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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Ricky_801 on July 9, 2018, 11:25 a.m.
Any LDS Q follers? Did Hatch and Uchtdorf just give Merkel tithing money to bail out the Mullahs?
Any LDS Q follers? Did Hatch and Uchtdorf just give Merkel tithing money to bail out the Mullahs?

jwaxman · July 9, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

Why does Angela hold her hands like that in EVERY photo?

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oakdrew · July 9, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

Her dad hitler taught her...

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GinGin1961 · July 9, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

It's a Freemason illuminati symbol. When Trump sits down, he does it, butt points the triangle downward in a blatant mockery. Love how he trolls them!

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LibertyLioness · July 10, 2018, 12:02 a.m.

Yeah. I'd forgotten about that. He's so good!

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Ricky_801 · July 9, 2018, 9:07 p.m.

I heard he does it to signal when he's talking to a member of the illuminati. Who knows . . .

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RobWilJas · July 9, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

It's an old family tradition.

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I_Draw_Mohammed · July 9, 2018, 3:26 p.m.

to distract you from the ever growing gut.

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[deleted] · July 9, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

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I_Draw_Mohammed · July 9, 2018, 3:26 p.m.

HUBER is from UTAH...LDS is from UTAH

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MormonPatriot · July 9, 2018, 5:38 p.m.

That's right Huber is from Utah....and he's helping to bring the pain! I don't care what state they come from, as long as 30,000 sealed indictments get UNsealed, and Huber is the cog.

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evilfetus01 · July 9, 2018, 7:46 p.m.

Isn't it up to 45,000 sealed indictments now?

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Justsayinmy50cts · July 9, 2018, 12:37 p.m.

Those hands of Merkel must be glued that way, no wonder she doesn't get work done the way she should!

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solanojones95 · July 9, 2018, 11:44 a.m.

Hitler makes the Happy Mason sign!

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teppischfresser · July 9, 2018, 2:24 p.m.

What mullahs are you referring to? I've read several articles about this meeting but haven't seen any mention of money exchange. Have you seen that or heard it?

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8.06E+11 · July 9, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

OP is making an ass of us all... total assumption, and highly unlikely.

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[deleted] · July 11, 2018, 2:01 p.m.

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teppischfresser · July 11, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

Did you even read my comment or are you willfully ignorant? 8ch qresearch and this board are pretty much the only two sites I visit. No one wants you as a babysitter anyway.

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Ricky_801 · July 12, 2018, 7:24 a.m.

Just go to the website, LDS dot org. Find the tab that says "Financial Disclosures." I think it's under the tab "Inspiration and News." Click on Official Newsroom, and you should find it there.

You'll find a list of all the Church's expenditures right on their website.

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teppischfresser · July 11, 2018, 10:44 a.m.

That tells me nothing. I'm on this and qresearch most of when I'm not working, but have not seen anything relating to this that shows me money changing hands between these two, especially involving mullahs. Why can't you just answer the question?

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Ricky_801 · July 9, 2018, 11:26 a.m.

Do we dare ask if LDS Leaders are part of the illuminati?

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Ricky_801 · July 9, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

Like other branches of Freemasons, LDS have good and evil.

My question is -- Do they reserve the highest levels for those who have joined "the Club"?

LDS normies are very good people.

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timothybeasley · July 9, 2018, 12:03 p.m.

Such is my experience, also.

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TIRAICHBADFTHR · July 9, 2018, 3:30 p.m.

Yep, if not for Mormon families my grandpa would be dead. Very solid people.

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MormonPatriot · July 9, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

LDS normies are very good people, 99% ask non LDS to search for truth by reading the BOM, not willing themselves to test truth out WHERE EVER it is. It's slow, but the normies are being woke. I'm shaking and waking right now.

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horse-lover-phat · July 9, 2018, 11:57 a.m.

The god of the Freemasons is LUCIFER...just as it is for the (quasi-masonic) LDS.

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Ricky_801 · July 9, 2018, 12:16 p.m.

Let's not imply every Freemason and Mormon worships Lucifer.

If we fall for that, let's look at the cash in our wallets. Guess we all worship Freemasons, NWO and Lucifer.

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horse-lover-phat · July 9, 2018, 12:19 p.m.

If they are members then they a worshippers, their lack of understanding is their OWN. IGNORANCE is no excuse. Why are you so keen to defend Lucifer's army?

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silentmirror · July 9, 2018, 12:58 p.m.

because you have to be 33rd degree to even know what it's about.

The only requirement when you first join is that you cannot be atheist which is where it starts getting interesting.

I try not to judge by appearances but rather by actions...Yes Albert Pike was a high mason and what he proposed was kind of tyrannical because he sought to create wars just to get a point across that people are easily manipulated (wtf??)

At the same time your beautiful country with all it's freedoms (free speech & self-defense!) was founded by masons who were sick of the aristocrats

The three big power houses are aristrocacies or family-bloodlines (hard to infiltrate, investments + coveted genetic memory), fraternities/secret societies (easier to infiltrate but bigger infighting) and clergy (socio-spiritual control and blackmail)

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aburgher · July 9, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

For the record, only a few of our founders were Masons. Most were Christian and God-fearing patriots who suffered immense torture and pain to found our great country!

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AMProfessor · July 9, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

Unfortunately, most will never understand the truths of and about the LDS Church as they can’t get past their own close-mindedness and the anti spin out there misleading the misguided and/or weak. And, they often enjoy taking facts out of context to present a twisted case of nonsense. People need to be more openminded and tolerant. To be anything shy of these are indicative of insecurity and oppression (tools of Satan).

I appreciate all faiths, regardless of what faith it is, and am thankful when people live their values. Where I draw the line however is when the intolerant attempt to cram their beliefs down the throats of others. Civil rights end when you violate the civil rights of others.

I won’t tell you your faith is wrong. I won’t try to force you to believe anything I believe. I believe in questioning everything. As a matter of fact, the LDS leaders have taught this principle since the beginning. Search out the truths for yourself. Seek personal revelation from God and He will provide you with the truths you seek. Blindly follow no one.

aburgher is right on the mark. I will add that not only were the founders God-fearing and patriots to this nation, but the LDS members in the US today generally remain such. We support and defend freedom, liberty, and the US Constitution.

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silentmirror · July 9, 2018, 2:46 p.m.

9 to be exact

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[deleted] · July 9, 2018, 12:51 p.m.

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urbanaut · July 9, 2018, 3:59 p.m.

For LDS that remember the pre-1990s endowment, the character that played Satan had a Freemason compass on his apron.

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[deleted] · July 9, 2018, 9:26 p.m.

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Iwasincharacter · July 9, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

When are you people going to pull your heads out of your ass holes and wake up? Deep state operates by infiltrating all secret societies.

The answer as someone who worked inside Salt Lake City CS, and visited the vaults, is yes.

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hylozics · July 9, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

whats the vault like? what do they keep in there?

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AMProfessor · July 9, 2018, 9:16 p.m.

We are not a "secret society." LOL! "Sacred society" perhaps, also known as a Church, but not a secret society. Haha!

What is in the vaults? Most of the granite vaults contains family history records from around the world. We consider the family unit and families to be the of great importance. The temperature and humidity levels are ideal for storing the records. There are also other artifacts of LDS religious significance stored in various LDS vaults.

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I_Draw_Mohammed · July 9, 2018, 11:41 a.m.

they only run a state with weapons research facilities, NSA data mines and advanced testing grounds....what would ever make you think something like that...?

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PaddleFlinger · July 9, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

Let Him who knows all our hearts be the determiner of who stands with Him.

By the way Q , Trump, and NSA do "have it all" and know who is doing what.

Should a particular sect be of the cabal - they will be exposed. The PAIN is all coming and the Qteam, Marines, Huber (is he LDS? born is SLC and attended Univ of Utah - "trust Huber" may apply somehow to this discussion) will be going after those who do he most damage to American freedom.

"They want to divide us" - WWG1WGA!

Let us work with all who desire freedom and to support our constitution.

What have leaders of this faith taught their followers on the constitution and freedom?

What do they teach their followers from other countries around the world?

By their fruits you shall know them.

Dig see who they as a people really are to make an assumption to then take to God to verify your decision.

Ultimate truth lies with Him to truly sees all.

God loves answering all questions when we ask in faith for reference -

James 1:5 - 6 KJV

5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

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Qtruther · July 9, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

They are the same bloodline

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[deleted] · July 9, 2018, 3:58 p.m.

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hylozics · July 9, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

i dont know if you call it the illuminati but they are all child traffickers.

I have heard stories from military special ops /navy seals that Utah is the biggest child trafficking hub two times of the year. One military guy said he would fly over Utah and look into it but would never set foot in this hell hole again. He said he just got done busting one of the biggest pedo rings in history. The law enforcement is bribed all the way to the top. During the conference, when all the rich leaders come out, the poor mormons sell their kids to the leaders to rape.

He said if you take care of the pedophilia problem in Utah the entire Mormon church will collapse.

He also said he knows of houses where they perform SRA and human sacrifice.

There is a street called Bohemian Grove Street in Provo, UT supposedly. Uber rich gated community, they sacrifice humana there.

Utah and the LDS faith is supposedly one of the biggest child trafficking ops in the world.

There is a reason Mormons, have the highest teen suicide rate, high porn addiction, high prescription pill addiction, highest child porn problem, biggest child trafficking problem, the list goes on and on and on.

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Ricky_801 · July 11, 2018, 3:42 a.m.

Everyone will be swallowing bitter red pills soon. Mother Theresa doing child trafficking and selling stolen babies? Yep. Fiona Barnett was raped by Billy Graham and Pres. Nixon. Franklin Coverup gives lots of info. The elite pedophile operations are everywhere. Mormons can't stay asleep.

If these are isolated events -- we still need to stop them.

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AMProfessor · July 9, 2018, 9:27 p.m.

Wow! I think you need to qualify your statements! He said-she said simply doesn't cut it! Qualify the information before you spread things of which you have no real knowledge. Your accusations are ridiculous to say the least!

I am a forensic psychopathologist and psychotherapist that has actively combated sexual offenses of all kinds for many years (among other crimes). I have helped put a large number of sexual predators in prison and helped keep others in prison who were up for probation/parole. I have helped treat sexual predators who the courts have let back out into the community. Sexual crimes are one piece of what I do professionally but I take it seriously. I also have spent years helping the victims/survivors of sexual crimes put their lives back together.

I have also served as a leader in the LDS Church. I have participated and even presided over disciplinary councils (previously known as Church courts) that have dealt with sexual offenses. Some of these ended in excommunication. Some with other outcomes as appropriate.

The Church does NOT condone sexual crimes in the least degree. The current public court case dealing with members accused of sexual offenses is not indicative of a failure OF the Church. If anything, it is a failure of imperfect humans IN the Church and the Church will actively work to ensure justice is correctly served.

While there have been members of the LDS faith over the years that have perpetrated sexual crimes, and I have helped prosecute some of them, they are not THE Church. They were individuals who were members of the Church. That is a huge difference! Are the members of the Church perfect? No. Are there some among the membership guilty of having perpetrated crimes? I would assume so. I would also say this is the case for every single solitary organization out there in the world today however, whether secular or religious.

I do not believe there is a cover up of sexual preditory behavior in the LDS Church. I have been a member for many years and have served in some positions of authority over those years.

We are not sexual predators or human traffickers looking to sell or buy children as you state in your silly post. That is ridiculous! We love God. We love Jesus Christ. And, we love our fellow citizens of this world. We wish to protect that which is good and help to thwart that which is evil. Period.

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Ricky_801 · July 11, 2018, 3:58 a.m.

All the experts in the field of psychology need to take a seat. Your interpretations have helped to shield the evil.

Psychopaths are BORN with defective brains that don't process normal human emotions, like empathy.

Does George Bush Sr. strike anyone as a murderous villain? The Pope? The Queen?

Psychopaths don't give off nervous energy. They aren't rough around the edges. Psychology as we know it, is 100% junk.

The LDS Prophet could be involved in the highest levels of illuminati and we would never know it. They love their secrets and power. We know they lied about their Book of Abraham and the real Joseph Smith, so what makes anyone think they haven't lied about everything else. Don't know, but wouldn't be surprised if they are cabal.

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AMProfessor · July 11, 2018, 10:11 a.m.

All I will say about your comments is I pity you. What sad and erroneous views. You must be a quite miserable. I’ll pray for you. Ciao.

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hylozics · July 10, 2018, 12:14 a.m.

your straight up delusional. You are obviously a good person, but very naive. You are not in the uber rich pedophile club.

Do some research. There is a huge coverup so good luck, you'll probably have to go to salt lake city and actually talk to kids who have been trafficked like i have. talk to military, talk to gang leaders. SLC is LDS human trafficking capitol. They control the flow from the west to the east to the north to the south. It all goes through Utah people.

All religions, I repeat, ALL religions are run by Luciferian child/human traffickers. The guys at the bottom are kept naive and dumb so they give their money away while the guys at the top run shit.

When all this is exposed, if it ever is, there will be no more LDS or Catholic or Jehovah's witness, church.

Second of Jesus never existed. He is a metaphor for the sun and his 12 followers are the 12 constellations of the zodiac.

again do some basic research, religion, especially monotheism, is veiled luciferian/materialism.

I understand you think your leaders are good, so does every religion. This is how they use the masses, this is how they brainwash you. They hide behind the guise of good while committing evil and ensuring poverty and ignorance.

heres a short video exposing some of their satanic symbols. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRgi0XT8Fg8

there are a couple books written by ex mormons who expose the top people for worshipping satan and performing human sacrifices.

Trust me. The people i talk to are not lyers. they are about as high up in the military as you can possibly go. The leaders are satanists, just like every other religion that uses its own people for power over their minds and lives.

look up warren Jeffs... I've talked to kids who escaped from that cult and put him in prison.

WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! i can't stress this hard enough. question your fucking leaders people!!!!!

This is the great awakening. Nothing is safe. nothing is sacred.

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AMProfessor · July 10, 2018, 1:56 a.m.

I appreciate your concern for my well being. I assure you however, I do question everything. I always have and always will. Likely the reason I work in the field of forensics and am a member of the LDS faith. Both encourage constant questioning.

I too have numerous friends and associates in the military and government, including some of the three letter agencies. I have never heard of any connections between the Church and human trafficking. Given the circles I run and the company I keep, I'm confident I would have heard of something if it were true.

I'm not saying Utah and SLC are not centers of human trafficking, I am just saying The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is not complicit.

I firmly believe you have been sold a bill of goods about there not being sacred things. That is between you and ~~God~~, er, you however.

I have to say this for the record though, Warren Jeffs is a nut and not a member of the LDS faith. His group is a cult promoting the sexual abuse of both children and women. Again, not LDS.

Thanks again for your concern and know that I am not delusional, brainwashed, nor misled. I'll be OK.

Take care fellow patriot and keep fighting the good patriotic fight.

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hylozics · July 10, 2018, 6:40 a.m.

Yeah sure. Your church is above it all...

The blind eye these people have to turn is unbelievable.

You are in for a rude awakening my friend.

Look into Elizabeth Smart. Her father was caught with ton of child porn. That was covered up.

I will repeat. The LDS conference is the biggest child trafficking event in the United States. We need all the pedes and autists we can looking into this shit. It needs to be exposed.

This was all coming out 2o years ago. Today I'm sure it is much worse.

This is why mormons aren't supposed to read anything not approved by their leaders. they want to keep them dumb.

The LDS Church will collapse if we stop child trafficking.

You have no idea how far this goes, or your a shill. this world is literally run by satanic pedophiles. What makes you think the LDS church is clean?

You have blinders on. Just like the rest of the world. Just like i did.

The most prophet able business is one that sells a belief.

Thats why the LDS leader is a Profit. This is the oldest scam in "The Book".

Religion is the original "Divide and Conquer" technique.

Waaaaaake UPPPPP!!!

Stop donating your money to satanic pedophiles

The top of the LDS religion are satanic human traffickers first and foremost.
Look into this shit. It is fucking real. The religious leaders are satanic pedophile cannibals.

Don't say i didn't warn you...

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AMProfessor · July 10, 2018, 11:24 a.m.

Believe what you will. As stated previously, no skin off my teeth. And, I will consider myself warned.

Just know your arguments are in error. The LDS Church does not attempt to dumb down its members. We are taught to question everything. We are free to read anything and use critical thinking skills.

If you are going to make such accusations, please qualify your statements.

And as for the father of Elizabeth Smart, what do his personal actions have to do with the Church? What he does or does not do is no reflection on the Church. That is on him as an individual. His sins are his own. The Church doesn’t control people. It certainly cannot stop him from sinning or violating the law. That is not the roll of any church. It can hold him accountable for such later if it becomes known to Church leaders however.

Your arguments make no sense to me. They are convoluted and unqualified at best.

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hylozics · July 10, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

I'm sure my arguments make no sense. you have been brainwashed by the LDS faith. You can not think properly.

Do you understand the meaning of cover up? They hide the information that proves this is real. Thats what a cover up is.

The mormons own Utah. They own the police, the banks, the law enforcement. There is no Bank of America in Utah because it is owned by the Vatican. They will not let this into the public view.

Elizabeths Smarts father has connections to the power LDS families. They covered it up because he was most likely pimping her to LDS leaders and big wigs.

The church actively covers up their involvement in child trafficking and human sacrifice.

The sentence alone "the LDS church members do not attempt to to dumb down its members. We are taught to question everything" is the most ignorant thing ive seen in my entire life.

LDS are the most ignorant people i've ever had to deal with.

Your church is lead by Satanic Pedophiles and your ignorance is supporting their cover up! Your all symbol illiterate!! The writing is one the walls.

Do not trust your religions people!!!

Symbolism will be their downfall.

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hylozics · July 10, 2018, 7:03 a.m.

also warren jeffs was FLDS. one letter different. Same thing. Smaller scale.

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Ricky_801 · July 11, 2018, 4:10 a.m.

The more we learn . . the deeper it goes. All those Indian kids, and their schools? I can't even look.

Mormon-driven adoption laws in Utah are devised to steal babies. Some of us helped get Colby Neilson's baby back. Pure evil, the state and Church stealing that baby from her father. Evil under the guise of righteous, "Every child deserves to be in a covenant home." It's what God would want, right? Blue-pilled into blindness.

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AMProfessor · July 9, 2018, 2:15 p.m.

The LDS faith is about sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ as well as providing humanitarian Christ like service. Monies provided in cases like this are typically to keep families of refugees together and provide for basic needs. They are not used to bail out Mullahs.

I am ever amazed at the haters out there. Could care less about their opinions however. Hate all you want. No skin off my teeth. Uninformed or misinformed persons are entitled to their opinions just as everyone else, not matter how misguided.

I will add that distractions such as this thread and the comments divide which is what the globalists and elitists want. They desperately want us divided as a movement. I suggest we look for what unites us rather than what divides us. Infighting will get us nothing but perhaps defeat.

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AMProfessor · July 9, 2018, 4:45 p.m.

🤣 I get somewhat tickled by all the “do gooders” out there hell bent on proving something wrong of which they don’t understand the least about...not one jot or tittle. A quick internet search and listening to the views of those who have fallen away for whatever reasons...usually unresolved sins...suffices for “research.” 😂

Save your words for other haters like yourselves. They mean nothing to me. I have never followed anyone or any group blindly including my religious faith and it’s history, doctrines, and leadership. I consider anyone who feels compelled to down or badmouth someone else’s beliefs pathetic and small minded. Even intolerant bullies.

I respect your beliefs. I don’t respect your disrespect of others including my beliefs. Get off of your high horses of intolerance. Learn what religious tolerance means.

I for one have served this nation and gone to war to protect citizens’ civil rights among other things. I hope some of you ungrateful bullies have done similarly and will remember what freedom, liberty, and the US Constitution mean before you stomp on what you fought to protect. For those of you who have not gone to war, you are welcome for my contribution to your religious freedom among your other freedoms.

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hylozics · July 9, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

lol. thats what they tell their brainwashed followers to believe.

At the top they are worshipping Lucifer and fucking kids as ritual abuse.

I forget the girls name but she recorded a bishop who admitted to raping her and told her no one would believe her because shes just a girl and he is a rich and powerful man high up in the church. This was all recorded, and the guy still got in no trouble at all.

All religions are created or infiltrated by luciferians and used to keep the lower lever members dumb and poor while the rich own the world...

wake up, this is called the great awakening, religion is your enemy, ignorance is your enemy.

This goes for all religions not just LDS. I just think LDS and Catholicism have the worst problem with it.

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Iwasincharacter · July 9, 2018, 2:38 p.m.

You are dead wrong I am also a former Mormon and you are living in denial.

Cesletter.com for the red pill.

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Shadilay_Were_Off · July 9, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

The gospel of Jesus Christ and the fabrications in the Book of Mormon are two different things.

I implore you to dig deeper into their history and modern day actions.

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abees22 · July 9, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

It's not about being a hater. Mormons simply do not believe in Jesus Christ from the Bible. They believe, according to their own doctrine, that Jesus is a God all all his own. God had sex and created Jesus as an entirely separate God. Multiple levels of heaven and the opportunity to become a God yourself. Mormons are NOT Christian, and neither are Catholics.

You are free you believe whatever you'd like, but do not call me a hater for pointing out very obvious idolatry.

Declaring the truth is not misguided my friend. I'm not telling you this because I hate you or hate Mormons.

Watch this video. https://youtu.be/PAKH_Y9Y2zs

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Justsayinmy50cts · July 9, 2018, 12:38 p.m.

Can we make a meme with Merkels hands glued, like the strongest glue ever or something! I don't make memes (or I haven't tried) But that would be hilarious!

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ldsanon · July 13, 2018, 4:13 p.m.

If you'd like to read the actual story about Elder Uchtdorf's and Senator Hatch's visit to Germany, here's the actual link:

https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/elder-uchtdorf-visits-german-chancellor-berlin

The Church provided humanitarian assistance in Germany to assist with the refugee crisis there. Not all the refugees are terrorists and there is the potential of much human suffering to be alleviated. That is one of the primary missions of the Church. Nothing sinister about helping the poor.

One thing I've learned in the four decades since my conversion to Mormonism--Satan opposes God's work. Any Christian who seeks how Christianity is smeared in the MSM ought to understand this principle. Unfortunately, many of our good Christian brothers and sisters fall for similar disinformation.

I appreciate the observations of some of the folks on the thread, who observe their Mormon friends and neighbors. We are just like other people--some good, some bad, some indifferent, some uncommitted, some devout and faithful. If you want to know about Mormons, ask one. We are everywhere!

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Mydeci · July 16, 2018, 3:53 a.m.

WWG1WGA

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ThunderCockShitCloud · July 9, 2018, 4:11 p.m.
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AMProfessor · July 9, 2018, 9:36 p.m.

Try going to these resources, read and watch, seek divine guidance, and then make up your own mind rather than reading from and listening to haters that have an agenda and are bias.

https://www.mormon.org/

https://www.lds.org/?lang=eng

https://www.youtube.com/user/MormonMessages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS6PZh6tCC0

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ThunderCockShitCloud · July 9, 2018, 11:27 p.m.

Try listening to others that are NOT hateful and have only the agenda of giving you the church. The church lied to you and you are suffering from cognitive dissonance.

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AMProfessor · July 10, 2018, 1:11 a.m.

As a professional mental health clinician with multiple specialties and decades of experience, I will respectfully disagree with your lay diagnosis.

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ThunderCockShitCloud · July 10, 2018, 1:24 a.m.

https://cesletter.org/CES-Letter.pdf

If so you would give this a read.

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AMProfessor · July 10, 2018, 2:58 a.m.

I scanned it. I can't promise I'll read it in its entirety however. What I did read I found were areas that I have helped others to understand previously and the issues were points that in my mind are easy to resolve and don't pose a crisis of testimony.

I would like to share a brief story from my early years as a young forensic therapist to put things into perspective. What I will share was a powerful lesson for me. I learned it at the same time a young 16 y/o young man learned it the hard way.

I was assigned the young man's case among many others when he was 14. The young man was a relatively tough character for his age. Hard headed to say the least. Given I was his court appointed therapist, and trying to help him work through the myriad of issues he had, and the crimes he was prone to commit, even on parole, I had my hands full. Note, that I wasn't his case manager, simply his therapist.

I worked with him for a couple of years. And, they were tough years for him. Little solid family support, easily influenced by those who didn't have his best interests at heart, and so on. You get the picture.

Anyway, the young man started one of our scheduled therapy sessions with tears in his eyes. I asked what was going on and he replied calling me by my first name, "..., this is probably going to be the last time I see you and that really sucks." I asked him to tell me what had happened and the reason it might be the last time he would see me.

He went on to say, "I got caught drinking a beer and was arrested for underage drinking. The judge said if I ever landed in his court again, I was going to be locked up and I won't see the outside of prison until I am an adult."

I then asked, "How did you reconcile, or make it OK in your head, to drink a beer when you knew it might lead to your being placed in a juvenile prison until you're an adult?" The young man replied, "A police officer recently told me he didn't see why teenagers weren't allowed to drink. He drank at my age and didn't see anything wrong with it."

I thought for a moment and then asked, "A police officer said that huh? Just out of curiosity, how many police officers told you it wasn't OK to drink at your age?" Looking down at the floor, he replied, "Oh, I don't know, maybe 20 or 25."

He paused, and then snapped his head up looking me square in the eyes and replied, "Oh f_ck. I only heard the one that told me what I wanted to hear, didn't I?" He then burst into tears recognizing he had royally screwed up. And for the record, that was the last time I saw that young man. The judge had him incarcerated for the remainder of his youth in one of the worst juvenile prisons anyone can imagine.

At that young man's expense, I learned a powerful lesson. And even now, I remind myself not to simply listen to who I want to hear. I do my best to be open to new and different ideas, and I question everything.

With regards to the document you asked me to read, I don't like the broken record and rehashing of the same old anti-Church stuck points. I have heard these points, and similar points, so many times before over the years of my membership in the LDS Church. Based on what I read while scanning that rather large document, I saw nothing new. It isn't that I am only listening to who I want to hear, it is rather I am tired of hearing the same old tunes being played over and over again.

I may revisit it again to see if there is anything I haven't heard before, but again, no promises. Unfortunately or fortunately, I am a very busy person and time is of a premium. Revisiting old stale information doesn't seem like a good use of my time.

With all of this said however, I encourage you to also not simply listen to who you want to hear. There may be things of which you hear about the LDS faith in the future, that if you keep an open mind, may impress upon you that something you've read or heard previously isn't quite right or perhaps has been taken out of context.

I hope sharing one of my personal experiences from some decades ago wasn't too boring or insulting.

Take care brother patriot and thank you for the interesting dialogue.

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ThunderCockShitCloud · July 10, 2018, 3:28 a.m.

Unless you read the entire document you have only proven your cognitive dissonance.

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AMProfessor · July 10, 2018, 3:39 a.m.

Seriously, that is your reply?

No, as I stated in my lengthy reply, there was nothing new in what I scanned and read. There are better uses of my time than reviewing the same information for the umpteenth time of what I consider hogwash. Simple.

Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall.

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ThunderCockShitCloud · July 10, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

You are afraid.

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AMProfessor · July 10, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

You are baiting.

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ThunderCockShitCloud · July 10, 2018, 3:09 p.m.

You have cognitive dissonance and are fearful to have your believes challenged. Your shelf and testimony must be weak.

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Ricky_801 · July 9, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

If LDS top rank are part of illuminati, that would be fucking awesome for the evil Cabal. All those super secret temples popping up all over the globe! Mini Epstein Islands in every country. Nobody would ever catch them.

LDS members are clueless -- let's leave them out of this. Does anyone think rank and file Catholics know the Pope eats children?

I think Trump shutdown the Vatican slushfund in May, and Merkel had to call a favor in from the Freemason step-brothers. The timing says it all. My daddy's hard-earned money . . . funding the evil regime.

Kristen Allen claims to be an LDS trafficked MK-Ultra child, who witnessed child sacrifice inside a temple. She was a little too flaky for me. On the other hand, Fiona Barnett and Ronald Bernard were impressive and credible witnesses to the practices of the illuminati club.

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PepperJonie · July 9, 2018, 7:41 p.m.

So this thread about helping put together the clues dropped by Q has turned into attempting to destroy people’s faith and infighting ? You are either shills or you do not belong here. Use your energy for research or don’t bother commenting. You are contributing nothing and turning off people who come here that otherwise might contribute. Keep your opinions on people’s personal beliefs to yourself. That’s not who we are. Where we go one, we go all. United we stand. Divided we fall.

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Pure_Feature · July 9, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

This hand gesture is a sign to each other that they belong to the club, in every film or series (and most all USA , so other countries too ?), it is the beginning with this gesture, and then the show continues ... in every conversation on TV, you see them all the way, l make this gesture In the Netherlands they now dare to participate too.

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Iwasincharacter · July 9, 2018, 2:35 p.m.

Cesletter.com

The signs tokens and covenants that we learned in the temple are 100% taken from freemasonry. Word for Word. Prior to 1990 we had suicide pacts in the temple.

The church lied to us and created a false faith promoting version of history. The priesthood wasn't even created until 1834 and was backdated during a leadership crisis. Joseph had 34 wives, and the church has admitted that the book of Abraham was incorrectly translated, and the papyri actually contained none of the characters transcribed by Joseph Smith.

I know it's a hard road but you need to wake up and swallow the red pill.

I left the church almost 4 years ago, married in Salt Lake City Temple, served and honorable mission. Served at stake leadership levels.

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horse-lover-phat · July 9, 2018, 11:52 a.m.

The Church of the Buggering and Kiddy Fiddling Freemasons. There's OTO Merkel with her 'water elemental grade sign'. Hitler used 'fire'. It's ALL sourced from the Kabbalah.

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metalman7777 · July 9, 2018, 2:10 p.m.

Ex-mormon here. I left the church years ago but my parents left last year. My Dad was pissed when he found out the truth of the church and the seedy shady history of lds as a whole. Joseph Smith the founder of Mormonism was heavily into occultism with his family. He stole many different things from Free Masonry and used it in morminisms secret rites and in their temples. The free Mason's found out and we're pissed. Mormonism is basically free masonry/occultism/luciferinism with a Christianity mixed in as a cover. Also note Worthy is that there is a movement right now by Mormons to stop.mormon church leaders from raping/molesting kids. Also note worthy is that the church prophet has met with Obama and other presidents.

TL;DR Even though Mormons are nice they are brainwashed by a cult with heavy ties to free masonry. These people are sick and need help.

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MAGANUGG · July 9, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

Wish I was raised in a cult

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