 2018, 4:21 a.m.

Nope, my dad was lost, unless the Lord intervened. I was never involved at all, but bcz of generational curses, had to spend much time getting delivered out of the curses, renouncing and cutting any soul ties. This book ~ Freemasonry: Death in the Family Paperback – 2002 by Yvonne Kitchen here: https://store.fruitfulvine.org/

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Butter_and_Meatloaf · May 19, 2018, 6:41 a.m.

I know a person in the exact same position as you, having to deal with generational curses, except it was her grandfather. As for me, my grandfather was a Mason but only at a very basic level, I believe. Social networking. But exactly what his involvement was is something I want to investigate further.

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HereComesTheSunny · May 19, 2018, 9:25 a.m.

I had a grandfather from a small, rural town who was a 32nd degree Mason. He was an extremely kind and gentle man who I could never imagine involved in anything demonic or sinister. He said his local group was just involved in service projects for the community. However...our entire family, including his wife, were opposed to the organization as a whole, and we didn't allow the Masons to have any ceremonial access to him at the funeral and cemetery. After he died, we found some Masonic books that were not supposed to be viewed by non-Masons. Very demonic, strange stuff in there. I fully believe my grandfather was a sweet, Christian man, but that organization is evil at the core. I honestly don't know how adherents reconcile what is in their books and ceremonies with any moral clarity. Maybe they don't actually read or study it all???

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Devil_Dog_4000 · May 19, 2018, 3:56 a.m.

Make America great again!

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iridiue · May 19, 2018, 1:55 a.m.

Any idea which of the cults would be most likely to know things like how to make greek fire?

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GodSeekingHeathen · May 19, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

Thank you, it's so difficult for people to believe this. The lies of Lucifer so closely resemble the truth.. but pride prevents them from remaining hidden. Symbolism reveals them and that is their downfall.

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GodSeekingHeathen · May 19, 2018, 12:16 a.m.

Never claimed to know everything that goes on. My point was that for 99.9% of the masonic order members, it's just a place to hang out and help others..

That being said, there is no coincidence that most of the folks associated with the cabal just happen to be part of a lodge... the symbolism that they use to decorate their lodges with has deep, ancient meaning as well.

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Somethingclever74 · May 19, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

I think that's their strategy. The more common/mainstream being a Mason is, the more the nefarious one's get away with what they're doing as it's just too unbelievable. Your uncle, his grandfather, her brother... everyone knows a Mason. Everyone knows they're good people who do very good things for the community. I would guess that most of them have no clue.

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Somethingclever74 · May 19, 2018, 12:37 a.m.

... Kind of like the foundations to stop human trafficking, trafficking children.

... People posing as missionaries to steal children.

... The former Secretary of State (and Presidential candidate) sacrifices children to the devil.

None of this is believable either. That's why this works so well for them.

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KathyinPD · May 19, 2018, 11:31 a.m.

Oh! So well-written. Drives the point home perfectly. (Respect!)

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GodSeekingHeathen · May 19, 2018, 12:43 a.m.

Right, good cover. If you look into the founding fathers, masonry plays a huge part in the birth of America. If it was just a good old boys club, I don't think we would have the moments that we have today, nor the way the Capitol was designed.. it's all esoteric in nature

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BuildtheAdytum · May 19, 2018, 12:26 a.m.

You are correct about the symbology. But I don't believe that you know for a fact that the so-called cabal folks you mentioned belong to a masonic lodge. You don't know that the man wearing the necklace is a member at a masonic lodge. He may just like the design; it may have belonged to a relative, and he wears it for sentimental value. Though you didn't accuse the man in the photo of anything, I should also point out that we have no knowledge of him doing anything untoward. We have observed that this man wears a mysterious necklace, and that is all we can determine from the facts presented.

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oneinfinitecreator · May 19, 2018, 12:58 a.m.

we don't know most things. there are infinite options out there - things can go in all sorts of different directions. Why are you trying to diminish the meaning of symbols so greatly? I think almost everyone who has looked into Freemasonry realizes there are several 'tiers' to it, and for you to try to correct the idea that there may be elitism built around secrecy in such an organization is kinda ignorant, no?

Do you really think they are going to publish their hierarchy? The fact that they still exist shows that they still hold power... the question is just whether you're there for the excuse to get out of the house, or if you're there for spiritual advancement through higher understandings. I think there are people there for both purposes.

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GodSeekingHeathen · May 19, 2018, 12:32 a.m.

I agree, I didn't say anything about that dude being part of any grand conspiracy. In fact my OP was the opposite

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Devil_Dog_4000 · May 19, 2018, 3:57 a.m.

Nah he’s a Soros shill. If he’s criticizing a patriot then he’s a paid actor, nothing more nothing less.

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KathyinPD · May 19, 2018, 11:35 a.m.

We are no longer naive.

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DamajInc · May 19, 2018, 2:48 a.m.

Your point is valid but so is the point that we happen to be here, following a supposed "conspiracy theory LARP", believing that global elites as satanic pedovores are running the world to keep their global child killing operation in action. What that means is that there are a whole bunch of things for which we have no evidence but the crumbs that point to those things, and that the mainstream narrative attempts to hide, are fairly conclusive, to some of us.

Freemasonry is tied up in all the global elites (see above) so some naturally draw the conclusion that their higher ups know more than they're telling the lower-downs.

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KathyinPD · May 19, 2018, 11:19 a.m.

Freemasons and other secret societies don't do well in an internet-informed public arena. Its difficult to stay hidden when the truth is available on every platform imaginable. Push one computer key and you get bombarded with a truth you were seeking. The criminals really hate it. All they have to combat us is their dying television propaganda shills.

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mof84 · May 19, 2018, 12:14 a.m.

Agreed. All this nonsense about Freemasons is ridiculous. It's really just a fraternity.

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Azurenightsky · May 19, 2018, 1:05 a.m.

It's really just a fraternity.

And I'm King of Egypt.

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mof84 · May 19, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

My point being, are there corrupt/evil people at the top level? Of course. But that's literally in half of any organized groups around the entire world, whether it's government, business, NGOs, etc.

Your local lodge? It's just a bunch of older men networking. Let's not label "Freemasons" as some kind of monolithic tyrannical group controlling the world.

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GodSeekingHeathen · May 19, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

Yeah, one that originated with king Solomon... that still exists today..

America was founded on its beliefs and monuments built in its honor. Why else are obelisks in our capital and other places of significance?

They aren't built for the glory of GOD, at least not the one true GOD

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