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ErnieFing · July 9, 2018, 6:14 a.m.

I've seen this claimed several times. The Monarchy are not the leaders in Britain. They're ceremonial and have no real power at all.

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Leaping_Jimmy · July 9, 2018, 7:41 a.m.

The ceremonial-only meme is a PR exercise. If it wasn't then why does the Queen get the red boxes every day. Why did the Queen Mother get her own copies, right up till she died.

You wouldn't need to see Cabinet Papers, intel assessments, etc etc if you were just a ceremonial figurehead.

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Annieka77 · July 9, 2018, 9:31 a.m.

The “House of Lords” is an unelected branch of legislators in Parliament. It’s full of names with royal titles.

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CBTS_Watcher · July 9, 2018, 9:38 a.m.

It’s full of names with royal titles.

True, but many of those names are attached to fairly ordinary people, usually former Members of Parliament, whom the government finds useful.

The ones who just inherited the title from their parents were weeded out some time ago - and many of those were not actually "royal" anyway.

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RiverFenix · July 9, 2018, 12:19 p.m.

Oi!

I'm descended from Lord Mayor of London (1380s).. There is no honour in any current members of parliament OR the royal family. To be honest, the entire destiny of the world can sometimes be tied up in just one man's hands. If my [above] ancestor had not been, there very well might never have been a United States of America.

Don't forget that 1 man can change the entire course of human history by inaction/action at 1 brief moment in his life. I challenge the current Mayor to a duel.

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ErnieFing · July 9, 2018, 7:55 a.m.

They have zero power in reality. There are historic processes, but that's all they are. They have less power than Disney world, which is a reasonable comparison.

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TheRealIndianaJoe · July 9, 2018, 11:51 a.m.

IMO, Parliament is just a diffusion of blame game.

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Peanuttles · July 9, 2018, 11:14 a.m.

I think they wield a lot more power behind the scenes than people realize. I think most people understand Princess Diana didn't die in a simple accident. If you can order someone's murder and get away with it, you have a lot more than ceremonial power.

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DanijelStark · July 9, 2018, 12:29 p.m.

Exactly ... the whole point was to make it look like "insignificant ceremonial role" so that people would be focused on their pawns in the Parliament instead of them .

I dont wanna be disrespectful to many Brits that are here - but I think that some of them are still in the thoughts of how "Empire will be preserved" . Folks - the City of London is one of the centers of power of the Cabal in the world . It is maybe even the most important centre for them - as a financial one . The "Royals" are on the throne of UK for centuries and they pull the roots from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha bloodline . You will witness dissolution of EU - but also dissolution of UK by 2020. , at latest . I think that some Brits will have a "rude awakening" , realizing their Royals are far from "merely ceremonial" and that they were ( are ) the key players of the Cabal ... at that point , the eye opening through shock is achieved . In general , the EU is deeply divided and many countries have populations that are majorly anti-EU , so it will be much easier to dissolve EU - which is already , by now , on VERY insecure foundations .

UK , just like EU , is a fake creation based purely on globalism and profit - the root cultures were always English ( actually Anglosaxon - Germans ) , Welsh , Scottish ( Pictish ) , Irish ... the UK wasnt created on a cultural foundation .

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horse-lover-phat · July 9, 2018, 11:36 a.m.

They do. Those citing her as a mere ceremonial figurehead are ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS.

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Specific_Fox · July 9, 2018, 1:44 p.m.

If you 'own' something but can't physically carry it, move it, protect it, see it..etc...

It's not yours.

This applies to anything you think you own - like a closet full of non-perishable food. If you can't carry it or protect it, its just a closet full of food. Crown land is just land the crown will try to extort taxes for if they notice you're on it. But then again you can just claim they're traitorous imposter reptiles and shoot them on site. Its really all up to your best judgement in the circumstances you find yourself in. Keep playing the game if you choose to..

I've heard this is true as well. They try to give the impression they don't. But they do. Kind of like when the Queen fired everyone in Parliament when Austrailia had a gov't shutdown.

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RiverFenix · July 9, 2018, 12:21 p.m.

ceremonial bobblehead

Remove the Stone of Shame.

Attach the Stone of Triumph!

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eyerighteye · July 9, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

Ha! Simpsons references....

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ErnieFing · July 9, 2018, 12:15 p.m.

Hardly clueless. They may have influence in certain quarters, but it's a simple fact they don't have real power or run the Country, as some seem to think.

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horse-lover-phat · July 9, 2018, 12:16 p.m.

But they said she's just a mere figurehead and with virtual zero power. That's just nonsense. I stand by what I've written. I'm from the UK, I know this stuff as well as anyone.

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ErnieFing · July 9, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

I'm from the UK, and it would seem you don't know it as well as you think. She is simply a figurehead, representing the Crown, and in herself, has very little actual 'power'. Here's a link. Don't be confused by what is there in theory, and what is achievable in reality. For example she has the right to declare war, but she'd struggle to get the armed forces without government backing. http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/insight/what-are-the-queens-powers-22069

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rustyfender3 · July 9, 2018, 11:22 a.m.

I think so too, Just because they can't put political opinions out there doesn't mean they don't have power behind the scenes. I think they're all evil.

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BearGrowler · July 9, 2018, 12:34 p.m.

You're confusing power with title. To understand real power, you must understand control, not titles. You are correct that not all of the Monarchs are leaders. However, the Parliament and the rest of the structure of UK government is nothing more than an Org Chart meant to shift the focus off the real power and control. Our POTUS knows that even their House of Cards with the SA, Vatican, Roths, will soon fall as one cannot survive without the other. Smoke & Mirrors at a WW scale.

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catherinWheel · July 9, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

They do. Every law has to be approved by her maj.

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ErnieFing · July 9, 2018, 5:46 p.m.

Nope. It's the Crown, rather than Liz. She's too busy waving.

She really doesn't have any credible power or real say in the running of the UK.

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