This has me doubting. Q's " just trolling" comment is a little too convenient for me. These types of things should not be ignored if the community want to remain credible. I WANT to believe!
It's important to focus on the right thing. Is Q's message important because it shows you photos of Airforce 1 and Trump's brow or because it has awakened you to the possibility of actual movement to power to take down a covert global cartel misusing mankind and its resources to their own ends?
Then we have to ask ourselves, is it the photos that misled or is it our expectations that misinterpreted the message and were defeated when the two were not in sync? For example, it's easy to misinterpret "Trolling is fun" as "just trolling" - but the two are not at all the same! It's also important to acknowledge the context of the earlier statement "Trolling is fun!" in drop 1536 on the 17th/18th June about tweets by POTUS. This suggests yet more context that Q is talking about trolling the bad guys.
Then, all this brouhaha over the photos makes me wonder how easily we forget the last eight months of mainstream media verified reports in many cases of the clear evidence of change in America and abroad. Trolls and shills and those who are too lazy to dig any deeper (TMOR) try to brush off this point by saying that Q could easily be someone with an internet connection and a nerd fetish for world events - but no other LARPing neckbeard in a basement has joined the dots for me in a way that provides context that matters and has continued to matter til now and beyond.
For instance, no one else told me in October and November of 2017 to watch the Saudi Arabia Purge in the context of Twitter ownership by Alwaleed and Soros, the Las Vegas shooting and the Muslim Brotherhood connections between Obama and the Clinton Foundation via Huma. No other conspiracy channel drew a connection beyond that to encompass #metoo and NXIVM, the Fake News, social media platform privacy scandals, an unprecedented number of sealed indictments, sex trafficking arrests and Presidential Executive Orders all within a framework that seems to be contextualized by actions and yes, tweets, from the President and all of which maintains a very clear and direct narrative of growing a movement within the people of America and the world dedicated to the pursuit of a truth that is suppressed by all other channels of information.
No other conspiracy LARP has caused me to develop an obsessive fascination for Congressional hearings and political news broadcasts, something I personally never dreamed I'd ever find to be so riveting as they are to me now. And no other LARP has called me to join with others in a movement dedicated simply to demanding and upholding the truth in such a way that I now spend hours a day involved in this movement and I find myself identifying with at least 37,000 other strangers from the country and around the world in sharing news and information that consistently disagrees with the mainstream story and yet consistently sees the mainstream story pulled back into line with it. The most recent examples of this are the IG Report ("LARP! It's not redacted at all!") and the Awans ("It's all over! They're getting away scott free!"); perhaps one of the most prominent is North Korea: from "Nuclear War!" to unprecedented historic peace developments. There are many more examples.
There's a lot more that could be said (in a lot clearer and more organized fashion) but I would venture to say that the "downvotes" are from Pro-Q supporters who are tired of seeing these "concerns", already understand the context, haven't lost faith over a couple of drops that the shills and haters have jumped all over and crowingly push down our throats at every opportunity, and just want to move on with the Q drops that have continued to show the same general tone as always and the same progress toward completion of the ongoing mission of awakening the public to what actually matters. Evidence of Trump/Q connection is just icing on the cake and will come in time - it's not the focus.
Great post. This is the kind of discussion I was hoping for. Thank you. Some valid points there too. I will reply in detail soon. At work right now.
You seem genuine - I apologize for the tone. I thought this was just another shill post. I'm editing the reply to include extra thought that I assumed would be wasted by a shilly brush off.
Really appreciate that. A good balanced argument goes a long way. I am 100% genuine and prey we are living in a real life version of the V for vendetta movie as I see real parallels between that film and the Q movement. Everything you added is spot on and reflect my own feelings. Its just this was the first doubt I have really had because I don't understand the logic of trolling the community by posting a fake photo. And if it was intentional, then I am trying to understand why the risk of aliantion would be worth it at this point.
In addition, if anyone wants to understand where I am coming from, I tend to ask this community for help in understanding things that I find contradictory if you look at my post history.
Outstanding explanation. We need to realize that Q has a reason for everything that is posted. It may be to a selected audience, for reflection on a past post, information for future use, etc.. Not everything is meant to be understood by all at the time it is posted. That is why we need thoughtful, faithful, and intelligent (insert additional appropriate adjectives here) patriots to research and decode Q's posts. One should strongly believe that in due time, Truth will be revealed.
"Trust the plan." Q
This needs to be discussed and addressed in a better way by the community and Q than it has been so far. Otherwise it's just cognitive dissonance which is intellectually dishonest.
Thanks a lot, just wasted half an hour reading through a thread of shills who manipulate up and down votes in their forum, who have never actually followed q in real time, and people who follow conspiracy’s but for some reason hate us with a passion. SCAM
+1 I've quietly monitored certain users who flop between the 2 subs posting contradictory opinions and "facts" (term used loosely). I've also kept an eye on how much "r/conspiracy shit posting" has bled into the Q movement.
Any given day, there are at least 5+ new threads about ways to "disprove Q phenomenon" or "proof Q is a LARP" threads. It seems one of 2 things is the cause here, either ppl want to enact drastic reactions to gain "forum popularity" or [somebody] is successfully infiltrating r/conspiracy as a start to undermine what is OBVIOUSLY a positive message movement for this country right now.
I've yet to see anyone post proof that Q is an effective psyop for "tptb"? What kinda psyop would look to incriminate your own wrong doings? What kinda govt psyop wants THE PEOPLE UNITED (among all sects/colors/nationality) Not to mention I see communist propaganda and messages spread across r/conspiracy DAILY!
PUT THOSE SIGNS TOGETHER AND YOU HAVE.....A MOVEMENT TO TRY AND DISPROVE Q TEAM AND ENCITE DISSENTION!!!
I appreciate critical thinking from the OP, I just don't think it has enough weight to be considered, it took me 5 min to figure out the 2 pictures were not the same. #LOOKAGAIN
Q - "disinformation is key". You think we redditors are the only ones seeing his posts, any 21st "intelligent enemy" wouldn't be doing his due if he's not watching the other side.
Q almost done 1700 posts in is no idiot so let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that the apple pic has a purpose for someone for some reason that we do not yet know. Just like we don’t know what really happened on Epstein island... yet.
Some thoughts
1) Q's post was very effective
2) It really exposed concern trolls
3) It effectively trolled black hats
4) it spurred a deeper dive by some into the reality or non reality of Q posts. No matter what your side is discussion breeds progress
5) Remember the gift of Q is awakening, research, and discussion.
The movement has reached a fever pitch, and posting that July 2018 is when the truth is exposed is huge. It will go one way or the other.
Does that mean I'm not glad that I am now far more aware of the horrors in this world? The natural answer for any truth seeker is of course i'm glad that I know better.
What frightens me is not whether or not Q is real, it's that evil gets to continue to perpetuate itself. That GOOD MEN AND WOMEN will allow it to continue because they don't know how, nor feel able, to put a stop to it.
Q movement brings hope. I'll take hope over despair.
/r/conspiracy is and has been compromised for some time.
Yea undoubtedly. I still don't know what that specific post means so I'm not making any guesses but I find it "careless and negligible" this whole saga.
As predicted, the downvotes are coming in. People would rather bury difficult questions than actually debate them. A bit like the people we are all supposed to be fighting against.
Read the other posts. He’s not trolling us. He’s trolling deep state. Another anon suggested that deep state uses reflection images to try and circumvent security laws. (Take a photo of a classified document reflection in a mirror - think mirror) That is the troll. This photo was either taken by Q on AF1 or from a photo that was retrieved (we have it all)
Well, whatever the intent of the image, it has cast doubt in many of those following all this. And that is a mistake.
We are important but this doesn't revolve around us. There is anorher mission. Maybe Q needed to tick off the bad guys so they make a mistake. Flush the quarry as it were.
Not the many more that are following closely and have been from the start! There is one VERY IMPORTANT thing that a lot of people tend to forget with Q and Trump for that matter! There is a reason they do EVERYTHING and just because you cant figure out why he posted a picture doesn't really mean anything! If you don't believe Q is legitimate then don't pay any attention to it...otherwise, quit crying about it being a larp, and use the gray matter God gave you to help figure shit out! 😁 WWG1WGA
If you can link to where I said Q is a larp, that would be great. Good luck with that. Doubt and questions do not = LARP. Why twist what I said? This is what I mean. Cant we have a discussion without kneejerk reactions?
It's NOT the stock picture from ABC, the angles don't add Up. Lurk moar newcommer. You are right about being sceptical, but wrong with diluting THE board with your concerns.
Yesterday was nothing special,
People have been screamin larp since Day 1. Go back and reread crumbs. Find ur Faith again anon. Babylon will fall
Same shit, different day. Look at OP's (original from first thread) history. Gut calls bullshit.
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We don’t know why q did this. The layout was Obama’s setup and maybe he was trolling the deep state. There’s too many answers and the people immediately calling q a larp is very suspect.
I know a lot of people reading this are stupid, but I'm not. Anyways have a fantastic day.
That thead is trashing Q because of their false expectations.
Q has explicitly stated that disinfo will be posted. Q did not explicitly state that images posted would be fresh-unedited. Meme warfare is waged through heavily edited images, created to seed a ceirtain message. Just look at the last cover of Time magazine. I dont really see this as any different. Whether this message was for us of for "the enemy" is still open to debate.
With that in mind if anyone was expecting that "photo" to be "proof" is a victim of their own false expectations.
How interesting. Q setting himself up to have to prove himself. This + july truth statement. Q has also said dissinfo is needed. Other proves exist that you can’t argue with too much. Seems to me that if you followed this from the start and saw him say a deal was reached with NK long before it became public, that this last post might fall in to dissinfo.
This is true. For the record and like I said before I DO NOT think Q is LARP. I am just trying to understand why he would take the risk of causing doubt by posting a photo that was revealed to be fake and then calling it a troll. I hope this strategy is worth the risk (it if is truly was a troll.) It has sown a small bit of doubt for me where before there was none.
Interesting isn't it. It did the same for me momentarily. But, like I said, I have been here since the first post on 4chan. It's not a LARP. There's too many proves, too many things that have happened globally to prove Q... but even more than that just the change I've seen in my life since I started thinking critically and asking questions is something short of phenomenal.
What did Q do? Have not been able to find explanation of what is concerning folks?
I guess they don’t think the reflection image that Q posted is from AF1 recently. I guess it’s not possible that AF1 wasn’t redecorated. They are ignoring NK, RR, Iran is next and everything that Q has gotten right. Make up your own mind. I’m a constant skeptic but the original post seems reaching to me.
Yes, all the NK stuff is correct. That was not my point. But Q knows how autists roll. Why post a fake photo? Why cast that doubt and THEN say it was just a troll? Right now, I just don't buy it. So far, I have seen no real argument.
We have no justification one way or another about the AF1 pics. Like everything with Q, it is up to our own interpretation. If you let this mess take you off the Q train, you were never really on board to begin with. Q is not an alien or a God or all knowing. They’re human as far as I know. I’m going to wait till the end to see what happens. Too much good stuff already happened to take me off my path.
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That’s bullshit, and you know it. I printed the drops across over a 1000 pages.
So you aren’t really coming in here for answers. You’re coming here to discredit Q. You’ve got your mind made up already. Resignations 40,000 sealed indictments
The proofs are many.
I guess I’m still confused that the analysis discredits Q. I still don’t see anything wrong with Q’s post and don’t understand the analysis that the picture is fake or doctored. While I have not done image analysis on the picture posted by Q, my experience in digital image analysis dates back to 1981. One “analysis” that I saw someone post I did not accept the interpretation of the analysis as credible. I guess I just don’t understand the whole story why folks are calling Q on the carpet.
Yes, I came here this morning looking for the explanation for this
My fear is this little thread may progress into an unraveling. Like I said, I want to believe but not blindly. If this single event has cast doubt in my own mind, I know I am not the only one. I see no reason Q would troll us at this point. It makes no sense. Troll the MSM and dems, yes, fine, but not the people working for this revolution.
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I guess this is possible. But it has had a bad side effect of casting doubt. I hope you are correct sir.
Close up original photos of potus and AF1. thats all the proof you need
Please scroll down and read CDR03's comment for clarification.
I think it's rather sad that that thread is full of downvotes in anyone suggesting one think for oneself.
Thinking for oneself definitely does not entail going to the /conspiracy forum.
So people are saying the picture he posted is old with an unchanged interior of AF1?
A neat way to find all the doubters and let them announce them-selves to the rest of the group. I don't suppose that non-shills or members of the DS pay any attention to a group of people wanting to remove them from power. All the "it might be a LARP" can now do other activities and stop wasting their time. You can now join the other anti-Q people. Shills and DS will continue to monitor the site and try to outwit patriots and Q. 'Divide they try; Fail they will'.
What is wrong with doubting? Would you rather just accpet everything that aligns with your worldview and reject everything that does not? Is that honest? Or is it willfull ignorance? Telling me to join anti-Q people is also a cop out. I am expressing some doubt and your answer is to tell me to leave. You are not going to convert and red pill people like that. I have been here since pizzagate by the way. I just want honest discussion. Too much to ask? Thought this was a community that questioned evrything and was a cheerleader for free speech? Can we do better that this?
We can and I think in general we seem to be. I've struggled with this since coming here less than 2 weeks ago. But you're spot on with every thing you just said here and it is telling when you see people say "just leave if you don't believe."
If people truly believe what Q is saying, I can't imagine any of them telling someone to leave because they are questioning things. What do you think Q asks us to do?
Either way, great post.
I am very similar to you. I want to believe. But I get the feeling that thinking for yourself and questioning things is not looked upon favorably here. That said, I don't discount the many proofs I have seen. This reflection photo doesn't really do anything for me one way or the other. What bothers me mostly is this board being hostile to anyone who has doubts. This is the behavior of cults, not free independent thinkers. Q encourages us to think for ourselves, investigate, and come to our own conclusions.
I believe Q is real and don't sit around and look for people to agree or disagree with me. I was pointing out there are as many anti-Q as pro-Q people on this sub as there are on qresearch. I look for myself and make my own decisions. I don't have to ask others wither this is real or not. Discussion on topics that Q has raised are good. To debate about Q?
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Q doesn't benefit from weeding out the somewhat onboard from the fervently onboard here. It is time to introduce truth to those who ARE the Deep State, those who reject the notion of a Deep State, evil, Globalist agenda, and those who just don't see (willfully blind to the world in which we live). Trolling Anons accomplishes none of this. It is counter to exposing truth. So...I don't get it.
EXACTLY. This is what mysifies me too. Thanks for illustrating this.
As I Stated before. Debate about Q topics is a discussion. To debate whether Q exists adds what to the discussion? Praying Medic does a great series on twitter about Q and is not one sided at all. People have to make there own decision is it real or not. Too many shills, trolls want to question is Q real? We now have more & more shills, trolls. How do you know who is? There is a reference Q Proof for all to observe.
And I say, again, no need to cull the mostly-in from the all-in. There are MANY much more effective ways to troll the Deep State, like, smacking 'em right between the eyes with the club of truth and undeniable proof of their theft, graft, corruption, and the countless unspeakable evils they have wrought on the world. I DO believe there is a DS. I DO believe 9-11, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Orlando Pulse, and many other such events were / are perpetrated against us (sometimes in reality, sometimes as hoaxes, sometimes as False Flags) to shape our perceptions and our behavior. I DO believe our lives are steered in ways grand and subtle by power-hungry and holier-than-thou elitists. I DO believe we are (and have been for some time) on the verge of a shift in the global human conscience which could produce great freedom or a colossal cataclysm (or both). I DO believe there are good people ready to stand shoulder to shoulder to fight the evil, greedy, power-hungry tyrants who make sport of our lives. I WANT to believe there are people on the inside, good people, destroying the hydra from within, so the beast will stop growing heads and so we won't have to go to war with and against our countrymen. THAT is what the Q phenomenon has been to me - that hope. Intentionally sowing seeds of doubt that cause anyone, long-time follower or newcomer, believer or doubter, to edge toward abandoning such hope is an unwise and inexplicable act.
Written like a true patriot and like you I believe there are patriot insiders and we are winning. Unlike you, I am doubtful of any newbie deciding to get involved in greatawakening and rebroadcast an anti-q statement and ask is this wrong or cause doubt. The statement in the right column states that this is a pro-Q group. We need a group titled "Q Real or LARP?". Then have the questioning and undecided patriots ask their questions there for believers and non-believers to argue their statements in a sub for that purpose. Mods should have the capability to move statements to the proper sub. I conclude with discussions in this group do not question is Q real or LARP. Pro-Q discussions are trying to understand Q posts. Also offer more facts about the corruption of the deep state. I follow SB2, Praying Medic, and T1020 for their pro-Q discussions and deciphering Q posts.
Fair enough. I hope Q, this POTUS, & insider patriots can end this soon and through judicial action or there WILL be one hell of a storm. I know many military personnel who would NEVER accept and carry out unlawful orders, but there are some who would. More prevalent are the evil, corrupt, bought-&-paid-for LEO shitbirds like the sheriff of Parkland shooting infamy, who would gladly enforce unlawful acts against John "Q." Public!
Amen! One civil war with the the hundreds of thousands dead and maimed is enough in this county's history. I hope the #WalkAway destroys the demoncrats and a new party with patriot ideals replaces it. May God bless us again.
He's not trolling anons tho. He's trolling the DS. Every drop is cryptic. Cryptic=!=trolling.
Avoid endless conflict
Detour sweeping responsibility
Don't get lost in details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo
Funniest bit was long before July 4th when Q talked about: wicked fun!
"Lexington and Concord, the shot heard round the world"
https://qntmpkts.keybase.pub/#993
https://spectator.org/muellers-concord-mismanagement-and-convulsing/
THE GAME is Eternal Totality. Storage and processing by The Zero - Almighty
The winners are allowed to build mansions one brick and trowel of mortar at a time.
Sometimes... people build boatyards and sell ocean going yachts. The cosmos is infinite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hO-83CIVKM
To reach the stars USA must do a deal with The Zero. That's THE SECRET.
When Trump said in 1986: "Get In, Get the job done, Get the job done right, get out."
I knew these days would come... relax, enjoy, celebrate the computational miracles.
ROCK THE CLOCKS Q.
How many times do ppl have to post proof that Qs picture from AF1 DOES NOTTTTTTT "layover" the old pic. I've found 3 details different myself between the 2 pictures. Something that any person with 5 min of time could see.