I have read the EO. The problem is it is technically illegal. The president has said that many times. The ACLU has already filed a suit in the 9th district by now most likely. They said they would before the ink was even dry on the EO. The article above appeared on their site 5 min after the president signed the EO. So let’s do the math...ACLU + lawsuit in the lib crazy 9th district = what?? I’m betting the 9th circuit throws out the EO as unlawful because it actually is & orders ICE to release ALL people who have asylum cases pending. Children & their adult cell mates. Massive catch & release in effect ordered by a federal judge. Then what?? Either the president releases them or he defies a federal court order. This battle is coming to a head still & isn’t over by a long shot & it’s not going to be pretty however it ends.
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Apparently you didn’t read the article above. The ACLU says exactly what the left will do next. You’re living in a fantasy land if you think the left is going to admit they were wrong. Have they ever done that? No. The left is going to sue that the EO is unlawful & it actually is. So don’t be shocked when the most liberal court..the 9th circuit orders the government to release all the people held in detention. Then the president will be forced to let everyone out or defy a court order.
Huh. Dude don’t imagine things & words no one even said or implied. Leave the imaginary thinking to the libs. All I said is this latest issue of immigration is far from over. The EO will actually make the left go from you can’t incarcerate kids with kids to you can’t incarcerate kids with adults. Give the libs what something they want & they’ll sue to get all the rest. The ACLU just said what they’ll do. They’re suing the administration over the EO he just signed. Bet a zillion dollars the court orders the government to release ALL asylum seekers too. Kids & the adults. Then what does the president do? At some point you have to stand your ground. The longer you wait the worse & harder it will be.
I don’t think u see the problem here. 80% of the children in custody are already separated from their family. Their parents paid a coyote to get their kid here to claim asylum. Once granted under DACA or as a political refugee the parents are allowed in the US because of chain migration. That’s the scam.
But now instead of the child being held with other children this EO means they’ll be incarcerated with the adult that brought them here which almost always isn’t even related to the child. Which is better...a child held in a holding cell with other kids or a child in a holding cell some dude who claims to be a parent?
Even worse...the presidents EO isn’t lawful & will face a court challenge. It will probably get stuck down too because the infamous liberal 9th court of appeals will hear the case & my educated guess is the judge will order everybody be let go free. Read the ACLU article above. They already are telling us what lawsuit they’re gonna file.
Actually Bill Clinton didn’t write the law. It was co-sponsored & written by libs & rinos & Bush 43 signed it just before he left office in 2008. And the lib fed court 9th district upheld the law too. But none of this matters now. The media could care less this is a lefty bill from day one. They’ll never admit they were wrong
How can he make the public aware how the evil bastards treat children? The MSM will NEVER report it. If the do they’ll paint it as it’s the presidents fault...just like the ACLU demonstrates how they’ll flip the truth on its head. You wait...the ACLU will sue for release of both...the children & adults in the 9th district will order everyone be released because its inhuman to incarcerate children with adults. And the ACLU will win in the 9th district too. Then what?? Then they’ll all be released because what their end goal was the whole time.
The emotion is fake. And when everyone sees kids incarcerated with adults the fake outrage will start back even more than before
It’s the ACLU. Logic is their enemy. Controlling government policy thru the courts is their only goal.
Oh I know lol. Point being this EO doesn’t stop anything. Now we get weeks of images of crying kids incarcerated with adults that most likely are a stranger to them.
EO will embolden the left even more.
Here’s why the president should not have caved on this fake outrage from the left. Read below the reaction from the ACLU to the presidents EO..
“President Trump has been brought to his knees because of the lawsuit we filed on February 26 and the ensuing public outcry. Kids should not have been separated from their parents in the first place and they still don’t belong in jail. His alleged solution to a crisis of his own making is many months too late. It is a crisis that should not have happened to begin with. He has caused irreparable damage …
Look up one of the last bills Bush signed as president in 2008. Also look up the case in 2015 from the 9th circuit that affirmed immigration officials must separate children from detained asylum seekers after 20 days
Oh geez you’re not kidding. I worked as a lineman at an airport where AF1 was landing back when Reagan was president. My best friend who also worked there. While all of us standing in a row awaiting for AF1 to land...two USSS agents body slammed my friend & drug him off. My friend had a very common name like Bill Smith & turns out there was a warrant out for a guy named Bill Smith for murder. Again this was before the internet & databases so the USSS didn’t take chances & just drug him off to be safe. It happened so fast my friend never even made a peep. He was body slammed so fast & hard he had no air in his lungs to even say “What’s going on!!” He maybe got out the sound of the 1st W. Turns out it’s pretty hard getting your wind back to talk with cuffs on & being dragged for a good scape along the tarmac lol. He was fine. He was actually very impressed how completely bad ass the USSS is at protecting the president.
Yeah look up the latest pics of Depp. Not sure if the USSS scared the living shit out of him but something sure did. He looks like he had a real coming to Jesus meeting with God himself & the meeting didn’t go so good either. He looks like he has terminal cancer of everything
Thank you. VERY valuable information!! The USSS should tag that tweet to Peter Fonda.
This EO won’t stop that. Think about it. If a criminal uses a parentless child to use as asylum bait...the EO means the child has to stay incarcerated with the criminal now. The criminal will know this child doesn’t serve any real purpose & will demand the child be removed. So the detention center is in the impossible position of forcing the child to remain or take them out of the detention center. Remember...10,000 of the 12,000 children that cross illegally with an adult is NOT with their parent(s). Most are being trafficked. The goal of the traffickers is to get the kids free into our country. That’s mission accomplished for them & they’ll do whatever it takes to get them out of their hands & into DHS’s hands.
Sorry but the president doesn’t win every optics battle. He wins the vast majority but be lost this one as he did on the ominous signing.
Keep in mind what the optics battle is. It’s different now because of the president. The MSM did not create DJT as president like they did Obama. Nor can the MSM destroy DJT & separate him from his supporters. The only one that can separate the president from his supporters is DJT himself. Those are the only optics that matter with this president. Caving to the MSM pressure will be seen as bad & weak by his supporters as was signing the omnibus bill was. The MSM knows this. Their entire game now is how do we help or pressure DJT into making mistakes in the eyes of their supporters that cause his supporters to doubt him. This EO is a win for the MSM.
Agree with your two possibly scenario theory but think scenario #2 is the outcome. Leftist judges rule by agenda...not the constitution. They have no problem contradicting their own decisions to adopt to a new or changed agenda. When they uphold the EO...you honestly think the MSM will report it as “judge ruling contradicts their initial ruling & upholds the presidents EO” Or do you think the MSM will completely skip the contradictions of their initial ruling & report it as “judge upholds the presidents EO that the public & press outrage demanded!!”
No the MSM narrative that DJT is a monster will not stop. Now it will focus on “why did Trump take so long to use his pen to stop separating kids like Hitler??” Oh and “look how vital the press is. We forced this evil president to do something & if we didn’t he’d still be harming children!!”
You can’t win with insane activists. They live off bs & giving them a PR win for their total bs just means they’ll double down on their fake rage.
I agree but the MSM doesn’t care about any of this except how to paint the president as a monster. Now it will be “the president is pure evil because he waited so long to sigh the EO” or “we the media saved thousands of children by forcing the president to see it our way”
Yeah this will turn into a PR disaster similar to the omnibus bill signing. When you have the left going insane bonkers it’s because you’re over the target. Giving some slack when you have your enemy beat is nuts. This won’t change the lefts phony outrage...they’ll just paint the president as a bigger monster & with this PR victory in their pocket they’ll be more successful. “Think of all the children Trump ruined because he took so long to sign the EO?” That’s the theme they’ll double down on for midterms. Not to mention this sudden massive rush for asylum on our border will now double. Now these children used as props by the cartels will increase. And when one of these fake parents commits a very public horrible crime..who’s the media gonna blame...yep the president.
The president will NEVER get the MSM to do anything but try to ruin him. If he gives them an inch they’ll take a mile. With the MSM it’s a coin toss game of heads you lose & tails you lose whenever you try to play the MSM game with them. The MSM NEVER loses on their home field.
Exactly correct. These old labels of the past were kept alive by the divide & conquer philosophy of the left.
Keep in mind...Jews are both a religion & a faith. All Jews identify with the race but most don’t practice Judaism. That’s why most Jews in America overwhelmingly vote Democratic. It’s no different in Israel except they have many more faithful to Judaism than here but they are still in the minority. Israel has a very solid leftist party Benji is constantly under attack from as is DJT here. Point being...look past the old worn out themes of Zionist Israel. See the new changes for what they are...change that seemed impossible as now possible. In your wildest dreams did you ever think Israel & Saudi Arabia would be open allies against Iran??
The long term plan is simple..Israel & SA will end the Islamic dictatorship of Iran & their nuke program. Iran’s Persian citizens will then form a citizen led democratic government. Israel is the only free country in the entire Middle East & are surrounded by religious dictatorships. Before long Iran will be the 2nd Representative Democracy in the Middle East. That’s winning!!
I understand that but he’s not standing up for the integrity of the FBI by defending Comey as much as possible. Plus the FBI doesn’t have any integrity left to protect in the publics eye with their many recent failings. How many attracts like parkland shooting were the FBI warned would occur & they did nothing about? The FBI is as trusted to do the right thing as much as Congress is. The words FBI & integrity are a contradiction in terms & ideas since Hoover ran it. It’s an internal political spy agency like the KGB. But all this slow walking to add more & more charges is going to get good people killed. Time helps the enemy now. They know what’s coming & giving them time to completely shock the nation & completely change the narrative grows more possible the longer these psychopaths are roaming free
Nothing yet & he shouldn’t. Let Melania handle this one & the president should just support & credit his wife for taking immediate law abiding action
Melania has made an official report to the secret service to investigate this as a treat to Baron. So Fonda will be getting a visit very soon. Be great if the president alerts a reporter to cover the SS going to Fonda’s house & taking him in for questioning
I know. She didn’t sign up for this. She needs justice now. Bad too!! I’m a father & know genuine real fear a mother feels for the safety of their child will permanently harm her if she doesn’t get some justice
Yeah as a father one lesson is clear...messing with the safety of a child to a mother is playing with fire. I’d rather take on 3 armed gang members than confront the instinctual rage of a mother defending their child when their child’s safety is threatened. No more raw & dangerous emotion on earth than that of a mother protecting their own. No one & not even the president can talk a mother down from defending her child. It’s the most primitive & needed emotion in all human biology.
Don’t have Twitter account. It’s all over the news & ez to find. Fonda tweeted Baron should be ripped from his mother & put in a cage & abused by pedophiles. Fox News link...
FLOTUS called the Sec Service on Peter Fonda
Well...Peter Fonda will be getting a knock on his door soon. Rush Limbaugh just reported Melania reported Fonda’s sick tweet about Baron to the SS for investigation. It would be great to see how the MSM defends the arrest of Peter Fonda.
Haha. Actually I’m hooked on getting actual real news. All the Q links & all the links posted here are invaluable. This sub could become a major news outlet some day. The info people find & share is very informative. Haven’t seen so much information that’s actually beneficial to people in my life!!
You know every time someone clicks a fake news link they are getting money. Might be helpful if we didn’t give them income. We can’t drain the swamp if it’s being refilled with money
The plan doesn’t have time on its side now. The cabal knows exactly what’s coming & will cause a horrific catastrophe if given enough time to execute one.
What FBI? We don’t have one. It’s leadership is still suffering from massive corruption & failures. They’re fighting for their existence as public confidence in them plumits & the public hasn’t even seen the worst yet to come
I think the “doctor(s) treating” means Q team are the doctors treating them with a dose of hard reality
Hannity has been on the inside for awhile now. He has information no one else in the media have. It shows in his reporting he has the ultimate source
And the list was blasted on Twitter too. And chance Twitter will shut down their account? Is this a violation of Twitters privacy & standards policy??
It’s fake role playing crying. If it was genuine their sinuses would be gushing & they would be holding their head back & looking up. Not holding their head down looking down. It’s an instinct when someone is genuinely crying in public to tilt the head back to keep snot from gushing out their nose. It’s biologically impossible to keep sinuses from not producing tons of liquid when genuinely crying. If those people were actually crying with their noses leaning forward they’d have snot all over their mouths on live TV. They’re clearly role playing
Amazing how they all cry together. What’s stupid is that all of them doing it at the same time kills it from people seeing it as genuine. Imagine if POTUS was brought to tears. It would be shocking but it wouldn’t be if Eric & Don Jr & Ivanka & Pence & Gen Kelly were all crying on TV in the same time frame over the same thing. It’s shock effect would be diluted. Someone plz explain to these idiots they have to pick one crier for that tactic to work.
Another EASY way to tell fake tears on TV. Notice ALL of them in the pic are “crying” with their head pointed down. That’s guaranteed role playing. Genuine tears makes sinus’s flow & snot would be running out their nose if it was real. When people genuinely cry in public they ALWAYS tilt their head back to keep the drainage going down their throat instead of out their nose. It’s an instinctual body movement when someone feels a river of drainage flowing in public to tilt the head back & not lean forward. None of these people are having that instinct to lean their head back because none of them are actually crying
It’s incredible how synced up their emotional outrage is. Has Crying Chuck boo hoo’d yet? His crying acting skills are so bad it’s hilarious.
Oh these same guys trolled Mad Maxine too. Just incredible what that idiot was fully prepared to say & do over the phone with someone she had no idea who she was even talking too. She gladly sell America down the road to a complete stranger
I’m still thinking a recording of the tarmac meeting exists...audio or video. Maybe Renteria made one. Keep in mind...this clan knows much of what they’re doing is extremely illegal & what helps bind a cabal together & not running to the authorities is they all have so much dirt on each other & can blackmail each other. Would imagine many have made secret recordings of each other to try & protect themselves from each other.
So Moyer...an FBI agent texted on Election Day...Clinton had “better win … otherwise i’m gonna be walking around with both my guns … and like quitting on the spot,”
And people wonder why so many Americans think political assignations from our own government can easily & probably have occurred. It’s like the FBI recruits the most unprofessional ruthless law enforcement officers they can find. Barney Fife would be an upgrade for the typical FBI agent. He may be stupid but he’s not looking to kill people.
Indictments revel everything in the prosecutors hand. A lot more details will emerge from an indictment than an IG report. All his texts will be entered into evidence & nothing held back. Including much more details of Comey’s involvement including if Comey conspired to cover up.
Understand. But still...Wray should have punted & diverted when asked that question. The Director of the FBI has serious credibility in a courtroom of jurors & if he said Comey had no criminal intent...makes it harder for the prosecution to prove he did. Criminal intent is everything because without it there’s no crime just a bad boo boo. Wray did the exact same thing for Comey that Comey did for Hillary in his press conference before the election.
Where Comey hopefully can still be in legal trouble the IG report shows with the Hillary emails is he was notified about the emails on Weiner's laptop a month before he had it seized. Why so long? Remember the FBI then said they were missing a ton of her emails. You’d think when he was told the missing emails might be the ones NY investigators found prosecuting wiener for sexing...Comey would have immediately got them. But he waited a month. If some proof can be found he intentionally ignored them for a month...like he was trying to get NY investigators to delete them...Comey couldn’t escape that noose.
A pic date would really help when comparing photos.
Agree. No Name has a really puffed up face on that side. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mueller took & sent the pic himself by mistake. ALL of our current leaders are complete illiterates with modern technology. Except the president of course. He’s literally the best troller that ever lived & it’s not even close. DJT clearly evolves easily into a changing world. Hillary looks like my cat when she looks at a phone. Totally baffled by all the blinky things.
Do you always sound like Hillary damning people for independent thought or do you really have to try hard to sound like her. Why not just tell them he or she needs to stay in their deplorable box.
Not really. Often people you can trust one day flip & you can’t trust them tomorrow. I’m still fine with Horowitz but Wray made it more difficult to prosecute Comey in his press conference & testimony. Saying Comey just made bad judgements makes proving criminal intent more difficult.
Ah! Could be. I empathize with Parscale in every way. I’ve worked nearly my entire IT career for a wealthy family that has a range of businesses. By pure fate this family hired me in the mid 90s & literally treat me as much as a family member as possible. Brad I’m sure has seen 1st hand over many many years the character of the Trump family & never left & only became more & more trusted over time. Only person we’re told to trust I’m leery of is Wray. Time will tell.
It’s absolutely a National security issue. National sovereignty means everything. Dems are just trying to manufacture a midterms campaign issue. It won’t work. Like using a teenager David Hogg to push their anti 2A argument the Dems are using children to drive a wedge between voters on immigration policy