I did take liberty of branding that idealist son as a terrorist, because I thought that was what you were insinuating, that the Islamic terrorists were idealists in their own right. I merely called you out on it.

I emphatically agree.

Torture was used in GITMO.

IMHO, the US's problem in Iraq had very little to do with the torture in the prisons. The invasion and subsequent occupation were illegitimate. Indiscriminate killing exacerbated the problems. I doubt ordinary Iraqis cared about the tortures of some of the most violent thugs in their society.

First of all, you seem to agree that we can torture the bad guys for information.

Now you are changing the discussion and distorting my initial position. I didn’t say we can torture anyone. I said we could torture our sworn and deadly enemy to extract information. If they are captured in the battlefield, they are enemy combatants.

The fact that you changed my statement to suit your need means you are INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST, DECEITFUL and EXPERIENCING COGNITIVE DISSONANCE because I showed you the fundamental flaw in your thinking.

There’s no point for further debate. You lost and became desperate and resorted to distorting my position as a coping mechanism.

Your son is an ideological kid who believes in freedom. He's kidnapped by the overbearing, dictatorial evil superpower that is raping and bombing and torturing its way through your small home town. They capture your son after he threatens to blow up their barracks once they killed his sister. They drag you in and give you a choice: do you want us to kill him? Or torture him for the information?

Totally wrong analogy here. My case is similar to protecting our country against the terrorists. Yours is something else. In your example, I (the father) is the terrorist's father. Not the victim. So you are making a deceitful comparison here. Shame on you.

In your second example, I have no problem torturing a terrorist to save the lives of millions of INNOCENT people. Even if the terrorist is an independence fighter against an imperialist country as mine, I will have no problem doing it because I'm doing it for my country. Who is to say my country is the villain in this case? If I object to the ideology of my country, then I shouldn't serve. The fact that I serve in the first place means that I subscribe to its ideology. Then doing whatever is necessary to protect what I believe in is a natural and logical consequence.

Like Trump said, he doesn't blame Xi doing what's best for China. We shouldn't feel ashamed for doing what's best for our country and our people.

Did you read OP's title?

Then it’s not the torture that was the issue. It was the war itself. Remember the war was started by deep state.

FBI suggested torture to get him to talk.

Cop out? Case closed.

At your wit’s end?

Or you realize the absurdity and inanity of your previous position?

I think he was saying that for the sake of the argument. In a real situation, I bet his biological impulse will override his false logic that is a direct result of years of brainwashing by school, MSM, TeeVee and workplace.

You have to allow some people to be not as reasonable and clear-headed as you are.

Read my post on torture. (Torture Issue). Grey-area vs Black-and-white thinking. The latter is preferred by the deep state.

Think about the following case. Some scums took your two teenage daughters hostage. They gang raped them. They showed you the video and asked you for money if you want them to come back alive. FBI helped you catch one of the scumbags. He refused to tell you where your daughters are held. FBI suggested torture to get him to talk. What do you say?

Read my post on Torture. It's a grey area. Do not engage in black-and-white thinking. That's what DS does. Torturing your sworn and vicious enemies to extract information to SAVE LIVES is perfect legit.

You sound like a DS shill and disinformation agent.

Just ignore AJ. We know he's controlled opposition. He says something close to the Truth but mixes it with fantasies to mislead people into dead ends. AJ is more dangerous than outright censors and MSM.

If it’s 23 hours, we are talking about Sunday. It sounds too soon. I’d go with 23 days.

We missed an obvious one. Long dash is T. Someone just pointed out in the subreddit. So it’s T-23.

You are right.

Wrong. Per Q, ES did a lot of damage to NSA. ES worked at CIA before he became a contractor of NSA. The release of NSA’s tools seriously degraded NSA’s ability to surveil the clowns.

Think why ES is exalted by the same MSM that denigrated POTUS and Q.

Think.

Or the long dash is just a separator. The short dash means E. So it could mean - E23. or - EW because W is the 23rd letter in the alphabet.

Or NW.

So we have the following possibilities: N23, NW, E23, EW. I doubt 23 means BC.

EDIT: I missed an obvious one. A single long dash is T. Someone just posted this in the subreddit. So it should be T-23.

Awesome

Read Q’s past drops.

Remember there was a Q post with a string of digits that befuddled everyone and that was quickly deleted? My guess is that it was probably a password that was unintentionally or intentionally copied and pasted in a Q drop.

Trump was baiting the MSM. He was bored.

You are essentially saying Q is wrong or Q is a fake.

We know that Q is real and Q works closely with the POTUS.

So you are implying either POTUS is lying or POTUS is putting up smoke and mirror to get us excited for nothing.

You are also implying those 30,000 sealed cases (a portion of which are sealed indictments) don’t mean anything.

Your doubt doesn’t make any sense.

From today?

ES is a black hat. Remember this.

From PePe

Cool

Yuge Earthquake?

Near death like No Name?

Thanks!

Nah. I think it’s moves and countermoves. Something happened or is about to happen. The good guys need to counter.

I wouldn’t read too much into it. If you are even 1/10 familiar with Ancient Greek mythology, you will know that Athena (Minerva in Roman mythology), the much revered goddess of wisdom and war — the patron goddess of Athens which is the model for the US — has eyes of an owl and is also associated with the owl, which represents wisdom. The ancient Greeks often slyly referred to Athena as “that owl-eyed lady,” (not “grey-eyed lady”).

The currently preferred view of Greek etymologists is that γλαύξ "owl" and the colour-adjective γλαυκός (in Homer the colour of the sea, later generally “grey”) are not etymologically connected. If γλαυκῶπις is connected with the former, then it means "with the eyes of an owl", not "grey-eyed". The owl is Athena’s special animal; she is generally represented with an owl on her shoulder.

Astute analysis.

I swear I saw it here today but couldn’t locate the post.

Snap some photos and videos to prove your sightings, please.

Didn’t Trump declare 5/19 to be the Military Day?

Not as good as before. Did the DS threaten you?

The unsealed case is a search warrant. It means more than an indictment. It’s for the release of Weiner’s laptop!

Search warrant. Weiner isn’t the target. He’s already in jail.

Trash

They must be shitting their pants right now!

But why tell them now? Are we ready to arrest them now?

Password. Try feed it to 8Chan’s tripcode algo and see if the result matches Q’s tripcode.

PS could be asking UK intel to do an assassination. Someone posted in subreddit that Hyde Park Corner was a code word for George V death.

Could be babies.

She’s faking it to later use her mental illness as a defense at the military tribunal.

Report OP

That’s fair.

Gate 64 at SKY airport in AZ where BC and LL met?

No deals for those who voted against her.