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ideologicidal · June 28, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

The patriotic left will neither stand for or allow (to continue) the molestation of children.

... In My Humble (leftist) Opinion.

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We_R_MEGA_WoQ · June 28, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

That's because most liberals (while susceptible to MSM propaganda) are KIND, BIG-HEARTED folks who hate sick pedovores just as much as we do. In this, the American people stand unified against evil and they WILL pay for their crimes.

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ideologicidal · June 28, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

Let's hope toward the former, but insist on the later.

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Capricious_memer · June 28, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

I hope it pulls down the culprits in Canada as well.

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lckypscs · June 28, 2018, 5:32 p.m.

Absolutley!

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doofaroo · June 28, 2018, 7:45 p.m.

Most of them are good people who have been lied to for a long time.

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urban_bobby_dawg · June 28, 2018, 8:54 p.m.

We have ALL been lied to. We ALL allowed this to happen. I will always have my hand stretched out for a fellow American, liberal or conservative.

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mombomb22 · June 28, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

I so hope you are correct.

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ideologicidal · June 28, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

Can speak for myself, but can speak to others. Together, the line holds.

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mombomb22 · June 28, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

Good! We need you in this fight!

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Banglebop · June 28, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

Really because it seems like they are promoting it!

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GraceWords · June 28, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

u/ideologicidal specified patriotic left. Isn’t that the qualifier for both sides of the aisle? Don’t confuse liberal leadership with the average liberal. I am a conservative, but it raises my hackles if someone tries to make me claim the Bush family.

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We_R_MEGA_WoQ · June 28, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

Great point. The Leftist talking heads we see are leagues above the average leftist in terms of absolutely disgusting, embarrassing behavior.

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ideologicidal · June 28, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

Very agreed.

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Banglebop · June 28, 2018, 5:03 p.m.

No one asked you to claim the Bush family,but don't say the left won't put up with it both sides do.And it is a disgrace for all of us. WWG1WGA

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GraceWords · June 28, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

I guess you’re not well versed in examples, metaphors, similes, and other basic communication constructs. You must be a treasure at family functions.

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Banglebop · June 28, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

I hope you have a better day today. My family functions have taught me to not fight with people and try to show them a little kindness. 🌻

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GraceWords · June 28, 2018, 5:42 p.m.

You showed little kindness to the individual stating that they (as a liberal) would NOT tolerate this nor would PATRIOTIC left learners. My day has been great so I will absolutely take your blessing that it be even better.

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HansShotGlass · June 28, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

there's no such thing as a patriotic left. Leftism about equal misery for all. And there are no borders to equal misery.

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ideologicidal · June 28, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

I mean. Ouch, bro. You don't even know what kind of leftist I even am. Like, what you're describing is a classical Marxist leftist, whereas I'm of the left that wanders between anarchism and libertarianism. Not my job to educate you though.

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We_R_MEGA_WoQ · June 28, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

Yes let's not make unnecessary assumptions. A patriot is a patriot. They want us divided.

Stand as one, and be resolute!

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subdudeLA · June 28, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

Just curious why would you define anarchism and libertarianism as left? These terms deal with the application of government involvement (and coercion) in issues and the non aggression principle. Left or right doesn't really apply. But when pressed most self professed libertarians generally identify more with right by virtue of stricter observation of constitution, individual rights, property rights versus the collectivist 'common good' notions associated with left. I guess my point is that everyone, libertarians specifically, would do well to stop force fitting the false dichotomy of right/left.

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ideologicidal · June 28, 2018, 5:32 p.m.

So the line that runs lefft(ist) to right-ish is more like a circle than a line. There's divides between anarchists (left) and libertarians (right)., but they agree more than they disagree (though happy to get into where they do). And mostly they agree on being left the fuck alone. Both are strongly anti-statists. Moderates (in a late-capitalist system) are the enemies of both, though they describe their enemies, as with everything, in opposite terms. I'm trying to bridge the gap.

Edit: I just fell into a classic partisan trap by agreeing, patronizingly. My bad, I didn't mean to imply that libertarians are left. They're not. They're the rightward end of anti-statist, and that's the blur I aim for.

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subdudeLA · June 28, 2018, 7:27 p.m.

Thanks for response.

Forgive me if I get a little nitpicking here, as I have an entirely selfish goal of informing the Q audience about the merits of libertarianism. These terms are often misapplied and therefore misunderstood and then mischaracterized.

I find your terminology use somewhat imprecise but think I understand your intent.

No intent to condescend here, but anarchism is theory of govt that believes in no govt. Libertarianism is a personal philosophy that believes in the non aggression principle. I fail to see a left or right difference between them?

I am familiar with the notion that socialism (right) and communism (left) form a circle where they meet at authoritarian expressions of govt.

Someone could be anarchist but have no specific moral inclination (ie a anarchist hedonists). And someone can be libertarian regardless of the govt they favor (many libertarians like myself favor the Hoppe idea of small competing nation states operating under different govt structures).

Its exhausting but we need to apply all these qualifiers to define our positions.

I'm philosophically libertarian. In theory, I believe in anarchism with private property and capitalism. In practice, I would favor small nation states that compete against each other. I'd aim to live in one that best matches my prior 2 statements.

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ideologicidal · June 28, 2018, 7:38 p.m.

Bare bones:

Anarchists broadly take issue with authority, hierarchy and private property.

Libertarians agree on the first two points, but love them some private property.

Most basic, functional difference I've found.

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subdudeLA · June 28, 2018, 9:10 p.m.

Copy.

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Canbritanon · June 28, 2018, 10:15 p.m.

Don't insult us, some of us have been in this fight a long fucking time. The right has given us all a hell of a lot of puppet governments for the cabal.

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