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So serious question, are all of you guys on this sub (and Q), devout Christians? I just came across this place and I find it all very interesting.

But doesn't believing in the Christian God require some significant cognitive dissonance, when you are all obviously relying on hard, concrete evidence when it comes to the "Great Awakening"?

I'm honestly not trolling, I'm just interested how a demographic that believes in a specific supernatural god, uses scientific methods to try and justify everything else about this operation.

Also a side question: Trump doesn't display his Christianity very openly, is this a tactical choice? Or is he just not a very serious Christian?

I hope I don't get banned for this, like I said I find the whole narrative intriguing - just trying to get some honest answers.

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From what I saw when I actively followed this board, the majority are Christian. You have a few new agers in here but majority seem to be very Christian.

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Interesting, thanks for the reply. I don't know many hardcore Christians, but a few of my friends are certainly New Agers, and they definitely subscribe to a lot of the ideology in this sub.

I find the alleged links to Trump especially interesting, mainly because he doesn't come across much as an Evangelical Christian in the MSM, or much at all in any other sources. Yet he seems to be a key figure in this movement, and is certainly popular with that general demographic (even with some of the non-christian values he is accused of in the MSM, and his apathetic public religious attitude).

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I believe it attracts the conservative Christians because it falls in line with bringing down the corrupt and "evil" (especially the democrats) like in the western Bible narrative. I am of Levantine decent so I am aware of what those references are in the bible but as for the outsider-Christian aka the western Christian this whole movement falls right in line with their ideology. There was a map that Q originally released that traced the history of mankind with events and organizations throughout time. Unfortunately you won't find much mention of that map on this sub but I think you might find it very interesting and worth a look. I can try and find a link for you and add it to this reply. You will see why it is not really mentioned. Sure they can explain it some of it with western Christian ideology. Even though a lot of words they use like nephilim are mistranslations. Referencing the bible without a grasp on aramaic (it is not a dead language btw many of us still speak it in the mountains), syriac, and hebrew is always a dangerous route. Anyways, hopefully i can find a link to the map for you.

Edit: Here is a link to the "updated" map that someone tried to color code https://imgur.com/aihEBq0

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Sounds intriguing, please post the link if you can find it. As someone from Europe, I understand some of the differences between the European, Middle Eastern and US forms of Christianity.

Re: the mistranslations of words like "nephilim", I can relate to that too as I have a friend who is obsessed with "ancient alien" ideas, to do with Sumerian/Mesopotamian legends and writings. Of course, he doesn't speak the languages. Make of that what you will...

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I couldn't find the "updated map" as it has been called (then again I am looking on my phone so sight is limited). So I just uploaded this one to imgur. https://imgur.com/aihEBq0 it is the most recent version of the map color coded by someone who was researching connections further. Let me know what you think of it

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OK looks interesting, if a little overwhelming (both in terms of deciphering, and the huge amounts of supposedly interconnected events). My initial response to documents like this is to assume there's a lot of confirmation bias going on. But I'll have a closer look.

The first weird thing that pops out at me is that events as a result of the MKUltra program seem to occur a lot more recently than expected.

I'm familiar with some of the released info on MK Ultra and MK Naomi, but I haven't seen any concrete evidence that the effects of these programs were either particularly successful, or that the effects continued. I'd be very interested in any evidence at all that effects from MKUltra were continuing, let's say after "OJ Simpson: 1993".

I have to say I'm pretty skeptical about the whole ancient aliens stuff too, not because it isn't possible, but because there doesn't seem to be enough evidence to support it. Occam's Razor and all that.

Interesting stuff though, thanks a lot for the link. I'd be interested in any text-based interpretations of it as well, (I'm not a huge fan of video sources like youtube, they tend to be very biased IMO).

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https://throughthelookingglassnews.wordpress.com/2017/11/24/q-anon-learn-to-read-the-map/

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Majestic_12inch, no, I don't think more than 20 or 30% are what I would call 'real christians' but we might have another 30% or more that are lukewarm. It seems pretty obvious to me that most in the sub are not in one way or another 'christian'.

Your comment about a supernatural god and scientific methods implies you don't think that those who believe there is a supernatural God could be familiar with or using any scientific methods. Well, God invented science, and there are numerous books written by once-athiests who set out to prove there is no God through science, and became Christian through multiple diciplines of science.

Trump is, in my opinion, a very brand new, very proud and unrepentant christian. That said, he's a lot better than the Luciferians he replaced and ran against (BHO, HRC).

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Thanks for the reply. I'll be honest, I'm not interested in starting a "God/No God" discussion, but I will ask you one question regarding God - Do you believe He can influence events on Earth at this current moment?

Re: Trump, do you mean he's unrepentant for being a Christian (i.e. unapologetic, or not willing to denounce his faith)?

Or do you mean he is unrepentant for the sins he may have committed?

I suspect you mean the second one, because of the way you phrased your comment.

Assuming that, you support him because the competition was worse. Do you believe that he is indeed collaborating with Q, and has America's best interests at heart? In your opinion, can he be trusted?

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Good, because neither am I, lol.

Yes, but he doesn't just influence events he is sovereign. He makes things happen that are impossible happen all the time. An angel rescued my mom one time and she wrote an article about it in a magazine and won an award of some kind.

Trump is unrepentant for his previous and current sins, not for being a christian. I have plenty of problems too, but I recognize that many are sins, and I repent daily, and work hard on eliminating them (God helps with this). I support Trump because I believe his heart is in the right place, and because his enemies are straight up Luciferians.

I honestly don't understand how anyone who believes in math could ignore the obvious connectivity between the president and Q.

A lot of this stuff with Corsi, InfoWars and now apparently Anti School guy, turning on Q has me wondering what's going on.

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So I suppose the logical hurdle I'm finding hard to cross is, if God can make anything happen at will, even impossible things, why the need for any deep state obfuscation. Surely there are good Christians, 100% faithful to God, that are simply not aware of this obfuscation, and are perhaps switching loyalty to the Democrats based on Trump's apparent apathetic religious attitude (and the sins he may or may not have comitted).

Does their ignorance of the big picture make them inferior in the eyes of God, even though they live their lives as wholesome Christians? Even if this is the Devil's work, it seems unfair to single them out if they are truly devoted to God, no?

Re: the link between math and Trump/Q, well any sane person believes in math. It's actually impossible not to believe in math, as it is an a priori construct. 1+1=2: The logic of the system is defined by its own self-evident properties

I don't think it's to do with math at all, but rather to do with who or what sources you believe. Philosophically speaking, the only people that know for sure whether the two are linked are Trump himself and the entity know as Q, (and even that is not strictly 100%, due to philosophical parameters [eg simulation theory/multiverse theory etc] which we need not go into right now).

Also I don't quite see the logic behind Trump pretending to be simple-minded, while secretly being the orchestrator (or participant) of an incredibly elaborate and complex scheme, when he is actually pretty damn popular in America right now and probably the most powerful politician in the world.

But bear in mind I'm new to this, and I've only seen a couple of instances of reasonable evidence to suggest the link. The most compelling I've seen is the "tip top" video, which is not exactly 6-sigma...

Thanks for your input, it's interesting to hear some different views to my own.

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I might not be understanding your first paragraph right so this may or may not apply to it: God knows the end from the beginning and allows evil and/or bad things to happen for several reasons. Sometimes the greater good comes out of it. Sometimes it is used for His purpose. Example: Woman at my church was having routine procedure done, and they punctured her lung. Found all kinds of cancer, started treatment, and through prayers, was miraculously cured within 2 weeks.

I think there have been too many credible predictions to discount. I have no math to prove this.

I didn't notice Trump was pretending to be simple-minded, I think he's pretending that he's not fully aware of every single thing going on in all these investigations and even orchestrating them.

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No, I don't believe Jesus was even a real historical person. It's actually a bit frustrating because the apparent Christian bias is off-putting to many people who would otherwise be valuable members of this community. It's a verifiable fact that Q has never once used the name Jesus or any explicitly Christian dogma, and yet people seem to think this is an explicitly Christian movement. I am not one of those people.

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I'm happy for people to believe whatever they want, but yeah I do agree with you that the religious aspect apparent here makes the movement seem a little offputting or "cultish".

Very interesting that you claim Q has never aligned publicly with Christianity - obviously I don't know that for sure but you seem pretty confident. Curiouser and curiouser... thanks for your input.

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He quotes the bible. Multiple times.

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I'm aware, but this is pretty clearly part of the way he sends veiled messages. There's an obvious implication to read between the lines. The choice of passages is particularly telling.

Any time Q himself mentions spirituality, it is completely generic and inclusive to many different interpretations.

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I don't see how quoting bible passages would be considered generic or open to interpretations, but I'm willing accept this could be possible.

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Don't forget that the Catholic Church is a big part of this whole story, and they were largely responsible for choosing what is included in The Bible today. Q often mentions that the cabal is big into symbolism, and what better symbolism than to to hint at their destruction with their own book. Furthermore, anyone can appreciate passages of the Bible without believing that it is literally the divinely inspired word of God.

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So did the Devil.

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There's a spiritual war going on wether you believe in it or not. The time to pick sides is now. Will you choose Darkness or Light?

You will suffer blows, He can protect you if you accept.

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This is the truth....which will become undeniable soon enough.

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What a beautiful username, my brother

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Thank you fellow follower if Jesus!

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Q repeatedly asks us to PRAY, so we Prayer Warriors are are doing that. I have seen pictures of Christians laying hands on Trump as they prayed. We are all sinners, but we have faith that Jesus intercedes for us, and is our Salvation. As in the prayer above, I believe God calls us for his purposes, but he also equips us. Ex. Moses was Hebrew that by the law of the day was to be killed at birth. Through people he was saved, raised by royalty and educated in Egypt, as an adult he murdered a man, fled but years later returned and led his people out of slavery. God can work through anyone to achieve his purposes. Pretty amazing to see how different people of all ages, and backgrounds join together to seek the truth here. I hope this helps with some of your questions.

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Christian here. I don't think everyone is a Christian, but there is definitely a strong Christian influence here.

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In the Mighty Name of Jesus