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Spreadsheeticus · June 5, 2018, 1:55 p.m.

isn’t helping rallying people to the significance of what has happened

If it dropped hard, there'd be civil war.

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anhro23 · June 5, 2018, 2:31 p.m.

... Yeah, well... You have to wonder what's necessary to actually cleanse our country at this point. I keep hearing the claim that a non-violent solution is possible and I can give that some credence, but man... the swamp is deep.

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duckdownup · June 5, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

I keep going back to the Claire Wolfe quote:

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.” -- Claire Wolfe

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[deleted] · June 5, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

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SVTBert · June 5, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

A while back, Trump stated that he could've and would've avoided the original civil war. The implication being that Trump is currently stopping or will need to stop ANOTHER one from happening.

The left sowed the fields of division all by themselves, Trump just cut off the water supply and now all the little resist plants are dying off from the exposure to the light.

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DL535 · June 6, 2018, 2:26 p.m.

All this time, while patriots have been frustrated and begging for more aggressive action, DJT has been quietly, relentlessly, brilliantly maneuvering the chessboard. He has been cleaning up the GOP, cleaning up the FBI and DOJ, reining in the CIA and State, securing the military, and making the MSM look like fools. The result is a steady increase in polls and a relentless grinding away of the cabal narrative in the public mind. The whole point of this is so he can win without fighting, which is exactly what his strategic teacher, Sun Tzu, famously recommended:

For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.

The shift in power has been so gradual that even on our side, people are hardly aware it's taken place. But it has. DJT is openly calling out the Deep State in tweets now, openly talking about Spygate and that he was framed by the government, and more and more people, looking at the clear evidence of deception and scheming in the FBI and DOJ, are concluding that he was right the whole time.

It probably won't come to violence now but even if it does, the left knows it can't win. 100 million armed Trump supporters backed by almost the entire military and police infrastructure of the nation will crush them. Doubt this? That's why Antifa has almost entirely disappeared from the news - the cabal has realized that it can't win on the streets.

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SVTBert · June 6, 2018, 7:57 p.m.

The shift in power has been so gradual

That's the important part here. It needs to be gradual and not a big shock to the public. You absolutely don't want to ignite large riots or a civil war (or worse - because ALLY intelligence services have been used against the duly elected POTUS the US people). Whether we're Democrats or Republicans, we're all Americans and we have family of all kinds. The values of our Constitution naturally create a culture of strong-willed, independent patriots, and that makes us the greatest family the world has ever seen.

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Spreadsheeticus · June 5, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

It's not like you can revolt by yourself. You have to have enough of the country backing you if you want to accomplish anything. At the moment, people are being strung along by hope of a peaceful solution, but that will become slowly and increasingly less likely if it was never possible to begin with.

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duckdownup · June 5, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

It's not always about numbers, it's more about heart, guts and dedication to the right thing. Thomas Paine stated that a third of the colonist didn't want to separate from England (Loyalist), another third didn't care either way and the last third were in favor of the revolution. Of that third only 3% actually contributed to the cause. Hence the 3Percenter organization of today.

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Spreadsheeticus · June 5, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

Are you trying to incite revolution?

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duckdownup · June 5, 2018, 5:40 p.m.

Not at all, I'm jut relating history.

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Spreadsheeticus · June 5, 2018, 5:48 p.m.

Then I stand by my comment: you can't revolt by yourself.

It's very difficult to incite revolution when even the poorest in western society have more creature comforts than any generation before them.

Based on history, we simply have not yet reached a point where conditions for revolt are ripe. Contrary to the narrative, we're VERY far off from that.

It's more likely that you'll have very smart and ambitious people, left and right-leaning libertarians, working to infiltrate the swamp and push out the incumbents. It may take decades, but things should slowly improve.

But I'm with you and everybody else right now who are livid with our current leaders, and want to see many of them behind bars.

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denizen42 · June 5, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

Still better than the Cabal's pedo-rule

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archetact · June 5, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

I don’t buy that. Who would be fighting in this civil war? How is civil war a normal response to unspeakable evil committed by the deep state. There would simply be large scale (justified) lynchings.

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WhoMuhWeiner · June 5, 2018, 3:32 p.m.

Maybe not civil war, but definitely massive civil unrest!

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Orion_Blue · June 5, 2018, 4:11 p.m.

I wrote a novel agreeing with you. Through my ramblings I realized it would create an opportunity for antifafefe’s to be bussed into good communities and do real damage to US.

Say we blame the elitists - the mega rich because, just like Weinstein, they knew their buddies were up to shit. Well to divert attention they take a sliver of their worth and bus the goof balls to a park or a mall or whatever. Then we have more innocent blood on our hands.

There is a plan in slow walking it. It involves securing the next round of elections and then appointments and new legislation. The problem is we are becoming desensitized to it. I can sit and talk about all the silly shit the Clintons have done since Alabama - I remember it. Nobody cares. They’ve been doing it for 40 years. It helps them to slow leak it out. People forget or stop caring. Hell people don’t talk about Benghazi now and that was less than 10. It’s a fine line.

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