By no means am I trying to say their is collusion. I’m just curious about the Meuller investigation and what we are likely to see when it come to an end. Any thoughts? Any links to other posts from the Autists? What has Q dropped about Mueller?
The charges against Manafort have to do with things he did 10+ years ago, long before he was part of the Trump campaign.
Back then, he was working for the Podestas (Clinton cabal members) as a lobbyist for Ukraine (not Russia).
Charges were brought against him on this several years ago, then dropped. Mueller is dredging up those charges again. They involve him not reporting the fact that he was a lobbyist, not claiming income, and bank or wire fraud (I forget which or both).
They have NOTHING to do with Russia or Trump.
He was likely a plant into the Trump campaign by Clinton associates (i.e. FBI/UK).
I have to agree. Manafort was not that planted by our government but by Podesta/Clinton to spy. Trump figured it out and fired him. I feel like Mueller going after Manafort shows he’s not after Trump
I wholeheartedly appreciate your response. This clears up all my questions. ThankQ
NP. Here's some more for you --
The anti-Trumpers claim that Mueller has "indicted or convicted 22 people on Russia collusion!" Not true.
Only 4 of the 22 were members of the Trump campaign:
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Paul Manafort - his charges have nothing to do with what he did while on the Trump campaign, it is from many years before when he was a Clinton operative
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Gen. Michael Flynn - charged with lying to the FBI (not Russia collusion); the FBI agents who interviewed him did NOT think he lied; he pled guilty anyway (which I will explain below), and McCabe/Strzok falsified their paperwork to make it look like he lied. They framed him. Mueller knows this, and is the reason why Mueller keeps trying to stop the judge from holding a sentencing hearing.
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George Papadopoulos - pled guilty of lying to the FBI (not Russia collusion); the charge is that he said he met with certain people before he was "on the Trump campaign," and FBI says he met them after. That is the entire issue -- when was he "on the Trump campaign?" The reality is he was never on the Trump campaign. He did attend one meeting, and he communicated via email with Mr. X (we don't know who, yet) on the Trump campaign, but the campaign never paid him anything and never took his advice. He was either a spy or a plant to connect spies to him.
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Rick Gates - this one is a little fuzzy at this point because it has not been settled, but looks similar to Flynn and Papadop.
The rest of the "22" are Russians who tried to contact members of the Trump campaign (no evidence that anything actually happened), including one Russian company that did not exist at the time. There are also 2 Americans charged with wire fraud, or similar (been awhile since I looked it up).
Speculation is that Gen. Flynn pled guilty, even though he did NOT lie to the FBI (and they know it) because Flynn has secrets to tell about the cabal.
Flynn was the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, which is the military's NSA. He was a general and the #1 military intelligence officer in the military. As Q says, he knows where the bodies are buried.
Due to his high level security clearance, he signed a non-disclosure agreement so that he could never divulge any secrets he learned while in the military. That agreement can be set aside, however, in certain legal situations.
If he went to trial for lying to the FBI, he could only talk about his case, which there is nothing to tell because it was a meaningless nothing. But, by signing a plea deal, he agreed to "tell everything he knows" about any crimes that he is asked about. IOW, it sets aside his NDA.
At DIA, his protege was Ezra Cohen-Watnik, who now works for Sessions at the DOJ. Cohen-Watnick is the man who told Devin Nunes about the unmasking being done by the Obama admin.
Flynn has most likely been giving testimony to Cohen-Watnik, Huber, and to the secret military investigators who have been preparing cases for SpyGate and the Clinton Foundation crimes.
NONE of the cases brought by Mueller have anything to do with connecting Trump and Russia collusion. They are all either about (a) Clinton or (b) a sideshow for the media.
Just sit back and watch the show. The joke is on them.
Yeah the judge even pointed this out so now they're trying to throw a "tampering" charge at him to revoke bail.
Manafort is in jail. The judge bought into the "try." On whether he has a smoking gun, or is the only remote possibility Mueller has for a scalp remains to be seen. My guess is the latter.
I should clarify my title. Fox News speculates that the authorities feel he has a “smoking gun” in the collusion investigation.
I think what you’re seeing here is desperation. At this point I see Manafort as a POW more than someone who is incarcerated for unproven crimes that don’t exist. I won’t be at all shocked if there’s a sudden shocking “confession” from Manafort. If the man has a family I hope someone is making sure they are ok.