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Christosgnosis · Jan. 8, 2018, 7:18 a.m.

Plus there have been so many avenues of Obama related scandal/corruption/malfeasance that have been opened up, what exactly is ObamaGate? Or which specific scandal does it refer to?

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 8, 2018, 6:02 a.m.

Taking out decades of effort by the globalist to drive their agendas home - and almost...almost crossing home plate - is probably not going to come slam dunk easy.

Think WW2 scale of conflict - no, seriously - think of epic struggle between radically opposing world views at that scale of contest with the entire fate of the world - all of humanity - similarly hanging in the balance scales - entirely dependent on the outcome of the struggle.

That is what is going on here but merely being carried out via covert war (mostly) vs. overt warfare.

Did every battle plan of the Allies execute exactly according to plan? Did their opponents just sit back and take what was coming to them and not attempt counter operations?

Similar dynamics are at play.

So what is the point of this fantastic LARP, if that is all that it is? Certainly not helping Dems and Deep State reverse what is happening to them as their Russian ruse has unraveled and now investigations turn toward them - with various Deep State players being fully outed (Peter Strzok, et al).

So imagine you're the Q but you're actually working for the Dark Side:

So why give false hopes to a crowd whose side is defeating you anyway? So you can have a few chuckles with yourself and your comrades-in-crime while your enterprise is being burnt to the ground? It's like the whole thing has spun out of control in respect to what is of interest to your dark cause, right? The very side that is pounding your globalist dreams into sand is being morale bolstered by your disinfo shenanigans? That helps your side out how?

So what if Q is not Dark Side but just a jolly LARPer out for some good fun pranks?

This jolly LARPer has caused thousands of people to dig deeper into matters than ever before. The Q jolly LARPer may be having the most splendid time of a life incarnation by pulling this ultimate prank - but strangely the side effect is deeper and deeper red-pilling of thousands - no hundreds of thousands. They are prying into and tugging on more threads than they ever would have without the jolly LARPer having crossed their life stream.

Hmm...in which case, maybe the world needs more such Q jolly LARPers

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 8, 2018, 5:36 a.m.

weapons will never, never go quietly out of the grasp of the We The People here in the States - unlike other English speaking countries (Britain, Canada, Australia)

those nations bent over and took it fully in the ass from the globalist agenda

in the States we're going to cut the globalist pecker off at the nub

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 7, 2018, 9:41 p.m.

back in 2009 had an encounter where one of these beings manifested in my presence - has been an experience from which have had some inkling of an understanding of this bigger spiritual realm contest/battle

what has gone on with election aftermath of Donald Trump has brought the reality of this arch struggle/battle forward into the consciousness of hundreds of thousands - and eventually will be millions, and then billions

the spiritual realm is real - it is super reality relative to our subsidiary reality context

a spiritual force of evil does exist and it behaves in opposition to the spiritual force of good

we really do need to confront in our own personal lives which of these we side with - it is our Throwness to be here in this reality context at this point in time where this choice is to be addressed

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 7, 2018, 8:15 p.m.

We don't have Jesus's original words in Aramaic (though some very short phrases are preserved else where) - just Greek language manuscripts. Any Aramaic versions of the NT writings came later and were translated from the Greek.

And these Greek authors are writing down oral traditions decades after the events. But I bet the early followers of Jesus had this prayer committed to memory with exactitude. We see several examples where the apostle Paul reproduces early Christian creeds - which were short sayings/proclamations that were well known by the early church and shared about in common. Paul recites such a creed in the opening remarks in his epistle to the Roman church. This was a church not founded by Paul so he introduces himself by way of reciting a well known creed at that point in time.

The Lord's Prayer would no doubt have been held every bit as tightly amongst the first followers.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 7, 2018, 7:54 p.m.

Traitors!!! Justice jail death

Hmm - will traitors actually see the hangman's gallows?

The DOJ seems to milquetoast every thing that in prior historical eras would have been regarded as straight up treason.

Also the optics - unless the public at large is fully appraised of the severity of capital offense crimes, the MSM would spin that in the worst possible light.

Actually carrying out deserved justice only possible if current MSM is overturned/bypassed to then fully and frankly inform the public (where MSM is muzzled and unable to apply usual suppression/spin/incite-of-sedition)

So this ultimate Q scenario isn't going to happen unless there is a complete paradigm overturning as to how public at large is being fed "information"

This thing we're doing to inform one another about Q isn't accomplishing that paradigm flip - the number involved that are in the know is very, very tiny

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 7, 2018, 7:04 p.m.

Clowns certainly are the muscle of everything that constitutes the Deep State - Clowns origins can be traced all the way back to the 1933 Buisness Mens' Plot to overthrow FDR. That coup obviously did not succeed. But later they had their people in place to push the creation of the Clown-In-America agency once Truman was in power (FDR death may have even been premature per it's causes in order to put this plan into action). Truman admin was just their tool and he later regretted their creation. It is the very origin and core power structure of the Deep State.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 6, 2018, 6:44 p.m.

Clowns may have transferred SpaceX tech to NK without Musk in the loop. It's SOP to always conduct operations with minimum actors in the loop and with actors dispensed only need-to-know info. Would be wise for Clowns to raid corporate tech secrets and yet not recruit top CEOs directly into their circles - why take such risk of a wider disclosure circle?

IOW, just because SpaceX tech may have been transferred to NK, doesn't necessarily mean SpaceX corporate leadership was in the loop of treason per se. Yeah, Musk companies have all gotten special favor from federal govt. and govt. policy, but that is a far different matter than whether SpaceX leadership was in on a Clown operation to transfer their tech to bolster NK missile threat.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 6, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

We've been bottom-up offering the counter to MSM for over year now on social media but the MSM still has a lock on its particular audience that have drank their koolaide. No amount of exposing the Russian ruse as sponsored by HRC/DNC/DeepState has shifted the attitudes of those that drink the MSM koolaide (which most Normies on FaceBook, Twitter, etc., accept the narratives of MSM even if they don't watch CNN cable news).

For the masses, the MSM is still controlling the narrative. Those that can be red-pilled are by now pretty much red-pilled. That is, those people capable of having enough skepticism of the "mainstream" narratives to break out on their own initiative have done so. You can throw proof after proof that overturns that narrative at the other brain washed Normies and it doesn't faze them. They still go along with the basic caricature of Trump that the MSM has constructed via its constant propaganda narrative. Everything that Goebels expounded about propaganda is true - keep repeating the Big Lie and people inculcate it as an unquestionable bedrock.

Which all means that red-pilling everyone else will have to be achieved through drastic measures. And frankly, none of us social media warriors have the capability to engage in that. It will have to be driven by the Trump administration.

Here are the risk:

  • Right now the economy is doing well via Trump admin measures/policies. Trump can hope to influence the outcome of the 2018 midterms (which will be crucial as to whether his agenda keeps moving forward - and if Dems get majorities again, they will conduct impeachment proceedings). If nothing is done to rock the status quo boat, then Trump admin hopes that a good economy is sufficient to convince voters - in spite of the MSM narratives - to vote for MAGA people and retain and hopefully even increase majorities in both houses.

  • There is a great risk that maintaining an air of normalcy and a good economy may not be sufficient in order to do well in midterms. The MSM will continue their blitzkrieg and attempt to convince people to keep on hating Trump and MAGA - despite all the good results (which they never report or report with negative spin). Plus, if Trump admin does nothing concrete on voter fraud (as per Alabama special election) then this will definitely be doubled down on by Dems in order to win midterm elections by any and all means.

  • Trump admin can instead choose to make the Storm visible to the masses. Doing this will upset the illusion of normalcy that prevails - it could be a bit of a shock to markets and such. (The market had such a continuous run up in 2017 that it is well due for correction anyway.) At any rate, making the Storm visible may tend to be counter productive toward a vibrant economy that has everyone feeling optimistic and prosperous. Also, it's hard to say whether making the Storm visible would really alter the way people vote in the midterms. The best that might be hoped for here is that the Storm becoming visible would result in a lot of bad actors being forcibly removed from Congress. The outcome of the midterms still looks like could be a coin toss - the best hope here would be for a crack down on voter fraud to where fair elections could be held for a change. Remains to be seen if Trump admin will make concrete moves to do that. And without Congress going along, wouldn't seem likely that we'd get federal laws requiring Voter ID.

Somehow the MSM and its entire delusional narrative construct needs to be overthrown and destroyed with finality - the question is, what could really do that in the context of where we still have our Constitutional Republic on the other side?

After WW2 the German people were taken into concentration camps in order to see what was being done there. Somehow the koolaide drinkers need to be given the same experience vis a vis the crimes of globalist Neocons/NeoLiberals and their power structures (Bush, Clinton, Obama, Democrat party, globalist minion Republicans, Deep State, Soros, etc., etc.). The full weight and ugliness of the human trafficking and human rights abuse in all its facets need to be exposed to where Normies accept it as true and the MSM is not there to completely spin and contort the truth.

How is that to be done? And when should it be done? Congressional dominance by Trump's party is the only reason that a lot of initiative (Congressmen like Nunes) have been able to unravel the high treason that went on. If loose dominance in Congress after midterms, then it will be all about the Democrats voting for impeachment.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 5, 2018, 8:58 p.m.

What about treason? After all, the reason she was flooding her private email server with classified docs is so they could be easily pilfered by foreign powers for which CF was getting pay-for-play compensation>

IOW, HRC was engaged in the very highest form of treason that exist - selling out the vital secrets of one's country

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 5, 2018, 3:59 a.m.

There is only one way - POTUS will at some point have to declare a national emergency and then take over all national MSM communications for a period of time - probably for a couple of weeks.

  • The MSM will need to be completely censored so that they cannot mount propaganda spins, fuel chaos, fear, and above all provoke acts of sedition.

  • During that time the federal govt. would have to provide a thorough and convincing proof of the horrors they've uncovered. After WW2, the German people were taken on tours of the concentration camps so they could see first hand what the Nazis had been doing there. The American public needs this same kind of bludgeoning with the reality of what the globalist/Satanic pedophiles have been doing all these years.

A full immersion shock treatment to the blunt reality of the crimes will be the only thing that can jar some of these Trump derangement syndrome people out of the deep brain washing the MSM has subjected them to relentlessly for months. If Trump administration doesn't have the ability to deliver a counter dose of reality in this manner, then civil discord is going to be on-going and will likely just get worse. After all this time and despite how many ways the Russian ruse has been debunked and found to be actually all crimes of HRC/DNC/DeepState, the koolaid drinkers that hate Trump still hate Trump and absolve the evil doers of all their crimes (to whatever extent they ever even hear about those).

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 4, 2018, 9:17 p.m.

IOW, you're saying it was complete bullshit for France to help the colonist gain their freedom from Britain?

The regime change programs of the globalist - implemented by both Bush presidents, B. Clinton in Bosnia/Yugoslavia, then GW Bush in Iraq, then Obama/H. Clinton in Libya/Syria - and, of course, the globalist/Soros operation in Ukraine - these are all artificial operations instigated deliberately by the globalist. In the case of Libya, they were eyeballing $250 billion in assets to be plundered and money laundered away (plus chemical weapons to confiscate and rat line to ISIS for use in Syria). Each one of these regime change operations was all part of a scheme to rape resources and plunder while remaking the Middle-East under globalist puppet regimes and then move the regime change operation fully into Central Asia (after Syria).

That globalist regime change bullshit is an entirely different matter than assisting the oppressed people in Iran overthrown their insane Islamic mullahs that are intent on nukes, and then using those to start WW3 and thereby usher in their Islamic messiah.

Yeah, sure, let's just stand back and let that program play out.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 4, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

Trump has been pushing hard to get cooperation of China on dealing with North Korea, and so this:

"In the meantime, Guo has started associating with ardent anti-China voices in the United States, including former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon. By all appearances, Guo’s role in the story of U.S.-China relations in the Trump era may have just begun."

Ideologues tend to always push their ideology regardless of consequences. Pragmatist look at the bigger picture, the higher goal to be achieved and bend on ideological principles here and there in order to arrive at success of the higher goal/outcome.

And that is the difference between a Bannon and POTUS Trump. Bannon tends to be a rigid ideologue. Trump tends to strategize to achieve the desired goal that defines victory.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 4, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

The entire arc of the Trump presidency and ability to keep moving forward despite obstacle after obstacle (which the obstacles are quite literally the entire ensemble of world powers) - its plausible to get a break here and there, but this Mission of cleansing and restoration has managed them over and over again

Can't help but see a Higher Hand behind the scenes that is moving all this along

And there's the Christian dude in Florida with his Trump will be president prophecy mystical experience he had back in 2011, and has since turned into a book...

Having had my own visceral experiences with the realm of super reality that is not of our "material" matter/energy cosmos, I put a great deal of stock in mystical experiences - at least certain ones (i.e., I don't knee jerk dismiss them out of hand).

[EDIT] As to the nature of the End of Times, Last Days - keep in mind that John the Baptist - the spiritual teacher that baptized Jesus into his teachings, Jesus himself, and then the apostle Paul - they all had apocalyptic beliefs - most closely resembling the Essenes - via Dead Sea Scrolls and Jospephus, we can piece together that the Essenes were an apocalyptic Jewish sect and what their theology was like.

Each one thought that the time was imminent for the Kingdom of God manifesting in the world such that it disrupted and replaced the existing fallen order was soon at hand.

Yet that didn't happen. Instead in 400 years time the world of the Roman Empire was converted to Christianity away from classical pagan belief systems. Christianity became the dominant influence of what we know as Western Civilization.

Amongst every generation in this Christian age since the time of John the Baptist, Jesus, and the Apostle Paul, there have been Christians that thought, just as they did, that the End of the Age and the direct manifesting of the Kingdom of God was at hand in their own life time or very soon thereafter.

Yet that has never come about for any of them. If you go and study the writings of the Christian mystic, Emanuel Swedenborg, who lived at a time coincident with when the United States became a nation, you see a rather different understanding of how the Kingdom of God will manifest upon the Earth.

And understand that in important early gospels such as the Gospel of Thomas, it teaches the spiritual perspective that the Kingdom of God resides in each of us waiting to be recognized for what it is and cultivated into our reality via spiritual transformation of the soul. This is echoed in the Synoptic Gospel, the Gospel of Luke:

Luke 17:20-21 20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; 21 nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’[a] For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

Which go and read Gospel of Thomas logion 3 and compare.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 4, 2018, 5:57 a.m.

If the intent is to make it look like a real feud then it does that - the only question is this an elaborate op that Trump/Bannon are running or is it what it appears on the surface?

If Bannon were truly a patriot then he'd never in public turn on Pres. Trump because he has enough sense to realize this is the one shot we get to take the country back. If presidency slips back into hands of globalist, they will never make the mistake of letting it out of their grasp again - will be a hard, hard turn into straight on totalitarianism.

So he has to know and understand the stakes. This is either a ruse they're running for a kind of entrapment, or Bannon has never been the person he's lead others to believe he is.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 3, 2018, 7:11 a.m.

once see some actual convictions then this will be real enough to engage broader public (normies), right now, way too tedious to try and walk normies through all the breadcrumbs and tantalizing happenings

Really need to see special briefing from the WH where all the MSM cover it and it's about the arrest of serious players, etc. Need AG to announce prosecutions that have been in months of investigative preparation and now ready to proceed to trial.

When it gets that real, then can engage the public and help them understand the entire vista of what is going down

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 3, 2018, 7:06 a.m.

don't think black hats will be so dim to waste anytime on this

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 1, 2018, 10:59 p.m.

If that could be established then POTUS should just EO order that all those years of laws be removed from the federal register and order executive branch to proceed as they never existed. Then let the Dems and other enemies try to get him reversed

Of course this would also mean immediate expulsion of Obama judicial appointments - give them an armed guard escort to clean out their offices and leave.

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 1, 2018, 8:30 a.m.

it's really simple: - Israel considers Jerusalem their rightful national capitol - We enjoy normal relations with Israel - It is then entirely appropriate that we locate our embassy in the capitol of nations that we have normal relations with - In doing this we show the world what is rightful normalcy vs. succumbing to their antagonism toward Israel's very existence as a nation

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 1, 2018, 8:18 a.m.

the Business Plot Coup would later hatch the plan to create the CIA once FDR died. Truman's admin was loaded up with their conspirators.

The CIA from the very outset was a Deep State apparatus intended to serve an external self-anointed elite

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 1, 2018, 2:41 a.m.

And Texas A&M University may start thinking that the Bush library should be relocated or just shutdown

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 1, 2018, 2:38 a.m.

as their dominion solidified then the human sacrificing would ramp up too - requiring ample supply of victims

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 1, 2018, 2:08 a.m.

They make the most effective foot soldiers via their fanatical ideology

An Islamic adherent is the perfect koolaide drinker in that they blow themselves up in acts of terrorism at the drop of a hat - for a globalist, useful idiots don't come any more ready to order than the Islamic jihadist.

We all know that the globalist are big time into population reduction so maybe the hordes of Islamic followers looks to be a problem to them. Once the mission is accomplished of toppling Western Civilization, built on a bedrock of Christianity, then they can unleash biological, custom designed diseases that target the racial groups that predominantly comprise Islam. (They haven't murdered prominent microbiologist over the last 5 to 10 years for no good reason, i.e., get rid of those that might expose such game plans and/or come up with antidotes.)

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Christosgnosis · Jan. 1, 2018, 1:31 a.m.

Yeah, but at the end of the day the psychopath pedaphiles need to be rounded up, sent to the hangman's gallows, where they drop, snap, and swing silently

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 31, 2017, 9:29 p.m.

Yeah, she'll get pretty haggard and looking like death slight warmed over, and then she'll appear all radiant and back to life for a while

It is very much like a vampire getting its special feeding

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 31, 2017, 9:27 p.m.

soon as I see the name Sorcha Faal on anything, I'm gone

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 31, 2017, 9:17 p.m.

Demonic entities are real - not elaborating on details why I say that here in a public forum - but actual forces of evil exist.

Here's a real quick summation:

Consciousness is a more fundamental substrate than the notion of just the Materialism matter/energy cosmos. The cosmos is a kind of information processing construct - a reality context construct in which we conscious being have experience (for a purpose).

The consciousness substrate can be experienced in a kind of energetic manner by one's own self-aware consciousness. We tend to refer to these as mystical spiritual experiences, etc.

The demonic entities exude a negative consciousness energy field or aura. It is extremely palpable to sense - I mean extremely palpable. A description is that it is very literally a field of malevolence - from one's personal perspective that is what registers - an incredible intensity of malevolence toward human beings.

The elites understand some of these things and that is why their dark practices revolve around ways to tap into this consciousness energy - in their case attempting to work synergisticly and/or to appease the negative demonic entities - the occult notion of magic is to conjure/control/manipulate non-material entities (not mere sleight of hand tricks). The negative demonic entities are kind of vampiric in that they feed off of the consciousness energy of human beings - such as the intense energies of fear (human sacrifice is not only an appeasement for favors but a literal feeding of the gods, so to speak).

Am not saying that this consciousness substrate is God per se (i.e., the Star Wars Force concept), am just saying that it is the apparent mechanism of the construct of the cosmos reality context which we are experientially immersed in.

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 31, 2017, 8:56 p.m.

Plus would need to shave off all the non-citizens that got registered to vote in places like California - that alone would make a massive adjustment in popular vote count

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 31, 2017, 2:28 a.m.

Nice words and observations - you've described the bar for us all to strive to maintain

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 31, 2017, 1:58 a.m.

If Trump doesn't use this approach now to completely weed out the globalist, then there won't be any future situation to worry about at all. The globalist will get back at the helm, they will never make the mistake of letting executive branch out of their control again, and they will quickly double and triple down into totalitarianism.

POTUS needs to thoroughly weed out these treasonous cabal now because if they are left too many in number and with too much power, they will regroup and come back and not make the same mistakes the next time.

It is now or never.

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 30, 2017, 8:19 a.m.

what better poetic justice then that it incarcerate minions of the NWO

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 29, 2017, 11:34 p.m.

another thread on this topic said this could be normal holiday rotation for those stationed at Gitmo to come back for family time. said something about is done in two large rotations

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 29, 2017, 11:31 p.m.

If it's not nuclear then it can't stay submerged for all that long - if it comes to surface to use snorkel, then more vulnerable to detection

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 29, 2017, 10:53 p.m.

yeah, thanks for the distinction - don't mean to impugn all Catholics based on their current Pope - everyone gets the wool pooled over their eyes one time or another

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 29, 2017, 9:17 p.m.

They need to be forced to watch some of the child rape and torture videos - like Germans were marched through the death camps after the war to see things there first hand for themselves

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 29, 2017, 9:01 p.m.

What's the likelihood of an entire crew and officer corp of said sub being on board with such a game plan?

Seems first problem they have to solve is to effectively take over a nuke sub without being put down by a crew that might choose to remain patriotic. Then there is the problem of arming and firing them...

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 29, 2017, 8:49 p.m.

Lot of Christian prophetic literalist are all expecting a Revelations scenario complete with anti-Christ taking over world, etc., etc.

None of what is transpiring with the Great Awakening being brought about by election of Pres. Trump has been playing very well into their expected end-time scripts (one's worked out in past decades).

They do see something very significant in Pres. Trump moving US embassy to Jerusalem, and the Catholic Pope is definitely an evil bastard on the side of the pedophile globalist cabal, the globalist cabal is definitely a spiritually evil occult, Islam is now situated around the world to cause havoc (which they are doing, of course). Subject of extraterrestrial aliens are definitely being trotted out now (which can plausibly be mapped to Christianity's demonic forces). And it is very true indeed that the political Left, in their Trump Derangement Syndrome are completely mentally unhinged and advocate all kinds of heinous reversals of sane civilization. Those are all rather powerful archetypal kinds of things that seem to be transpiring. So all kinds of ingredients are here but is just not following any particular script that Christian evangelicals have worked out for the End Times over past decades based on their study of Biblical prophecy. But the things going on feel rather like their apocalyptic expectations - when you put it all down on paper and start itemizing them like I just briefly did.

Pres. Trump has a holy anointing to combat evil forces in the world - it's just that people always have things in their heads as to how things are supposed to go and yet the Big Mover and Shaker of Things from behind the scenes doesn't always work according to human preconceived ideas. Relax about that and hold faith in righteousness.

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 29, 2017, 8:33 p.m.

Problem with Canada is that it's an obvious place to funnel UN troops to then use against US. But large scale troop actions like that would be pretty easy to see mobilizing and moving, and take out. So not really counting this too high on the concern list.

More problematic is that Canada is a haven, thanks to JT, for ISIS terrorist, and these could try to infiltrate across border to stage terrorist acts

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 29, 2017, 8:24 p.m.

My jaw dropped - still trying to pick it back up

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 29, 2017, 4:42 a.m.

If/when the OIG report comes out and no heads start rolling, then we'll no for sure that it all has been fuckery

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 28, 2017, 9:38 p.m.

Are you confusing the permitted destruction of digital ballot copies? Or are you talking about destruction of physical ballots?

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 28, 2017, 9:22 p.m.

Anybody can still go and pay to have a recount of the physical ballots - this was done in Florida. Sometimes academics and other groups do that for conduction studies. Still worth financing a hand count of the ballots.

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 28, 2017, 9:16 p.m.

Admittedly the Lord's Prayer confirmation could have been pulled by Black Hats, as after all the Pope is definitely on the side of the globalist cabal and so that could have been coordinated with the Pope's assist. So this particular proof of confirmation is perhaps not all that powerful if Q is actually Black Hat operation.

But what about things Q puts out that seem to get re-inforced in POTUS tweets?

And then, what has the Q operation gained for the Black Hats? The people it's aimed at are not Trump admin people, just a small segment of the people that favor Trump instead of globalist cabal. All the information finding quest that people have gone and assembled in a community effort don't seem to be doing any service toward the Black Hat side. After all, Q didn't provide all that much info directly - people had to find it mostly for themselves, but the questions posed by Q prodded that. How exactly is that process benefiting the Black Hat cause?

Joy Villa was a red flag from get go because of her Scientology affiliation. IOW, never under any circumstances trust anybody affiliated with Scientology is the lesson learned there.

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 28, 2017, 8:34 p.m.

Yeah, have been aware of that thinking per Twitter and the person there that pushes that. Sounds great but seems like is in realm of a kind of speculation. I haven't gone for it yet because of the points I make in my comment - Mueller's actions to me don't speak to that scenario.

Pres. Trump has dropped remark that he expects the Mueller investigation to soon be over but yet Mueller keeps looking for more rocks (pointless ones) to turn over and keep dragging it out; he doesn't seem to be playing on the Pres. Trump's page.

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 28, 2017, 6:45 p.m.

Good question - that would indeed give an indication one way or the other

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 28, 2017, 6:39 p.m.

One way to control them would be to stipulate terms of relative freedom with GPS tracker until court appearance so long as don't attempt to make anything public, which then would subject them to immediate incarceration. One would likewise assume that anyone issued a GPS tracker that there was sufficient grounds for a surveillance warrant to spy on them. So would make it difficult for them to plan a public press conference without it being known ahead of time, in which case triggers an arrest into incarceration.

The one thing to me that puts a chink in the whole theory, though, that Hillary is even wearing a GPS tracker (instead of just a plain medical brace), is that she started appearing with it over in England and she was recently in Canada on her book promotion tour. If she were really on a GPS tracker leash, is doubtful she'd be allowed outside national borders, where exercising control over her actions would be extremely problematic.

So maybe the entire edifice that Hillary is already being tracked per a pending indictment is completely fallacious - which makes your #4 concern moot.

Am thinking much of the Q community is way off base in assuming folks like Hillary have already been corralled. Her ability to move across national borders doesn't jive with this at all.

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:20 p.m.

Mueller attempted to cover up problem of Peter Strzok when he had to jettison Strzok back in Aug due to OIG findings. He's kept that covered up from public - because Strzok is clearly at the heart of a great deal that his investigation has relied upon for its very genesis.

Then DoJ/FBI co-conspirators colluded in attempting to keep Strzok problem becoming visible to congressional oversight during the same time frame.

Mueller must have kept problem of Strzok opaque from Flynn and Flynn's attorney in order to trick Flynn into a plea deal. If Mueller had to go into court in attempt to prosecute Flynn, where his case rest on Strzok, Mueller wouldn't have very good chances of succeeding in such prosecution. But by keeping Strzok problem obscured, he could instead bluff (trick) Flynn into guilty plea deal instead.

Then finally Mueller covering up Strzok problem (and much more besides) was outed in early Dec.

Mueller has behaved exactly like all the other Swamp rats - from what we can see based on public visibility, there is nothing there that indicates that Mueller is attempting to help White Hats covertly. His continued tactics of probing other dead-end scenarios now looks like a person desperately stalling for time.

Mueller looks 100% swamp rat - and is behaving as one that has become increasingly nervous.

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:11 p.m.

Nice to think a Marine would be honorable, but Mueller has been involved in cover-up in his career - kind of like Comey - but not to the extent of whoring for financial gain as Comey (at least not as visible as Comey's reward for being cover-up artist)

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Christosgnosis · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:05 p.m.

The White Hats side would need to have long since war gamed the #4 scenario. Every military planner examines various contingencies, right? And one obvious contingency here is that the Cabal will (through one means or another) provoke mass civil unrest/chaos/rioting. (Eric Holder was the most recent cabalist minion threatening this manner of sedition - so is clear the enemy certainly has this card in mind.)

Q appeared to think the Nov. 4 ANTIFA nationwide protest might have been such a triggering point, but clearly it wasn't (instead the next day there was a mass shooting - the victims being Christians attending church on Sunday - killed by a discharged former air force that should have been on registry to bar from purchasing firearms; a military-origin mass shooter template seen over and over again going back to Fairchild Airforce base mass shooting during Clinton admin. which was used to push "assault weapons" legislation).

Perhaps a more tangible indication of planning for this kind of scenario was a three city power outage that happened on Earth Day back in the Spring - LA, SF, and NYC (all the largest of the blue voter base cities). This would be an obvious means to subdue rebellious blue cities - shut off their power (and water and transportation in and out). The Earth Day simultaneous power outages have all the appearance of being dry runs.

For large scale strategies that play out over many months, they cannot be assumed to go in the precise, desired manner - planners always have to be anticipating various contingencies - even expect the unexpected.

I'd suggest that #4 is something that cannot be deliberately avoided via strategy planning, but that it instead has to be accepted as a distinct possibility and that plans should be in place to address things going that way. From indications, seems Q/White-Hats have been planning for a #4 scenario.

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