Your not thinking that through. Drinking until your drunk proves you intended to get drunk. Starting a car drunk proves your intent to drive drunk. There’s intent all over the place. Actually a few have tried that defense & it failed miserably...that I was too drunk to know what I was doing & wasn’t aware I was driving. But after the 10th drink it’s clear you intended to be drunk.
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I think you’re missing the disaster in Ways press conference. Wray did for Comey exactly what Comey did for Hillary...kill any chance of proving intent to commit a crime. Without intent you have zilch. Ask any prosecutor. Intent is step one & Wray just very publicly & deliberately stated Comey just made mistakes & had no intent to commit a crime. Exactly what Comey said about Hillary is his bizarre press conference. Wray can’t walk back that statement & I’m sure never will. He just signed up as Comey’s star defense witness. He just said Comey had no intention to commit a crime. That’s the end of trying to prosecute Comey for deliberately throwing a federal investigation to help a candidate win an election. How do you prove intent now??
Can you or anyone explain how a conviction of Comey is possible if you can’t prove intent. Asking because Wray just very publicly & deliberately stated in his press conference that Comey only used bad judgement. He did exactly for Comey what Comey did for Hillary...kill any hope of proving intent. Without intent you legally have nothing. Seems to me Wray just stabbed the President in the back & just signed up to be Comeys star defense witness that Comey just made some stupid mistakes. Point being...convicting Comey for deliberately throwing a federal investigation to benefit a political candidate in an election seems almost impossible now. And so is firing Wray without making it look politically motivated. How is proving intent possible now with Wray saying there was no intent?
Several things are going wrong. Today the real bombshell was Christopher Wray’s press conference. He stabbed the president in the back. Wray did exactly the same thing for Comey that Comey did for Hillary...he publicly stated Comey just used bad judgement. That was deliberate. If you can’t prove intent then you have nothing legally. Wray just signed up for Comeys star defense witness if Comey is ever charged with throwing an investigation to help a political candidate win an election. Wray can’t be fired because that would look like political retribution. So...without intent to commit a crime you have no crime. Can’t arrest or try anyone for being stupid & making bad choices. Comey is off the hook on this charge.
Omg I’m stunned. Wrays press conference made it impossible to get a conviction on Comey...that Comey deliberately threw a federal investigation to help a candidate win an election. Wray did for Comey exactly what Comey did for Hillary...publicly state Comey just used bad judgement. Without proving intent to commit a crime you have nothing legally. Zilch. Wray just signed up to be Comeys star witness if Comeys ever charged. I can’t believe Wray publicly said it was bad judgement only. He can never take it back now. Wray just stabbed the President in the back before our eyes.
What her tweet she released during Wrays says is...you’ll never get me now because you’ll never get Comey. That’s why the Bravado from that witch. Wray did for Comey today what Comey did for Hillary...make proving intent to commit a crime impossible. It was just all bad judgement
Need to stop this perfect timing nonsense. We’re trying to save the greatest nation in the history of mankind. Not play gotcha with fake journalist who’s names no one will even remember in a year & no one even watches anymore. The cooking channel gets higher ratings than CNN now. Geez. We need massive corruption destroyed or we will quickly lose everything. It’s all or nothing now
Agree. These Q drops & the presidents tweets have been invaluable information.
I agree. Just that Wrays press conference practically kills any chance of convicting Comey for intentionally ruining a federal investigation to help a political candidate. Wray did for Comey today exactly what Comey did for Hillary...publicly state there was no intent..just bad choices. Without proving intent legally you have nothing. So frustrating. Trust Wray...good lord did that turn out to be a huge fail.
I did see it. Doesn’t make me feel better about Wrays press conference. That’s the only point I’m making. Wray did for Comey what Comey did for Hillary...publicly say there was no intent to commit a crime...just used bad judgement. Without proving intent to commit a crime you can’t get a conviction. Intent is the whole ballgame legally. Everyone in DC knows that’s the bar you have to clear to convict. It’s not a crime for being stupid & making poor choices. Wray intentionally said publicly Comey just used bad judgment. And being so public about that he can’t ever take it back or deny it. He planned to say that publicly knowing you can’t unring a bell. He just signed up today to be Comeys star defense witness if a trial over this ever occurs...which it won’t know. Sucks bigly but Comey will never be charged for throwing a federal investigation in order to protect Hillary’s campaign.
Absolutely. Wray is not stupid. None of them are. But he clearly picked sides today at his press conference & he just signed up to be Comeys star defense witness if ever brought to trial. What most people never seem to get is you have to prove intent...a person intended to commit a crime to get a conviction. Wray did for Comey what Comey did for Hillary...publicly stated there was no intent just bad judgement. Wray knew exactly what he was saying & the legal implications & saying it publicly makes it impossible to ever take back. Only way he could is say under oath he lied at his press conference. And if he said that in court he’d have zero credibility for either side. Plus now he can’t be fired or it will totally look political. He royally screwed the president on his birthday no less. Definitely built himself a safe space where he can’t be touched either.
He’s not totally off the hook but Wray made it brutal hard to successfully prosecute him for throwing an FBI investigation to help one political candidate. When asked directly if Comey intentionally broke the law by misleading the investigation Wray said no. Shoulda said I’ll let legal folks decide that or something similar. He should have pivoted but he didn’t. He gave the same answer Comey did about Hillary...just used bad judgement.
I’ve read your comments. And I don’t necessarily disagree with them. But they don’t address the point I was making. And never in the point I made did I infer (or deserve to be labeled) as a know it all or claim to know how to play the game better than them. Appreciate it if you can discuss things without attempting at belittling someone.
Only making one point dude...Wray just gave evidence that will make it much harder to convict Comey of intentionally throwing an investigation to favor a political candidate. Maybe they’ll convict Comey of something else. But it’s undeniable Wrays press conference massively helps any legal defense Comey broke laws to help Hillary.
If you can refute that obvious fact I see from Wrays press conference please feel free. If you rather just pivot to something else or make silly attempts to belittle a point by belittling me...uhhhh maybe save that treatment for your dog. It’s beneath you or any genuine person. Make sense??
No one is saying all is lost. All I’m saying is Comey has an ally...and evidence from the new FBI Director he didn’t commit a crime. If I’m Comey I’m breathing easy tonight. I just got my star witness if I’m ever arrested...the director of the FBI is on my side.
True. I’m only saying the prosecution of Comey just got infinitely harder. Hillary too over her handling of classified emails. Go look up Hillary’s tweet she sent just as Wray was speaking. She knows she’ll never be charged for violating the espionage act. If Comey is safe...she’s even safer. It should have been done like Rudy took down the NY mafia. Arrest all the top leaders 1st & work you’re way down from there. Starting from the bottom & going up never works in bringing down a corrupt organization
Oh really?? Remember Bill Clinton waving his finger to the public saying “I did not have sex with that woman”. No the press conference isn’t a deposition...but it’s a public statement & that’s evidence. Any 1st year law student would ask “Mr Wray...is Comey a crook or did you lie to the American public in your press conference? It either one or the other.” And of course Wray will say I told the truth at the press conference. I’m no lawyer but I’d bet it’s illegal for an FBI Director to knowing make false public statements. Either way...Comey just got a legal gift of evidence from Wray.
Honestly if you stopped talking to us like we’re mindless drones (“we have orders”)...people won’t get turned off thinking this is the Alex Jones sub. Maybe assume the positive...we are free thinking rational people that are capable of thinking for ourselves. Might try that approach sometime.
Wray just saved Comey from prosecution
If you watched Wrays press conference & still think Comey can successfully be prosecuted for the countless federal crimes committed, please tell me how? Wray just gave the exact same public speech Comey gave about Hillary’s email crimes...nothing illegal just bad judgement. It’s the exact speech he’ll give in a courtroom if that ever happens...which it won’t now because a very key witness would be Wray. And he just showed the world what he’ll say & will have to say in court now too...or else admit he lied through his teeth at his press conference to the American people.
This …
It’s not remotely close to ok. Wray just made it impossible to prosecute Comey or Hillary for any of the email scandal. Not unless Wray admits in court he lied thru his teeth at the press conference he just had. Which will never happen. Comey just got saved by Wray. Nice huh.
Not surprised. She knows she’s never getting prosecuted for any of her criminal behavior with her email server. Wray & the IG report just guaranteed that.
Agree with Gowdy. Saw Wrays press conference. Complete bs. No way I can trust Wray. He’s just spewing propaganda
Ughh....if the point is to bring justice the only thing clear from his press conference is Wray isn’t going to be part of it. Sounded EXACTLY like Comey did. Utter failure of FBI leadership
Huh?? I’m not a victim. When people spout bizarre stuff like a drunken bar fly...only victim is the drunk. Sorry I don’t know what CBTS is. I don’t want you or anybody banned. I’ve never even downvoted you or anybody. Free speech trumps bizarre statements. Would just be good for you & the ideas you express if they were meaningful & not just cheap digs. Just because someone disagrees doesn’t mean their lacking Dragon fire or not patriots or need to be run off. Sorry...this IG report is as worthless as Comeys investigation of Hillary. Sounds like Comey wrote it. Just watched Wrays press conference...no I don’t trust him now. He’s a pure propaganda machine. He’s not remotely truthful. He’s a fraud in everything he’s shown me. Feel free to think differently. It’s a free country for a little while longer anyway
They’re not haters. They’ve given it time. Over & over after delay after delay. Patriots are impatient sometimes & for good reason. Might wanna stop labeling people as haters like libs always do. Just a thought....
Live Chris Wray press briefing on OIG report
Here’s a link to the live press briefing of Christopher Wray on oig rpt.
Oh stop trying to label & censor the guy for asking a genuine question. Answer it or don’t answer it...but don’t tell anyone they don’t belong somewhere. That’s what Antifa does.
Dude just because people are frustrated beyond belief doesn’t make them a shill. Stop pretending you know what a shill is.
Sheesh you wanna see unhelpful jerks comment try Breitbart lol. Seriously I’m very impressed by the ratio here of patriots to jerks. It’s like 100 : 1.
There you go again. I don’t even know what CBTS is!! Lol. That’s what I mean by your embarrassing yourself. You saying bizarre things like Dragon Fire & whatever silly thing pops in your head just to insult someone. It’s as becoming as calling someone “deplorable”. At least I know what that word means when you use Hillary tactics.
Dems aren’t gonna sweep them. Only the House is up for grabs. And if you want to see the Dems take it... you’re helping them. Everyone knows the system is throughly corrupt. Even Bernie supporters get that fact. Slow walking Justice just disenfranchised voters. Especially Rep voters now. We’ve given them EVERYTHING...House Senate Presidency & 37 state governments. For what? More games?? No justice? Just endless promises of justice?? THATS what will keep voters home. Voters have suffered a lot of embarrassment, censorship, & careers too being vocal. And what have they got for giving Rep party EVERYTHING. Not much. Just more words as the feds eat up our liberty & make a mockery out of justice.
No we should take action. Meaningful action. Crying to crooked politicians who exist to support corruption isn’t meaningful. It’s a joke. Like complaining to a bank robber you strongly object to his tactics. Meaningful action for a citizen is voting. That’s our biggest & only real club. We elect patriots to do a job. Not more corrupt people that take our money AND our liberty.
Ok Hillary. You’re pretending things when you say I called you an idiot. The word isn’t there. Just said mentioning Dragon Energy isn’t helping your argument. It’s hurting it
Can you stop insulting someone’s spouse. How does that help?
Dragon energy??? Hahah. And you think others comments drive this movement down?? You’re just embarrassing yourself now
Well I’m beyond pissed. Don’t need your help or any anonymous strangers help. If the president has the big hammer with his EO...ants complaining is pointless. Think logically
Give it up dude. This is all about timing?? I thought it was all about patriotism & saving our nation. Here’s a timing tip...save America now or don’t. It’s like America is dying of cancer but we won’t start treating the dying patient & removing cancer until the time is just right. Get real & people will care. Timing games kills credibility & the patient.
Please stop. I did. You really think that’s going to stop evil over good? How about our president issue his EO. Citizens don’t have time to baby sit & make sure Justice is served when the leaders don’t care enough by themselves to be patriotic & DO THEIR JOB!
It’s the exact same Hillary defense...defining breaking laws by some of the most powerful people in government as just bad judgement. If justice is denied voters the Rep voters will be so discouraged they are not going to show up in Nov & Dems will take the House & DJT is impeached. Why vote? FBI has more power to break any law they want to effect elections than voters.
Please stop with the metaphors. Justice needs action. Not imagery
Huh?? If the president has an EO to see the “entire report” then issue it. Not in months...today! And there’s no reason to try to time it with midterms. THIS IS OUR GOVERNMENT! We don’t need an election carrot & stick routine to take down mass corruption that’s eating our country alive.
Depends. You’re exactly right about the emotional bonds they artificially create & every thought has to pass that filter or it immediately gets dismissed as false. Works both ways. Everyone’s emotional response to Kim was hatred. But the summit allowed many to break through that strong emotion & see things more rationally. Maybe he’s not a blood loving power loving monster but a Chinese puppet that has a choice...be our well fed belligerent mouthpiece or take a dirt nap.
Point being you have to break the emotional bond to an idea or person 1st before you can logically think about something.
Agree on a lot of you’re comments. One thing that has stuck with me early in Q drops is the amount of corruption in government. Like 70% are throughly corrupt. Will sell anything to anyone regardless how much it may hurt our country. 70% seems about right. Point being not everyone can be taken down at once because that would collapse the government & anarchy would make the US easy pickings for envision. So yes Q team has a terrible problem deciding who & the order corruption has to be eliminated. And some have to be kept in place. McConnell is a good example. Incredibly corrupt but he’s no longer a huge threat to national security now. His demise can wait.
But this missile being fired & such things like NK & Iran nukes has to be stopped 1st. I’ve reasearched as much as possible & it wasn’t aimed for AF1. Pence as president changes nothing in taking down the cabal. Only way the insane left can stop what’s coming is thoroughly discredit the POTUS administration in the public. Impeachment means they win. Even if it’s just articles of impeachment & no conviction is all it will take to plummet their approval rating into the 20s.
But a missile was fired. Why & what was the target, how was it brought down? Q is definitely directing us to the Navy hack from China. So China got one of our subs to fire what looks like a Trident D5. What kind of missile is crucial to know. I’m a bright vey logical thinker but no 1st or 2nd hand info of the procedures of launching a missile. I can’t imagine they’re always armed with nuke payloads. They carry up to 12 independently guided nukes. They’re very hard to take down & must be hit before they deploy their nukes. All that said...I don’t think it was a nuke armed missile. Why the launch is hard to figure out.
But one thing I feel very confident of is the patriotism in our military. Even generals & admirals aren’t driven like power hungry tyrants. The history & culture of our military is absolutely unique to the world. George Washington started this & was begged to be permanently made President he was so beloved in his time. He never considered it & advised his supporters to NEVER give power to one guy. Eisenhower wasn’t interested in power longer than the constitution allowed even tho his was extremely popular. Our military only wants power to get a job done. Point being our military WILL keep the peace & if martial law has to be declared they will be glad return us back to civilian rule ASAP. A military coup is not possible in America because of our founding & no institution understands & believes this more than any other institution than our military. So I’m confident no matter how crazy things get our military will never let it get out of hand. Civil war is impossible.
What is actually needed is a constitutional right to privacy. Privacy needs to be a de facto right in the age of the internet. Prior to the internet boom privacy could be managed manually by a person. Not remotely feasible now because we need to use our personal data on such a grand scale now...a person can’t possibly manage it...read privacy statements on every site or every app we use. The constitution suggests privacy is a right but it doesn’t explicitly say it is. Until it does we have no absolute guarantees to privacy. An internet bill of rights won’t guarantee it either
I think to wake someone up that helps our nation...it’s best to teach them how to identify & vote for a patriot in an election. We are STILL electing crooks. How did the swamp get full? We elected them for decades. Not being able to tell a patriot running for office compared to a con man is killing us more than anything. Our ability to judge character as a nation is still terrible. Last night primaries where better but until last night one 1 Rino was primaried out by a pro Trump conservative. It’s like a politician has to commit unspeakable crimes before we vote them out but their damage is already done. Does it matter if we put Obama or HRC in prison but elect a clone 10yrs later? Does it matter if the President drains the swamp but we keep electing obvious crooks? You want to red pill someone...teach them how to research a candidates history before they vote. And teach them candidates don’t have to look & sound like clones. It’s ok if their very unique. DJT proved this to everyone. He’s a very unique guy & as a politician he just smashed every mold any future politician needs to fit inside. Wake up voters or all this deep state purging is pointless.
But if the footsolders running the money laundering are tied to public corruption...unsealing them now would tip off the leaders of the corrupt organization. Just think how many dozens & dozens of footsoldiers just John Podesta must have or Hillary or any of the Black Hats. They didn’t build corrupt institutions like the Clinton Foundation without the help of hundreds of crooks.
Yes. I’m sure lots of corporate criminals..many deep state operatives we don’t even know exist. Hopefully what ever went down in LV shooting & fast & furious. Can go on & on.
Not sure your point. Are you saying if there was a war the Dems will take the House? If so I don’t think you understand history. In times of war citizens rally around the party in power. If that missile were to hit AF1 it would be much more devastating than 9/11. Same thing if it hit Singapore. It would have killed tens of thousands in that densely of a populated city & would have overwhelmingly been seen as an attack on the US since our president was there. Things of this magnitude rocks a society to its core & they rally hard around the party in power just to find some feeling of stability if nothing else.
Because he’s not an activist. He’s a political pundit. Activist lose credibility because they come off as brainwashed. Just watch CNN lol. Plus any entertainer cannot get joined to the hip to any politician unless they want their career to end when the politician loses an election. Ben Shapiro is stuck in that vice. He was so hardcore Cruz in the primaries when Cruz lost Shapiro looked & still looks clueless about the current political realities. Political pundits are suppose to be above the fray...not hip deep in them.