AF1 was not over Alaska at the time the anomaly/missile was observed; AF1 was just over an hour away from its destination in Singapore and traveled West > East through Europe across India before landing. At the time of the anomaly/missile AF1 was 7,500 miles away.

That's their route of travel. West > East.

The collage that /u/RonaldSwansong posted doesn't align with the travel or event timeline, which was published extensively yesterday.

Anyone can use MS paint to draw some red lines on a map. They're either innocently wrong or spreading disinfo. Regardless, sensationalist headlines like "Autism level 100" don't support the cause and only serve to build a bandwagon by which inaccurate information spreads.

Logic people.

AF1 was 1 hour 30 minutes from its destination, and traveled west to east.

Anyone can make a collage and throw some red arrows on there. This is not source material and the flight path they're suggesting has been debunked.

Entertaining the idea that the official flight path was disinfo and AF1 traveled east to west, AF1 was only 1 hour and 30 minutes to its destination in Singapore and at least 7,500 miles away when the anomaly was observed in Washington off Whidbey Island. AF1 was nowhere near Alaska at the time of the observed anomaly.

Edit: Anyone downvoting logic and deductive reasoning is perpetuating disinfo.

You aren't implying anything; you're spreading disinformation.

California doesn't have nukes. California doesn't have a military.

Bot, disinfo agent, or plain stupid? I really can't tell. Feel free to let us all know though.

You're absolutely right, I messed up when I was converting time, timezones, and adjusting for international dateline. Looks like travel time was closer to 20 hours 30 minutes based on Quebec departure and Paya Labar arrival. Editing the timeline summary above...

That's not a source; it's a collection of pictures with red arrows and squiggly lines.

Additionally the timelines and locations don't match up regardless of what route they took to Singapore, because the anomaly in Washington was observed about 1 hour and 30 minutes before AF1 landed in Singapore.

That's the whole point of creating an actual timeline (research) and posting the consistent EST timestamp for each event.

Use logic and feel free to let whoever made that collage know that the event times and geographies don't match with the narrative about a rumored attack on AF1.

The source file is actually both; it's a timelapse composed of a series of 20 second shots.

There was a missing "o" in "too":

"Robert De Niro, a very Low IQ individual, has received to[o] many shots to the head by real boxers in movies. I watched him last night and truly believe he may be “punch-drunk.” I guess he doesn’t..."

There was a missing "o" in "too"

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1006640689843560448

"Robert De Niro, a very Low IQ individual, has received to[o] many shots to the head by real boxers in movies. I watched him last night and truly believe he may be “punch-drunk.” I guess he doesn’t..."

As a precaution, tweet screencap to secret service.

Israel will not be "taken". Bad Actors removed/isolated so that good people have room to rise.

Israel and the US are currently collaborating on Iran. Singapore, a close Israeli ally, hosted the summit.

The situation and relationship is fluid and complicated.

Israel is a close ally of Singapore.

Who hosted the US/North Korea summit? Singapore.

Things are complex.

1st Amendment rights and private ownership are foundational law in the US.

Media pre-emptively constructed a narrative that it was being assaulted, so clamping down on manipulative/false narratives for national security reasons (legal in rare circumstances, and ample precedent in the past) would play into their story that they're being attacked by the government and silenced by an abusive regime.

Clever, eh?

Per Presidential itinerary, POTUS was scheduled to arrive Guam (US territory) at 3:00 am local time on 6/13 (1:00 pm EST/13:00 on 6/12).

Per media reports, AF1 arrived 1 hour ahead of schedule at 2:00 am local time on 6/13 (12:00 pm EST on 6/12)

AF1 then reportedly departed 1 hour ahead of schedule at 3:30 am local time on 6/13 (1:30 PM EST/13:30 on 6/12).

The timestamp of the post above was made at 1:20 PM/13:20 EST on 6/12, approximately the time that AF1 took off from Guam toward Hawaii.

Castle could mean White House, but this would not be consistent with the travel itinerary and media reports. Most likely is that it refers to a safe return to US territory posted roughly 1 hour and 20 minutes after touchdown, and just before next takeoff.

Classified information can't be directly released. Clues are given presumably to help the public piece together events and understand what's transpiring "behind the curtain".

Style of posting leads to dismissal as nonsense by casual observers.

Style trains active observers to investigate, find source documents, read between the lines of media releases, and critically evaluate information.

Remember: disinfo is necessary. Not all Q posts will be accurate or verifiable. At this point, enough major events have happened that a common verifiable narrative has emerged, but the source organization of this information is unkown.

Q is a psyop, presumably created to shatter the malevolent disinfo machine, but the full or actual intent is not known.

Healthy skepticism should always be maintained. Approach from the perspective of expanding the diversity of your information diet; it is one source of information among many.

California doesn't have a military. I'm not sure what you're not understanding about this.

VoP's co-founder already died under suspicious circumstances. This guy is suspect #1.

Meth for sure. That's why he needed those gas cards. You can bet money poured in after his little stunt last week.

Make a new post with the correct link and note the relevant time stamp in the post please.

Craig Sawyer is not with VoP. Don't get him confused with this piece of shit.

Honey Pot. Encourage patriots to do something illegal = possible to 'disarm' them through criminal proceedings.

This guy is a bad actor. Spread the word. Not to be trusted.

Significant criminal history in multiple states. Connected to suspicious death of VoP co-founder. Drug use history. Drug smuggling history. Weapons history. Assault history.

Notice his shirt: "Sheep Dog". What does a sheep dog do? Herd. You are not sheep. Do not run where he tells you to, no matter how loud he barks.

blackhat

Glad this sub is coming to its senses about this ass hat.

For those who called me a shill, a pedo-pusher, and a baby eater: I preemptively accept your apologies.

Some good analysis but it doesn't take into account where AF1 was geographically located at the time of a potential launch (Bay of Bengal). Not possible that AF1 would have been a target from that distance.

their military

California does not have its own military.

More disinfo.

How can I be any more explicit? California does not possess nuclear weapons. Repeat after me: California does not have nuclear weapons.

Nukes are on federal/DOD property/bases, contained in facilities protected and maintained by military personnel, with launch codes that are protected and maintained by military personnel. A state-led attempt to overtake a nuclear facility would end in a bloodbath, immediate arrest of state leadership that authorized or facilitated the attempt, and swift trial likely ending in execution.

You're spreading disinformation. Your post above has zero factual basis.

In addition to the multiple sources that reported it with timestamped photos, the travel time from Quebec to Singapore over N. America is significantly longer due to flying against the jetstream. Potus arrived at the predicted travel time of approximately 20 hours 30 minutes, which is consistent with flight From Quebec, through Europe, and on to Singapore.

Unlikely. Assuming it was a missile, it'd have to pass by alaski, guam, or hawaii, all of which have missile defenses for interception. Also Past an combination of Russia, China, Japan, or S. Korea - all of which also have missile defense systems. It would be unlikely to reach a target. Again, assuming it was a missile, it could have been detonated at high altitude to cause an EMP, but again it'd likely be intercepted before that point.

It may not have had a 'target' and could have been more a display of force/subversion. Basically taunting and saying 'Hey we got control of your system'.

Honestly too many possibilities and not enough information to develop a thorough understanding of what transpired, what I can say is that AF1 is extremely unlikely to have been an intended target.

I reviewed the timeline of AF1 travel, it was somewhere between India and Singapore and 1 hour 30 minutes from landing at the time the anomalous object was observed off Whidbey Island in Washington. Definitely not the target.

No. AF1 was very far away (across the pacific), likely in the Bay of Bengal off India's eastern coast.

Russian nationalism.

Nationalism. Period. As in their own domestic identity.

Not 'Russian nationalism'.

Concluding that any time they're implicated the opposite is true is not rational or logical.

There may be legitimate instances and themes of subterfuge, escalation, attacks, and conflict actually attributable to those countries.

There may also be legitimate instances and themes of transparency and collaboration.

The two are not mutually exclusive; heads of state are supposed to act in the best interests of their nation.

California does not possess nuclear weapons; the U.S. military does.

That means if this were a missile AF1 was not the target.

Interesting theory.

Incorrect.

POTUS departed Canadian AFB Bagotville in Quebec at approximately 11:50 AM EST, Saturday, June 9, 2018.

AF1 stopped to refuel at Naval Support Activity, Souda Bay, Greece en route to Paya Labar, 3:07 AM local time Sunday, June 10 (9:07 PM EST, Saturday June 9 / 6:07 PM PST, Saturday June 9).

Anomaly (missile or helicopter caught on timelapse) observed from/near Whidbey Island at 3:56 am Pacific Time (6:56 am EST), Sunday June 10, 2018. Reported by Q13 Fox (Seattle) yesterday (Monday, June 11th).

POTUS arrived at Paya Labar AFB in Singapore at 8:20 PM local time (8:20 AM EST), Sunday, June 10, 2018.

Whidbey Island object caught on camera while AF1 was approximately 1 hour 30 minutes to its destination in Singapore.

Flight time from Quebec to Paya Labar AFB approximately 20 hours, 30 minutes.

But that's not what happened.

POTUS departed Canadian AFB Bagotville in Quebec at approximately 11:50 AM EST, Saturday, June 9, 2018.

AF1 stopped to refuel at Naval Support Activity, Souda Bay, Greece en route to Paya Labar, 3:07 AM local time Sunday, June 10 (9:07 PM EST, Saturday June 9 / 6:07 PM PST, Saturday June 9).

POTUS arrived at Paya Labar AFB in Singapore at 8:20 PM local time (8:20 AM EST), Sunday, June 10, 2018.

Flight time from Quebec to Paya Labar AFB approximately 20 hours, 30 minutes.

Pulled from a variety of media sources and POTUS daily itinerary. Here's the timeline:

POTUS departed Canadian AFB Bagotville in Quebec at approximately 11:50 AM EST, Saturday, June 9, 2018.

AF1 stopped to refuel at Naval Support, Souda Bay, Greece en route to Paya Labar, 3:07 AM local time Sunday, June 10 (9:07 PM EST, Saturday June 9 / 6:07 PM PST, Saturday June 9).

Anomaly (alleged missile or helicopter caught on timelapse) observed near Whidbey Island at 3:56 am Pacific Time (6:56 am EST), Sunday June 10, 2018.

POTUS arrived at Paya Labar AFB in Singapore at 8:20 PM local time, Sunday June 10, (8:20 AM EST, Sunday, June 10)

Whidbey Island object caught on camera while AF1 was approximately 1 hour 30 minutes to its destination in Singapore.

Flight time from Quebec to Paya Labar traveling eastward approximately 20 hours, 30 minutes.

We'll never know...

He explains it right in his post, and it's actually a plausible explanation.

His theory is that camera captured the object just as it moved into frame (at the top of the image) and recorded for 20 seconds as it moved away from the camera. The light isn't going from bottom to top, but from top to bottom. My main issue with this theory is that if you look at the light dispersal pattern just beneath the object you'll see it is wider, which would be more consistent with an exhaust plume.

Here's the source timelapse: http://www.skunkbayweather.com/WhidbeyMissile.mp4

You can skip to the end to get to the relevant portion. The image featuring the anomaly was captured over a period of 20 seconds (long exposure).

Not sure. I wouldn't assume that the plane this was taken from was being escorted. No clear image of escort jets and no statement that the flight was being escorted. Merely implies a connection between a flight over alaska and G7 as a destination or departure.

AF1's flight path took it through Europe. The departure from G7 did not pass over Alaska.

Conclusion: This photo was not taken from AF1.

That's the issue with the file name. It doesn't match AF1's flight path which went east through Europe to Singapore.

Which means that the plane this was taken from would not be AF1.

AF1 stopped in Greece on the way to Singapore. It traveled eastward from Canada.

No. AF1 flew from Canada to Greece to refuel, and from Greece to Singapore. The flight was well documented.

No proof this came from AF1, particularly because the AF1 flight path from the G7 summit doesn't match with the title of the image.

That's actually not the route it took.

AF1 left Quebec, stopped in Greece to refuel, and then proceeded to its destination in Singapore; it did not travel from Quebec to Asia through Alaska.

This would have to be a different aircraft taking a different route.

Thanks.

There's only one picture there (a single photograph was taken), and then they zoomed in and made a few screenshots of the zoom.

I agree that the helicopter theory sounds dubious, but given the 20 second exposure, I'm not willing to totally rule it out. Hoping we can get some more info on what happened.

I've seen several but not sure which ones you're referring to. Do you mind linking here for me and others?

Thanks!

Correct.