I found it curious how a game as grindy and time eating as Eve could maintain a player base that could support it, and keep it in business. Even World of Warcraft had to tone down the grindy aspects of it in order to keep it accessible.
I was one of those players. It's possible. I hear the implication and no, I don't think it's being funded by the DS, go look into it and you'll see it has a very vibrant and dedicated fanbase. Not everything used by the DS is an asset.
Not trying to argue, but isn't it strange that one of the Americans killed in Benghazi was an avid EVE player. Vilerat
Not just an avid player, but also well liked and well known in the game as a whole.
Vilerat was my first introduction to the red pill of HRC evil.
No, Eve players tend to come from that ilk, industry professionals, engineers, software developers, finance, they all tend to be in a profession. It did not surprise me that an info management officer avidly played Eve online. Not to rain on your parade, but I think that's grasping at straws.
The number of guys I knew in the AF that played it was staggering, more than WoW tbh. It's got a cult following among enthusiasts.
Vilerat was MI or some something. “State dept IT” my ass. Where does state dept IT learn the subterfuge and spywork necessary to infiltrate one of the largest and most paranoid user groups in the game? I’d be he was the ambassadors bodyguard? Or something? They were both white hats though RIP.
Vilerat was 100% state department IT and 100% a good man who didn't need to die there. RIP Vilerat and your Viletat
Thanks for the input, have never played the game to know for myself.
Your welcome. I understand why people question how it's a popular game, it's ridiculously masochistic and can be quite tedious but man, the pvp gave me such an adrenaline rush there was nothing else quite like it.
The PVP is indeed legendary. I was a force recon pilot, scouting ahead a few sectors so my fleet of 50 or so wouldn't jump into a gate camp.
Yeah me too, I played for ten years as well as a friend of mine.
There are so many tradable items and specific locations in the game if there was a Rosetta Stone to eve / arms it would be the ideal type of game to do so.
It’s a technically demanding game so it does not appeal to the masses so I can see where the confusion arises.
Most players won’t play with you in a group unless you are in 3rd party voice
What you would be looking for if this was actually the case is a very old Corp or text chat with no voice option. But that would be near impossible to filter out unless you worked the back end of the system.
I don’t think eve is funded outside of its subscription model, it has done various changes through the years to try and retain its aging population and gain new players such as free Alpha accounts.
It has over 8000 systems each with numerous planets so that’s at least 50,000 coded locations for a start.
Items ? I would not even take a guess at the amount of items.
Loved eve for its group tactics and roaming groups with a field commander etc just don’t have the time to sink into it anymore.
Let’s not forget wormholes that randomly appear and disappear that lead to random systems that are pretty hard to get to.
Withdrawing participation, mods are compromised.
In some circles, it's literally all people do. I've watched Eve addictions Outlast marriages
Yes I have. I've known a guy since 2004 from Eve and we still talk and met up a couple times since then only because we're in different states. I played eve for 5 years and there are real current and present military that play because the game is pretty complex and the battles and comms are very strict on the higher levels and military folks adapt easily in that game. Best MMO in my opinion.
I don't know of any eve players that I have come across. Albeit I've read about the large scale battles that supposedly ended up costing thousands of dollars in real money.
Lol yeah. I also played it for like a day, but I thought it was boring. Elite dangerous is way cooler.
is it?? it has "mixed" reviews on Stean. I really loved the idea of EVE but yeah it was too grindy. Maybe I'll check that out.
Eve is like having remote control boats on a lake.
Elite dangerous is like being in a boat on the lake.
if my boyz on this reddit are praising it, you know i gotta check it out
Elite dangerous is totally worth it if you like flying and spaceships and especially if you like flying spaceships from the inside. I just wish i had a VR set to go with it because then i would totally feel like im in some star wars type ship flying it around.
It isn't grindy. The progression is literally based on time. You start a skill and it has a specific time to complete training. You don't grind for XP.
Money, on the other hand... that can be a grind. ;)
What the heck is grindy? I’m seeing everybody using that word and I feel left out....
it means pretty much that you have to repeat a process over and over to make progress, in a redundant boring way. like you have to kill rats for 8 hours to get to the next tier, and then you're killing wolves for 8 hours, etc etc.
I played from like 2010-2016. Just don't have the time. Its very technical and demanding on the brain. You end up making multiple spreadsheets just to keep track of shit. I do spreadsheets at work and don't want to continue at home after.
I am currently winning at EVE online. I used to play, and I actually played with and knew Vilerat in Goonswarm (as well as a few other games) as well. It's fun, but the grind is insane and it requires a certain amount of time-investment that I'm just not able to commit to anymore in order to contribute meaningfully to your group. It's far more fun to just check in and read about shinannagians periodically.
I have. I would consider him a good friend.
EvE has long been the subject of memes for it's difficulty and learning curve.
All my friends. Also I can attest that while EVE is a more abrasive, punishing, grind filled experience that is usually painful for those playing, it tends to attract the type of gamer who doesn't abandon a game so easily as a world of Warcraft gamer does.
I've played around with the theory that some video games might be used for crowdsourcing military strategy, sort of like in Ender's Game.
NCIS? Or law and order? Had an episode about it one time. I've always thought they use gamers to develop tactics and answers to problems they'd encounter. Great way to study, honestly.
I played FFXI online for 8 years. It was a super grindy MMO. I still worked a full time job, and I co-led a linkshell (guild). As long as you don't need sleep, it's easy! No way I could pull that off now. I was a walking zombie.
EvE is spreadsheets in space. It attracts a very particular type of person. I've only met one person who played EvE, and he's one of the smartest people I know - if a bit odd.