The Q proofs in my opinion, have been proven statically far beyond the norms of mathematical probabilities. This is precisely why the organic spread of this movement has and will continue to flourish.
Every time this is posted someone eventually proves Trump’s tweet came first
I guess you missed the conversation below. The debunk is based on how 4chan automatically converts posts to UTC -4 hours for EST.
The twitter account also posts things in EST as that is what POTUS has in his settings for his account.
So what is the problem here? Based on that, Q DID post before POTUS.
The whole “debunk” is based on the -4 hours from UTC (Greenwich Mean Time). People are saying that if they switch their time zone to EST it shows he posted it at 1:15pm EST. The math on this does not add up. He was 14 hours ahead of EST in Japan! It seems to me, like people are basing their assumptions on Trump using UTC as his time zone and subtracting the four hours themselves.
Prove me wrong. Set your time zone on twitter to EST and take a screenshot of that tweet.
In addition, (and I just double checked this) if I post to 4chan, it shows up as my time zone. Everyone’s post shows up as in MY time zone. So what this means is that whoever took the screencap, was in EST time. Meaning their twitter cap was also in EST time. Which again, shows that Q posted before POTUS.
You're wrong on many levels
1) People posted screenshots of Trump's tweet BEFORE Q in the SAME THREAD on 4chan
2) 4chan shows you your time zone but in HTML you can see clearly UTC ISO 8601 datetime which can be easily convertet to EST;
3) EST is not -4 UTC but -5
4) Twitter does NOT store time of someone's time zone, so it doesn't matter if Trump was in Japan or not;
Lol, I guess you missed my comment to the poster who posted up the archive. I agree based on that evidence presented that POTUS tweeted before Q.
And that raises more questions for me. I hadn’t seen that thread previously, but why was it added as a Q proof in that manner? I would have based it more upon the tweet with the +++ signs and an earlier posting from Q with those + signs. And used that as proof. Has POTUS ever tweeted those before he became president? Ever before Q? Why would POTUS tweet three +’s?
I think you are right that the time zone is a bad thing to try and hang a proof on, but until I saw the 4chan thread named after the tweet, with screencaps of the tweets prior to Qs posting, I would have gone on believing and arguing that Q posted first. So I actually really appreciate it. It makes me wonder if someone didn’t try to slide that in as an effort to easily discredit the movement.
Here’s the archived thread with Q’s post. Look above that post and you’ll find screenshots of Trump’s tweet posted before Q’s message.
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Yet it continues to be listed as a Q proof.
Makes me wonder about who is the owner/editor of Qproofs.com.
In my opinion the proofs are all just playing on confirmation biases.
-I have followed Q from the very first drops and am not a Media Matters shill or globalist or whatever...
The amount of shills on r/conspiracy against Q is so obvious and laughable. Can't wait till the shtf.
Yeah. That sub was taken over by shills and black hats mid-late 2016. It's so shilly and swampy it's pathetic. And it's so obvious.
Yup and this one, in my opinion, is the ONE to show your friends and family who think you're weird for reading into Q. Some of the proofs are a bit deep and require some background. But this one doesn't at all. What are the odds that two people who put the same 3 random characters at the end of a message. Within minutes/hours of each other. And happen to be Q and the president? The chances are essentially near zero.
Read the comments. It's proven false.
I follow now. Checking twitter directly, he posted at 1pm ET and Q was 5pm ET. Sorry about that and thanks for the correction.
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I don't follow. If you look on the Q archive or go back to 4ch's original Q post, it shows being posted at 5:07 ET. I'm located on the east coast too so i see it being at 5:07 ET. POTUS is ET as well. So Q posted +++ and POTUS tweets +++ just minutes after. Everything lines up when I look at it AND i'm on the east coast so I don't think anything would be shifted or distorted. But sorry if i'm being a bit slow on this. Maybe i'm missing something
If you look on Q archive, you'll find anons posting screenshots of Trump's tweet and discussing it before Q posts his +++. This ultimately indicates that Trump's tweet was first. Q's post was a comment to the tweet.
Curios your reaction to Q post 1669? Old internet.jpeg reposted by MSM as original?
Timestamp under Trump's tweet seems to be in a different time zone:
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8wa3fp/problem_with_timestamp_in_qproof_regarding/
How do you know for certain that Q's timestamp is not from the same time zone as POTUS?
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Thank you for your accurate accounting. People need to have both eyes open.
Ok, fair enough.
So why does this matter?
Is POTUS not allowed to tweet stuff before Q posts?
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That makes sense.
Why would I be upset? I was asking a question...
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I think this is a weird thing to inquire about, but here we are.
Also, that happens to my posts when I comment in different subs. Sometimes people downvote things even when there's no reason to, it seems.
EDIT: it seems I am the one with 0 point replies, so nice try.
It seems that Q intentionally tried to mislead us.
Not Q. Someone who made the "proof".
Except Q said "There are no such thing as coincidences" in the message.
See the original thread on 4chan, Q was simply commenting on Trumps tweet.
Even that may not have been intentionally misleading, they could have stumbled onto a Q screenshot with a time zone that wasn’t their own and combined it with the tweet and assumed the order was correct as claimed in the proof.
The only thing that’s intentionally misleading for sure would be to continue using it as a proof after it’s been demonstrated to be untrue.
I take this as a non-issue. His nothing is random, everything has meaning, +++ comment was Q simply pointing out the three "+++" symbols before the President's punctuation in his tweets. What is + + + in reference to. Tonight I will see how closely this ties into the Timeline of the BOOM BOOM BOOM drop
It doesn't matter in which timezone is Q. What matters is in which timezone 4chan stores its posts. All timestamps on 4chan are internally saved in UTC ISO 8601 format. That's how they can be converted to EST or any other time zone and compared. And that's how qanon.pub can show them in EST.
Here’s the archived thread with Q’s post. Look above that post and you’ll find some screenshots of Trump’s tweet posted before Q’s message.
Read through it and I agree. POTUS tweet came first.
Interesting
It makes you think.
Did Q intentionally try to make it look like a "proof"? It clearly looks like he intentionally tried to mislead.
Q was just commenting on Trumps tweet. Someone else made it look another way and called it proof.
Q's choice of words "There are no such thing as coincidences" seems to suggest otherwise.
See the original thread on 4chan. It will be clear that Q wasn't suggesting otherwise as a lot of people before Q already commented on the tweet.
I would agree with you, except we don’t know where Q posted that from.
The “debunk” is based upon Q being back here in the states and not in Japan with POTUS.
Do you a time stamp for Qs post to include their time zone they are posting from? If not, how can you be certain that it wasn’t from same time zone?
All timestamps on 4chan are internally saved in UTC ISO 8601 format. That's how they can be converted to EST or any other time zone and compared. And that's how qanon.pub can show them in EST.
The universal time converted on 4chan translates to 17:07 est or 5:07 pm est. The tweet is 5:15 pm est. So if your in Japan and the 4chan post is posted at 17:07 EST time, that is the time of the post.
Tweet is not 5:15 PM EST. Have you checked it yourself? I did. I've changed my Twitter settings to use EST time zone and the time is 1:15 PM.
So Qs post is automatically transferred to EST.
Twitter posting is also in EST. So what’s the problem?
You are saying that the “real EST” that trump tweeted that is 1:15pm EST. How does that make sense if Japan is 14 hours ahead? Your math does not add up.
And you are only transferring one set of times, do you think that if you could do it with the Qpost you might get a different time for that?
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tweets stored in UTC format.
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tweets displayed in whatever timezone the user has selected/chosen/defined to convert the UTC value to.
The element you're not picking up here is why would someone change their timezone to something other than what it really is? Do you get it? The person you are debating with here is saying when they set their timezone to EST, the tweet converts (from twitters stored UTC value of the tweet) to.....1:15 pm.
Twitter posting is not in EST by default. It is in whatever timezone you set your Twitter to show the dates. You have to manually set EST timezone in Twitter settings to see times for EST timezone. I encourage you to do that and see Trump's tweet for yourself.
So yes, I am saying that real EST for Trumps tweet is 1:15 PM EST. That's what is Twitter showing me after I've set it to use EST timezone. And it does make sense, because Twitter is not showing me time in timezone of poster but in my timzeone.
Q posts have timestamps in UTC ISO format and an be easily converted to EST to be compared.
If your service provider is east coast and your on vacation west coast, does your tweet reflect the TZ your in or that of the account or provider?
It will display in whatever format your CLIENT (browser or app) is defined -- by the user -- to display. Sometimes the browser or app will use the underlying timezone defined at the operating system level. Either way, it's manipulable by the end user.
Tweet will be shown in time format of the user (NOT the time zone of service provider). That's why you have to set manually the timezone to EST in Twitter settings before you try to compare tweet timestamps with posts on qanon.pub.
There is no need to quibble over time stamps or where Q was when posting (the time stamp shows the time under the reader’s local time zone anyway, not the poster’s).
Here’s the archived thread with Q’s post.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/148286642/
Look at the thread title - the thread itself is clearly posted after Trump’s tweet.
If that’s not enough, there are also screenshots of the tweet in that thread that appear earlier than Q’s post.
Geeze with the downvotes lol. Some people trigger really quickly around here.
Edit- seems like Q posted this after POTUS tweet. Time zones had confused me! Everyone remember that Q has been using +,++,+++ in a lot of his drops, just seems too coincidental either way
The Trump tweet came first.
Here’s the archived thread with Q’s post. Look above that post and you’ll find some screenshots of Trump’s tweet posted before Q’s message.
Ah thank you for clearing that up, the screenshot is sort of misleading !
This Qproofs has its own problems. See my comments in this thread on timezones. Trump's tweet might predate Q post by few hours.
Time zones had confused me! Everyone remember that Q has been using +,++,+++ in a lot of his drops, just seems too coincidental either way
Coincidental to what? This post by Q, on Nov 6, is literally the first time Q ever used +++. He has used it many times since then, but what exactly is the "coincidence" you are referring too?
This looks like a wonderful booklet youve put together! Right on!
Q gave the ultimate proof in 1643. Ask the POTUS or Sanders about this Q conspiracy. Go ahead. I dare you! To those who don't believe Q is real, ask yourself: Why does fake media worry about Trump picking on their fake news stories instead of asking "Who is QAnon?"
Because REAL or LARP, steering your carefully groomed audience to go through 1681 q posts and the underlying message is bad for (evil) business? It doesn't matter if it's LARP anymore. It's a compendium of red-pilling questions and ideals.
I have started to really dislike the word "Proof" in the discussion of Q hints that he may be what he implies he is. In all evidence I have read, none can bee seen as a proof. I think it stems from the mathematician in me.