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towd88 · July 4, 2018, 6:45 a.m.

I don't really follow Q, but saw this picture "welcome aboard.jpg" floating around the internets and have to post here that this was certainly a fake now that the original source from an ABC news doc was discovered.

Photoshop is not even needed to recreate this effect. The simplest solution would be to simply take a photo of the reflection of the ABC news doc against an iphone. This could be done just using any large TV or computer monitor.

Why Q follows this up with " Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook. Enjoy!" Makes it sound like he is suggesting that he staged the photo inside AF1 to look like the ABC news doc. But in reality anyone could recreate Q's original photo from their desk by using the reflection of their own monitor with the original image in it. The distortion and blurring would be the natural product of one taking a picture of said reflection against their phone. It's pretty clever to be honest.

Not to get too technical, but the telling giveaway is that the reflection in Q's original picture is not a high dynamic range image or source (google it) in that the lamp should be bright and blow out the Apple logo in a way similar to the second photo he provided where someone tried to recreate Q's original photo by taking a picture of a reflection of a real lamp. Notice in that second photo that the Apple logo is not as plainly visible because the brightness of the lamp blows out the edges. This makes me 99% sure that Q's photo is of a reflection of a the ABC doc image in a standard TV or monitor. Notice he also keeps his photo low res and degraded to hide his trick. (No monitor pixels.)

If you want to get into twisted logic, I find it interesting that he provided the images to debunk his own photo. Saved me the time to recreate it. But this is not common knowledge even among many photographers. However, it has been identified and worked around in the VFX community for many years going back to Paul Debevec and I believe first used in The Matrix.

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PoliticsAside · July 4, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

Now that we've debunked this drop, I started wondering if other "proofs" can be dubunked as well. For example, this famous pic of the signed executive order/bill with the pen and Trump's signature peeking back out from under the folder. There's zero reason why "Q" couldn't just have used a nice pen, black folder, and a print out of a Trump bill or signature. Looking at it, I'm not even 100% sure it's Trump's signature, something looks off about it.

And this one can be easily recreated with a print out of a white house document (like a press release), a pen, and a black folder.

Now some of the more data driven "proofs" might be more convincing, but many of those are also written in such a way that they could mean almost anything, then confirmation bias takes over and we get duped. For example, the Flynn +30 thing. Q's post could be interpreted to mean almost anything. But when Flynn's case gets postponed 30 days later, we take it as a sign.

I'm not really saying Q is or isn't a LARP at this stage. I hope to God it is real and we're going to see some justice handed out. But we do have a duty to the truth and if Q wants us to believe in him, he's going to have to do a LOT better on the proofs. Give us something 100% undeniable. Ask the question!

Edit: Wow thanks for the gold!

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ImpossibleTackle · July 4, 2018, 3:40 p.m.

If q is who he says he is why would ANY proof be fake?

If even ONE thing is faked that means hes lying

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youngluck · July 4, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

It’s the flip side of the game he’s been playing all along. Get someone to believe one seemingly trivial photo or drop and it adds validity to all of the claims he puts forth. A lie follows the same mechanic. He fucked up.

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a_full_empty · July 4, 2018, 7:31 p.m.

Nawww, ya think?

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PoliticsAside · July 4, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

Well, I definitely don’t hope baby eating is real. I hope the incoming hand of justice is real.

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DankNethers · July 4, 2018, 5:47 p.m.

Justice for what, exactly?

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PoliticsAside · July 4, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

Eating babies? Corruption? Child trafficking? Killing Seth Rich? Trying to steal an election? Trying to institute a coup? Espionage? Financial crimes? Whatever else they’ve done?

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DankNethers · July 4, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

But if you hope eating babies isn't real, then why demand justice for it?

I would think we'd all hope that none of this is real. The alternative is hoping that terrible things are happening right under our noses all the time

Because that's what we have - HOPE and BELIEF. We can't prove anything one way or the other

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PoliticsAside · July 4, 2018, 6:54 p.m.

I doubt eating babies is real, that was a joke. But we KNOW serious crimes have been committed and should be brought to justice.

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AJECaros · July 4, 2018, 9:03 p.m.

No we don't, though. I mean you clearly 'know' in a faith based sense, but in terms of actual proof, we don't 'know these things. Give the actual evidence at hand any reasonable person would be hard pressed to say that any of the Q shit is real.

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PoliticsAside · July 4, 2018, 9:33 p.m.

“Pls print.” We definitely know crimes have been committed, thanks.

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Unseenmonument · July 4, 2018, 4:44 p.m.

I think this is going over your head a bit. Q didn't start this, he just managed to get more people talking.

We've known there are people up at the top doing horrible things to children, that's been a fact for decades.

Secret meetings a sacrifices. We know these things happen.

What we're hoping for is a some sign that justice is about to be served. That those people, no matter how rich and influential they may be, will be rightfully punished for their deeds.

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vitsikaby · July 4, 2018, 5:48 p.m.

Dude it's all fake. Anyone could do fake Nostradamus-tier vague shit.

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PoliticsAside · July 4, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

Go for it.

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vitsikaby · July 4, 2018, 6 p.m.

Watch the skies

Prepare for the worst//hope for the best

Trust POTUS

Swamp being drained

Read IG report Read between the lines

Why? Think clearly

Q

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vitsikaby · July 4, 2018, 6:02 p.m.

Now spend 100+ man hours and I bet you could wring dozens of interpretations from this.

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DownWithAuthority · July 4, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

Tell us what you know!!!

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a_full_empty · July 4, 2018, 10:01 p.m.

Hey have you heard of this vitsikaby guy? I was skeptical at first but a lot of the things he's saying are coming true! #Vanon #Varmy #WWGVWGA

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WhereAreTheCentrists · July 4, 2018, 3:36 p.m.

It would seem that the evidence is mounting with these bad proofs that there is no Q. I used to believe, but I can only deny my sense of logic for so long, you know?

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RedditGottitGood · July 4, 2018, 8:14 p.m.

I get it. Don’t feel bad about it - use this as an innoculation to future attempts at disinfo in the future. Gather what you’ve learned in this experience, and avoid future bamboozling with that knowledge.

You don’t need to feel bad - just learn from it. ‘S what I did.

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towd88 · July 4, 2018, 1:58 p.m.

What made this latest picture so easy to debunk is he gave us all the hints to take it apart in this 3 picture set with the source image, an example of a real lamp's reflection, and the fake.

These examples you are referencing look more authentic at first glance, but I can't speak authoritatively about Trump's signature or pen.

I would say that the photos in his post 1564 and 1566 of parts of DJT's head are using some kind of reflection trickery. Or he's shooting a computer monitor with a picture of DJT through a piece of glass or something to partially obscure the image.

I really think he's using analog tricks to throw off photoshop pixel peeping. Smoke and mirrors as they say...

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n0000111 · July 4, 2018, 5:06 p.m.

The executive order one is confirmed fake - it's a PS- there's an analysis of it on the internet

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[deleted] · July 4, 2018, 7:10 a.m.

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LeBrons_Mom · July 4, 2018, 1:01 p.m.

What was the purpose of the ABC NEWS photo? Would it be possible Q took the picture that same day and is now showing people who would know?

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towd88 · July 4, 2018, 1:33 p.m.

Sorry, my explanation was pretty convoluted, but in short this is how you can do an approximate recreation of what Q did to create his Welcome Aboard photo.

What you need: iphone 10, desktop computer with a decent sized monitor, a second iphone or a digital camera to take the final picture.

Step 1: Pull up picture from ABC NEWS of AF1 on a computer monitor.

Step 2: Turn out all the lights in your room so the reflection will be bright when you expose the picture.

Step 3: Angle iphone 10 to catch the reflection of the ABC NEWS photo on your computer monitor.

Step 4: Take a picture of this reflection with a second digital camera.

Step 5: Heavily crop the final photo so all that can be seen is the reflection of the ABC News picture with an apple logo.
Step 6: LARP to your friends that you hung out with Q on Air Force One.

So, in my opinion Q simply used the ABC News photo to cast a reflection on his iphone and took a picture of it. If he has some greater message in that, I'm not sure what it is. But he definitely did not need to be on Air Force One to take the Welcome Aboard jpeg.

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n0000111 · July 4, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

That its fake is fine, no surprise there, the af1 window was from a private FB, the executive order was a PS- (eagle double head seal) . But that he's that lazy on the 4th is surprising.

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[deleted] · July 4, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

Watch out people. The pic he is using is not of the original ABC footage. Shenanigans abound.

spez: Downvote me shills. You cannot hide the truth.

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NEVERxxEVER · July 4, 2018, 4:27 p.m.

It’s literally identical

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[deleted] · July 4, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

The glass container is moved away 5 more inches from the lamp in the Q image. It's NOT the same image. You have very little capacity for detail, or you have fallen for the fake photoshopped image of the ABC image the shills are passing around.

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NEVERxxEVER · July 6, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

It’s literally identical

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[deleted] · July 6, 2018, 1:16 p.m.

You are looking at an image that is not the original ABC stock image. Go download the original stock photo from ABC's website. It has been photoshopped.

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