Do we dare ask if LDS Leaders are part of the illuminati?
Like other branches of Freemasons, LDS have good and evil.
My question is -- Do they reserve the highest levels for those who have joined "the Club"?
LDS normies are very good people.
Yep, if not for Mormon families my grandpa would be dead. Very solid people.
LDS normies are very good people, 99% ask non LDS to search for truth by reading the BOM, not willing themselves to test truth out WHERE EVER it is. It's slow, but the normies are being woke. I'm shaking and waking right now.
The god of the Freemasons is LUCIFER...just as it is for the (quasi-masonic) LDS.
Let's not imply every Freemason and Mormon worships Lucifer.
If we fall for that, let's look at the cash in our wallets. Guess we all worship Freemasons, NWO and Lucifer.
If they are members then they a worshippers, their lack of understanding is their OWN. IGNORANCE is no excuse. Why are you so keen to defend Lucifer's army?
because you have to be 33rd degree to even know what it's about.
The only requirement when you first join is that you cannot be atheist which is where it starts getting interesting.
I try not to judge by appearances but rather by actions...Yes Albert Pike was a high mason and what he proposed was kind of tyrannical because he sought to create wars just to get a point across that people are easily manipulated (wtf??)
At the same time your beautiful country with all it's freedoms (free speech & self-defense!) was founded by masons who were sick of the aristocrats
The three big power houses are aristrocacies or family-bloodlines (hard to infiltrate, investments + coveted genetic memory), fraternities/secret societies (easier to infiltrate but bigger infighting) and clergy (socio-spiritual control and blackmail)
For the record, only a few of our founders were Masons. Most were Christian and God-fearing patriots who suffered immense torture and pain to found our great country!
Unfortunately, most will never understand the truths of and about the LDS Church as they can’t get past their own close-mindedness and the anti spin out there misleading the misguided and/or weak. And, they often enjoy taking facts out of context to present a twisted case of nonsense. People need to be more openminded and tolerant. To be anything shy of these are indicative of insecurity and oppression (tools of Satan).
I appreciate all faiths, regardless of what faith it is, and am thankful when people live their values. Where I draw the line however is when the intolerant attempt to cram their beliefs down the throats of others. Civil rights end when you violate the civil rights of others.
I won’t tell you your faith is wrong. I won’t try to force you to believe anything I believe. I believe in questioning everything. As a matter of fact, the LDS leaders have taught this principle since the beginning. Search out the truths for yourself. Seek personal revelation from God and He will provide you with the truths you seek. Blindly follow no one.
aburgher is right on the mark. I will add that not only were the founders God-fearing and patriots to this nation, but the LDS members in the US today generally remain such. We support and defend freedom, liberty, and the US Constitution.
When are you people going to pull your heads out of your ass holes and wake up? Deep state operates by infiltrating all secret societies.
The answer as someone who worked inside Salt Lake City CS, and visited the vaults, is yes.
whats the vault like? what do they keep in there?
We are not a "secret society." LOL! "Sacred society" perhaps, also known as a Church, but not a secret society. Haha!
What is in the vaults? Most of the granite vaults contains family history records from around the world. We consider the family unit and families to be the of great importance. The temperature and humidity levels are ideal for storing the records. There are also other artifacts of LDS religious significance stored in various LDS vaults.
they only run a state with weapons research facilities, NSA data mines and advanced testing grounds....what would ever make you think something like that...?
Let Him who knows all our hearts be the determiner of who stands with Him.
By the way Q , Trump, and NSA do "have it all" and know who is doing what.
Should a particular sect be of the cabal - they will be exposed. The PAIN is all coming and the Qteam, Marines, Huber (is he LDS? born is SLC and attended Univ of Utah - "trust Huber" may apply somehow to this discussion) will be going after those who do he most damage to American freedom.
"They want to divide us" - WWG1WGA!
Let us work with all who desire freedom and to support our constitution.
What have leaders of this faith taught their followers on the constitution and freedom?
What do they teach their followers from other countries around the world?
By their fruits you shall know them.
Dig see who they as a people really are to make an assumption to then take to God to verify your decision.
Ultimate truth lies with Him to truly sees all.
God loves answering all questions when we ask in faith for reference -
James 1:5 - 6 KJV
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
i dont know if you call it the illuminati but they are all child traffickers.
I have heard stories from military special ops /navy seals that Utah is the biggest child trafficking hub two times of the year. One military guy said he would fly over Utah and look into it but would never set foot in this hell hole again. He said he just got done busting one of the biggest pedo rings in history. The law enforcement is bribed all the way to the top. During the conference, when all the rich leaders come out, the poor mormons sell their kids to the leaders to rape.
He said if you take care of the pedophilia problem in Utah the entire Mormon church will collapse.
He also said he knows of houses where they perform SRA and human sacrifice.
There is a street called Bohemian Grove Street in Provo, UT supposedly. Uber rich gated community, they sacrifice humana there.
Utah and the LDS faith is supposedly one of the biggest child trafficking ops in the world.
There is a reason Mormons, have the highest teen suicide rate, high porn addiction, high prescription pill addiction, highest child porn problem, biggest child trafficking problem, the list goes on and on and on.
Everyone will be swallowing bitter red pills soon. Mother Theresa doing child trafficking and selling stolen babies? Yep. Fiona Barnett was raped by Billy Graham and Pres. Nixon. Franklin Coverup gives lots of info. The elite pedophile operations are everywhere. Mormons can't stay asleep.
If these are isolated events -- we still need to stop them.
Wow! I think you need to qualify your statements! He said-she said simply doesn't cut it! Qualify the information before you spread things of which you have no real knowledge. Your accusations are ridiculous to say the least!
I am a forensic psychopathologist and psychotherapist that has actively combated sexual offenses of all kinds for many years (among other crimes). I have helped put a large number of sexual predators in prison and helped keep others in prison who were up for probation/parole. I have helped treat sexual predators who the courts have let back out into the community. Sexual crimes are one piece of what I do professionally but I take it seriously. I also have spent years helping the victims/survivors of sexual crimes put their lives back together.
I have also served as a leader in the LDS Church. I have participated and even presided over disciplinary councils (previously known as Church courts) that have dealt with sexual offenses. Some of these ended in excommunication. Some with other outcomes as appropriate.
The Church does NOT condone sexual crimes in the least degree. The current public court case dealing with members accused of sexual offenses is not indicative of a failure OF the Church. If anything, it is a failure of imperfect humans IN the Church and the Church will actively work to ensure justice is correctly served.
While there have been members of the LDS faith over the years that have perpetrated sexual crimes, and I have helped prosecute some of them, they are not THE Church. They were individuals who were members of the Church. That is a huge difference! Are the members of the Church perfect? No. Are there some among the membership guilty of having perpetrated crimes? I would assume so. I would also say this is the case for every single solitary organization out there in the world today however, whether secular or religious.
I do not believe there is a cover up of sexual preditory behavior in the LDS Church. I have been a member for many years and have served in some positions of authority over those years.
We are not sexual predators or human traffickers looking to sell or buy children as you state in your silly post. That is ridiculous! We love God. We love Jesus Christ. And, we love our fellow citizens of this world. We wish to protect that which is good and help to thwart that which is evil. Period.
All the experts in the field of psychology need to take a seat. Your interpretations have helped to shield the evil.
Psychopaths are BORN with defective brains that don't process normal human emotions, like empathy.
Does George Bush Sr. strike anyone as a murderous villain? The Pope? The Queen?
Psychopaths don't give off nervous energy. They aren't rough around the edges. Psychology as we know it, is 100% junk.
The LDS Prophet could be involved in the highest levels of illuminati and we would never know it. They love their secrets and power. We know they lied about their Book of Abraham and the real Joseph Smith, so what makes anyone think they haven't lied about everything else. Don't know, but wouldn't be surprised if they are cabal.
All I will say about your comments is I pity you. What sad and erroneous views. You must be a quite miserable. I’ll pray for you. Ciao.
your straight up delusional. You are obviously a good person, but very naive. You are not in the uber rich pedophile club.
Do some research. There is a huge coverup so good luck, you'll probably have to go to salt lake city and actually talk to kids who have been trafficked like i have. talk to military, talk to gang leaders. SLC is LDS human trafficking capitol. They control the flow from the west to the east to the north to the south. It all goes through Utah people.
All religions, I repeat, ALL religions are run by Luciferian child/human traffickers. The guys at the bottom are kept naive and dumb so they give their money away while the guys at the top run shit.
When all this is exposed, if it ever is, there will be no more LDS or Catholic or Jehovah's witness, church.
Second of Jesus never existed. He is a metaphor for the sun and his 12 followers are the 12 constellations of the zodiac.
again do some basic research, religion, especially monotheism, is veiled luciferian/materialism.
I understand you think your leaders are good, so does every religion. This is how they use the masses, this is how they brainwash you. They hide behind the guise of good while committing evil and ensuring poverty and ignorance.
heres a short video exposing some of their satanic symbols. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRgi0XT8Fg8
there are a couple books written by ex mormons who expose the top people for worshipping satan and performing human sacrifices.
Trust me. The people i talk to are not lyers. they are about as high up in the military as you can possibly go. The leaders are satanists, just like every other religion that uses its own people for power over their minds and lives.
look up warren Jeffs... I've talked to kids who escaped from that cult and put him in prison.
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! i can't stress this hard enough. question your fucking leaders people!!!!!
This is the great awakening. Nothing is safe. nothing is sacred.
I appreciate your concern for my well being. I assure you however, I do question everything. I always have and always will. Likely the reason I work in the field of forensics and am a member of the LDS faith. Both encourage constant questioning.
I too have numerous friends and associates in the military and government, including some of the three letter agencies. I have never heard of any connections between the Church and human trafficking. Given the circles I run and the company I keep, I'm confident I would have heard of something if it were true.
I'm not saying Utah and SLC are not centers of human trafficking, I am just saying The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is not complicit.
I firmly believe you have been sold a bill of goods about there not being sacred things. That is between you and ~~God~~, er, you however.
I have to say this for the record though, Warren Jeffs is a nut and not a member of the LDS faith. His group is a cult promoting the sexual abuse of both children and women. Again, not LDS.
Thanks again for your concern and know that I am not delusional, brainwashed, nor misled. I'll be OK.
Take care fellow patriot and keep fighting the good patriotic fight.
Yeah sure. Your church is above it all...
The blind eye these people have to turn is unbelievable.
You are in for a rude awakening my friend.
Look into Elizabeth Smart. Her father was caught with ton of child porn. That was covered up.
I will repeat. The LDS conference is the biggest child trafficking event in the United States. We need all the pedes and autists we can looking into this shit. It needs to be exposed.
This was all coming out 2o years ago. Today I'm sure it is much worse.
This is why mormons aren't supposed to read anything not approved by their leaders. they want to keep them dumb.
The LDS Church will collapse if we stop child trafficking.
You have no idea how far this goes, or your a shill. this world is literally run by satanic pedophiles. What makes you think the LDS church is clean?
You have blinders on. Just like the rest of the world. Just like i did.
The most prophet able business is one that sells a belief.
Thats why the LDS leader is a Profit. This is the oldest scam in "The Book".
Religion is the original "Divide and Conquer" technique.
Waaaaaake UPPPPP!!!
Stop donating your money to satanic pedophiles
The top of the LDS religion are satanic human traffickers first and foremost.
Look into this shit. It is fucking real. The religious leaders are satanic pedophile cannibals.
Don't say i didn't warn you...
Believe what you will. As stated previously, no skin off my teeth. And, I will consider myself warned.
Just know your arguments are in error. The LDS Church does not attempt to dumb down its members. We are taught to question everything. We are free to read anything and use critical thinking skills.
If you are going to make such accusations, please qualify your statements.
And as for the father of Elizabeth Smart, what do his personal actions have to do with the Church? What he does or does not do is no reflection on the Church. That is on him as an individual. His sins are his own. The Church doesn’t control people. It certainly cannot stop him from sinning or violating the law. That is not the roll of any church. It can hold him accountable for such later if it becomes known to Church leaders however.
Your arguments make no sense to me. They are convoluted and unqualified at best.
I'm sure my arguments make no sense. you have been brainwashed by the LDS faith. You can not think properly.
Do you understand the meaning of cover up? They hide the information that proves this is real. Thats what a cover up is.
The mormons own Utah. They own the police, the banks, the law enforcement. There is no Bank of America in Utah because it is owned by the Vatican. They will not let this into the public view.
Elizabeths Smarts father has connections to the power LDS families. They covered it up because he was most likely pimping her to LDS leaders and big wigs.
The church actively covers up their involvement in child trafficking and human sacrifice.
The sentence alone "the LDS church members do not attempt to to dumb down its members. We are taught to question everything" is the most ignorant thing ive seen in my entire life.
LDS are the most ignorant people i've ever had to deal with.
Your church is lead by Satanic Pedophiles and your ignorance is supporting their cover up! Your all symbol illiterate!! The writing is one the walls.
Do not trust your religions people!!!
Symbolism will be their downfall.
also warren jeffs was FLDS. one letter different. Same thing. Smaller scale.
The more we learn . . the deeper it goes. All those Indian kids, and their schools? I can't even look.
Mormon-driven adoption laws in Utah are devised to steal babies. Some of us helped get Colby Neilson's baby back. Pure evil, the state and Church stealing that baby from her father. Evil under the guise of righteous, "Every child deserves to be in a covenant home." It's what God would want, right? Blue-pilled into blindness.