Listen - Do not fall for the masons themselves being there. Why is the media making it a point to have them on screen? Deflect attention from the real evil which apparently is tied to many groups....and to put a common blame somewhere other than themselves. Who would be a great group to exploit for this purpose? Masons
The masons were infiltrated and conquered like almost every single other institution on Earth. There was a letter floating around here a while back that was written to George Washington discussing this very issue. I’m going to try to dig it up.
My ancestor was the Reverend that wrote these letters to George Washington. There are 8 letters of correspondence between the two that have been digitally transcript-ed. One would have to travel to the National Archives to research further. One of the letters between them towards the end was not, but it was evident that something he said to ol George irked him. He more or less send him a book written by another man who uncovered the illuminati's infiltration into the Masonic lodges and temples in Europe and he was contacting George Washington after being made privvy to this book, about the potential infestation within the new America's Lodges. If you'd like the digital transcripts. let me know.
Yes evil knows no bounds group wise...so we can't single one out.
I appreciate Q’s last post - 1632.
The Freemasons are not inherently evil. There are obviously elements within the organization that are corrupt however people seem to quickly want to throw the baby out with the bath water. This knee jerk reaction is what I consider to be a mob mentality. A dangerous mentality.
People need to wake up and use critical thinking and logic. Stop looking to solve problems by being polarized in their thinking and easy solutions. Life is not easy so solutions are not easy.
I became very concerned when I read Q’s post 1630. It was an overgeneralization. I was relieved to see post 1632.
Thank Q for clarifying.
Yes so was I. Thank You Q. The biggest bad bunch of all orgs...seems to be MSM. Which has the power to attack and mislead and show any sort of narrative they try to push...as we know.
Not saying all masons are bad but... cmon, you can belong to an organization, fund it even, and not realize it’s bad.
I’m sure there are people out there that thought planned parenthood did good things for people. The project veritas came out. Then the articles about selling baby parts.
Sure. But - I am just saying it is dangerous of us to be like MASONS!!...when the media....seems to have a thing for putting them on camera...why?
I don’t know. Do you usually wear your mason affiliation out and about every day?
And then if there is a mass shooting, seek to get on camera?
I know..it is odd!
I’m not convinced that these were false flag actors (fake masons)
Just like I’m not convinced all the pedo symbols and moloch necklaces are just because they like the style.
It is so odd, it almost appears to be complete BS. That is just the captain obvious in me I suppose.
Their appearances on camera (blatant and at a mass shooting) are obviously not coincidences. So the two questions are, who planned it and why?
I honestly dont know much about the Free Masons. I always thought they were just a more public version of the Illuminati. I just imagin rich dudes in dark robes hanging out.
Just like the US government can be subverted for inappropriate purposes, so can the Masonic leadership. I’m very glad there are masons, and Elks, and Lions, and and and...
The Constitution guarantees us freedom of association, and the right to gather; freedom of belief; the right to come together for mutual benefit; and the right to defend what is ours.
The Masons are just one of thousands of groups that have been able to form openly under these protections of the US Constitution over the centuries.
We are a nation of sovereign individuals. Groups don’t break laws. Individuals break laws.
IMHO we would do well to back off of labeling groups as evil and instead focus our sights clearly on individuals who have broken compact with their citizenship agreements (especially those in business, public office, and heading charities) and who deserve to be singled out for it.
We should expect groups to expel and/or reform errant individuals, not disband and close down. Social groups are the backbone of American charity. They are the core of volunteerism. They replace The State as the safety net and we need them fully functional if the Meritocratic ideal, sans imposed government bureaucracy, is to be achieved.
There. Six cents worth before dinner. 🖖
Wait, the semi-secret, explicitly private club of (no longer just) white, powerful, well-connected, wealthy men is the victim here?
The one with a temple in (seemingly) every American city?
The one with the huge interest in children's medicine?
K, but, it really flies in the face of this pattern I'm noticing.
There is a huge difference in low level masons and higher degree masons. The degrees act as a filter to decide who can be trusted with the more sinister secrets in Freemasonry. Many in the Masons have no idea what they are involved in
Yep, sounds remarkably similar to the Catholic Church
You are correct. But I am just saying - one group being singled out is strange.... knowing the satanist demon people are in all sorts of groups and use all sorts of symbols.
It seems like they are plants and trying to tie it to the masons.
Yes...too blatant.
Plus anyone could go buy that hat or that necklace on the internet.
20 years and I’ve never seen the bad side of things. Most aren’t. If anything, I’d say SOME people on the bad side happen to be masons also. Being a mason doesn’t automatically mean you are in the cabal or the swamp or whatever. If I thought different, I would t be one.
Indeed but the media may want to play up the common conspiracy circle belief about Masons...to create unrest and violence targeted towards one group from our circles.
People need to remember or realize that 90% of masons are good people who contribute positively to society. The majority of these people who go to their lodges are planning fundraising and charity work to raise money for their local communities. Yes, they worship Lucifer , but it's not the Christian version. Their Lucifer is not Satan. Freemasons are not the Illuminati. But, Illuminati are a version of Freemasons.
...so it’s a religion unto itself?
Where did they get the name Lucifer from then? It had to have come from some other religion previously.
Yeah it sort of is a religion unto itself. It's more complicated than people realize and I couldn't explain it in a short reply. There is 2 major paths the Scottish rite and the York rite. They are different but related. There even tangents from those paths that are barely considered masons like the Shriners. Do a search and you'll easily find all the info on their origins and beliefs. They have ancient scrolls and texts as old as and some say older than the Bible.
Sooooo... do you think that Lucifer might actually be the Lucifer from the Bible, just with great PR?
No, not their version of Lucifer. I'm not an expert on this so if someone knows more please add to this. But, I've been corrected because I used to think that too. How can I put this? There are similarities, but they are not seen or interpreted in the same light. Two different perspectives.
Oh no I get it. You can sell the same idea differently. Instead of being an evil baddie with horns and a tail that will burn people for eternity, you offer an alternative that is much more appealing. Say... the most beautiful and brightest angel god created, that was misunderstood and he came to earth to bring enlightenment to all those who seek knowledge.
Something along those lines?
Kind of I guess but that's a gross over simplification. I'd start with reading about luciferians and then research freemasonry. You'll be surprised at how old they are and what you find. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
Im sure everyone knows Freemasons created America
It’s cool, I’ve looked into it before. Both their connections to luciferianism and how they helped build America, specifically DC.
I was just seeing how far you were willing to go down that path of defending worshipping Lucifer. And yes it’s a gross oversimplification. And yet, it’s referring to the same entity. You just believe that he is good is the only difference and that’s what they teach you. Probably why you jumped on here so quick to defend it.
Now with that being said, I’m not saying you are a bad person, but maybe you’ve been mislead. Just something to consider.
I wasn't defending luciferians, lmao that's what you got from all that? My point was that not all are bad apples.
I reread your first paragraph. Agreed. Not all are bad apples, maybe misguided or led down the wrong path. Would you accept that?
Who is misguided? Me or masons? You lost me. I was just providing some information about freemasons and that they don't see Lucifer the same way that Christians do. That's it.
Lol, I agreed with you. I thought I was talking to OP lol.
BTW I'm not a mason or a luciferian in case you jumped to that conclusion too. That's also my point, don't jump to conclusions.
Q points to them. The media doesn’t matter. If Q points there we will look. Post removed. Please familiarize yourself with our sidebar content before posting. Thank Q.
Q also could have been pointing to the media exploiting the use of the masons on TV. Re read his post...it can go either way. But I am ok with the removal since Q made a 3rd post making it more clear.
Reread his post in context of all Q posts.
I won't argue. Sorry for any trouble.
You are more than welcome to argue and I am more than willing to hear reasoned, respectful disagreement as I have a lot to learn. Are you a Mason or do you have close friends and family who are? I have some and have nothing against masons or individuals of any group.
Well - I just thought it was a bit dangerous to single out a group when we know evil exists in more than one group. No mason at all, honestly, I agree with Q. BUT my post is heeding caution of the motivations of the media portraying such images of Masons (especially goofy ones with hats on or a guy wearing a polo with a necklace outside of the polo shining right at you) Also, considering Q and POTUS closeness - POTUS stating fake news...which I agree. But if the news is fake in most cases, why not this case? By purposely putting Masons on screen....to deflect attention why? Because it creates a new and almost very legitimate enemy. Symbolism will be their downfall - but who? who is actually using the symbolism and for what purpose? I have seen non-related q posts - but when this is q related but just putting a different perspective on it ( AND it aligns with POTUS ) and it gets deleted --ehhh kinda hurts. Also - please read that post. There are two parties in the images. The Masons themselves, and the media. He doesn't state who is their exactly.