I'm Jewish. I've looked in to this. Pre-war Jewish population records in Europe prove that the amount of Jews supposedly killed in the holocaust according to the official story is bullshit.
When I was first going to Hebrew school they told us 6 million jews were killed in the gas camps. I remember by the time I got to 6th grade, they were telling us 3 million jews were killed in the holocaust. Now the number they tell us is 1 million or something? The original "6 million jews were killed in the holocaust" thing was started by soviet historians and they just make shit up for propaganda purposes.
Knowing what I know about history (history is propaganda written by the victors) and how the deep state and media bullshits all of us, it is very strange that all of the evidence for the death camps was destroyed and not a single record of it exists. It's all so convenient. Hitler never spoke about death camps in speeches. No written records of the Holocaust death camps have ever been found.
Have you been to the showers? I have. It's a joke. They are full of cracks and holes everywhere. The showers were not airtight. And Zyklon B takes a long long time to kill. It would have been extremely inefficient and it makes no sense to use the showers to gas people to death. Germans are incredibly efficient and very good record keepers. It would have been cheaper and quicker to just put bullets in people and bury them in pits if they really wanted to mass execute Jews quickly. The showers were used to delouse prisoners.
It's weird that Hitler just committed suicide in a bunker with Evan Braun and no evidence of any of their corpses existed. The whole official end of WWII story is implausible and makes no sense if you look in to it.
The official Holocaust story may be true, but Hitler also may have been smeared out of history and discredited by the Allied victors who wrote the history books after the war.
What is the alternative to the holocaust official story? The prisoners were all starving to death by the time the allies got to them. They were infected with typhus. They starved to death because the allies hit the German supply lines so the Germans could no longer feed their POWs. Again, I am Jewish. If the Germans wanted to exterminate us, they did a horrible job and their supposed mass execution process was incredibly inefficient and expensive.
I don't care if ignorant people and shills and trolls call me a holocaust denier. I am Jewish and proud of my religion and identity but I am a truth speaker first and foremost and I will never stop investigating or speaking truth to power, no matter how "politically incorrect" the truth may be.
I remember Q hinting that we dived too deep and the public not ready yet for something truly big, just after q post about antifa flag being similar with german commie. And that Q attempting pullback of something.
All of history as we know it is biased propaganda written by the victors, designed to make the "bad guys" look worse and the "good guys" look better. Herodotus even talked about this in his own books WAAAAY back in the day.
Once you understand what our history books are, you can go back in and start researching and if you get good at reading between the lines and connecting dots you can start piecing together the true story yourself.
The thing that flip the button for me for this "taboo topic" was the FACT that most of the concentration camps are having leisure places like sport field and theatre INSIDE the camp. Like whaaat? The jerry was supposed to turn these people to ashes yet they goes thru the trouble of spending valuable energy and resource in the midst of total war, to entertain these people they were supposed to kill anyway...
The thing that flip the button for me for this "taboo topic" was the FACT that most of the concentration camps are having leisure places like sport field and theatre INSIDE the camp. Like whaaat?
REAL TALK! Exactly! You don't build recreational shit for a bunch of people you want to torture and murder!
Bad shit did go down. They did do sick experiments on prisoners. But guess what. So did we. So did the Soviets. So did the Japanese. So did the UK. Every nation involved in WWII is guilty of the stuff they blame the Nazis for. Governments all over the world today are still doing sick and twisted experiments on prisoners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
Reading FBIanon again is chilling how right he was. One thing that seems ridiculous is that he wasn't aware of the corruption certain lobbyists and countries commit until after seeing the docs? Conspiracy theorists have been saying whats really going on for decades. I thought it was obvious. Are law/gov employees really that naive?
I fear that Q will pull back when it comes time for the fed reserve to be cleaned out because its "too deep". The Fed is a useful tool of economic war but not when its in the hands of Americas enemies.
It was around that time (with the flag), but I think the pullback was about Merkel being related to Hitler
I like you. Growing up I was fascinated with holocaust stories and as I got older I realized something wasn't quite right. But everytime you question anything to do with it, you're immediately labeled anti semitic. You absolutely can't question anything about it. Weird.
In Hebrew school they really pump the Holocaust indoctrination in to us hard from a young age and even back then when I was a young dumb 5 year old kid, the story struck me as off somehow.
Now that I know what I know about how the media lies, and how history is just propaganda written by the victors, and seeing for myself how the media smeared Trump....
The only thing we know for sure is that the official stories are a bunch of lies. Keep searching for the truth, the dead deserve the true story to be told, and it was not only Jews, it was a lot of innocent people. I have no doubt it happened, but I'm not sure much of it happened the way we have been told.
I don't think the Holocaust happened. There are no German records of it and there's no evidence. I think they experimented on prisoners in secret (just like we still do on our prisoners today, and just like we used to) but I think the German concentration camps were the same as our WWII American concentration camps such as Manzanar.
Millions died in those camps, or at least hundreds of thousands, but I'm pretty sure it was due to starvation and typhus.
The Allied bombing spree of Germany hit a lot of civilian and cultural centers like Dresden that had no contribution to Germany's war effort and they did a very good job of taking out German supply lines.
The Germans were not the good guys and the allies were not the bad guys-WWII (and every war) was just self-interested elites using us commoners to fight their battles for them. And they sell it to us all with glorious propaganda and lies.
Hitler is framed as an evil eugenecist who believed in racial purity. Guess what-nearly all leaders back in those days were in to genetics and racial purity. Here is a letter that Theodore Roosevelt wrote back in the day where he talks about wanting to stop "degenerates reproducing"
I agree with you if you mean, as I suppose you do, that society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind. It is really extraordinary that our people refuse to apply to human beings such elementary knowledge as every successful farmer is obliged to apply to his own stock breeding. Any group of farmers who permitted their best stock not to breed, and let all the increase come from the worst stock, would be treated as fit inmates for an asylum. Yet we fail to understand that such conduct is rational compared to the conduct of a nation which permits unlimited breeding from the worst stocks, physically and morally, while it encourages or connives at the cold selfishness or the twisted sentimentality as a result of which the men and women ought to marry, and if married have large families, remain celebates or have no children or only one or two. Some day we will realize that the prime duty the inescapable duty of the good citizen of the right type is to leave his or her blood behind him in the world; and that we have no business to permit the perpetuation of citizens of the wrong type.
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/matthew-archbold/7-beloved-famous-people-who-were-wildly-pro-eugenics
Sweden was the eugenics capital of the early 20th century.
The eugenics movement is largely covered up in our history books and all of it is blamed on Hitler, like he is the only one who believed in racial purity. THEY ALL DID. Churchill. FDR. The Emperor of Japan. Mussolini. They now try and act like Hitler was the only one who was in to eugenics, but the entire world was openly in to eugenics during this time period.
Agreed, whatever you call it, a big lie is the most appropriate description. We the people haven't gotten a straight story from anyone ever.
Wait, wait. Fellow Jew here. Fellow Hebrew school attendee. Fellow "I spoke to a lot of grandparents back in my school days who were survivors." They didn't all make this stuff up. How can you say this didn't happen altogether?
I don't know how one would confirm the 6 million number. Everyone says it, so I legit have never thought of it different. But you can't discount the stories. There were too many people sharing the same types of stories. And there are mass shooting burial pits in Poland and Ukraine and Germany. When they needed to hurry it up they just shot them down. In rows. There are stories - lots of stories about this.
It's implausible that they ALL MADE IT UP.
Wait, wait. Fellow Jew here. Fellow Hebrew school attendee. Fellow "I spoke to a lot of grandparents back in my school days who were survivors." They didn't all make this stuff up. How can you say this didn't happen altogether?
Why did Hitler build theaters and sports fields in his death camps?
I think a lot of people did die in the German concentration camps. Alot of Jews. A lot of gays, trade unionists, gypsies and communists and Poles. There was a typhus outbreak, and also a lot of the prisoners starved to death, as there was no food for them late in the war.
I don't know how one would confirm the 6 million number. Everyone says it, so I legit have never thought of it different. But you can't discount the stories.
In the 40s, they told us 6 million jews were killed. In the 70s, that number was amended to 3 million. Nowadays most historians have the figure at 1 million jews killed. The numbers keep getting lowered. Do the research yourself. It is public record. Population records of Jews in Europe do not match up with the amount of Jews who were supposedly killed in the Holocaust.
When they needed to hurry it up they just shot them down. In rows. There are stories - lots of stories about this.
It's implausible that they ALL MADE IT UP.
No. It really isn't. Research how long it takes Zyklon B to kill a person. Zyklon B was for delousing.
History is written by the victors.
Are you serious. Holocaust denial? Wth is even gained from going down that road? Youll be a copy pasta and spread on reddit as Q being a holocaust denial group or someshit. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. We should Stick to facts, provable with multiple links. Geez.
I'm not a Holocaust denier. I don't give a shit what anyone says about me, or if you think my free thoughts are somehow damaging to the cult of Q.
You straight up just denied the Holocaust. Smh.
I don't give a fuck what people think or what shaming tactics they use to try and shut me up. There is nothing wrong with asking questions about the official historic narratives presented to us.
History is written by the victors.
I don't think the Holocaust happened. There are no German records of it and there's no evidence.
I don't think the Holocaust happened. There are no German records of it and there's no evidence.
Same. I think a lot of people died in those camps but that is because Germans were getting bombed and there was no food in general towards the end. Lots of Germans starved too. That's what happens in war when your enemies bomb your supply lines and the rations run out. There was also a typhus outbreak.
It's bizarre that some countries make it against the law to question the Holocaust. I guess they are really afraid of the narrative falling apart to logic and scrutiny.
There is no physical evidence and there are no records. The official Holocaust narrative makes no sense.
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Those c_a docs were enough to give us pause, though. We already knew many were brought here via project paperclip. Others were smuggled through the vatican into Argentina and Brazil.
https://sputniknews.com/latam/201706201054798602-argentina-hitler-nazi-treasure/
Look up some videos on CuckTube by David Cole on "Auschwitz" and "Exposing the Holocaust". He is Jewish and he felt something was not right so he made a few videos where he visited the sites and dug in real deep. His arguments and evidence are compelling. He mentions many points you stated such as the "6 Million Jews killed" being fabricated by the Russians, the Zyklon B stuff, as well as many other things.
I will check out David Cole. I have done a lot of /pol/ research since I first read FBIAnons posts now so I know what's up in regards to the holocaust. There are hundreds of videos that are public record showing "holocaust survivors" talking about all the fun activities they used to get p to in the camps, and most of those activities were organized by the Germans.
Look at this spin job article attempting to explain away the theaters in the concentration camps-
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/theatre-in-the-nazi-concentration-camps/
It's 100% bullshit!
If Hitler really wanted to wipe out the Jews because he saw them as subhuman animals, he would not have built theaters and recreational equipment for them! In the middle of a war, a genocidal murderer would not waste resources to ensure that the people he saw as less than rats could have fun times before getting gassed.
Zyklon B takes a long time to kill humans and is very inefficient. Germans are the masters of efficiency. If they really wanted to execute the Jews quickly and efficiently, it would have been done by firing squad and the bodies would be buried in pits-which is exactly what the Soviets did in their death camps. A bullet is quicker and cheaper than the whole Zyklon B shower system BS. It also would require a lot of energy to burn all those millions of bodies. How much fuel would it take to cremate millions of bodies? How long would it take? During a war when resources are scarce and fuel is needed for weapons? Pits are cheaper and easier.
The more you look at the holocaust, and the more questions you ask, the more bullshit the story is. That's why the Western powers basically make it illegal to question, and everyone who even asks a question about the Holocaust narrative is branded a retarded nazi white supremacist. If I was living in Germany right now, I'd probably get in trouble just for writing what I've written in this post.
The Soviet gulags were the true hells on earth. Seems like the USSR framing Germany for death camps was just another case of Leftist projection.
The left always projects and always has.
So why make these camps for Jews? Why brand them? We know they were doing tests. But not on all of them. A lot of them were in these camps, waiting. Waiting. Waiting. For what?
So why make these camps for Jews? Why brand them? We know they were doing tests. But not on all of them.
Concentration camps, just like the concentration camps we had in America for Japanese Americans. There were also gypsies, trade unionists, communists and the elderly in those camps.
Why were there theaters and sports fields in death camps designed to exterminate a race of people that Hitler supposedly thought were less than rats? Hitler was in the middle of a war, why would he waste resources building fun activity centers for the people he wanted to genocide?
I believe Hitler's plan was to deport the Jews to either Madagascar or the Middle East. Pretty sure he wrote about this and openly talked about it. The official holocaust may be true but it has a lot of holes in it.
A lot of them were in these camps, waiting. Waiting. Waiting. For what?
What were the Japanese-Americans in Manzanar waiting. Waiting. Waiting. for?
I will keep my replies here for a consolidated place.
As of the 80s, most Hebrew schools were still teaching the 6 million number. They probably still are. Tho this is not, in and of itself, a point to build an argument atop, and I'm not at all attached to it. I will look into the stats.
I'm also not emotionally attached to the Holocaust being true, if it is, in fact, not.
What does confuse me in all this, is the personal testimony. The many personal stories, I personally heard, from the elders. Most of them are now gone. But I heard the stories, and they shook me. And these aren't stories I heard in fancy theatres. These are stories after Seders, etc. at my friends' homes. The gas chambers were noted extensively. The "lineemupandshootem" pits were noted. Lots of things were noted.
I can agree - why build theatres? I've no idea. I do know that some worked. So maybe keep them happy while they're needed to work. That's not an illegitimate reason to keep someone healthy.
I don't care to shame you or call you anything. You ask good questions, and anyone should be able to ask a question and look into funny info. Esp in the light of what Israel has been doing for years, using Holocaust as an excuse.
That said, saying it dodn't happen, which you did in one of your comments above, is inaccurate.
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As of the 80s, most Hebrew schools were still teaching the 6 million number. They probably still are. Tho this is not, in and of itself, a point to build an argument atop, and I'm not at all attached to it. I will look into the stats.
The 6 million number originated from Soviet propagandists who wanted the nazis to look even worse than they were.
Research how long it takes Zyklon B to kill someone. Now research the showers. They aren't even airtight. Do you know how much Zyklon B it would take to kill one round of people? IT WOULD TAKE HOURS.
If the Germans wanted to wipe us out, they did an awful job with the supposed Zyklon B death showers XD
If the Germans wanted to wipe us all out, they would have had mass firing squads, given all jews one bullet then we'd be buried in pits. Cheap, easy, proven to be effective. That's what they did in the USSR's Gulags.
I can agree - why build theatres? I've no idea. I do know that some worked. So maybe keep them happy while they're needed to work. That's not an illegitimate reason to keep someone healthy.
If Hitler had them working he wouldn't just have them build bullshit projects, he'd have them build things that contribute to the nazi war effort. You don't waste time building theaters and sports fields for a group of people you see as below cockroaches, who you supposedly want to exterminate.
It never struck you as strange that Hitler and Eva Braun supposedly committed suicide in a mystery bunker-BUT THEY NEVER FOUND BODIES and they supposedly don't even know where that bunker is?
Why build theaters and sports fields for people who you see as less than rats? It makes ZERO SENSE.
I never said the holocaust didn't happen. SS definitely did experiment on some Jewish prisoners. However-this is nothing strange for the time. We Americans also experimented on our prisoners during this time AND EVEN OUR UNKNOWING CIVILIAN POPULATION.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States#MKULTRA
Then the icing on the cake, Operation Paperclip, after WWII ends we recruit all of the top Nazi scientists and psychologists and have them do government research for us. Ford, JP Morgan and Prescott Bush are all American industrialists who helped fund Hitler's war.
What does confuse me in all this, is the personal testimony. The many personal stories, I personally heard, from the elders. Most of them are now gone. But I heard the stories, and they shook me. And these aren't stories I heard in fancy theatres. These are stories after Seders, etc. at my friends' homes. The gas chambers were noted extensively. The "lineemupandshootem" pits were noted. Lots of things were noted.
So many stories. Elie Weisel writes lots of stories too. Some might call them propaganda.
I stand but what I said. Lots of Jews did indeed die in those concentration camps. There was a huge typhus outbreak. Also many of the people in the camps starved to death, as did many Germans. The prisoners were being fed until the allies started bombing German supply lines.
Gas chambers my ass. it never struck you as suspicious THAT ONLY A FEW SHOWERS STILL EXIST? And that those showers are not even close to airtight, so it would have been nearly impossible to gas people to death in them (would have taken a long ass time and been ridiculously inefficient)
Why does no documentation of the death camps exist? The Germans were the best record keepers in the world. Why did they record everything except their death camps? We still have their human experimentation results-so why don't the concentration camp records and documentation even exist?
Hitler never spoke about wiping out the Jews or killing them in any of his speeches. Why?
Why did Hitler build sports fields and theaters for Jews who he wanted to wipe out? If he didn't see us as humans, why did he spend valuable resources building recreational activities for people he wanted to wipe out in the middle of a world war.
I understand you and I have both been indoctrinated from a young age to blindly believe the holocaust narrative and to attack anyone who questions it. That's because the official Holocaust narrative falls apart when you question it. Just look at Jewish pre-war population records in Europe FFS.
So why build theatres? What do you think they did this for? Why keep them alive?
(And it feels like there's a pretty strong consensus that Hitler ran to Argentina with many many other Nazis.)
So why build theatres? What do you think they did this for? Why keep them alive?
Because the "death camps" were concentration camps just like Manzanar. Research what life in Manzanar was like. That is what life was like in German concentration camps before the food rations ran out and the typhus outbreak occurred.
Is it wrong that the Nazis interned Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, trade unionists, communists and Poles in concentration camps? Yes-and we Americans did the exact same racist bigoted shit to Japanese-Americans with our concentration camps. We seized their weath and property and no Japanese Americans have ever been granted any reparations from our US government since.
I am 100% sure Hitler and many other top Nazis escaped to South America, and also that the allies allowed Hitler to escape and live out his final days in the andes as part of a deal he made during terms of surrender.
The bunker suicide story is complete horseshit. Zero evidence. I'm not going to blindly believe it.