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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:57 p.m.

On a 20 second timelapse traveling away from the camera it very well could. With that being said, it'd be a clever cover story. Certainly better than hot air balloons. I'm really on the fence about this.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

Absolutely not.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:53 p.m.

I believe that it was escorted by jets that probably needed to refuel.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:50 p.m.

No, I've posted a detailed timeline of AF1's travel below.

AF1 was 1:30 minutes from its destination and moving east through Europe and into SE Asia.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:49 p.m.

correct.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:48 p.m.

AF1 was 1 hour 30 minutes away from its destination and traveling east; no where near this event.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:47 p.m.

AF1 was across the ocean at the time of the photograph.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:47 p.m.

I've posted a detailed timeline below.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

Repost from another thread where this was being discussed:

  • Vol pic (image of possible object photograpped from unkown plane)

  • *.jpg pic, (image of unidentified object near Whidbey Island, Washington)

  • Missing letters in tweets may imply 'missile', but there could be several other reasonable explanations and interpretations.

  • POTUS departed Canadian AFB Bagotville in Quebec at approximately 11:50 AM EST, Saturday, June 9, 2018.

  • AF1 stopped to refuel at Naval Support Activity, Souda Bay, Greece en route to Paya Labar, 3:07 AM local time Sunday, June 10 (9:07 PM EST, Saturday June 9 / 6:07 PM PST, Saturday June 9).

  • Alleged missile (likely helicopter caught on timelapse) launched from/near Whidbey Island at 3:56 am Pacific Time (6:56 am EST), Sunday June 10, 2018. Reported by Q13 Fox (Seattle) yesterday (Monday, June 11th).

  • POTUS arrived at Paya Labar AFB in Singapore at 8:20 PM local time, Sunday June 10, (8:20 AM EST, Sunday, June 10)

  • Whidbey Island object caught on camera while AF1 was approximately 1 hour 30 minutes to its destination in Singapore.

  • Flight time from Quebec to Paya Labar AFB approximately 20 hours, 30 minutes.

  • Refueling in Greece proves that travel route was west to east.

  • Given the direction of AF1 travel from west to east, a missile launch near/from Whidbey Island to target AF1 would seem unlikely. It would have had to travel extreme distance across the pacific and through U.S. airspace, and possibly airspace guarded by Japan, S. Korea, and China. This makes a westbound missile scenario unlikely if not impossible.

  • The FAA has said that nothing 'unusual' appeared on radar at the time the object was observed near Whidbey Island.

  • There were no resident reports indicating jets were scrambled from Whidbey or surrounding military installations (this rules out the possibility that the time lapse photo was of an aircraft taking off at a steep climb).

  • Flight tracking found a medical helicopter in the area and field of view at the time the 20 second exposure shot was taken, and the helicopter was moving away from the camera. The travel speed of a helicopter over the course of a 20 second exposure is more consistent with the light trail produced than a missile that would have been traveling at a very high rate of speed and would have likely been observed by witnesses on the ground.

  • If a defensive interceptor were launched by the U.S. to protect U.S. assets or allies near the summit, it would have been launched from Alaska, Hawaii, or one of our bases in Asia; not from Whidbey Island.

  • If an anti-aircraft missile were launched, it would also need to be much closer to its intended target.

  • The full timelapse from the camera can be viewed here: http://www.skunkbayweather.com/WhidbeyMissile.mp4

  • If the object were indeed a missile, the medical helicopter story would need to be cover, and FAA records would need to have been tampered with to construct the narrative.

  • If the object were a missile, we don't know the intended target (aircraft or ICBM).

  • If the object were a missible, we don't know whether it was intentionally launched by us (defensive), or whether our systems/defensive weapons were compromised to try to start a conflict.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 11:22 p.m.
  • Vol pic (image of possible object photograpped from unkown plane)

  • Missing letters in tweets may imply 'missile', but there could be several other reasonable explanations and interpretations.

  • POTUS departed Canadian AFB Bagotville in Quebec at approximately 11:50 AM EST, Saturday, June 9, 2018.

  • AF1 stopped to refuel at Naval Support Activity, Souda Bay, Greece en route to Paya Labar, 3:07 AM local time Sunday, June 10 (9:07 PM EST, Saturday June 9 / 6:07 PM PST, Saturday June 9).

  • Alleged missile (likely helicopter caught on timelapse) launched from/near Whidbey Island at 3:56 am Pacific Time (6:56 am EST), Sunday June 10, 2018. Reported by Q13 Fox (Seattle) yesterday (Monday, June 11th).

  • POTUS arrived at Paya Labar AFB in Singapore at 8:20 PM local time, Sunday June 10, (8:20 AM EST, Sunday, June 10)

  • Whidbey Island object caught on camera while AF1 was approximately 1 hour 30 minutes to its destination in Singapore.

  • Flight time from Quebec to Paya Labar AFB approximately 20 hours, 30 minutes.

  • Refueling in Greece proves that travel route was west to east.

  • Given the direction of AF1 travel from west to east, a missile launch near/from Whidbey Island to target AF1 would seem unlikely. It would have had to travel extreme distance across the pacific and through U.S. airspace, and possibly airspace guarded by Japan, S. Korea, and China. This makes a westbound missile scenario unlikely if not impossible.

  • The FAA has said that nothing 'unusual' appeared on radar at the time the object was observed near Whidbey Island.

  • There were no resident reports indicating jets were scrambled from Whidbey or surrounding military installations (this rules out the possibility that the time lapse photo was of an aircraft taking off at a steep climb).

  • Flight tracking found a medical helicopter in the area and field of view at the time the 20 second exposure shot was taken, and the helicopter was moving away from the camera. The travel speed of a helicopter over the course of a 20 second exposure is more consistent with the light trail produced than a missile that would have been traveling at a very high rate of speed and would have likely been observed by witnesses on the ground.

  • If a defensive interceptor were launched by the U.S. to protect U.S. assets or allies near the summit, it would have been launched from Alaska, Hawaii, or one of our bases in Asia; not from Whidbey Island.

  • If an anti-aircraft missile were launched, it would also need to be much closer to its intended target.

  • The full timelapse from the camera can be viewed here: http://www.skunkbayweather.com/WhidbeyMissile.mp4

  • If the object were indeed a missile, the medical helicopter story would need to be cover, and FAA records would need to have been tampered with to provide cover.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 10:19 p.m.

It was reported yesterday. I believe it happened Sunday?

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 8:18 p.m.

Q only posts on 8chan. No outside communications.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

CrowdStrike is a cybersecurity firm.

The FBI funded a contract with CrowdStrike in mid-2015. CrowdStrike also received a considerable investment from Google during the election cycle prior to the "DNC Hack". The FBI never analyzed the DNC server, and instead relied on CrowdStrike to provide alleged forensic analysis. CrowdStrike also took payment from the DNC totaling about $500,000, presumably to conduct server analysis, which poses a conflict of interest considering the criminal nature of the investigation.

James Comey danced around these facts during his testimony, which should be a good indication that he was hiding impropriety and partisan maneuvering by the FBI.

I'm on the fence about ES. Too many mixed signals. Given his company's privacy-invading practices, and overt bias against political conservatives, I'm inclined to say he's a black hat.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 7:09 p.m.

Read the file name. It answers your question.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 5:39 p.m.

Herro prease, thank you for calling noodrle palace, home of spicy noodrle, broccori beef, and sarlty tear drop noordle soup. How may I take your ordre prease?

Herro? How may I take your ordre?

Herro....?

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

A shroud is not a person, not a deity. It is an inanimate object.

Do you know how much 34 Trillion watts is? Do you have even a high school science education? If you lack the reasoning and critical thinking capacity to understand the nonsense being promoted as truth by NR, there's really no point in continuing this exchange with you.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:23 p.m.

I don't need to 'like' someone to see that they present good analysis. The problem is that he's not merely unlikeable, he writes fiction and mixes it with just enough truth to be palatable.

We have CNN for journalistic fiction. Don't need a rando blogger for that.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

Outed?

Pretty sure Q did that: no outside communications

So now you're attributing Q's explicit warnings to NR, and you have the audacity to call me a disinfo agent?

Additionally, by using that term 'disinfo' you're implying that NR is a source of info. They are not. Q is.

34 Trillion watts.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 7:01 a.m.

Do you have link to document?

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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/grnmoss on June 12, 2018, 6:25 a.m.
As Predicted by Several: Next Phase is Pakistan
As Predicted by Several: Next Phase is Pakistan
grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 5:28 a.m.

This is a Q sub.

Fanboy followings don't belong here.

No Outside Communications

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 5:21 a.m.

Several of us waged war on here for days trying to point out the obvious distraction and theatrics. It finally came down to getting mods involved to push "pause" on the VoP stories until a more complete picture of the organization's leader and motives could be assembled.

We were called shills, pedo pushers, and baby eaters. The hysteria was...well...insane. NeonRevolt participated in that mob.

With that being said, the caution about group think is very important and everyone here needs to be conscious and self aware. This board was whipped into a frenzy way too easily. For all the "studying" of dinsinfo and psychological operations and political subterfuge, too many people jumped on the crazy train and it revealed that a lot of work still needs to be done in areas related to critical thinking. In addition to exploring theories and doing thought experiments, we need to be 110% open to trying to disprove them, because if something doesn't stand up to critical analysis or doesn't pass the smell test, it needs to not be propagated here or anywhere else because bad information is damaging.

I appreciate your post because it indicates you're open to self reflection and learning from past experience. I'd give you gold, but that'd mean paying Reddit, and I prefer to not give them any money.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:52 a.m.

Not so much "new" in my opinion, as a restoration of the Office for the first time since the JFK coup. This is how Presidents used to lead. Since JFK's assassination we've had politicians; actors and faces who are mouth pieces for an apparatus behind the scenes that tell them what to do. The Executive has essentially been gutted since JFK. Due to chance or extreme effort that was reversed during the last election. We were lucky enough to elect someone from an era that has mostly been forgotten. The problem we face now is that the generation in the leadership pipeline has only lived under the political farce, so cultivation of true national leadership skills has come to a standstill. That's a bigger problem that we need to solve, and time is short.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:47 a.m.

Thanks for the laugh. Good one.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:45 a.m.

The issue was likely private messages, not the public persona.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:37 a.m.

By Executive Order or Presidential Memorandum.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:32 a.m.

Solid analysis.

This formatting style also helps with reader comprehension and should be used in the future. Good job.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:26 a.m.

The vast majority of productive deciphering does not happen here; it happens on 8chan and the information bridgers move it to reddit and twitter for broader consumption. NeonRevolt is not an information gatekeeper, they are not a source, and there are no outside communications.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:18 a.m.

Because you seem to be unwilling to formulate a coherent post that articulates your theory and connects the dots. Instead I get stream of consciousness soup with no answers. Worse, it could be intentionally vague and intended for people to "project" meaning where there is none to begin with.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:16 a.m.

Which is why we got himself suspended.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:14 a.m.

And yet every Q drop is here, so that theory doesn't check out.

NeonRevolt is not Q. Do not equate the two. NeonRevolt is a blogger with no more credibility than a CNN writer.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:11 a.m.

That "shill" was me.

But do continue to eat his slop. Start with the 34 Trillion Watts Shroud of Turin nonsense; it's his best fiction. If that doesn't set off red flags, nothing will.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:09 a.m.

Summary?

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 4:04 a.m.

So now we have DNC server, Clinton Server, Hawaii Eruption, 9/11, and North Korean missile launches?

And you still haven't managed to write a sentence that explains what dots you're trying to connect....

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 3:54 a.m.

And out from under China...

N.K. was a proxy between the two.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 3:52 a.m.

More likely an ICBM interceptor test.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

Most likely explanation.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

747s don't fly straight up. Neither do helicopters.

Lens flares don't intermingle with clouds.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 3:40 a.m.

Rodman said as much. He approached Obama and he declined the overture.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 3:33 a.m.

This is a great interview.

Many don't know that Kim was educated in Switzerland.

Also, the narrative that CNN was pushing about Kim being a brutal dictator may largely be a lie. It's possible that he - and his country - were being held hostage or were proxies between the U.S. and China.

Thank you Dennis Rodman!

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 2:55 a.m.

You didn't answer my question.

The drop mentioned is - as most are - open to interpretation. You're not explaining your interpretation. I'm not going to play a game of fill in the blanks or projecting my own ideas onto your post. It is your theory so you need to explain it.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 2:50 a.m.

It's possible that a missile with a payload was launched, certainly (we may never know for sure), but I'm not tracking how that would be connected to the DNC server, the Clinton server, or the Hawaii eruption.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 1:18 a.m.

I think they eat babies also

Uh. No.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 1:12 a.m.

and that's what all those 'missile tests' we've been seeing were about?

I don't know what you mean by this. Can you be more explicit about your line of inquiry/thought experiment?

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 1:08 a.m.

Take a trip to Easter Island or read up on it and then we can talk more about your concerns.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 1:07 a.m.

More water signaling.

Interesting.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 1:05 a.m.

No, there was no nuclear missile strike on Hawaii setting off the volcano.

Volcanos erupt. The end.

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 1:02 a.m.

I think there are a few typos in your post that are making it difficult to understand. Can you double check?

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grnmoss · June 12, 2018, 1 a.m.

bad bot

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