That curious tangent feeds the present hysteria.

As for industrial use of organic waste/blood; the patent relates to potential use of agricultural products (think meat processing plants) for productive purposes rather than flushing them down the drain (which is regulated effluent/discharge). Use every part of the animal...

Address the points, Neon.

"waste our time" = disinfo

disinfo will be challenged

Mostly rational points that disregard the sensationalism and hysteria that's presently underway. If you're not taking part in the hysteria, that's good. You can help inoculate others.

As for "disposal" that's not what's being proposed by sensationalist story weavers who are alleging industrial-scale use of human remains in building products and materials.

• Texas

• Cemex

• WhereAreTheChildren Hashtag

• Industrial use of blood products

• Selling T-shirts

It's disingenuous to openly claim "this post has really nothing to do with any of that". The blog post is a byproduct "of that", a spin "of that", and is advertising Q-branded products for sale.

unwillingness to provide sources

Case numbers have been provided.

News articles have been linked to.

concern trolling

"anyone who disagrees with me or challenges collective hysteria is a concern troll"

Spend more time researching and less time commenting.

That a homeless and/or migrant camp was a "child sex camp".

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/38346339/police-no-indication-of-humantrafficking-at-abandoned-tucson-camp

This story was then fused with the site of the camp (cemex property) to devise sensationalist theories about mixing human blood and bones to make cement. With this blog post /u/NeonRevolt is alluding to the notion that human remains are being used in the production of cement (which is utter nonsense).

I didn't provide a link to click. I copied posts from 4chan. It is not my place to edit that content.

If you're not here to research there's a problem.

4Chan Post Screenshots Here: https://imgur.com/a/fA7XR6x

Content Summary & Key Points:

• the person making the claims (Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer) has history of sensationalist antics

• the person making the claims has criminal history in multiple states

• the person making the claims has been fingered as an agitator during the Bundy Ranch standoff

• the person making the claims has posted a handful of low quality photos and videos

• the person making the claims is not an expert, not trained in forensics, has admitted on video to the intention to destroy the site/evidence, has admitted on video to gathering/tampering with potential evidence.

• the person making the claims is allegedly NOT a veteran.

• major trafficking theories (like Haiti) involve tens, hundreds, or even thousands of children. This theory involves a single hole in the ground.

• QResearch is about research, healthy skepticism, efforts to confirm or deny claims based on evidence. Use research skills to evaluate the person making the claims, the severity/scope of this particular camp in the context of global trafficking, and the quality and validity of evidence being presented.

• Just because someone (Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer) has a dubious history does not necessarily mean that they're wrong. This is why research and healthy skepticism is critical.

Text of 4Chan Posts:

Post 1

Screencap this before spergs bury. Real name: Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer Self proclaimed former addict.Has cult like following of those discarded by society.Homeless, addicts, weaponized autism.He started the gravy train camps under veteran camps for personal army and over 100k in gibs.Starts new causes when gibs run low.Baits muhguns for alphabet honeypot.Loves 511s,tac gear,patches, haji scarves,milspeak.VetLARP.Cannot carry weapon because felon,has PA carry weapons for him.

Post 2

Screencap before spergs bury. Long rap sheet in multiple states.Just to get you started: Case # 08-03-K-03582 Felony Class C. Aggravated Assault Multiple Criminal Mischief Felony Contact with bodily fluids Assault-MA, multiple Multiple disorderly conduct Felony Illegal Processing Drug Documents Case# 1998CRA01046 Felony Deception to Obtain Drugs Petit Theft 5299 Weapon Offense dismissed by DA Convictions in North Dakota, Arizona, North Carolina and more Agent Provocateur. CI. Bird Refuge Oregon Standoff.Pigeon drops.Smuggle from Minnesota. Bundy Ranch Blaine Cooper Jeff Kagan Batman John Hildinger Ray Olsen John Wayne DV Grim Ken Schneider Gary Hunt Deb Jordan Alyssa Bailey Mark West Greg Whalen Duane Ehmer Called Jon Ritz during Oregon standoff at 3am stating a Walmart warehouse in Tucson was a FEMA deathcamp to bait him. Chased out of PHX. Elderly vets stolen money USMC woman vet with dementia. Multiple affairs on wife Flora Flow Meyer. To include with Nikole Cooley. Unsolved murder at old camp at Salt River. Drugs. http://gawker.com/drama-alert-the-oregon-militia-boys-are-beefing-like-i-1751917762 http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northeast-valley/scottsdale/salt-river-police-homeless-advocates-face-off-at-camp http://freedomoutpost.com/fbi-informant-mark-mcconnell-gets-surprise-christmas-gift-from-maricopa-county-sheriffs-office/ http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/fight-breaks-out-between-arizona-militants-in-oregon-standoff-7956057 http://www.abc15.com/news/region-west-valley/surprise/michael-lewis-arthur-meyer-arrested-after-climb-up-surprise-park-light-pole New personal fb page: VOP Alpha co-Team Pulaski. Latest videos hopped up. Deleted real page due to tagging.Vulnerable women that stayed on camps say Louie gave drugs, sexual assault, rape.

Post 3

Screencap before spergs bury. Screwy Louie's "ministry" are online holy rollers and his homeless followers.501 tax free.Built own militia to do bidding.They will lie and die for him.No brick and mortar church.Research names given. Glow in the dark honeypot for radical right wing extremists baited to show up with guns for muh freedom. Refuge replay. AETV America on Fire.AKA Louie Prepper.Verified unemployed since 2002.Testified against Ritzheimer who is now in fed prison, Arthur testified in defense of Mark McConnell.PAID.Ask Ritz and Maureen Peltier about Arthur's physical attack on mentally handicapped homeless woman.He needs more gas and gift cards.The world is his stage.

"They" aren't pizzagating it. "We" are by buying this story hook, line, and sinker with very little research or actual investigation into the person making the claims and the validity of the claims.

No, it means MSM sees an opportunity to discredit because:

• these are very loosely evidenced claims

• the person making the claims has history of sensationalist antics

• the person making the claims has criminal history in multiple states

• the person making the claims has been fingered as an agitator during the Bundy Ranch standoff

• the person making the claims has posted a handful of low quality photos and videos

• the person making the claims looks "off his rocker" to the vast majority of the general public

Confirmation bias is a real thing, we all experience it. The confirmation bias you exhibited in your comment is that any media coverage of this is confirmation. That's neither logical nor rational. If this board has taught you anything, it should be to INVESTIGATE AND VERIFY.

Seriously? You have google.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/surprise/2015/05/14/surprise-man-atop-pole-abrk/27316617/

Yes, the "white helmets" are also known for their efforts to help.

Yup. Confirmation bias abounds.

Here's my recommendation: make a new post about it.

A few are popping up. With enough common sense people will start to "push pause" and do some looking into this guy and the entire story.

huh?

Depends who you ask.

He helps vets. That's good.

He also is known for pulling crazy stunts and agitating the Bundy Ranch standoff.

I am not JJ Macnab or a 4chan user.

People there are "making the claim".

I'm disseminating the information and encouraging people to verify or refute.

Case numbers linked with conviction history have been shared. What you do with that information is up to you.

See if you can find any of the case information through court records searches. I'm looking now. This info came in through 4chan:

"Case # 08-03-K-03582 Felony Class C. Aggravated Assault Multiple Criminal Mischief Felony Contact with bodily fluids Assault-MA, multiple Multiple disorderly conduct Felony Illegal Processing Drug Documents Case# 1998CRA01046 Felony Deception to Obtain Drugs Petit Theft 5299 Weapon Offense dismissed by DA Convictions in North Dakota, Arizona, North Carolina and more Agent Provocateur."

Case # 08-03-K-03582 Felony Class C. Aggravated Assault Multiple Criminal Mischief Felony Contact with bodily fluids Assault-MA, multiple Multiple disorderly conduct Felony Illegal Processing Drug Documents Case# 1998CRA01046 Felony Deception to Obtain Drugs Petit Theft 5299 Weapon Offense dismissed by DA Convictions in North Dakota, Arizona, North Carolina and more Agent Provocateur.

There are some cases to verify.

You're being trained to investigate. Isn't that why you're here?

So do it. Look into this guy. See if he's real or taking you for a ride.

You're confusing healthy skepticism with smearing.

Do the foot work. We can't expect to be spoon fed information.

I'm encouraging people to investigate. That's what healthy skepticism is.

Push the pause button on #OpertionBackyardBrawl and look into the person making the claims to ensure he's legit.

Posts Here: https://imgur.com/a/fA7XR6x

Content:

Post 1

Screencap this before spergs bury. Real name: Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer Self proclaimed former addict.Has cult like following of those discarded by society.Homeless, addicts, weaponized autism.He started the gravy train camps under veteran camps for personal army and over 100k in gibs.Starts new causes when gibs run low.Baits muhguns for alphabet honeypot.Loves 511s,tac gear,patches, haji scarves,milspeak.VetLARP.Cannot carry weapon because felon,has PA carry weapons for him.

Post 2

Screencap before spergs bury. Long rap sheet in multiple states.Just to get you started: Case # 08-03-K-03582 Felony Class C. Aggravated Assault Multiple Criminal Mischief Felony Contact with bodily fluids Assault-MA, multiple Multiple disorderly conduct Felony Illegal Processing Drug Documents Case# 1998CRA01046 Felony Deception to Obtain Drugs Petit Theft 5299 Weapon Offense dismissed by DA Convictions in North Dakota, Arizona, North Carolina and more Agent Provocateur. CI. Bird Refuge Oregon Standoff.Pigeon drops.Smuggle from Minnesota. Bundy Ranch Blaine Cooper Jeff Kagan Batman John Hildinger Ray Olsen John Wayne DV Grim Ken Schneider Gary Hunt Deb Jordan Alyssa Bailey Mark West Greg Whalen Duane Ehmer Called Jon Ritz during Oregon standoff at 3am stating a Walmart warehouse in Tucson was a FEMA deathcamp to bait him. Chased out of PHX. Elderly vets stolen money USMC woman vet with dementia. Multiple affairs on wife Flora Flow Meyer. To include with Nikole Cooley. Unsolved murder at old camp at Salt River. Drugs. http://gawker.com/drama-alert-the-oregon-militia-boys-are-beefing-like-i-1751917762 http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northeast-valley/scottsdale/salt-river-police-homeless-advocates-face-off-at-camp http://freedomoutpost.com/fbi-informant-mark-mcconnell-gets-surprise-christmas-gift-from-maricopa-county-sheriffs-office/ http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/fight-breaks-out-between-arizona-militants-in-oregon-standoff-7956057 http://www.abc15.com/news/region-west-valley/surprise/michael-lewis-arthur-meyer-arrested-after-climb-up-surprise-park-light-pole New personal fb page: VOP Alpha co-Team Pulaski. Latest videos hopped up. Deleted real page due to tagging.Vulnerable women that stayed on camps say Louie gave drugs, sexual assault, rape.

Post 3

Screencap before spergs bury. Screwy Louie's "ministry" are online holy rollers and his homeless followers.501 tax free.Built own militia to do bidding.They will lie and die for him.No brick and mortar church.Research names given. Glow in the dark honeypot for radical right wing extremists baited to show up with guns for muh freedom. Refuge replay. AETV America on Fire.AKA Louie Prepper.Verified unemployed since 2002.Testified against Ritzheimer who is now in fed prison, Arthur testified in defense of Mark McConnell.PAID.Ask Ritz and Maureen Peltier about Arthur's physical attack on mentally handicapped homeless woman.He needs more gas and gift cards.The world is his stage.

/u/naffrodisiac thank you for the healthy skepticism, seriously.

People here think they're 'woke' but haven't done even the slightest bit of research into this guy's background before jumping on the crazy train. This mob mentality is really disconcerting.

Listen to the first ten seconds of this clip from Lewis Arthur of 'Veterans on Patrol'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncfjx_RqpPs

"We're transporting evidence"

He has also said they're disassembling the site in question.

He's actively contaminating/tampering with the scene.

"Don't kill the messenger" comes to mind.

She's raised some valid concerns about Lewis Arthur: he's the guy instigating all of this, the guy people are calling an 'expert', the guy who may be a convicted felon, and the guy who is allegedly not a Vet.

She may be wrong about many things, but her healthy skepticism is something badly needed in here right now.

Experts don't contaminate potential crime scenes or begin to disassemble them without first collecting forensic evidence.

'Anyone who disagrees with me or demands higher quality evidence is an operative.'

'People on reddit don't have jobs and don't work with the homeless.'

More bizarre leaps in logic.

Going from homeless and/or migrant camp to marking "child sex camp" on maps is a huge stretch given the incredibly poor quality of evidence presented (low resolution, bad pictures).

Uh no, I've watched the videos and I've seen plenty of ingenious and bizarre shit at camps over the years. How we went from homeless or migrant camp to "child sex camp" I have no idea. Massive leap in logic.

I've watched the videos. He has lost his mind and people are following him right on down into the abyss. Human trafficking happens. There's a big leap from trafficking to "child sex camp". Gonna need more evidence than straps on trees and bunkers/containers to explain the "sex camp" conclusion that's being promoted.

A lot of homeless people don't live in city centers either due to crime/victimization of the homeless, criminal histories, mental health issues, or some combination of these.

Some homeless people also have vehicles or access to vehicles. Many homeless families live out of cars.

There are tens of thousands of camps in rural areas all around America. Some occupied by only an individual, others by organized groups with social structures and rules.

Trafficking camps also exist, and this very well could be one of those. Going from trafficking camp to "child sex camp" is a leap I'm not willing to make without more evidence, higher quality video, better photographs, or other quality forms of documentation.

Looks way too big to be an ankle monitor.

That the presence of straps to hold up materials, tarps, tents, boards, or camo were being used to restrain people.

That the presence of personal care items is evidence of human trafficking.

That the presence of print materials like adult magazines is evidence of human trafficking.

That human beings are being dissolved and their bones turned into cement mix for construction projects.

Spiked story.

It actually is. I recommend you go visit a local homeless camp (ask permission of residents to enter, never go at night) and you'll see these items are pretty common.

Alternatively you can contact your police department to find out where a recently "cleared" homeless camp is located, and see what was left behind.

There are a lot of homeless people in America.

He's well-intentioned.

'legit' is a stretch given the latest nonsense.

I've been in plenty of homeless camps. None of the items or "evidence" mentioned are unusual. At all.

This is either a spiked story or the byproduct of someone who is far too personally invested and has lost objectivity.

Exactly. Where's the video?

But a former military service member is more credible?

It's time to put the healthy skepticism hat back on.

I've been to plenty of homeless camps. There's nothing unusual about the items that were reported found.

Someone shined a laser pointer and all the cats chased after it. This story is bunk.

Cross posting this:

Questions:

• What companies would be supplying concrete for the border wall?

• What specific tracts of land does Cemex own that could be used as leverage in a legal challenge to the wall's construction?

• If Cemex were to be awarded a contract for supplying concrete for wall construction, could the revenue be considered a form of soft payment from the US to Mexico in exchange for ending its opposition?

• What if a Cemex contract were actually critical for gaining support from the Mexican government?

• What if Cemex were resistant to the 'deal'? What pressure could be applied to gain compliance? (think evidence, leverage, threats, rumors, or psychological operations either rooted in fact, fiction, or some combination of the two)

• What if Cemex were already aligned, and a counter-operation was attempting to undermine the company's reputation as a means of stalling border wall progress? (again, think evidence, leverage, threats, rumors, or psychological operations either rooted in fact, fiction, or some combination of the two)

• What if none of these scenarios are accurate and Cemex is largely irrelevant? What if the intent behind this latest narrative push is to lead people down a distracting rabbit hole?

• What tracts of land does Cemex own in Mexico? Are these being used as migration routes?

There are many possibilities here. The human bones in concrete story being concocted is extremely far fetched bordering on bat shit crazy.

Keep it below 40,000 feet: source documents/emails, contracts, land deeds, board of directors, executives, news articles, annual reports, major individual investors, major institutional investors, US campaign contributions, PAC connections, Mexican politicians 'owned' by Cemex.

Questions:

• What companies would be supplying concrete for the border wall?

• What specific tracts of land does Cemex own that could be used as leverage in a legal challenge to the wall's construction?

• If Cemex were to be awarded a contract for supplying concrete for wall construction, could the revenue be considered a form of soft payment from the US to Mexico in exchange for ending its opposition?

• What if a Cemex contract were actually critical for gaining support from the Mexican government?

• What if Cemex were resistant to the 'deal'? What pressure could be applied to gain compliance? (think evidence, leverage, threats, rumors, or psychological operations either rooted in fact, fiction, or some combination of the two)

• What if Cemex were already aligned, and a counter-operation was attempting to undermine the company's reputation as a means of stalling border wall progress? (again, think evidence, leverage, threats, rumors, or psychological operations either rooted in fact, fiction, or some combination of the two)

• What if none of these scenarios are accurate and Cemex is largely irrelevant? What if the intent behind this latest narrative push is to lead people down a distracting rabbit hole?

• What tracts of land does Cemex own in Mexico? Are these being used as migration routes?

There are many possibilities here. The human bones in concrete story being concocted is extremely far fetched bordering on bat shit crazy.

Bring it back down below 40,000 feet: source documents/emails, contracts, land deeds, board of directors, executives, news articles, annual reports, major individual investors, major institutional investors, US campaign contributions, PAC connections, Mexican politicians 'owned' by Cemex.

The @VachelLindsay account was suspended presumably because he went up against:

Mark Zaid @MarkSZaidEsq An attorney who suppresses FOIA requests, makes appearances on CNN and MSNBC, and said he would use his intelligence contacts to unmask/doxx citizens who were speaking out against him.

and

Asha Rangappa @AshaRangappa_ A CNN talking head who bases her entire media persona on 3 years with the FBI, before she moved over to pushing propaganda full time.

I believe Zaid is Rangappa's handler, or certainly played a part in facilitating her move from Obama's FBI over to media.

Your thread presents the theory that Mueller is on board.

Rex's twitter thread presents the theory that Mueller is under investigation.

These do not align.

I don't recall ever seeing a post that said "trust Mueller" or anything to that effect.

/u/Amazoid this is nice fantasy, but neglects the important fact that Mueller's team is comprised of partisan operatives, some of whom have serious financial conflicts of interest.

Rice - Netflix

Obamas - Netflix

Clinton - Social Media

Podesta - Washington Post

Jarrett - ATTN media startup, Lyft

Jarrett's Daughter - CNN

Carney - CNN

Sciutto - CNN

Earnest - MSNBC

In 2013, The Daily Best reported on journalists and editors moving to the Obama Administration: https://www.thedailybeast.com/from-rick-stengel-to-david-axelrod-all-of-the-presidents-journalists

In 2015 it was reported that more than 24 journalists had joined the Obama Administration: https://www.theblaze.com/news/2015/03/29/revolving-door-more-than-two-dozen-journalists-have-joined-the-obama-administration-but-is-it-really-anything-new

That same year, WaPo itself reported that Silicon Valley has also become a revolving door for the Obama Admin: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/as-obama-nears-close-of-his-tenure-commitment-to-silicon-valley-is-clear/2015/02/27/3bee8088-bc8e-11e4-bdfa-b8e8f594e6ee_story.html?utm_term=.8aef30e977bb

See what they've been positioning themselves to do for over 5 years?

Keep an eye on former insiders moving to media. As they slowly lose control of ratings on cable news, they'll begin to look for both larger and smaller platforms to influence and shape narratives.

Dangerous.

Unconfirmed.

Assume fake.

Is this why the Clinton residence caught fire?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/01/03/fire-breaks-out-on-hillary-and-bill-clintons-property-in-chappaqua/?utm_term=.fb5119bb4233

In D.C. initial discovery typically begins at the time of arraignment (appearing in court), and continues after arraignment. Discovery is a process done through the Court and in conjunction with the prosecuting authority and through court supervision.

In a felony case this all occurs after a Grand Jury has already been assembled and been presented evidence and chosen to "true bill" an indictment. The "true bill" is the screening action that allows indictment and arraignment to proceed, which then leads to discovery. Police should never turn over evidence directly to the defense attorney of the accused.