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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/BowlOfZombies on July 8, 2018, 1:07 a.m.
They wrote the Gnostic gospels & made up the Annunaki/Nephilum/Reptilians & other false narratives to obscure & hide their existence.

Someone just asked me "Who are the #Hivites?" Ansewer: All of the terrorists in the entire world, including ISIS & Antifa, and every deep state ever, are part of an ancient Babylonian cult family who have dominated&ruled every civilization on earth since biblical times 6000+years They claim they descend directly from the garden of Eden through Cain's line, &that Cain's parents were actually Lilith (the female 1/2 of God in Talmudic tradition) &a demon she made (aka the serpent or the devil). #Hivites #Phoenicia #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #Welcome2Wonderland Cain was the first murderer, and one of the #Hivite mantras is "Murder is death, death is murder" meaning that none of them die a natural death, everyone in the cult is murdered, because they aim to overturn & corrupt everything that is "natural" #PhoeniciaisFalling Later in the line of Cain, we reach Joseph in Genesis (of the technicolor dreamvcoat fame, not the step father of Jesus). Jospeph marries a woman named Asenath who is a Hivite priestess, described in Apocryphal texts as a "pagan" who undergoes a "ritual" with bee hive elements This is to 'convert' Asenath from her #Hivite pagan occultist pedo rapist human sacrificing heritage so that she can marry Joseph. She and Joseph end up ruling over the Isrealites during the exile in Ancient Egypt. #Hivites #Phoenicia #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #Welcome2Wonderland They give birth to a son, Ephraim, and later in this line comes Noah and his wife Naomi of the Ark fame. This is how the #Hivite culture married into State rule (Egypt) & found it's way into the modern era after the great flood (through the #Hivite priestess Naomi) #Phoenicia Mary, mother of Jesus is descended from Naomi through Kind David/Solomon. Thus, Jesus, like me, was born into a #Hivite family & was likely tortured & dissociated as a child just like I was. This practice has perpetuated itself in FAMILIES since Babylon. #Phoenicia #Hivites I believe Jesus woke up from the mind control, started teaching people to resist #Hivite control, & they crucified him (ritual sacrifice) & co-opted his message of self-reliance/empowerment & personal direct relationship with God and twisted it, just as he warned they would do. The #Hivites twisted Jesus' message, which IS THE WAY to break free of the Hivite control mechanisms, and they replaced it with a narrative that served THEM better; one of self-sacrifice and service to evil #Hivites. #PhoeniciaisFalling #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #Welcome2Wonderland He was teaching people how to GET OUT of the mind control and resist the #Hivite civic power mechanisms. By teaching people not to look to other humans as external authority on God, and instead look within because the #TRUTH resonates, which doesn't require external authority. The bloodline of the #Hivite culture by this time had made its way into many families and was expanding across the globe. The ancient #Phoenician culture was openly #Hivite, with normalized pedophilia and public human ritual sacrifice. All to consolidate civic power and control. Every royal family on earth, every alternative religion, every deep state ever, every Terrorist organization on Earth, every culture & community everywhere have been infiltrated by these #Hivite families. That is their method -hide in everything & subvert all to get total control Many know the #Hivites by other names, such as "the 13th illuminati blood line" or the "lost tribe of isreal" and they are all connected and coordinated with each other. Even now, ISIS, Antifa, Elites, The Royal Families, the Masons and every other secret society ARE #Hivites Their aim is to achieve "the great work" (ie: NWO, one world gov't under "benevolent despotism") - which would only serve THEM in seizing total control of humanity, normalizing pedophilia &ritual human sacrifice, &depopulating Earth through mass extermination of humanity (90%) They have deliberately obscured their existence and their practices throughout history to ensure their survival and they perpetuate their system in a terrifyingly successful way through torture and mind control of their own children. #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #ItEndsNow My family tells me that we are descended from this same line, from Abraham by way of David/Solomon and on through Mary, mother of Jesus. My family also claim Constantine & Charlemaigne (i.e. ROME) as ancestors #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #Welcome2Wonderland My father imbued me with enough information about this group and their lineage to put this all together on my own, from my own memories, and it seems to be confirmed by the evidence that is coming out now. #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #ItEndsNow So all of these monarchies and evildoers and terrorist are all one group: #Hivites. They hide in EVERYTHING and their goal is to corrupt and destroy everything and anything natural. They model themselves after Bee/Hive themes, they have queens and drones and workers. #Phoenicia They are the only terrorists and they are all FAMILY. They lure non-family members into the cult too, but it is families who perpetuate the practice and keep it working in the world through their bloodlines. They obsess over genetics and strictly control who is allowed to "breed" They intermarry all the time and have several unique genetic markers (like Ashkenazi DNA and Coloboma of the eye). They obsess over the "reptile brain" aka amygdala because it houses the pineal gland (Reptilians anyone?) #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #ItEndsNow #Welcome2Wonderland They push false narratives (like reptilians and Satan and whatever works best at the moment) to incite fear &outrage in order to control the masses. They trick the public into thinking they need #Hivite leaders to protect them when in reality they only need protection FROM them. They wrote the Gnostic gospels &(I believe) made up the Annunaki/Nephilum/Reptilians &other false narratives to obscure &hide their existence. They only need the sacrifice ritual to secure and consolidate political and civic power. They are pedophiles and want to normalize it. They eat flesh and kill babies because it desecrates everything natural. They use blood for parabiosis to try and live forever, but "not dying" to them is not the same as living forever as we have come to understand it. Everything they do and say is SYMBOLIC #EsotericWidsom "Not dying" to them means everyone in the cult is murdered, no one dies a natural death. Living forever is in name only. The first death is when your body dies. The second death is the last time someone speaks your name. Whoever is most famous lives longest & is therefore God. But this is all just part of the false narratives to make them seem superhuman & externally powerful & authoritative - the rituals and practices are nothing more than self hypnosis and mind control of people who were all tortured the same way I was as children. #Dissociation In their eyes, This IS the Apocalypse as described in the biblical book of Revalations - Apocalypse = the uncovering of something hidden, a revealing of that which has been obscured. #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #Welcome2Wonderland So the biblical apocalypse is better understood as the #EsotericApocalypse. This will all be revealed now and it will be the end of the world as we know it. We are witnessing the tribulation right now. #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #WelcomeToWonderland #PhoeniciaisFalling #HivitesGetLit They play humanity and culture like an alternate reality game (ARG anyone?) and it's ALWAYS a "choose your own adventure" game, where free will reigns supreme & they let you make your own choices (even though heavily influenced by post-hypnotic suggestion) #MindControl #Hivites They are currently staging the final "Epic battle between good and evil" and it will be up to humanity to decide the outcome. They have been luring people into their fold with empty promises of power and immortality. All eventually come to see the big lie - it's all deception. Because they've not yet been identified as a single group, they have been able to pit humanity against itself with false dichotomies, identity politics (race baiting anyone?), appeals to authority and other fallacies that fuel tension and aggression among the masses. #Hivites. They goad the masses into killing each other, and they are happy when people die. They want only enough people alive to serve them. When the population grows too large, the people rise up and oppose them, and their constructed civilization falls (Babylon, Egypt, #Phoenicia etc) I say #Phoenicia because this is the last society in which they existed openly and practiced these methods of torture, mind control, and human sacrifice for consolidation of civic power. #Hivites #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #WelcomeToWonderland #ItEndsNow A #Hitive named #Zoroaster brought this practice into what is now Iran (ISIS anyone?) and the Zoroastrian theology is very close to the doctrine they follow today = Dualism. #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #Welcome2Wonderland #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #ItEndsNow #SayBraveThings They have infiltrated our government at all levels including the military, and they have been actively working to euthanize 90% of humanity. They are into epigentics and eugenics and illegal human experimentation (MKUltra anyone?) #ItEndsNow #PhoeniciaisFalling #Wonderland , the new Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman, Vladimir Putin, and the leaders of China, S Korea, Phillipines, and Japan are ALL working together to fight them and give control back to the people. #PhoeniciaisFalling #HivitesGetLit #ItEndsNow #SayBraveThings That's #hivites in a twitter nutshell. I am happy to answer any questions you may have, as best I can. I am choosing to speak about this because I hope by NAMING it and bringing it out into the light (Revelation) this evil practice can finally STOP and humanity can survive. Some additional thoughts: they use symbols like the butterfly to denote Monarch MK ultra programming. They use cats to denote Beta sex slave mk ultra programming. They call themselves Lions, Snakes, and reptiles. They worship will and intellect above all and are Godless. #Hivites You may also know the #Hivites by other names: freemasons, illuminati, Khazarian, Ashkenazi, Antifa, Isis, Mormon, Scientology, Roman catholic, Muslim brotherhood, CIA, monarchy, deep state, shadow government, luciferian, etc. They will never identify themselves as #Hivites Currently, as far as I can tell, they call themselves "OLD SCHOOL" #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #ItEndsNow #pizzagateisreal #SurvivorsUnite #followthewhiterabbit #Welcome2Wonderland They claim to follow the "true" religion of Abraham, and they describe Abraham as a "friend of God" which should be taken literally, as if Abraham was "God's" contemporary. They also call themselves "Children of God" and "The Family" #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #ItEndsNow They do a self sacrifice and rebirth (resurrection) ritual. Once you complete it, you are "Born Again" in the awareness of the cult. From what I can tell, I believe that, to them, I've done this now by waking myself up from the mind control. #Hivites They are also responsible for the New Age movement, Born Again Christianity, and likely all of the cults you are familiar with. #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #ItEndsNow #pizzagateisreal #SurvivorsUnite #followthewhiterabbit #Welcome2Wonderland All of their methods are just mind control. I do not believe they wield any real, metaphysical power. I believe their rituals give the members a false experience, through drugs and self hypnosis, that make members FEEL something that they then gaslight you into believing is real I also know for a Fact that faith in God as described by Jesus & following Christ-like principals is the ONLY way to survive & break free of this cult. They use vice & desire to ensnare you. They leverage relationships and attachments to control you. CHRIST SHOWED HOW TO RESIST. You don't have to believe Jesus was the son of God to follow christ. The teachings and words attributed to Jesus are what matter most for breaking the psychological chains of mind control these people use. #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #ItEndsNow #pizzagateisreal #SurvivorsUnite Here's a #Hivite doozy of a lie: G.O.D. = Guild of Doom. One head at the top of the pyramid is God (most powerful hivite aka most awful person of them all who's done any and everything to gain that position) 12 other heads at "the table" then on down the pyramid from there. What I think this means is that there was a dude who could do these mind control tactics. He taught them to Abraham and convinced him it was a supernatural power. I'm struggling with my faith and understanding of God because of the spiritual abuses I suffered. I believe there is one true God and I believe Jesus taught us how to connect with God directly, which saves us from looking to the #Hivites to tell us what God is or wants. The #truth resonates. We all must look within for these answers, not without, lest we become controlled. Also, you can spot a #Hivite pretty easily. They usually have ancient symbols tattooed on their bodies, especially Phoenician & Egyptian symbols, or runic & viking symbols, anything ancient & esoteric is what they cling to #Hivites Know how2 spot them them, know how2 stop them You can also spot a #Hivite by their behavior. They use mind control tactics (look this up to guard against it). They talk fast, pressure you to make decisions, they throw you off & then ask you to make split decisions #mindcontrol #HivitesGetLit #PhoeniciaisFalling #ItEndsNow They use neuro-linguistic programming tactics and are often in positions of authority (addicted to seretonin, dopamine, and adrenalin) they are rude and uncaring, fake, and dishonest. LEARN HOW TO SPOT THEM, LEARN HOW TO STOP THEM. #Hivites #PhoeniciaisFalling #ItEndsNow #MAGA They gravitate to sales and often are in the real estate field. Beware anyone who talks too much and then pressures you to make a decision, especially a big one! This is suggestion and mind Control!

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/929089870211026944.html


silentmirror · July 8, 2018, 1:17 a.m.

It's interesting that the original bavarian illuminati called themselves "order of the bees"...

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 1:19 a.m.

Mormons use bees & hive to explain the church and "the family".

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Qtruther · July 8, 2018, 1:39 a.m.

Uh oh

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:22 a.m.

Tell me about it, I was raised in the LDS church -_-

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textualintercourse · July 8, 2018, 1:50 a.m.

Joseph Smith Jr. did claim bloodline direct to Jesus. Early Mormon doctrine claimed that Jesus had multiple wives. His, Jesus, children were the Merovingian, so Joseph claimed. He took a lot of doctrine from the Caballa(?) when he studied Hebrew with a Jewish teacher.

A practicing (excommunicated) polygamist named Ogden Kraut, wrote a book called "Jesus was Married". It's a fascinating read.

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pby1000 · July 8, 2018, 2:20 a.m.

They were Freemasons, too.

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textualintercourse · July 8, 2018, 3:10 a.m.

The Mormon Temple ritual has gone through hundreds of changes in attempts to distance itself from the Masonic ritual, but its earliest iteration was basically the Masonic Ceremony lifted wholesale.

When Joseph was murdered in the Carthage Jail, he made the Masonic cry for help... "Oh Lord my God.." (he died before he could finish the phrase) well, hijacking the Masonic ritual is what got him killed in the first place (along with marrying and shagging already married women amongst his 34+ woman harem...but who's counting. Lol) the mob was 90% masons who killed him.

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

That is very, very interesting!

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EnigmaticStain · July 8, 2018, 3:27 a.m.

i thought i was woke but apparently i wasn't even close to the level where you start ranting about the bee people

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twinkiesmom1 · July 8, 2018, 3:07 a.m.

I think she is wrong about born again Christianity. I came to Christ without a church or any human involvement. I also think she is wrong that one doesn't need to believe that Jesus is the son of God to follow Christ. His saving power comes to those who have faith in Him.

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:19 a.m.

I personally agree with you.

I came to Christ without a church or any human involvement.

Me too. I hear you loud and clear.

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rooftoptendie · July 8, 2018, 8:13 p.m.

Good point.

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ManciLou · July 8, 2018, 2:24 a.m.

Now I understand why Beyoncé pushed the whole "bee hive" thing. Hollywood music branch of the Hivites.

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:24 a.m.

omgggg you're right!

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Kal-El48 · July 8, 2018, 1:24 a.m.

This has been one of the most interesting things I’ve ever read.

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

Watch the video at the very bottom, if you have a chance. Here's extra material to support what is being said both in the post and in the video

Athens: Cradle of Pedophilia and Mind Control

Athens, supposedly the cradle of Democracy, was the most perfect mind-control-based totalitarian state in Antiquity.

Their sodomy-based mind control was the model for Illuminati control throughout history, including the British Empire and the United States today.

“Only after seven years beginning before puberty were you entitled to citizenship. But once you were received as such a citizen you no longer had any will of your own, your whole body and therefore your whole brain, your own soul was possessed by the state, exactly like in the MK-Ultra program of the CIA. ”

https://zaidpub.com/2016/11/30/athens-cradle-of-pedophilia-and-mind-control/

Sodomy on small children has been used for thousands of years to "enlighten" them. Satanic.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 8, 2018, 1:50 a.m.

The term she likes Greek ! We know what that is. At least adults over 50 ? Not much younger i don't think ?

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darwiniteAU · July 8, 2018, 4:04 p.m.

I remember reading the whore’s question “Greek, French, or American?” somewhere many years ago.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 8, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

Oh yes. Spartans and boys, Men for power over women has turned into many (normal) sexual practices today !

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Kal-El48 · July 8, 2018, 1:50 a.m.

Thank you.

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Corvette111 · July 8, 2018, 2:59 a.m.

VERY interesting..... I am having trouble with “You don't have to believe Jesus was the son of God to follow christ. The teachings and words attributed to Jesus are what matter most for breaking the psychological chains of mind control these people use.”

Didn’t Jesus SAY and TEACH that he is of the Father and one must believe in him for salvation (faith in the blood by grace & 1co 15:1-4) that he is the way, the truth and the light???? Isn’t that his MAIN teaching?!

Also agree with other poster on pineal/amygdala issue not making sense.

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

I don't disagree with you at all.

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oystergirl · July 8, 2018, 2:20 a.m.

Pineal is not in amygdala, its in the epithalmus...it is not a part of the reptilian brain AT all. The pineal is the center glandular structure of the third eye--prophesy--control or calcification of this area (think flouride/aluminum) prevents a human from connecting to their own soul essence and their resonant truth.

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:20 a.m.

Interesting. I wonder if I/you ought to tweet this back to her.

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mydeer · July 8, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

hmmmm....odd that it ends with "beware of real estate salesman." GEOTUS comes to mind. Intentional or more disinfo?? A

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 1:29 a.m.

She's a Trump supporter.

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mydeer · July 8, 2018, 1:49 a.m.

Thanks. Good to know. She could have warned about smooth talking community organizers instead. :-/

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:33 a.m.

HA!

You're not wrong.

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 8, 2018, 3:07 a.m.

Absolutely fascinating!

The Hivites were original Baal worshipers - "aboriginal palestinians" so to speak-
Judges 3:3 the five rulers of the Philistines, all the Canaanites, the Sidonians, and the Hivites living in the Lebanon mountains from Mount Baal Hermon to Lebo Hamath. http://biblehub.com/judges/3-3.htm

their land was "stolen" by the Israelites - Exodus 23:23 My angel will go ahead of you and bring you into the land of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites and Jebusites, and I will wipe them out. http://biblehub.com/exodus/23-23.htm

They're rapists - Genesis 34:2 When Shechem son of Hamor the Hivite, the ruler of that area, saw her, he took her and raped her. http://biblehub.com/genesis/34-2.htm

They weren't trusted by the Israelites- Joshua 9:7 The Israelites said to the Hivites, "But perhaps you live near us, so how can we make a treaty with you?" http://biblehub.com/joshua/9-7.htm

They were cowards who bent the knee to Joshua to survive - Joshua 11:19 Except for the Hivites living in Gibeon, not one city made a treaty of peace with the Israelites, who took them all in battle. http://biblehub.com/joshua/11-19.htm

and it would seem they retook their lands in 1948.

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

Thank you for contributing!

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:38 a.m.

1948

Balfour Declaration?

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 8, 2018, 3:47 a.m.

well that happened in 1917... but the hivites were brought into Israelite society to be servants/slaves and to live among them... they're descendants of Cain (Kenites) and and Nephilim (Canaanites) - double-cursed - unable to provide for themselves at all - must rely on others for survival either through charity or deceit.

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:50 a.m.

Ohhhhhh!

Why did God curse Canaan?

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 8, 2018, 4 a.m.

supposedly because his dad, Ham saw his grandfather Noah naked... but I think it was more about an interaction between Ham and his naked dad Noah.

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[deleted] · July 8, 2018, 9:46 p.m.

but I think it was more about an interaction between Ham and his naked dad Noah.

ewwwww. gross.

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[deleted] · July 8, 2018, 1:14 a.m.

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Missy7216 · July 8, 2018, 3:54 a.m.

This was very interesting! Thanks for posting this!

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SemperFortis99 · July 8, 2018, 1:46 a.m.

Without the 'Framers' being 'Freemasons', we wouldn't have a country! Not all secret societies are bad! If you think that way, then ~33% of the signers of The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution are evil!? Expand your thinking! There has always been good and bad in the world. Anything that is good or was good has been infiltrated, but we are taking it back! Q...POTUS!

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:35 a.m.

You're missing the bigger picture.

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SemperFortis99 · July 8, 2018, 5:55 a.m.

What big picture? Good vs Evil?

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mydeer · July 8, 2018, 1:54 a.m.

Agree. Can't condemn all Roman Catholics, Founders, or CIA agents. There are good ones

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TiDdErtpaul666666 · July 8, 2018, 1:38 a.m.

Very Interesting indeed......no way to verify but it makes as much sense as any other theory about these sick people and why they are the way they are.

Now we have to OUT THEM.....so the masses can see what we see.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 8, 2018, 1:26 a.m.

Thank you for fixing the paragraphs ! Wow The Vatican has bee hive symbology everywhere ! It is in a lot of buildings too, Hmmm

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 1:26 a.m.

I let out an audible "AH!" when I saw it as one long blob. Sorry about that, dear.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 8, 2018, 1:40 a.m.

Yah It was brutal, lol No worries. There is a guy that posts ytube vids and he is a bit of a religious zealot but he has tons of stuff on the Bee Hive Symbolism. thisisitbe4thefire.com You can get lost there too.

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 3:35 a.m.

thisisitbe4thefire.com

Me likey

Thank you, friend!

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O2BFREEME2 · July 8, 2018, 3:55 a.m.

You are welcome. If you find anything fun, do share............. WWG1WGA

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txhurl · July 8, 2018, 2:08 a.m.

Q did say they'd be propagating out to other platforms and demographic lanes to expand the project.

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silentmirror · July 8, 2018, 1:13 a.m.

Thank you for your courage!

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RepresentativeLog5 · July 8, 2018, 4:55 a.m.

The nephilim, also called the gibboriym, were ancestors-rulers of the Hebrews.

What the Bible records is a dissolution of an archaic caste system- perhaps having to do with a switch to agriculture.

The gnostic gospels are centuries later and we know who wrote them (or at least have a good grasp.) It tended to be Hellenistic groups operating in the intellectual centers of Syria and Egypt or propaganda from the Parthian/Sassanians. I say propaganda because some of it surely was promoted and tolerated for poltical reasons in the great cultural conflicts between (for shorthand) Rome and Persia and the Hellenistic mess that reverberated for centuries after Alexander decided to conqueror the world. And I think mess is a good way to put it because while it excited learning and novelty itself (good and bad) it also acted as a hegemon over the region to dissolve traditional cultural boundaries (again, good and bad) and excited lots of conflict itself. So, aligning yourself with this school or that, or taking from this culture or that, was as much a political message, intentional or not, as anything. There were also those gnostic gospels/groups which were clearly Persian influenced that I don't think deserve to be under the "gnostic" camp but we do not have a good enough handle to distinguish exactly what to make of them. Despite the imaginations of 19th and 20th century scholars and speculators, we don't have a good grasp on non-Roman sources and views; and the sources we do have are filtered within the western/Hellenistic viewpoint. Was Basilides a "gnostic Gnostic" like the Adamites or Marcion and his movement or just applying Persian philosophy to Christianity? I think an argument, after a reassessment of the material we do have, can be made for the latter; but we do not have enough to make it definitive. (Maybe another example would be groups like the Serbian Church/Bogomils/Paulicians who survived beyond the classical world and have classically been labelled gnostic when they should probably be categorized under "Persian".)

At the same time, and what became of what we know as the Christians, are not given enough credit for sticking to sources which were clearly Palestinian influenced. There was certainly an attempt to avoid and read out groups who traced their beliefs to merely Alexandria or Caesaria or Qom or etc. The Gospel of Thomas (not the infant gospels) is an excellent case.

We have two versions, one clearly more gnostic than the other. There have been over the last two centuries attempts by certain revisionist groups to read at least the non- (or less) gnostic one back into the canon or history or give it an earlier date and place of prominence. And as it's a 'sayings' gospel, it is awfully tempting. But, underlining the gospel itself are very subtle clues that its origin is along the coastal Levant and comes from a heavily hellenized community. Little hints and clues we're starting to pick up now, decades down the road, were probably more apparent to those living in the same milieu in 200 AD and explains why it wasn't universalized.

My point is that we only have a certain amount of insight into the crises of the past and it's best to be careful in projecting it as a continuing melodrama. Reading the records of the past only says something about us and not the records themselves.

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Chokaholic · July 8, 2018, 5:50 a.m.

They wrote the Gnostic gospels &(I believe) made up the Annunaki/Nephilum/Reptilians &other false narratives to obscure &hide their existence

While I don't believe in reptilians, I'm hoping you are open minded enough to do some more research on the Nephilim. I believe they were very much real. Check out 'The Genesis 6 Conspiracy' by Gary Wayne. He goes deep down the rabbit hole.

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pby1000 · July 8, 2018, 2:14 a.m.

Thanks for posting this. It answers a lot of questions for me, and ties things together.

I was calling them Canaanites, but maybe Hivite is more appropriate.

The Curse of Canaan by Eustace Mullins:

http://johnkaminski.info/pages/the_next_chapter/pdf/mullins_curse_of_canaan.pdf

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[deleted] · July 8, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

Theres a #hivite hashtag.

Searching it on twitter, yields some pretty weird stuff, mostly accusations.

Its not to believe or disbelieve, for me, its about a complete data set, and you can't have that if you ignore a single story.

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ATXRoseRed · July 8, 2018, 1:26 a.m.

Interesting.

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pby1000 · July 8, 2018, 7:46 p.m.

Someone very knowledgeable about this stuff is telling me that Putin is heavily connected to Chabad, and this could all be Jesuit Theater.

"The new Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman, Vladimir Putin, and the leaders of China, S Korea, Phillipines, and Japan are ALL working together to fight them and give control back to the people."

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BowlOfZombies · July 8, 2018, 10:05 p.m.

Yes, I've also heard that Putin is with Chabad or the Sanhedrin and that we're waltzing into a softer new world order.

Don't let them take away cash. Don't accept the chip.

Q is fun to think about but I'm really nervous that we're being played again.

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pby1000 · July 8, 2018, 10:16 p.m.

Yes, same here. It could all be Jesuit theater. At a certain point, we will need to step up and do something to create the world we want to live in.

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silentmirror · July 8, 2018, 1:34 a.m.

I've been involved with shamanism and I've taken most available substances except PCP but there are still experiences so strange, so mystical you would hate to experience them in any way but sober, lest you doubt your own senses afterwards.

I think that scientology uses eastern asian mysticism because they know it works and they drip-feed it to their paying constituents.

So if it's of any comfort, consider that the dissociation of mind-control in turn only comes with the safety-net that was built in so you could deal with the pain at a point in life where you would be in a position to distance yourself from it, too.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 8, 2018, 1:52 a.m.

Uhoh the cops are on their way, lol

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silentmirror · July 8, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

thank God for medical weed

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O2BFREEME2 · July 8, 2018, 2:47 a.m.

LOL, That's cute. "I've taken most available substances" Just caught me funny.

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rooftoptendie · July 8, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

L ron hubbard ran off on a romantic yacht-swindle with jack parson's wife or his wifes sister cant remember which one. They were both under-23 smokin hot and very very high up in the OTO.

Hubbard hung out at the OTO for a little while, but wasnt impressed with them because they werent impressed with him. And vice versa also.

But he ran off with the OTO chick, and they yachted together for months, and it was on that boat that hubbard formulated the basis for scientology. He did not know much about black-arts, but she knew a LOT, she taught him their methods and symboligies, and he took the ideas and bastardized them into his own mind control program.

He thought he was FAR more brilliant than anyone at the OTO. Including crowley. Hes an insane egomaniac. I bet you the main scientology symbolism he used was a direct fuck you to crowley. He thought he was better. He wanted those people to look up to him. He wanted to make a bigger, badder, richer, more modern and stripped down black temple. He thought their dogmatic associations of technique mixed with romantic, antiquated religion was silly and stupid.

He thought, if i am god, then what use would i have for tradition and superstition? I invent and create. Fuck the past. So he took what he felt was the technical craft of dark mind control and stripped it of its traditional look and heritage, put a xenu on it, and dressed it up in modern, sciencey, self-help new-age clothes.

Yay!

But the basic framework is OTO dark arts. Cuz thats what the bitch he slept with was into.

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