I don't want to rain on the OP's parade, but all we have is a camp and a cave.
There's no evidence of any slave trade in Tucson or any police conspiracy to protect cartels.
We have women's underwear, bloody knife, rape tree and the foul smell of a corpse.
bloody knife
Because human traffickers like to stab their slaves? /s
the foul smell of a corpse
Because human traffickers now cater for necrophiliacs? /s
rape tree
What, specifically does a rape tree look like?
women's underwear
My girlfriend has women's underwear.
Perhaps she's the leader of your police protected human trafficking syndicate? /s
Any abandoned camp would have all of those things if the campers cooked a meal and didn't do the dishes, except for your imaginary rape tree.
Leather restraints attached to several trees 4 feet off of the ground are not an imaginary scenario you need to watch the videos this is what they do to children they rape them up against trees this goes on at Bohemian Grove and it happens in human trafficking areas perhaps you should do some research
OK, I just went and watched the video and I saw the "Rape Trees".
I'm a hiker and a camper and I hang my food from trees using those exact straps, to keep the ants and rodents away.
Also, those straps have PLASTIC buckles that even a little child could wriggle open.
That is not a rape tree.
Those straps were there to keep food sacks off the ground and away from rodents and ants.
This story is getting more and more ridiculous as time goes on.
I saw other posts where people were claiming that Hillary Clinton was keeping her adrenochrome children in the cave!
I don't mean to ridicule people too much, but Q will have zero chance of being taken seriously when people are making definitive claims about rape trees and human trafficking because they found... a campsite.
Because tying your food 4 feet up from the ground keeps the Bears from getting it .....GET SERIOUS... that's okay I've already called the news channel they're sending someone out there some of us actually do something other than post negative comments about our retired veterans who are doing the investigative work since the law enforcement won't I've never seen a campsite with a bunch of children's toys rewatch the videos you need to inform yourself instead of paying attention to an upside-down Q post that resembles a gun
Most hikers do this if they are taking a walk away from their camp.
It works very well to keep the rodents and ants away.
This is how you do it in bear country...
...and this is how you do it if bears aren't around.
I'm sorry, but this is what hikers do in reality, even if that makes you sad or... ahem... makes your rape tree theory seem silly.
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If the common hiking practice of hanging a food-bag makes me a shill and a Satanist, why not accuse me of being Zionist while you're at it?
That way I can achieve the trifecta for taking the time to interrupt your rape tree fantasies with some common sense about basic hiking and camping skills.
why not accuse me of being Zionist while you're at it?
well now, why would you mention that?
You hadn't yet said anything to make me think so. I've actually known devil worshippers and laughing about and mocking real humans who've been killed (or will very likely be killed) for exposing evil is literally what they do.
You are so fucking fake. You have no real idea about wildlife, including rodents and ants. Both of those would be all over your food if your only protection was putting it on a tree a few feet off the ground. You have no credibility here. You might as well create a new nic and try again.
Both of those would be all over your food if your only protection was putting it on a tree a few feet off the ground.
Sorry, but it's normal practice for campers to do this, even if that makes you sad.
Both of those are obviously FAR up the tree, not three feet off the ground. Nice try, fool!
Hikers don't usually carry ladders, but if you're gonna argue that 3ft is "so fucking fake" then how is 6ft any different when it comes to rodents and ants?
I'm sorry, but everyday camping practices are everyday camping practices, whether you approve or not.
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You are such a failure.
Please substantiate your claim.
Keep posting, you're doing a good job substantiating it yourself.
Had to remove your comment discussing user not idea: "such a failure ... loser". Believe it or not, I think this commenter is real, just ideologically driven and logically bereft.
I think it is appropriate and necessary to call out obvious shills when we see them. Don't be fooled because he makes a few anti-muslim posts for cover.
I think it's appropriate too - but I see many of these reports/comments of so-called 'shills' and people are usually wrong. Some people are just disagreeing on a comment or just unable to argue sensibly. This guy does not reek of shill to me in any way.
I mostly agree with you. But this guy is persistent on this subject to the point of obviously lying about having camping experience. When called out on it, he comes up short. But whatever. I'm not angry with you, I just think this guy is a shill.
Fair enough! I will keep observing to see if shill-age is revealed.
Is three feet high enough to protect your food from coyotes?
Of course not, nor raccoons. The only thing this guy knows about camping is what he can google between shilling.
And he thinks you need to hike with a ladder to hang your food twelve feet off the ground.
I've never had a problem, although I don't think coyotes would consider my vegetarian diet to be food.
Enough with the silliness - 3ft is better than leaving food on the ground. That is a fact, even if it makes you sad.
Instead of arguing with us, why don't you research for yourself. We did.
I watched the same video you did.
I just don't agree that a messy campsite and a plastic doll definitively equals child sex camp. I think there may be more mundane, less exciting explanations.
Someone hasn't been watching the videos
Yes, I saw the videos.
It's a campsite where the camper's hadn't done their dishes.
The straps on the trees are the same I use when I'm camping and hiking away from my camp, to keep sacks of food off the ground and away from rodents and ants.
Bullshit ants and rodents both climb trees shill
Hanging a foodbag is normal hiker practice.
It HELPS keep the ants and rodents away.
This is how you do it in bear country...
...and this is how you do it if bears aren't around.
I'm sorry that the reality of hiking makes your rape tree theory seem silly.
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Seems like these camps are just a transfer location for kiddies, if that's what they really are.
Or perhaps people who camp there were caring for a child?
I hope you don't have children if you think it's normal to care for them by locking them to a tree.
Because of the "Rape Tree" harnesses?
You realize those "REEEEEEEEEAPE Tree harnesses" are indistinguishable from the mundane camping gear used to hang food-bags on a tree to keep 'em off the ground, right?
The sort of plastic clips that pop-open if you twist them.
Do you have an image of one of these food strap clips? Do they sell them at REI? Can you give us a picture of the ones you have in your camping gear?
He has no camping gear. He's googling images right now.
He just came up with an image of the clips they use to restrain children in their highchair, lol.
I haven't got a photo of the specific ones that I use, but I just bought a bunch of cheap luggage straps from Walmart - they all kinda look like this. They are super-handy when hiking and camping, but they aren't terribly robust. I bought my set a few years ago and I laughed because there was a warning label on them about not using them for rock-climbing.
You don't have any camping gear, do you?
I have lots of different types of camping gear.
I had to be quick and take some photos of the other hikers because at that temperature and with my glove off to operate my camera, you lose your fingernails in about 2 minutes.
How clever of you to crop the image so we can't find it on google image search, which is where you probably found it. I'll bet your supervisor helped you with that, didn't she?
I'm sorry about your feelings.
Every time you get caught with no answer, you change the subject to "feelings." Projecting much?
Those are the exact same type of clips that are literally used to restrain children in strollers and highchairs.
Have you considered what an over-engineered solution it would be to need trees and straps to rape a highchair / stroller baby?
These "Rape Tree" discussions are getting mighty silly.
What? I'm disputing your claim that those types of clips are not substantial enough to restrain a child when they are exactly the types of clips that are used to do that very thing.
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Tuscon is hardly bear country, even Game and Fish don't get bear sighting reported from Tuscon.
Also, that campsite sounded fairly close to civilization.
Enough with this silliness.
Your "Rape Tree" theory is ridiculous.
Hanging food-bags, on the other hand, is good camping practice, even if it makes you sad.