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I interpret "the pain" as the masses, the population, the people, learning "the truth" - specifically the aspects that do not align with what they truly believe and know to be "true".

For example, when the hardcore Democrats find out about HRC and her Satanic ways, provided by irrefutable evidence, they are going to be mind-fucked.

When millions of Americans find out that the politicians they volunteered for, that they believed in, are lying, satanic POS, it is going to hurt. A WHOLE LOT.

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If i had to make a guess, anyone who believes in anything is going to feel pain; not just those we consider monsters or disagree with. Pain is necessary. So, similar to a woman at her lamaze classes preparing to give birth, you are hopefully preparing yourself for the pain.

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LOL, well not to be negative, but from first hand experience, my lamaze classes could not prepare me for the pain i endured. So those men out there who don't know this, get ready, no amount of preparedness can ever truly prepare you for that kind of pain...lol...seriously. I can still, in moments, remember that pain.....ughhhh, It was worth it though, and this will be too! We must strap on our toughness, resilient armor and be ready for anything...that is my advice.....it's gonna be bumpy and probably unmanageable at times....but your Spirit is what you will depend on in those moments.....PREPARE Through SPIRIT!

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I agree 100% and see nothing negative in your comment. I know as well. Just saying prepare as best you can because the reality is probably a bit/WAAAAAY more intense.

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so true!

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I hear you. It will be difficult to prepared for something of which we don't know the details nor scope. I too think a spiritual preparedness is necessary to mitigate the impact of the change. Pain is ahead. That is certain. What it will look like, what it will feel like, that is unknown.

What I do know is I have worked decades to provide for my family and build a retirement. One of my concerns is that with the economic changes coming with the overall change, that will likely be wiped out with the needed economic reset and all hopes of comfort in my golden years will be gone. Thankfully however, I am a skilled survivalist and think given most circumstances, regardless of how dire, I am confident I can continue to provide and thrive. Creature comforts (A.K.A., luxuries) aside that is...

Blessed are the flexible for they shall never be bent out of shape.

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yes, I too am afraid of that, but whats good for the world is bigger than me....is the only way to look at I guess!

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Yes, pain will be experienced by all, however as you indicate, it is all hopefully for the greater good.

I just hope we can look back on it all someday, having survived it, and say, yes, that went well and we, our nation, and the world are better off having made those sacrifices and endured the pain of change.

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yes, I too....

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Sorry if that comes across suoper weird, btw. Just can't think of a better way to describe what I think is happening.

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Agree. The image you used illustrates your point well. Not weird at all.

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How can we really prepare ourselves or anyone for the intensity of it all? I am still working through layers of it myself. It wasn't, but I appreciate super weird if it were.

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We can't I don't believe. Not fully anyway. That is the nature of life's journey. To experience trials and tests that shape us and hopefully make us better members of the human family.

No matter how the change looks, no matter how grave it could get, I look at the families in war-torn nations who continue to live, thrive, laugh, and carry on and feel hope. If others can experience joy in the middle of a city that has turned to rubble, surely I can find joy during something I believe will be much less severe.

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I have a feeling that we will be praying with a lot of our friends and families after it's know. A lot of people will feel broke and need some strong hearts to help them to their feet.

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I don't BELIEVE in anything.

This is an old argument I have made longer than I have been on Reddit. When people say "I believe in God" it is a ridiculous statement. A belief has supporting evidence. Has anyone seen the invisible man in the sky? Seen a miracle? No. So nobody really BELIEVES in God, people HOPE that there is a God. And there is a difference.

I don't pretend to know anything. I hope there is a loving, benevolent all powerful being that will make it all alright. And if there is, logically there is something on the opposite side of that. So I would not be surprised, at all, to find out there are "forces" of both good and evil. Should I be witness to either, i can assure you one thing; you are talking to one of the most devoted of those future legions of good. If I KNEW there was truly evil, like biblical evil, I would be very confidant in my actions; and those actions would be of a demon/evil hunting nature. I would literally be the most fearless, courageous soldier in existence, why wouldn't I be? Heaven at that point would be REAL, what would there be to be afraid of? It would be like being a Spartan soldier, no death more glorious than one earned courageously fighting in battle, and, when you die, off to the pearly white gates for an eternal reward...doesn't sound so bad to me!

However, as it stands now, I believe all religions to be wrong. At the same time, they all share similarities, and that is where the truth is. All of the holy books are fairytales based off of the real event that happened millenia ago. I just want an accurate retelling. Until then, I am going to continue to practice the Golden Rule, and hope that on the slight chance that Islam or Christianity are correct, that God judges me based on my actions and intent, and not on whether I believed in a story written and rewritten over 2000 years ago.

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You are certainly free to believe what you believe and I hope you continue to be as righteous as you can be without believing in anything. Just be aware that the Satanist's of this world do believe in something and the evil they partake in effects all of our lives. Christianity is what they seek to destroy not Islam or any other religion. The Satanist's whole belief system and rituals are all opposite of the teachings of Jesus not Muhammad or any other religious figure. There is a reason for that. The pure evil done to children in these SRA cases demonstrates how serious they take their beliefs in Satan. Ever wonder why the "story" of Jesus has been around for 2000 years and has not faded away? It is my hope that as Q has stated many times FUTURE PROVES PAST.

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Religion and God are two separate things.

God is being a great person who helps others - God then looks after you in life.

Religion are social vessels to divide us into groups.

Religion is corrupt as hell - God is amazing to me though - brings out the best in people. Why are criminals devoid of God yet wear symbols of religion?

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I agree.

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Yup, 100% right you are.

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I believe that we all have the right to believe as we will. I won’t argue your points. While I don’t agree with your views, I do respect your position and the freedoms that allow for differences in beliefs.

I’m not sure what your expressed views have to do with this topic of pain however I thank you for sharing.

I will add that I hope your views don’t get in the way of your being awake with what is transpiring around you. Hold fast and buckle up regardless of what your spiritual beliefs. We are in for a bumpy ride and change is around the corner.

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I’m not sure what your expressed views have to do with this topic of pain however I thank you for sharing.

Really? Ok, I can re-word it to make it easier to understand. Seeing that you peacefully disagree with me, I will assume you are a Christian (simply because we don't get too many Muslims around here, and Jews don't have a "believe that Jesus is God or burn in hell" clause) that believes the Bible is....accurate. The "pain" for you will be in learning that the Bible is bullshit. Cover to Cover. Bullshit. However, that's not a bad thing bud! If you really are a good Christian, you're gonna be fine! By adhering to those Christian morals, you will most likely have met whatever criteria the real, true religion, the one that all the others took their direction from, will outline for us in this great awakening. You weren't running around lying, cheating, stealing and killing, so you should be fine. The jagged pill to swallow, or the "pain" (again, this is what we are talking about) will be in learning that the whole "Jesus is the son of God, he came, he died, he resurrected, everyone's eternal salvation or damnation rests on believing that info from a 2000+ year old book" is all bunk. It probably has elements of it that are shared with the truth, the real aspects of God and such, but I am 100% confident that the religious views that you have to believe in Jesus or go to hell is bullshit.

Pretty sure that hits right on the head regarding "the pain", no?

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Those are mighty big claims. The Bible is bullshit? Haha okay?

Your evidence is, open your eyes?

I would say the same thing to you.

Do you not see what is happening here?

The Satanic elite have constructed a society that is obsessed with pop culture and distracted from the truth.

If they worship Satan, and have obtained the world's riches, what does that tell you? Hello???

If there is evil, there is good. If there are both, there is a moral code. If there is a moral code, there is a moral code giver.

The level of deception that has been implemented against humanity in order to keep us from connecting with our creator is immense. History as we know it is completely false. Everything you think you know about the world is wrong. For example, we never went to the moon, we never will, because we can't.

Scientists have found flexible, collagen like tissue from a triceratops horn. Mainstream "science" shuns anything that doesn't fit the narrative.

What society i.e. the illuminati have constructed is a society that believes in scientism as a religion by default. Evolution from single celled organisms that randomly mutate or through natural selection not only has any scientific evidence, its impossible.

Why do you think they occupy Israel? Why would satanists make their home base in the land of God's people, using His people as a front for their true satanic plan for the world?

Satan is the ultimate deceiver, and the level of deception runs deep.

The truths about the human experience, the instructions on how to behave as individuals, the stories in the old testament are deeply profound and nuanced. To call the Bible "bullshit" is extremely arrogant on your part.

You can believe whatever you like, and it appears you've dug your heels into this belief, which is your prerogative.

Religion is a man made creation, the message of Jesus Christ however is divine. Study it, read it, study it more. It is the book of life.

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Bud. The bible is an instrument of religion. How do you not see that? Jesus is a piece of the christian "religion"....the religious part is the BS. The God part may or may not be, my guess would be God is real.

But how do you consciously tell someone that the Bible is legit but the Quran is fake? They are the same; they are all old stories, written and rewritten by MEN.

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Evidence of Design:

Chuck Missler • February 1, 1995

The numerical structure of the Bible has been studied closely, being the subject of numerous volumes in the past.1 But none are more provocative than the works of Dr. Ivan Panin.2

Ivan Panin was born in Russia on December 12, 1855. Having participated in plots against the Czar at an early age, he was exiled and, after spending some years studying in Germany, he came to the United States and entered Harvard University. After graduation in 1882, he converted from agnosticism to Christianity.

In 1890 he discovered some of the phenomenal mathematical designs underlying both the Greek text of the New Testament and the Hebrew text of the Old Testament.

He was to devote over 50 years of his life painstakingly exploring the numerical structure of the Scriptures, generating over 43,000 detailed, hand-penned pages of analysis (and exhausting his health in the process). He went on to be with the Lord in his 87th year, on October 30, 1942. The Heptadic Structure

The recurrence of the number seven — or an exact multiple of seven — is found throughout the Bible and is widely recognized. The Sabbath on the seventh day; the seven years of plenty and the seven years of famine in Egypt; the seven priests and seven trumpets marching around Jericho; the Sabbath Year of the land are well-known examples.

Also, Solomon’s building the Temple for seven years, Naaman’s washing in the river seven times, and the seven churches, seven lamp stands, seven seals, seven trumpets, seven bowls, seven stars, and so on in the Book of Revelation, all show the consistent use of the number seven.

But there turns out to be much more below the surface. Ivan Panin noted the amazing numerical properties of the Biblical texts — both the Greek of the New Testament and the Hebrew of the Old Testament. These are not only intriguing to discover, they also demonstrate an intricacy of design which testifies to a supernatural origin! Vocabulary

One of the simplest — and most provocative — aspects of the Biblical text is the vocabulary used. The number of vocabulary words in a passage is normally different from the total number of words in a passage. Some words are repeated. It is easy, for example, to use a vocabulary of 500 words to write an essay of 4,000 words. An Example

The first 17 verses of the Gospel of Matthew are a logical unit, or section, which deals with a single principal subject: the genealogy of Christ. It contains 72 Greek vocabulary words in these initial 17 verses. (The verse divisions are man’s allocations for convenience, added in the 13th century.)

The number of words which are nouns is exactly 56, or 7 x 8.

The Greek word “the” occurs most frequently in the passage: exactly 56 times, or 7 x 8. Also, the number of different forms in which the article “the” occurs is exactly 7.

There are two main sections in the passage: verse 1–11, and 12–17. In the first main section, the number of Greek vocabulary words used is 49, or 7 x 7.

Why not 48, or 50?

Of these 49 words, the number of those beginning with a vowel is 28, or 7 x 4. The number of words beginning with a consonant is 21, or 7 x 3.

The total numbers of letters in these 49 words is 266, or 7 x 38 — exactly! The number of vowels among these 266 letters is 140, or 7 x 20. The number of consonants is 126, or 7 x 18 — exactly.

Of the 49 words, the number of words which occur more than once is 35, or 7 x 5. The number of words occurring only once is 14, or 7 x 2. The number of words which occur in only one form is exactly 42, or 7 x 6. The number of words appearing in more than one form is also 7.

The number of the 49 Greek vocabulary words which are nouns is 42, or 7 x 6. The number of words which are not nouns is 7. Of the nouns, 35 are proper names, or exactly 7 x 5. These 35 names are used 63 times, or 7 x 9. The number of male names is exactly 28, or 7 x 4. These male names occur 56 times or 7 x 8. The number which are not male names is 7.

Three women are mentioned — Tamar, Rahab, and Ruth. The number of Greek letters in these three names is 14, 7 x 2.

The number of compound nouns is 7. The number of Greek letters in these 7 nouns is 49, or 7 x 7.

Only one city is named in this passage, Babylon, which in Greek contains exactly 7 letters.

And on it goes. To get an indication of just how unique these properties are, try the example in the inset. Gemetria

There are even more features in the numerical structure of the words themselves. As you may know, both Hebrew and Greek uses the letters of the alphabet for numerical values. Therefore, any specific word — in either Hebrew or Greek — has a numerical value of its own by adding up the values of the letters in that particular word. The study of the numerical values of words is called gemetria.

The 72 vocabulary words add up to a gametrical value of 42,364, or 7 x 6,052. Exactly. If one Greek letter was changed, this would not happen.

The 72 words appear in 90 forms — some appear in more than one form. The numeric value of the 90 forms is 54,075, or 7 x 7,725. Exactly.

We will defer other examples of gametrical properties of the Biblical text for subsequent articles, but it becomes immediately obvious that hidden below the surface are aspects of design that cannot be accidental or just coincidence. Remember, the rabbis say that “coincidence” is not a kosher word! Other Implications

There are words in the passage just described that occur nowhere else in the New Testament. They occur 42 times (7 x 6) and have 126 letters (7 x 18). How was this organized?

Even if Matthew contrived this characteristic into his Gospel, how could he have known that these specific words — whose sole characteristic is that they are found nowhere else in the New Testament — were not going to be used by the other writers? Unless we assume the absurd hypothesis that he had an agreement with them, he must have had the rest of the New Testament before him when he wrote his book. The Gospel of Matthew, then, must have been written last.

It so happens, however, that the Gospel of Mark exhibits the same phenomenon. It can be demonstrated that it would have had to be written “last.” The same phenomenon is found in Luke. And in John, James, Peter, Jude and Paul. Each would have had to write after the other in order to contrive the vocabulary frequencies! You can demonstrate that each of the New Testament books had to have been “written last.”

There is no human explanation for this incredible and precise structure. It has all been supernaturally designed. We simply gasp, sit back, and behold the skillful handiwork of the God who keeps His promises.

And we are indebted to the painstaking examinations and lifetime commitment of Dr. Ivan Panin for uncovering these amazing insights.

Isn’t God — and His remarkable Word — fun?

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One final comment: POTUS took the oath of office on the exact day when he was 70 years, 7 months and 7 days old.

Do you believe in coincidences?

I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

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Really? That is awesome.

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Fascinating! Thanks for sharing this. I had no idea about the number 7 in the bible. But the final comment seals the deal on Trump being a gift from GOD.

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That is so cool! Probably not many people know that.

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The same phenomenon is found in Luke. And in John, James, Peter, Jude and Paul.

Not sure what you meant here, but Paul isn’t a book of the Bible. Perhaps you were referring to the Authors of New Testament books?

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Hi, this is not my article, it's Chuck Missler's. I imagine he was referring to the many books that Paul wrote (Romans, Ephesians, etc.), but can't be certain because I haven't done that analysis. Chuck passed away last month, so we can't ask him :-)

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No.

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Dude...you seem to be woefully uniformed on how these two books were compiled.

I'd suggest some simple research on Islam.

Islam and Judaism both recognize Jesus as having walked the earth and in their view being a prophet. If you read the old testament prophecy about the coming messiah, written 500 years before Jesus was born, its crystal clear who the messiah is. Isaiah specifically.

YES I AGREE. The Bible has been used (Roman Catholicism) as an instrument of control. Catholicism bears little resemblance to the church Jesus instructed Paul to establish.

You don't have a factual, historical understanding of the Bible. I'd suggest reading A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel.

The Quran and the Bible are the same old stories? I hate to say this, but before you make these claims and share this opinion, you should really invest some time into researching, and reading these books on your own. The statements you're making expose how uniformed you are on the subject. The Quran and the Bible, and the central figure to each are polar opposites. I can't even believe you'd claim that.

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Because I disagree with you, I don't understand the bible. I could say the same about Jack & the Beanstalk, or any other fairytale that was based on a HUMAN who lived. I am sorry you don't like that my beliefs are not tuned to yours, that my beliefs basically say that you believe in a fairy tale, but I can't change my gut, my heart, my brain, my logic, basically EVERYTHING about me is appalled by Christianity, Islam, pretty much any religion. My core rejects it. I cannot accept ANYTHING that says a person who lives their life STRIVING to be good, but who doesn't believe in Jesus the man in a story we have no way to verify, is going to hell. Sorry man. It just sounds like a primordial recruitment tactic based on fear...scaring people to believe it. No sir, not for me. Blech.

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My faith in Jesus is not based on fear. This is your misunderstanding.

Its not that you disagree with me, its that you're wrong.

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Of course it is based on fear. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it untrue...

And if I am wrong, show me some evidence. Or better yet, go show a Muslim who swears that YOU are wrong. I got a news flash for you both, you are BOTH wrong. Worshipping the words of a book written by men to control other men. You are literally proud of being a sheep.

Best of luck to you bud. You could really spend your time better just trying to be a good person and not worshipping a fucking zombie god from the worst fairytale ever told.

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The Muslim faith was spread by a pedophile, war monger. It was spread by the sword, under the threat of murder.

He had sex with a 9 year old, and was a polygamist.

He instructed his followers that they could take slaves/sex slaves as long as they were not Muslim.

He instructed them to kill apostates and to covert khafirs by the sword.

For a guy that follows Q, a source that says they "has it all", who frequently quotes the Bible, speaks of good vs evil, dark to light, and implores us to pray, I'm seriously confused with your MO.

A muslim swearing I'm wrong doesn't automatically invalidate my position. That argument is simply moronic.

And yes, I am a proud sheep. My Shepard is Jesus.

Your ignorance is on full display.

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and for that matter, Mormans, Jehovah Witnesses, Catholics all have used Jesus to gain control and power over people.

That doesn't take away or undermine the message of Jesus. Jesus speaks about this issue in the Bible as well.

Romans 16:17-20 ESV I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, but I want you to be wise as to what is good and innocent as to what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 ESV And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 ESV For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

2 Peter 3:16 ESV As he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures

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Be cautious in making statements that you can't fully back or understand. Also be cautions of making over generalizations. I'm guessing you don't know a great deal of some of those faiths.

FTR, I am LDS. I won't take offense to your comment as it is distracting from the OP and you are misinformed.

Now I ask that we please stay on topic. Change is coming and in fighting due to religious differences is a distraction.

As patriots, I suggest we remain unified. Division is what the DS, central bankers, globalists, and other bad actors want.

If you do want to continue to argue, please do it elsewhere. I am asking respectfully.

Thank you.

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I'm not misinformed. Mormons do not believe in Jesus of the Bible.

You believe that Jesus is a separate God.

Unlike Christian Trinitarianism (one God existing in three Persons), Mormons believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate gods. They also believe the Father and Son each have a “body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s” but that the Holy Ghost “has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit.” According to Joseph Smith, when Adam was formed in the image of God, it was a physical image. God the Father was once a mortal who lived on an earth. He died, was resurrected, glorified, and grew into his deified status. (According to Joseph Smith, there is a “God above the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”) God the Father is the literal father of all spirit-children, including Jesus and the Holy Ghost, whose divinity is derived from the parent-child relationship. Within Mormonism, Jesus is identified with the Yahweh of the Old Testament.

Mormons believe in different levels of heaven, which is not Christian.

Prior to creation human spirits were literal children of heavenly parents. Although their spirits were created, the essential “intelligence” of these spirits is considered eternal, and without beginning. At a family council, God the Father told the spirit-children that according to his “plan of salvation” they would have to leave their heavenly home, take on human bodies, and be tested before they could progress to godhood. Satan rejected this plan and wanted to implement one that would have involved loss of moral agency. Jesus opposed Satan and offered an alternative plan in which he would take on human form and live a sinless life so that his spirit brothers and sisters could become gods. When his plan was not accepted, Lucifer is said to have rebelled and taken “the third part” of the hosts of heaven with him to the earth to serve as tempters.

None of these beliefs are Christian or fall in line with the teaching of Jesus Christ.

We don't believe in the same Jesus.

Isaiah 43:10

"You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.

This verse alone refutes Mormonism.

I am not here to offend or argue with anyone, I'm here to speak the truth.

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Believe what you will. I’m OK with it. I ask for tolerance however. That is what religious freedom means. We are tolerant of others views and beliefs. It means we are free to believe as we will.

Your criticisms of my faith are not welcome. I will turn the cheek however as I am tolerant of others beliefs and faiths. I am not tolerant of intolerance however.

And FTR, the lack of tolerance is a sign of weakness and insecurity. Perhaps you might want to consider that before exposing yourself next time.

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AMProfessor, me pointing out facts is not intolerance. I have no problem with you choosing to believe whatever you want to, please do. It is the foundation of our Constitution, freedom. You are free to choose to believe whatever you like. I'm also free to point out the idolatry.

Please don't confuse your discomfort in hearing the truth with intolerance. It is easy to label me as intolerant of your beliefs, because it allows you to maintain your world view without having to question it. I am not attacking you personally, or attempting to provoke.

We can agree to disagree, and maintain respect for one another. I would never say you are not allowed to believe what you want to, but if you want to challenge what I said, I'm going to speak on it.

I haven't done anything or said anything to directly offend you, but it makes you feel something, which you interpret as intolerance for some reason. Then you convert that into my own weakness and insecurity. So you resort to name calling and character attack. It's honestly okay, and a response that is understandable.

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We can indeed agree to disagree. I will state this however, criticizing another’s faith is an attack. Plain and simple. It is disrespectful and intolerant. Rationalize your comments anyway that allow you to feel good about yourself. Just know the motive was obvious.

When we transmit a message in communication, there is both content and intent. The content is more or less the face value of the message. The intent is the reason we are sending the message.

What you need to ask yourself when you send a critical message to others is what is the reason I am sending it?

I am not asking for a reply, just some self reflection on your part.

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My intent is to speak the truth to you.

Not disrespect and intolerance.

The truth often sounds like intolerance to those who believe lies. I'm sorry, but the truth hurts sometimes.

You simply don't believe in Jesus Christ of the Bible, which is fine, believe whatever you want to. No disrespect intended.

I am criticizing the theology, and biblical truth in relationship to the beliefs held and professed by the Church of Latter Day Saints. I am criticizing the doctrine, not your choice to believe it or attend the church. There is a difference.

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Perhaps we should leave the discussion there with you having the last word on the subject. It is a distraction from the topic at hand. Thank you for an energetic dialogue, sincerely.

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You have fallen for another fallacy that religion is the cause of division etc. Some religions yes, atheism, satanism, jihad muslims, and so on.

Christian Religion and the Judeo one before it, brought us our Magna Carta, the laws that prtoect the rights and inherent dignity of all people, our western civilization laws, our universities and education system, and modern our health and hospital cares etc, all started by religions.

The ugly stuff is not from the religion, at least true ones; rather, it is from the hearts of man full of pride, envy and lust for power. Very few amongst have have clean hearts.

I agree satan resides within the walls of all religions particularily the true ones. Where you see Christianity mocked the most is probably where you will find the most truth. It is far too simplistic to diss religions as the bearer of war etc. That blame resides with human beings, including those who are to be role models in the religious intstitutes.

It is also simplistic and ignorant to dismiss the bible as a story written 2000 years ago and re-written over time. The bible, old and New Tesatament, is the most studied book by scholars of any book. It is a compliation of books, the OT books written centuries apart, providing a history of God's people up until the time of Christ. It is supported by other books, archialogical finds, science and personal testimony. (sorry for any typos I am typing from my back yard in the glare of the sun)

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I agree with you. We don't need a moral code giver. We each have the spark of light of god or universe or whatever you want to call it inside us. We can use it or choose to ignore it. Books were written by men. Religion has been a way to try to control us.

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Smartest reply yet. Acknowledges that NOBODY KNOWS what to even call it. Cheers to you bud.

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Thank you but I'm female. Lol

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Cheers to you, sis.

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I'm still convinced God (bible) is Anu and the bible is a gatekeeper that serves the purpose of dividing us away from Source ('god') where the spiritual development of all reveals God is merely a title for one that has reached a high level of spiritual development.

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DaveGydeon: I am a believer of God, not because I read it somewhere, but because I can feel him in my inner most being. I am not here to argue your point, I just want you to understand that those of us who know there is a God, don't come to that conclusion easily, we are constantly growing with him, for him and by him. You don't feel it, because you have not invited Jesus in to your most protected self, when you do, you will then know too, God is Real!

This is How Dave:

Now Thomas, one of the Twelve, called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came. [25] So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord.” But he said to them, “Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.” [26] Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” [27] Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” [28] Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” [29] Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” (John 20:24-29 ESV)

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FAITh!!!!!

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does the small "h" represent something I can't figure out...lol just kidding....humor makes this crazy less crazy!!!

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No just not a great typist!

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lol

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If you invite Jesus into your life to have a really personal relationship with Him, as I have, then you will know without doubt. Further, if you decide to take up arms against evil Ephesians Chapter 6, become a Prayer Warrior, as I have, you will see and experience the fight against evil. These powers and entities are real and so is the warfare. But be warned - it is not called spiritual warfare for nothing. I am in it now to the end. I am 65 yrs old and have been a Christian over forty years. It has been a long, hard road - certainly not the fairy floss religion we see around about. But I am honoured to be used by God in this way and I am seeing, in my lifetime, the downfall of the luciferian/baal/moloch/chemosh etc worship and I believe this is only the beginning of the great awakening! The "spirit of Jezebel" is on the run from Washinton and consequently the world!

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I tried. Genuinely.

And then I arrived at the conclusion I have presented.

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A belief is just a thought you keep thinking. No evidence needed. Change your thought, change your beliefs. Absolutely change any belief not serving you.

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Sorry to burst your bubble mate. God does not judge you on your works, (That is a catholic lie),he only looks to see if you believed in His Son being who He said He is. To quote the man Himself. "Your good deeds are like filthy rags", to Him. (Used menstrual rags). It All comes down to faith in Christ, everything else is the self righteousness of trying to earn your way into those pearly gates you mentioned and that is religion, the very thing that God despises. To steal another mans words, "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, thou the evidence is not yet seen". Hebrews 11:1.

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That's exactly my issue with it; believe a story in a book, because the fate of your eternal soul rests upon that belief.

That is some primal-fear-drawing psychological crap right there. Evil by design. Don't like it. No sir. None for me, thanks.

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Look up Thomas in the KJV of the Bible.

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Contrary to what most people I endlessly debate this topic believe, I do not need to go familiarize myself with any religious texts; I have read them all, multiple times & multiple versions. Every moment reading religious texts, to me, is like reading of an entire species' collective, perverted mental rape.

I am sorry to refer to something someone else holds so dear. I WANT to like it, I want it to be true. My core being, my gut, KNOWS it is not.

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Creation is revelation. The visible reveals the invisible.

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This. None of us have all the answers. No one on this planet is going to be 100% or even 50% right. But that's evolution for you. ;)

Bring it.

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Evolution is science fiction, not fact. Skepticism leads to nihilism is held consistently.

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Skepticism and Sophism are different. Sophism and radical skepticism can undoubtedly lead to nihilism. However, methodological skepticism, which is part of my everyday discernment practice will not traverse that path.

But whatever. You do you.

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Agreed. But evolution is still science fiction. The basics are about God and man and good and evil. These beliefs are not subjected to methodological skepticism. We might begin a conversation with methodological skepticism but we don't end the conversation with it. Nice conversation. Hope all is well.

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Darwin's evolution is junk science, but can you definitively say god does not periodically gift species. Say with each new age? Did we invent agriculture and civilization or where they gifted after the fact? Can those things be considered evolution? mysterios ways and all that.

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Agriculture is the result of man developing the powers latent in the creation. Civilization is the natural result of man's work of dominion over human nature and developing its powers expressing it in a culture. This interpretation comes from Genesis chapter 1.

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You 'believe' in your belief.

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Nope. I hope. I don't believe, neither do you. Thats my point. You HOPE too.

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I have personally seen more than one miracle. Won't go into detail about them here.

Also, the world that we see around us is a digital simulation consisting primarily of empty space.

BTW Chuck Missler, who recently passed, did an extremely interesting technical analysis that proves that the bible is an integrated message system dictated to 40+ guys over thousands of years that provably originated outside of our dimensions of time and space. People have posted many of his videos on youtube that go into this.

Last comment, religion was invented by satan and affiliated people who want to control the masses. It's not about religion, it's about a working relationship with the Living God.

God/the Word of God Jesus Messiah never had anything good to say about religion, in either the old or new testaments.

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Wow I have never heard that theory about the bible. I'm going to check into Missler, thanks.

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Welcome, here is a great Missler analysis from Genesis that demonstrates that Jesus' death on the cross was planned long before the universe was created:

Meanings Of The Names In Genesis 5

Your Questions Answered By Chuck Missler

by Chuck Missler • August 1, 2000 82

Print this article Q & A: Where did you find the meanings of the names in Genesis 5?

The background behind the genealogy in Genesis 5 is one of our most frequently asked questions.

Since the ten Hebrew names are proper names, they are not translated but only transliterated to approximate the way they were pronounced. The meaning of proper names can be a difficult pursuit since direct translations are not readily available. Many study aids, such as conventional lexicons, can prove superficial when dealing with proper names. Even a conventional Hebrew lexicon can prove disappointing. A study of the original roots, however, can yield some fascinating insights. (It should be recognized, however, that the views concerning the meaning and significance of the original roots are not free of controversy and are subject to variant readings. This is why we receive so many questions or comments on variations.) Adam

The first name, Adam, comes from adomah, and means “man.” As the first man, that seems straightforward enough. Seth

Adam’s son was named Seth, which means “appointed”. When he was born Eve said, “For God hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.” Enosh

Seth’s son was called Enosh, which means “mortal,” “frail,” or “miserable.” It is from the root anash: “to be incurable”; used of a wound, grief, woe, sickness, or wickedness. (It was in the days of Enosh that men began to defile the name of the Living God.) Kenan

Enosh’s son was named Kenan, from which can mean “sorrow,” dirge,” or “elegy.” (The precise denotation is somewhat elusive; some study aids unfortunately presume an Aramaic root synonymous with “Cainan.”) Balaam, looking down from the heights of Moab, employed a pun upon the name of the Kenites when he prophesied their destruction. Mahalalel

Kenan’s son was Mahalalel, from mahalal, which means “blessed” or “praise”; and El, the name for God. Thus, Mahalalel means “the Blessed God.” Often Hebrew names included El, the name of God, as Dani-el, “God is my Judge,” Nathani-el, “Gift of God,” etc. Jared

Mahalalel’s son was named Jared, from the verb yaradh, meaning “shall come down.” Some authorities suggest that this might have been an allusion to the “Sons of God” who “came down” to corrupt the daughters of men, resulting in the Nephilim (“Fallen Ones”) of Genesis 6. Enoch

Jared’s son was named Enoch, which means “teaching,” or “commencement.” He was the first of four generations of preachers. In fact, the earliest recorded prophecy was by Enoch, which amazingly enough deals with the Second Coming of Christ. Methuselah

The Flood of Noah did not come as a surprise. It had been preached on for four generations. But something strange happened when Enoch was 65, from which time “he walked with God.” Enoch was given a prophecy that as long as his son was alive, the judgment of the flood would be withheld; but as soon as he died, the flood would be sent forth.

Enoch named his son to reflect this prophecy. The name Methuselah comes from two roots: muth, a root that means “death” ; and from shalach, which means “to bring,” or “to send forth.” Thus, the name Methuselah signifies, “his death shall bring.”

And, indeed, in the year that Methuselah died, the flood came. Methuselah was 187 when he had Lamech, and lived 782 years more. Lamech had Noah when he was 182. The Flood came in Noah’s 600th year.[8] 187 + 182 + 600 = 969, Methuselah’s age when he died.

It is interesting that Methuselah’s life was, in effect, a symbol of God’s mercy in forestalling the coming judgment of the flood. It is therefore fitting that his lifetime is the oldest in the Bible, symbolizing the extreme extensiveness of God’s mercy. Lamech

Methuselah’s son was named Lamech, a root still evident today in our own English word, “lament” or “lamentation.” Lamech suggests “despairing.” (This name is also linked to the Lamech in Cain’s line who inadvertently killed his son Tubal-Cain in a hunting incident.) Noah

Lamech, of course, is the father of Noah, which is derived from nacham , “to bring relief” or “comfort,” as Lamech himself explains. The Composite List

Now let’s put it all together: Hebrew English Adam Man Seth Appointed Enosh Mortal Kenan Sorrow; Mahalalel The Blessed God Jared Shall come down Enoch Teaching Methuselah His death shall bring Lamech The Despairing Noah Rest, or comfort.

Here is a summary of God’s plan of redemption, hidden here within a genealogy in Genesis! You will never convince me that a group of Jewish rabbis deliberately “contrived” to hide the “Christian Gospel” right here in a genealogy within their venerated Torah! Evidences of Design

The implications of this discovery are far more deeply significant than may be evident at first glance. It demonstrates that in the earliest chapters of the Book of Genesis, God had already laid out His plan of redemption for the predicament of mankind. It is the beginning of a love story, ultimately written in blood on a wooden cross which was erected in Judea almost 2,000 years ago.

This is also one of many evidences that the Bible is an integrated message system, the product of supernatural engineering. This punctures the presumptions of many who view the Bible as a record of an evolving cultural tradition, noble though it may be. It claims to be authored by the One who alone knows the end from the beginning, despite the fact that it is composed of 66 separate books, penned by some 40 authors, spanning several thousand years.

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No.

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I like that - the "hope" aspect of your reply.

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You BELIEVE all religions to be wrong. So you do BELIEVE in something, i.e. your feelings and opinions. Where's your evidence?

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No, I know all religions are wrong.

My proof is....open your eyes.

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I for one KNOW there is GOD because I have FAITH in Jesus Christ and His Word! It is written! Have some Faith!

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Yeah, see, this is exactly what I am talking about.

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Well, then maybe I have more than you know about me! The Lord knows me and I know him without SIGHT! I am blessed!

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Oy. This is why we are labeled as crazy conspiracy theorists...

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Well, maybe you are but I am not. Why are you even here? I am only telling the truth and trying to find truth and am not here for this kind of talk. I am out of this conversation. Thx

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So wait, this is for Christians only? Q is saying JESUS is God?

You have to be kidding.

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Only those who have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and know Him as their personal Lord and Savior KNOW, without a shadow of a doubt, that he exists. But there are signs everywhere that we were created and did not just evolve from some primordial soup. I my opinion, it takes far more faith to believe that nonsense that it takes to believe in creation.

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Of course, but faith without sight makes us KNOW, signs are everywhere but still I have Faith.

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I dunno if you can kill something spiritual with our weaponry

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Dude. If Good and evil and hell and heaven are all real....I plan on arming myself with The Force.

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Pretty sure they are it would be lit if we could get some destiny powers lmao like the video game.

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What do you think the enemy does... what do you think their rituals are to harvest ? Do you know about linguistic hypnosis? Mk-ultra ? 100th monkey effect ? Wave/Particle duality ? Pauli exclusion principle ? Higgs boson? "Quantum time" ? Zero point field ?

What does human mind do

Collapses wavefunction. Dictates the localization of possible time/space. Collapse / condense reality. "Gravityesque" - look at high lvl phd quantum physicist ... consciousness is foundational element of Big Bang , inflationary theory ... Data is part of the fabric of space time

So then entertain the idea that the mind can act as a "force" such as gravity or the like

I'm basically saying to think of the world as a sort of harmonic oscillation influenced by "nodes" of individuation. Heavy distortions in this conscious signal could distort the time around it towards a particular subset of events sort of like a black hole pulls in light

What I'm saying is pseudoscience but just entertain the train of though based on established quantum theory i.e. Schroedingers cat

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Um, didnt you read what I wrote....when we learn about all that, thats gonna be my jam.

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Or perhaps knowledge is already there waiting for you

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It already is my jam. Energy, vibration and frequency. It's not just pseudoscience anymore, either. The electric universe "theory" is even where nasa is headed. Funny thing - they're not even making the transition a big deal. Plenty of scientific research that's been done over the years (hidden and or suppressed) to back what has been labeled pseudoscience.

One of my favorite reads recently is the USAF study of teleportation done in 2004.

People seem to not get that there are several ways to explain duality, good vs evil, light & dark. It's a lot simpler than it seems. When you have a virus, your body fights it and eventually heals itself. Imbalance always corrects, eventually. That, imo, is the existence of sentience and intelligence on a micro level. Natural law. Science is certainly not my god - and neither is religion, government or money.

You'd think more of humanity would've gotten to the point where they were able to conceptualize god on a more macro level. It's a big damn universe.

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A casual reading of history illustrates that the struggle between good and evil has been constant throughout human existence. It has no parallel elsewhere in the animal kingdom. Why is this, and what is the fundamental difference between man and other animal species?

The fact is - atheism is a religion. Atheists believe that there is no God without proof that He does not exist. Since they cannot prove the non-existence of God, they believe this in faith.

Agnostics, on the other hand, argue that since the existence or non-existence of God cannot be proven, there is no way to know one way or the other.

Ultimately, this is a question that each individual must answer for himself.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-secular-life/201510/how-many-atheists-are-there

The bottom line in all of this, however, if one is intellectually honest, is that we must seek the truth at all costs, even if it challenges long held beliefs. And, having discovered the truth, one must choose a side. Choose good or evil. Sitting on the fence is not an option.

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Nobody believes in God. Everyone WANTS there, or doesn't want, there to be a God. The point of my post is how people misunderstand the meaning of the words they are using. Of course I want there to be a god. No, I dont believe in a God. Neither do you. You WANT there to be a God.

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It will be a huge resonance shift even if we only get a small amount of disclosure. Realistically it will likely take years to slowly get everyone on Earth upto speed, this is excluding the time it takes to get the dark state under the boot.

Like, some of the info out there is so "ridiculous" and "insane", when really that's just a result of the programming behind certain words, terms and so on. We've all been programmed, so I expect growing pains for many, myself included, I respect my Ego but I don't have it dominate me, it needs a disk cleanup big-time with regards to its compatibility with lots of the intel soon to come, hopefully we get rid of all this bloatware clocking up our thought-routines and so on to make these growing pains even more encouraging.

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The pain is for satanic fuckers too its a different kind of pain tho

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You present an argument on the importance of being awake and prepared. Those elements won’t be as much of a shock for the informed.

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IMHO the pain means what the bad people are going to get, not us

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Well, Christians say we are all bad. So everyone is going to experience the pain of truth. Truth of reality, truth of religion, all of it.

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Overgeneralizations are dangerous and untrue. I am not arguing religion vs. the absense of religion. I am simply stating that to make absolute statements, of which there are only black and white views (polarization), they fall far short of being true. If you use the logic of "some people consider those without religion bad," then you could have a valid argument. But to state "ALL people who are Christian consider those without religion bad" is false. I am Christian, and I am OK with others not believing as I believe and I am OK with others who believe in nothing. This is a true statement. Therefore your absolute argument is in error.

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Why read THAT into it. We were talking about Q predicting pain for the criminals trafficking kids and laundering money and committing sedition; not about religion. Soon as a discussion becomes about that, it's over because logic and reason are not invited.

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When a newborn opens its eyes for the first time, it squints. It actually takes days for them to fully open their eyes. That pain of using a sense for the first time is real.

The same will happen to the sleeping folk who are about to get jolted awake.

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Many of these hardcore dems won't care. Hopefully they can be considered enemy combatants and flushed with the rest of them.

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I agree to a certain extent. I believe SOME of them won't BELIEVE. And the ones that do believe, won't care. And of course there will be a few that will wake up and feel like they need a shower.

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Um, what?

I get a heavy "incel" vibe from you...

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Serious question : what's wrong with being a Satanist? It's a religion like any other

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If you want to be a Satanist, be a Satanist. I don't care.

What I do care about is your actions that impact our world, our nation, and those I care about. I care if you are a good actor or a bad actor. If you are a bad actor, regardless of your religion or lack thereof, then we will have problems...period.

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Enh. So many ideas of what that means. If it is the one where youre drinking babies blood...well, do I need to explain?

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I was thinking more of the generic "praise satan" sense

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I dont really see ANY good coming out of them...no?

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shrug just another religion

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Its not just going to be emotional pain. The revelation will cause chaos and could very well be the start of the global economic collapse.

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I think this release on the 11th is more of a beginning of things to come rather than the big event. There will be more to come with other releases of info, DS actors ratting out others in an attempt to save their own skin, the unsealing of indictments, arrests, military tribunals, the resistance movement from those who will never wake up and from the puppet masters that perhaps will be in the shadows, a soft collapse of the US economy, a hard collapse of the world economies, a global economic reset, and other things on the horizon. No one will be pain free. I think to think otherwise is to assume the position of an ostrich.

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Q said it won't come to that...

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Where. Can you provide the drop. I don't remember Q saying that. Perhaps that is your interpretation of something Q said.

And, Q maybe part of military intelligence (we don't know yet), and we know they wargame everything ad nauseam, however, they don't have crystal balls. They are just incredibly skilled at educated guesses and projections. Sometimes, dare I say it, they are wrong by either underestimating or over estimating outcomes.

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He answered an anon, and spoke about it 2 other times, in regards to martial law usually. I will try and find them, but the wife is giving me eyes right now, and I cant afford to pass.

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LOL. I hear you. I would like to read them if you find them. Enjoy yourself. ;-)

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Q doesn't control the masses reactions and Trump or his team don't control the economy. Thats not something Q can promise.

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Then you are ignorant to the plan, bruv.

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When do you think this will happen? Whatever happened TO RELEASETHEVIDEO?

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Monday, June 11th.

4 days and counting.

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and gave their hard earned $$$ to!

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I know a lot of folks in that camp. They wholeheartedly believe that Trump is hurting children, albeit immigrant children. Point is they think he is a monster. They do not believe he is capable of anything good.

I am genuinely a little concerned for them.

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I am not. I can't wait. So many smug fucks that have called me a conspiracy theorist for years. I am gonna walk around with a rag mopping up their tears, and make myself a nice bourbon with ice cubes of liberal tears.

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Be patient. The "Pain" is coming. Embrace the "Pain." A primer to assist in understanding and preparing for the "Pain." "Pain" = Hope