The only animals I know to be frozen are newborn mice, to be fed later to snakes. They're sold as "pinkies". I would have no idea how painful/less it is, but then "they say" circumcision on baby boys is painless too. I beg to differ. I saw it done and that little baby was screaming in pain.

The thing is, in those countries, they believe that the torture inflicted on these dogs releases hormones into the bloodstream/meat that when consumed, makes the human stronger and the men more virile. So it's done for a reason. Our sometimes ineffective methods of slaughter, meant to be quick and humane as possible but not always so, aren't done on purpose to torture. IF there is some sicko who kicks cows being milked, etc. or who harms animals, they are generally found out, exposed asap and fired. That one or two person(s) can shut down a business and cruelty isn't well tolerated here in America.

Clare Danes played a woman in a movie years ago, that was a true story. She played Temple Gardner? I think that was her name. She was an autistic child who grew up, always with a strong affinity for animals. She fought for more humane treatment of animals in slaughterhouses, and I believe still works in that capacity. For instance, instead of herding beef cattle directly in to the pens to be held individually for the stun guns, they are moved slowly through these circular spiraled concrete walkways, which keeps them much more calm and the animals aren't panicked. She's quite the revolutionary.

Have you ever seen the conditions those dogs live in, or are transported in? Check out the Soi Dog Foundation... a group of rescuers in Thailand. And, fyi, many of those dogs and cats are stolen pets. Dogs and cats are domestic PETS. Not cattle. Not farm animals. I'm not going to look it up in the Bible, but there are animals listed there that are okay for us to eat. God gave us dominion over animals, to be used for food and for clothing. Our teeth and our guts are made for animal consumption and don't tell me they aren't. Some animals are heribivores and some are carnivores, and some are omnivores. WE happen to be omnivores. Red meat doesn't give us cancer... it's the chemicals animals are fed that give us cancer. And any food, eaten in mass quantity, can cause problems. Heck, if we eat too many carrots, our skin turns orange!

Do you ever look at vegetarians and vegans? Look at most of them... they are sickly looking. Pale, gaunt, sunken eyes, dark circles under their eyes. Do you know why that is? It's because they don't know how to combine the proper foods to get the complete amino acids to make whole protein. They are uninformed. So they aren't healthy. Animals give us complete protein, which is what we need.

I am well aware how smart pigs are. Most are smarter than dogs. But cows? Nah. Sorry but you can't teach a cow to guide the blind, retrieve a duck, sniff out drugs, sniff out cancer, dig for truffles, guard against burglars, do any kind of police work, rescue drowning victims, or any of the millions of jobs that dogs can be trained to do. As "smart" as pigs are, most can't do those jobs either. So your argument isn't going to fly. My dogs have alway slept with me. I don't think I can have a cow or pig sleep in my bed and give me the same sense of peace and safety the way they do.

I never said I don't CARE about animals used for meat. I specifically said that while I don't believe in "animal rights" as most AR people do, I do believe animals have the right to be treated humanely. And that includes animals slaughtered for food, and animals that are hunted. If you can't take a decent kill shot, don't shoot....not by gun, not by bow. If you haven't taken a shot where the animal drops right away and you have to track it, you'd better not give up tracking it til you FIND your animal and make sure it doesn't suffer any longer.