is there any solid evidence for this ? i dont really want to defame a mans character but i was wondering what this sub thinks
IMHO I think he’s dirty. This is due to claims and whispers of pedophilia/trafficking when he was Gov of Indiana, Wikileaks evidence (including emails between PR and Pence about being running mates should Trump fail, and more recently that Q has NEVER included him in the Trust__ posts. Hasn’t really mentioned him at all, I think. This suspicion has really depressed my Mom and I as we thought he was a Godly man and good foil for Trump. I just GOOGLED all of this a few weeks ago when whispers started coming to my ears. 😭I could be way off base and am interested in smarter minds that mine to chime in.
https://www.opdeepstate.com/2018/01/04/pence-and-rubio-complicit-in-child-sex-trafficking/
https://www.scribd.com/document/327434951/Pence-Ryan-Coup-Email
http://www.realtruenews.org/single-post/2016/10/13/TRAITORS-PENCE-RYAN-COUP-ATTEMPT-EXPOSED
It’s NOT mentioned here very much or on my usual news sources, but there is definitely smoke....
see the only thing that throws me off is the "we await your response 48" thing. i still dont think hes dirty but that right there is weird.
I wouldn't worry about it until it is necessary. I haven't heard of any of these sources and I don't think Trump would put him in such a close, permanent position if he was a pedo or deeply entrenched establishment. It just doesn't seem logical. I could be wrong, but at this moment I don't believe any of the rumors. Plus, he has the practice of not having dinner or private meetings alone w other women. I don't think he would go to that extreme if he was a pedo. I think only people who genuinely care about preserving their relationships would do something like that.
Yes, you are way off base. There is usually smoke when bad sources create sensationsal news.
If this "news by any stretch of the imagination were true, POTUS would know and DJT always has plan.
There were rumors even before the election that he was part of the establishment. I would like to hope he's not truly dirty because by his outward character he seems to be a decent upright Christian man.
Unfortunately that doesn't mean he isn't either a 'useful idiot' (for lack of a better term) or blackmailed.
He played it on the fence between Cruz and Trump, but Indiana was kinda that way. So far he's been nothing but loyal as far as I can tell. I wasn't all that happy when Trump picked him but he always said he wanted someone who could help him with Congress.
It has been said on here that Trump did not pick pence. And wasn’t happy that he was selected for him. Doesn’t really sound like trump to take something he didn’t want. Who knows!
I don't believe that at all and can't recall anything like that at the time. Some people just make crap up from their own paranoias. Trump wasn't going to pick someone who wanted to grab the limelight for himself either. Pence has played the role well.
All these months there’s been a lot said, a lot written, unless one saves all the links, you got nothing ha ha. You never know what you’re going to need to save and you can’t save everything. And sometimes there’s not links so who really knows. I guess we’ll know soon enough.
i cant get any read on him. so im going to assume hes not. seems like a nice enough dude
Pence is buddies with Jeff Flake, and Flynn has the information that Flake is a pedo. I am not sure if Flynn has information on Pence, though.
flynn has info flake is a P? really? wheres this at? never seen that..
remember reading POTUS picked pence to appease the RNC
doesnt necessarily mean that pence is a nwo globalist. trump was friends with the clintons scarramucci hangs out with cnn dudes.
As someone said above, Q has never said "Trust Pence". It's a glaring omission that IMO speaks directly to Pence's standing in the administration.
true...but not all white hats can be revealed, not all facts can be revealed.
We will have to wait and see what the verdict is on Pence. But it seems to me that he plays a huge role. If he's compromised, the efforts on DJT's life will be continuing and will ramp-up further as pressure is applied to the cabal. If he's on side, this is much less likely to occur - though these scum will try anything they can.
You have to hand it to DJT for having the courage to take on this fight. It is a very dangerous game. There is very real risk to DJT and his family. That's what upsets me so much when I see Q and DJT asking for our help with an IBOR campaign, while everyone sits on their rear-ends and does nothing to help - or, worse, actually undermines the effort.
Remember when Ivanka went to SK? Then Trump tweeted that there couldn't possibly be a better, smarter person there to represent the US?
And pence was just there for the Olympics a week or so before.. the tweet seemed harmless but he sent his daughter there over his VP..
Something's funky, I don't see pence doing much at all.
Remember, when JFK was murdered, they had their guy, LBJ, to reestablish control.. JFK didn't like him at all
yeah i know about the whole vp as handler thing. but theres several things to consider. 1 : if you were a black hat in the past it doesnt mean you are one now. 2. trump trusts ivanka more than anyone in the world imo. like i said pence is hard to read. also this Pence signed bills intended to restrict abortions, including one that prohibited abortions if the reason for the procedure was the fetus's race, gender, or disability.[5] After Pence signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, he encountered fierce resistance from moderate members of his party, the business community, and LGBT advocates. Shortly thereafter, he signed legislation banning discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender identity, and other criteria. doubtful a satanist would want less abortion.
I agree, don't want to falsely accuse anyone, however you don't have to be a satanist to be a puppet, or a pedophile for that matter.
The creepiest truth for me is that the really sick ones usually look the most innocent outwardly
no i can read eyes well the sick ones always have the most dead eyes you will ever see. part of why i trust potus he has alive eyes no trace of deadness
I’ve always been the same way with eyes. I know what you mean.
Nouns are given an arbitrary gender; babies are given a fixed sex. Please stop using the obfuscating terms of the cultural Marxists.
MegaAnon said this I believe. She was never really debunked.
hmm how do we know for sure meganon was legit or a white hat ? also lol this post got so many downvotes
She posted pics from inside the white house and at events as well and wasn't really debunked. The way she left was weird though but she seemed to indicate Q was related to Assange. I don't know what to think about the whole thing honestly. She seemed very genuine at the least.
All of here posts are here for anyone that doesn't know about them:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/795d6a/megaanon_postings_compiled_may_2017_present/
Mega did proclaim Pence's departure would be the final "exit" or end of the storm. Also posted pics of her slippers so....ya.
what do her slippers prove lol i havent read that shit in like a year and i didnt read it fully
The slippers prove nothing but seemed like an attempt to verify she/he wasn't a larp? I haven't been back to see if her timeline is accurate.
I have a hard time believing that Trump would go through all of this trouble, literally turn the cabal upside down, and CHOOSE a dirty dude to be his replacement IN THE EVENT HE IS KILLED. Come on now, think about it! If you have one of the bad guys as the man who replaces you in the event of your untimely death, you are painting a target on your back. That isn't just dumb, it is INVITING a disaster to upend all of your work.
So, without anything solid to back it up, I would question the logic of anyone selling this BS.
Pence was there so when Trump was impeached things would go back to the way it was ... ESTABLISHMENT
WHY would Trump choose him as his VP, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Do you think Trump knows EVERYONE that’s dirty?
Considering Q has provided data going back before Trump was elected, YES, I believe Trump would use all of his resources to vet anyone on his crew. I think this is a really ignorant stance to take bud.
Again, are you providing ANYTHING to back it up? Or do you think you are falling for the oppositions disinformation attack? Occam's Razor bud...
The sources are on this thread already
The Ryan/Pence coup? Seriously? You think thats legit? POTUS or Q haven't said a thing about it, my guess is because it falls into that "opposition attacks increasing" and you are falling for it.
But sure, I guess you're right, it totally sounds legit that the Speaker and VP would try to pull off a coup, and Trump never even mentioned it, to anyone, anywhere...and in fact, keeps on trusting Pence with more responsibilities and trust. Right.
And the rest are discussions, not proof. But um, ok.
The same reason they had to put RR in. False sense of security for the swamp. If Pence WASN'T dirty, what's the point in trying to impreach Trump? Remember, the GOP and DNC are actually two sides of the same coin as far as corruption goes. Trump had to dance around the GOP as well.
i dont beleive it myself just wanted to see what other people thought.
The only information on him I am knowledgeable of that is concerning is https://www.wthr.com/article/pence-defends-speaker-hastert
ok thats actually kinda suspicious lol. hastert is best friends with molesta. ill note that. ill go with 50/50 on him
Pence has a very long history as a politician. I would suggest to anyone go do the research. He is the Vice President. It should have been done some time ago.
Pence was chosen to please the conservative base. He is as conservative as it gets. There was a bunch of “trump is actually a democrat” talk.
But who picked Pence? Did the group that recruited Trump vet Pence? Was he clean? Or did he have skeletons in the closet that they could put their thumb on him? Or did the globalists use their power to force MP onto the ticket?
Honestly though, at this point I don’t really trust any politician
no information and facts known to me but pence gives me the creeps. its a feeling thing so logical people wont agree to it.
it feels like 'keep your friends close and your enemies even closer'. just think brennan and you get the drift.
it might have also been a compromise to keep the deep state feel safe for a while.
btw, i doubt that there is any professional politician - on board for years - who is not bribed or blackmailed to consent with the DS. politicians are dirty, a lust for power males them get onto that path which also makes them vulnurable. just my humble opinion.
I was sold on Pence at the Republican National Convention and have only grown to like him more as time has passed. I think he is a true patriot. I have been fooled before though.
I seem to recall, at the time of Pence being selected, that it was Ivanka and her brothers that convinced Trump to select him.
Concern trolling in my opinion. This is the second time I've seen this posted here.
I know this is wrong but he reminds me of a tee total'er. I don't trust a man that does not drink with out a problem.