Let's talk with Jim-san , who is the manager of bbspink.com. If you can write your questions or some other things in English, please write them in English.
Since Jim-san is very kind, so that in case you get spelling error, or write in incorrect grammar, he will be able to understand what you want to say.
Those who cannot understand English may write them in Japanese. Accommodating persons will translate for you.
988 名前：980 投稿日：2009/08/27(木) 16:18:43 ID:AlQHTUIs >>987 I started watchig in the 90s, so Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi are very outstanding. Sampras 's astonishing chip and charege and Agassi's fashion and quickly return are impressive.
989 名前：名無し編集部員 投稿日：2009/08/27(木) 17:15:23 ID:/NdFVjwg Did Sammy Sosa really use the drug? I hope it isn't true.
Jim-san, I'm a residents at megami. There are many false declaration to Delete-Request board, recentry. These are written by Arashi, and sometimes deleter rewards it. Then, the Arashi was riding in tone and more violent. I don't know how to settle it. Please tell us your opinion.
>>13 I understand. Right now I am looking for the solution. I understand that this 荒らし is breaking the local rules too. The 女神 board has severe penalties for that. The solution is being discussed, I am confident it will be found.
>>14 Thank you for quick response, I'm impressed! I heard it being discussed, I am very confident my day. I hope that you find a good solution. Thank you very much.
Are you also discussing how to ban those trolls who try to impose self-righteous morals on Megami by copy-pasting text, and those who upload photos right after a megami deletes them?
>>19 I think probably there is no way to stop someone from making a bad comment, but there are ways to stop people from making to many and when a pattern is found, that pattern can be blocked. Probably there is a way with Pasegueno to do it, that is not currently live, but is working well on the Kakiko servers. Although it is still being discussed, the harshest penalty I can find and come up with will be what I implement as long as it feels like the majority opinion. I am not a religious person, but if I have any sort of spirituality it is manifest in my devotion to 女神 w.
Hi, people. It's a quite strange feeling to see my friends on facebook talking of img.4ch.org. It's also kinda sad to see some innocent's knocking a door of otaku culture. But, how did they find that. I have no idea what happened to them.
>>23 I've been fairly busy whole this summer. All the reason I couldn't even check here was the shower room business. We started working on building a new shower room from nothing in about the end of July. But, We never got things going straight since the other person I worked with didn't want any professional workers for it would cost some money. It's funny that we almost spent 7,000 dollars after all. We tried to spend as little money as possible, but nothing went right, so it's possible we spent more than what we would pay for good jobs. And now most of the summer's gone. Maybe I will bikeride somewhere near here, and it seems to be it I can do for now.
>>24 You have learned a valuable lesson. Even if it cost the same to build, it must have been a real experience to build it yourself. You will get pleasure everytime you shower knowing that your hands have crafted it. Every imperfection will be yours. All the wonderous leaks and cracks will be there for your grandchildren.
>>25 Yeah, the experience is not bad to have. But, all the fight that came up with it was devastating. I hope there is gonna be no more problem, honestly. But I'm not gonna have any children, wife or whatsoever. I believe it's too much of work for me and I cannot stand it. I just wanna stay still and live in quiet peace.
>>29 Thanks. It's getting back to colder weather now in here. I closed the window, and I hit the sack after some reading. Good night. I'm not sure if it is night there now, though.
Hi Witch-san. I never received that letter. I am not at my desk this week-end. I am at an offline meeting with some people. Monday I will send you your password.
I have made mistake after mistake, but still Pink goes on. In the past, I have given caps to people that did not deserve them. People that were kind and nice to me on my thread, but on other threads they were trolls, and disliked by most of our community. Still pink lives on.
>>46 There were someone that had covered up your mistake. That's why pink still goes on even at this moment.
Ferum is not kind and nice to you on your thread. However he is not a troll. And I believe he is not disliked by the community. I recommend you to try to give a cap. That would make something better for pink.
>>47 I have always been polite to the doctor. It is true that I do not like Ferme, that is because of the two face attitude, but I am polite except for a few times that I have returned insults. Even then I kept the insults at a minimum. I know worse words then I used...w
Trans. ->>>54 I don't say that Jim must remove the persons who flatter him. They must be Jim's tranquilizer. Of course I know it.
But Jim always has taken good care of flatterer, and he always has not been able to accept those who say what he does not want to hear. And now, bbspink is abandoned.
Why this poor guy repeat the same failure? Why he runs away from the most important mistake? He is a true pitiable man.
I can say that. A human contracts an illness because of an excessive intake of tranquilizer, or because of an excessive stress. Balance is very important.
>>61 Perhaps... No. Because the sickness of BBSPINK is loss of species diversity. Species diversity cannot be recovered only by addition of my existence.
But I will be clearly one of a rare kind species(caps: ★）, as you know well. hehehe
>>63 I did not receive the email that was mailed from witch. Sometimes email goes to spam filter and spam filter deletes after closing the email program, it could just be gone with the wind.
>>62 hmm. I was the one that fought to have an okama, 801 and lesbian board. They are definately diversity. I even tolerate you, even though you are sweet to me on this thread and others you talk trash about me. Just relax, I am not anti you. There is room for all types here. I read all the threads everyday on at least erobbs. I rarely post. I see what you write and do not stop you or delete you. Take it easy, ok?
Baa, baa, black sheep, have you any wool? Yes, sir, yes, sir, Three bags full. One for the master,and one for the dame, and one for the little boy who lives down the lane.
Sometimes email is in outbox of your email client. You send it, but it does not connect to your email server for some reason. This might be your email client problem. Or even a spelling error. Please check this again.
>>75 In these, there are many remarks like that seems to be running fantasy to reality. "Live" "report" Crime in the threads (overtly obscene) seems to have been. "Had an indecent act in public in fact" and women were said in these threads.
You really OK with this? Do you not think a crime deterrent? "All the responsibility," What is it you think?
>>81 I only read post number one of each of those threads. It would take me all day to read the whole thread. I think my meaning is very clear. It is in line with the US law where are servers and our company is located.
Let me try more clearly.
Words that could be seen as a threat in the near future are not protected.
Example: Threatening a person with death, rape dismemberment, etc etc. This is is a real threat. You will not be protected by the law if you talk that way. It is at least assault when someone is threatened.
>>94 細井 ID:VN3AKzqVP and なまえ ◆s75v8Hmv1I are the same guy playing around under different name. he's kinda sticky guy, and appears to have some problem in making standard conversation. as always, pray not try feed trolls.
荒らしへの対処は荒らし報告してください。 または、荒らし相談スレッドで相談して下さい。 または、自治スレッドでの議論をお願いします。 管理人への直訴では効果は期待できないと思います。 ------------------------------------------------------------ Please report on vandal to the action of vandal. Or, please consult by the vandal consultation thread. Or, discussion by autonomy thread, please. I think the direct appeal to the manager is not effective.
>>82 Words that could be seen as a threat in the near future are not protected.
Example: Threatening a person with death, rape dismemberment, etc etc. This is is a real threat. You will not be protected by the law if you talk that way. It is at least assault when someone is threatened.
>>124 I guess it is some kind of record. It is not the approach, but the fact that it is lingering that is annoying to me. I just walked out of my neighborhood this morning. It is disgusting brown stagnant water now, on Sunday the water was clear, but the water has not receded at all, and now it is dark brown and green, with a nice rainbow of oil on the top. I am at my office now, but I will be going back to my house in a bit. There is no internet connection there, so I might not be online for a while again.
This is about 2 kilometers from my home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWxyI-Hsyp8&NR;=1 We did not have any flash flooding in my neighborhood, but two of the workers in my office have lost their homes. They said the flash flood was caused when the dams released their water in an effort to stop the dams from cracking. I have been searching the news, but have not found a story on that yet to verify it.
Can we lead to the regular board by halt-processing about the thread of Megami? You already said that we can't move from neet4pik.
ニー速(pink) http://yomi.bbspink.com/neet4pink/ Why do you handle a goddess thread specially? Though there is a special BBS of the specially installed goddess, you admit. As the simile cat and mouse game, too, I think that the decision to leave is no good.
I guess he has no enough resource to do anti-troll stuff. to me, making a bilingual moderator team appears the only way we can cope with currnt pink's chaos. we need some people understand pink's system(a fork of 2ch, perhaps?),speak english and japanese, honest and reliable.
About specifically "the board errancy" In any status, I think we should not approve to leave. Finally, It is the meaning which is the same as saying so. "If you violate in the rule,post at neet4pink with the self-responsibility."
I'm so worried about him. somebody said it's THIRD time he see his house flooded so I believe him to be still alive, but it's still so uneasy... maybe pink should have some stuff like SMS status update. that way we won't have to be like this waiting him to recover fully connected pc after floods came over again.
I am at my office now, but I will be going back to my house in a bit. There is no internet connection there, so I might not be online for a while again. ------------------------------------------------------------ わたしは今職場にいますが、少ししたら自宅に戻ります。 自宅にはインターネットがないので、しばらくはオンラインでないかもしれません。
Well, I have thrown a lot of bicycles away in my life. I just evacuated my family last night. We will start looking for a place to live. Thank you all for your kind interest. This is not my pc I am writing from, so I have not checked my email. Sorry about that. At this time, the servers are not crashed, I am happy. There is always discontent, that is the normal nature of things. Sometimes the loudest voice is not the correct voice to follow, I will be thinking about these things you have written. I hope to find an apartment by Monday or Tuesday. These servers are well taken care of. If they get busy, Please use Maru, you will be able to post well with that. I am thinking until the troll problem is fixed to make Maru a requirement on bbspink servers for posting. Does anyone have any comment on that? I will check this board and try to have my laptop by later today.
I am out of the flood area now. I should be able to be online everyday. As soon as I get a permanent location, then I will answer all the questions, render my opinions, and tell you my dreams.
>>161 It is ok, you will be able to read still, and that is still not decided. It is just a thought, but very soon Maru will be more popular we are almost done making something nice that will be free for Maru users.
>>169 Thank you for your concern. I really appreciate it. It will be some time before the water goes away. My family is ok, and better off then most in the flood area. I wish I could do more to help those that need it.
>>170 I believe that too. My mission is more important than me though. Everytime I am doing something important things like this happen. It seems there are powers that want to stop me always.
>>176 Home is where you hang your hat. The servers are home in the USA. Today I am wearing my hat, but soon it will be hanging again. Don't worry, the servers are safe and monitored 24/7 http://www.rebootmonkey.com/
Most of megamis, I think, don't have good way to get maru in the first place. Situation seems opposite in trolls, I mean those bad guys with plenty of time to play around with the systems can repeat the same account registration process over and over each time they are banned, so banning all attempt to write through maru and P2 maybe even a better solution. In that way no attempt can be made to post if someone's got ISP-banned, and it's still free(for us users).
Pink Floyd Money Money, get away. Money it's a gas. Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash. New car, caviar, four star daydream. Money get back.
Hi, Jim. I've been reading >>211. Most of responses are about group of trolls own and actively use Marus for their malcious posting, and expected great loss of users. Most of Japanese won't post on BBS that requires login(see slashdot.jp, which has up to 5 submissions/day or so unlike 2ch's thousands of posts and threads made each day) or payment. Credit cards aren't so popular here around, and with popularity of high-spec featurephones some megamis don't even own a PC so they may not be able to make payment in first place. Under circum- stance requiring Maru for posting is not a realistic solution. ◆EROyVmNwwM insists that ISP banning imay be inefficient but still working, so I believe decreasing speed of troll's posts and buying some time for ISP-Bbanning by disabling posts from both P2 and Maru should be more likely the way we'd take.
It is Mr. jim and Japanese user. Only as for making to charge, I want you to stop it. There is no room that can be paid even with little money now. Please do not make it to charge. Thank you very much.
>>228 I understand your feeling. I have felt that way before, but I have found that the small cost of Maru which has not had a price increase in ten years is about as affordable as it can be made.
Yes, just for clarification, what's the trolls we've been talking about? I'm guessing you mean ones distracting megamis, but that's not clearly stated to everyone.
>>238 Troll is a personality type for human beings. There is only one solution and it is permanent. So instead of a solution, we have to find a way to minimize the effect of these virulent individuals. While you guys are discussing. I will be testing various methods. Only trial and error will succeed.
>An encounter >Troll 4 >Thy opinion? >Fire3 >Thou cast a spell of Fire3 >Troll α hath been taken 352 damage >Troll α hath been slain >Troll β hath been taken 284 damage >Troll β hath been slain >Troll γ hath been taken 317 damage >Troll γ hath been slain >Troll δ hath been taken 329 damage >Troll δ hath been slain >Thou hast slain all enemies >Thou hast gained 4068 exp and 1508 pieces of gold
>>285 You have some good points, I am sure others have a different view, but interesting thoughts. I have some ideas on how to strenghen the regulation. They are being coded and will be tested. If I get a lot of complaints at that time. I will know it works... Cost is not an issue I think. We bill in dollars, and dollars are rapidly on their way to becoming the next Lira.
converting text from Kanji-Hiragana mixture to Roman is a one-way process, so it's not unnatural to feel difficulties in reading it. 「既知の事象」(known phenomenon) likely be converted to "kichi no jishou", however reverse-conversion candidates lists a lot; like 基地(military base)、既知(known)、吉(luck)、機知(wit)、or more for kichi, and 事象(phenomenon), 自称(self-professed)、次章(next chapter)、自傷(self-injury) and maybe even more.
There are some questions about the idea of your MARU obligation.
Why do you think that you make MARU indispensable to solve the troll problem? Isn't it possible to adopt other methods to solve the troll problem? Why did it become an idea to collect money from users? In the idea of your indispensable making MARU, besides, is there a reason? Is it a reason for money of management besides the troll problem solving? Why do not you think the translator and deleters are employed for a fee? It for is management and communication for this BBS.
You do want to collect money and abolish the bulletin board? We request a clear explanation from you if differing.
>>300 Maru is for making things run smoothly on bbspink and 2ch. It is not a huge money making thing, and very inexpensive. It is a way to discourage bad users, as they can be canceled and controlled easier. Of course I want to collect money, and no I do not want to abolish the bulletin board. Please use the word I instead of we. These are your questions my friend, please take responsibility for your words.
>>298 既知 = Already well known 既＝き＝Ki = previously 知＝しり-り I can't make the kanji alone, I have to type しり then erase り。 既知 Is this pronounced きしり？ 事象 ＝ Event 事 ＝ こと = Koto ＝ Thing 象 ＝ ぞう ＝ Zou ＝ Elephant 既知の事象 = Shiri the well known elephant.
My dictionary has the kanji you are showing me, but my input editor can't make them the same native way you make them. If I read this without your help. I read Shiri the well known elephant.
These questions are things to bring several opinions together. Therefore, it was written as not I but We. I do not have will the irresponsible remark. However, it apologizes if it hindered your nature. I am so sorry.
>>303 既＝きKi and すでsude = already 知＝りri and しりsiri and ちti = know 既知 = きちkiti = already known
In the Kanji, there are a lot of Japanese syllabaries. No do be known of an appropriate comparison it either. Michael Joseph Jackson.(マイケル・ジャクソン) Michael Schumacher.（ミハエル・シュマッハ）
>>Does not "Beer like the urination of the horse" have the word? ww You would say it like this. "This beer tastes like horse piss." It is a common saying. Is it common in Japanese as well? ビールの駒尿
>>322 馬の小便みたいなビール should be more accurate, though I've never heard of term like that. ビールの駒尿 means "beer's horse-urine". 駒(koma) is a bit old letter now used under limited situation, like 駒犬(koma-inu, sculpture of a dog in Jinja gates).
>>328 Supplementation Will you increase the number of those who delete it more? Will you think that the translator is necessary? Are they : even for a fee? Will you make it before deciding the MARU rule?
>>329 Deleters are volunteers, I am happy to increase them. Some of them have left because of a loyalty to someone else. They should reconsider that, even though my Japanese is bad. I am much more loyal to them that that other nameless person. It would be nice to have a Japanese translator. I think I posted a request for that a while back. There are Japanese employees at my company, but I do not force participation on 2ch, or bbspink. (Maybe I should), but they are not very sukebe oriented at least publicly, so I do not force that.
>>301 > Maru is for making things run smoothly on bbspink and 2ch. > It is a way to discourage bad users, as they can be canceled > and controlled easier.
I think it's not bad idea to softlanding curent abuse probrems. We should be going "High-risk" to "Middle-risk" bbs. It is recognizable roadmap for me.
>>340 Misuzuya-san, please tell me more of the roadmap you see. Your vision might be very good, but I would like to hear it. If you need to use Japanese only that is ok.
>>344 My intention is clear. It is to fix the vandalism problem to protect our 女神 board and other boards. I am testing many ways now. Maru is one way, and it is being discussed here now.
I am testing some new regulations now. If you have problems with them. Please report them here. I hope they will be seemless, and not affect the majority of our users.
>>338 直訳： -Do Jim san have access and authorization to control accounts with rude behaviour? -Are you planning to separate the account restriction of 2ch and bbspink? OR -Are you planning to ban the account for both sites if user is banned from bbspink?
-Maru is for ensuring the viewing of 2ch.net, and I guess it is ensuring viewing of bbspink as well?
>>351 I have access to the servers. I am discussing this and hearing everyone's opinion right now. I have not made any decisions at all. Currently I am testing some agressive settings on Pasegueno. It is only testing, but it needs to be done, because I want to control vandalism if possible.
>>363 'kay, I'm also not good at dealing with numbers, aside what about disabling post through p2? p2 users should still be able to post directly from their connection, while trolls can't use p2 to obfuscate their origin of connections or avoid limitations like minimum post intervals.
>>366 I was thinking about that, but I think p2 has a reporting system. I have the p2 id of the most violent one right now. I would like to report it to p2 so they can disable it. Lets try that first.
>>373 I can do that too, but the program will have to be modified. It is definately something that will happen fast. You are a good guy with very good advice. Thank you.
Hello, I'm Jim, BBSPINK admin. We're having multiple posts violating guidelines like <example addresses here> from p2-user: <uidhere>. Would you please revokethis user's posting permission?
>>346 Lastest goal is "fixed for managementable scale bbs for Jim". It is required for inform that you have a right to control writing permission. This is your bbs, Now you are exact true manager, I think. :)
Declaration your intention, "bbspink is middle-risk bbs" for users, again, again, whenever opportunity. There are many users who think that bbspink is "admin-less bbs".
>>392 It is important to understand that bbspink is not a moderated bbs. When the rules are violated and reported we do something about it. Thank you for your help and advice, it is appreciated. Can you tell me what you mean by middle-risk? Is that the shade between black and white?
I think what Misuzuya-san is saying is that people should acgknowledge and understand your presence at BBSPINK. Some are thinking that this site is admin-less board, thus Arashi occurs more often.
Jim-san, Let me know any message that you want/need to be translated to avoid mis-communication :)
>>398 Thank you for explaining that. I am so sorry I don't know that ratio. I think it might be something for debate, because each post would have to be judged and decided on. It would be very difficult to do that. Thank you for acknowledging me as admin though....:) I hope I don't dissapoint everyone.
>>400 Thank you too. I see your name everywhere as well. Thank you to all the people that are helping. I think things are starting to get better again.
>>403 直訳 >>393 glad "Shichihouyaki-san" showed with the attitude. He, himself has confirmed the information and there were no issue. Though it is not typical to report to that thread. But, bbspink.com's users can report. We have gotten a confirmation about that. GJ (Good Job)
Though we should report in typical way.
God.. I gotta ROM here for another 6 months? Can't follow some things in here:-p
>>407 My ignorance made the reporting not the usual way. I am sure others can do it better than me because of my language problem. If there becomes a big problem with p2 users, and the reporting stops working then I need to know.
>>362 So far Pasegueno has stopped fourteen bad guys automatically and the one that I reported to be bbq by Mr. Cloisonne manually. I don't think that is to terrible considering the amount of posts. It seems to weed out at least the worst, if not all of the worse, or worser...;) I really can't tell you the ratio though. Pasegueno has been active since Friday night, how many unique posters since Friday?
>>418 Thank you for your response. That number, 14, is far less than I thought it would be. What I meant to say was that there'd be so much of bad guys to make people to come directly here and ask you to do something against vandalism, but 14 vs 10k, 100k, or whatever more is really low enough to forget about ideas of agressive banning or actual ratio. thanks again for your response, and involvement in this issue.
>>420 They were just a very noisy few. I suppose at certain times of the year that number might be much higher, like around new years or the spring and summer break from school.
>>427 score ranges from 10 to 990. With 600 one can live in English, can may do basic jobs. It's a English ability test for non-natives. Native English speaker won't have much reason to try it. some Japanese universities require students to get some score on it, cuz they love exams, especially when they have definite goals like "score: 990" :)
Japanese loves exams and certifications :) BTW, even if you are native English speaker, it is difficult to achieve high score on TOEIC. Though with basic strategy, many non-natives can achieve 700 and up. I know this cause I used to tutor for this test lol It's all about strategy and basic knowledge.
>>437 That is not necessary. The Japanese sukebe words, don't all translate. There is much more thought that has gone into sukebeness in Japan then any other place I can think of.
>>432 O RLY? I agree that the test is about basic knowledge, but I doubt you ever need to look for stuff like strategy in it. Say "don't think. feel", it's a matter of how you can use your instinct to understand English.
btw, there's another quote I love. From peeps at US military; "Slow is Smooth. Smooth is Fast".
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>>439 If you have extensive knowledge and understanding in the culture,then yes. Though most people are after scores, not the knowledge so they can improve their career. You are right about the test requiring an instinct, but proper grammar does not equal proper spoken English. That is the gap people has to fill even if you are a native to achieve a high score. Just my personal thoughts...
BTW, great quote! It applies to many things like driving at race track :)
>>441 yes, better score better paid, but I believe by dropping off grammatical thinking taught in highscool, or by switching to "feeling", many japanese can get a good-enough english ability with better speed of reading and writing.
ところでなんで俺英語で書いてるんだっけ…
>>443 not so far from it. first quote is from a Hong-Kong movie star.
>>444 Yes this style is much better. Just say what you mean and don't worry about grammar. It will come automatically over time. This is very effective. It is how immigrants to the US learn.
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質問に答えて頂けないので、 mankatsuさんに書いて頂いた意訳を貼らせて頂きます。
Worst of Price is requesting board on different BBS to be shut down. Users has already mentioned that it is not under your control :)
>>444 I have to agree with you. I think learning the language and achieving a good test score is totally different. Higher score = higher pay is absolutely right. I learned my English the way Jim-san stated back when I first moved to the U.S. from Japan. ってかなぜ英語w 英語での談義だったらいつでも付き合いますのでよろしくです。 （スレ違いにならなければですが）
>>447 ＠直訳 Jim-san, ＞但し 通常通り報告しましょう。 ＞Though we should report in typical way. Above statement excludes you. As an "admin", confirmed that you can directly request.
People who respond to arashi is arashi. Arashi and users responding to each other can be called as "conversation". That is something arashi is desiring. When arashi and users are having fight like conversation, and when the thread is popular, please think deeply before any action.
>>449 Wow, we don't have a board like that on bbspink. Maybe the translation engine is wrong, but I am reading that they consider themselves a separate race.
Are you angry with me? Mankatsu-san is a nice guy. I am not sure if his translations will be good or not, but lets give it a try. If he paraphrases to much, then it might not be good. I am more interested in literal translations and if I still don't understand then paraphrase. Most of the time I don't ask for translation help because I am starting to understand except the newest slang that always comes out.
>>>453 mankatsu At first I didn't get why TOEIC on your cap, but it's feels like introducing yourself, so now I like that name.
If you had any recommendation for your translations, please let that people handle it. I've seen many translation volunteers left here because of conflicts in meta-translations, translations for casual word usages, idioms or popular words. From that each time you note your translations as "direst translation" I guess you've already got through similar experiences. Please stick on your style. Your effort is helping us a lot, and it'll be a big issue if you ever choose to leave here...
>>468 I forgot to add important stuff; -468 is a translation for latter half of >>465. -I see no nagative attitude from 465. Instead he's looking relieved.
>>466 I feel that the translator's existence is wonderful. There is a complex in English in the Japanese. I think that the translator is indispensable to PINK.
I think that the opinion of POE-san is similar to me. ------------------------------------------------------------ 日本語 わたしは翻訳者の存在が素晴らしいと感じています。 日本人には英語へのコンプレックスがあります。 PINKには翻訳者が不可欠とわたしは考えます。
私は高校生 苦手ですが書いてみました。 I'm high school student but I'm not so good English. 最初にダウンしたのはおそらくコアルーターでしょう。 maybe down is core rooter. そのために、ほぼすべてのサーバーにつながらなくなった。 Because all 2ch.net server can't connect from Japan.
Above are my response to POE-san, below will be the translation. >>Jim-san, There is no doubt that everybody on this board agknowledges your achievement on hiring a translator to talk to admin (about requiring translator★)
>>453 I first though why the name is TOEIC990 but the name do sound like an introduction and sounds good
If someone points alternative way to translate, please allow him to Due to difficulty translating slangs, metaphoric expressions, etc, a log of translators has left Looking at you including "direct translation", it seems like you have an experiece in translation, and please continue to "direct translate" If in case you leave, it'll be a big issue
>>483 Jim-san, The difficulty I am experiencing right now is deciding what to translate and what not to. ERO-san, POE-san and other CAP holders has been most helpful and considerate. I think we will discuss on what/when/how I will be translating so communication between you as an admin and cap holders can communicate better to discuss about this board :)
>>484 If I answer it in Japanese, I probably understood it. If I answer strangely then I probably misunderstood it. If I answer a Japanese post in English, then I probably didn't have the words in Japanese to reply, Please translate that. If I don't answer it at all, then I really did not understand at all.
The itsy bitsy spider went up the water spout. Down came the rain, and washed the spider out. Out came the sun, and dried up all the rain, and the itsy bitsy spider went up the spout again.
>>480-481 I thought that Korea was happy with Japan now that you changed your government. This also could be made worse by the agressive bot that msn is using right now. To build up their Bing.
>>466 Jim-san I aint angry. Ive worried about him. That was the words for immunity from responsibility to mankastu-san(>>465). Id like to just say to him "Don't be afraid to be commented upon how to translate".
Because it was proved that the deep word caused misunderstanding(>>466), we need mankatsu-san(translator). As for the translator, that you appoint is important. So You accomplished a great feat. And I must say strongly......I aint angry. :-)
>>396 > It is important to understand that bbspink is not a moderated bbs. Yes, but it is not known.
People forget immediately. They does not memory the things which is unrelated to its profit and loss. Regrettably, they read the rule when he regulated, because he think the rule is empty slogan.
Sadly, there are few people who understand your slogan. People who read this board is very few. Who read this thread is a little. Declare your slogan, again, whenever opportunity..
>>504 They have come to consider so, "The act is permitted in this bbs, because it haven't deleted by admin". Therefore, they have be stopping to read the rule and the law, only looks admin's face. But we are not their big mother... regrettably.
>>504-506 From the top of every hill and molehill I will proclaim this is an unmoderated bbs. It has to be unmoderated. Otherwise there is no immediate writing. Everything would have to be reviewed before it was posted. That would be terrible and tragic if it were to happen. So I won't let that happen.
It is an emoticon for the mobile phone, and so it is not a font. The Japanese Shift-JIS character code set has an EUDC code range. The mobile phone is assigning icons, symbols and emoticons there.
>>509 I am 0xf649 you showed me that. I will read it by the characters. It is really messing me up when I try to edit something. I don't have that on my computer.
>>513 there's no font containing valid set of emojis. they differs from cellular carrier to carrier(yes, carrier, not manufactuturer), and there's no unified open standard for that. some of different emojis has duplicate code between carriers. Google is trying to put them onto unicode, but there're a lot to do. iPhone is supporting emoji for SoftBank, and there may be some chance to extract them as a font. or except for that, I don't know how to let PC show emoji. that's a big mess.
>>543-544 Hi Witch. I am sorry that your computer was broken. I don't know how to recover your trip. There are programs you can download that could help with that, but the ones I have tried did not work. They just ran and ran and ran, but never found the one I was looking for. I can recover your ★ but the problem I have is proving you are you.
---Excitement translation--- It is not possible to write it in bbspink in the p2 service. Generation around 0 o'clock of today
In p2, an external board (Bbspink is included) is not official official correspondence of 2ch though it is ASP service. However, I had been embarrassed because it doesn't write it yesterday though it was possible to write normally. When the explanation or measures of the reason that cannot be written can be done, it is welcome. -----
looks like p2 is not available for post through to BBSPINK. since last midnight.
p2 is an official ASP service from 2ch. posting to external board like BBSPINK isn't supported, but it worked well with pink till yesterday. I'd like to hear some explanation or solution on this issue from you.
>>548 I will check on it. It could have been caught in one of the blocking programs. Don't worry if it is we will fix it. There was a p2 problem last night with one of p2's customers. That might have caused it. Abuse, from one ip can trigger an automatic event. Let me clear the log, and see if that fixes it. If it is caught again. Let me know.
>>549 As you say, it is not officially supported. If it works though, that is great. The logs will clear and we will see if it works. I need to have the blocking on at this time for other reasons. If p2 is picked up and turned off automatically I can not help it.
>>556 The log is cleared, except for one server that Pink has been repeatedly attacked on. Lets see how it works. I have forgot my p2 account. Would someone like to test it?
>>561 It is a lot of pressure to be the translator. Thank you for translating too. Maybe mankatsu has quit already? He is a volunteer translator so it might be he is just busy with his work.
>>554 p2 is turned back on all the servers except for Venus. We are a little short on hands. Right now I am using cats hands. When there are more people that are interested in volunteering then we can turn p2 back on Venus. It will have to be monitored.
overview of above Due to me not being able to write to bbspink even with ○ from certain network, I am mostly doing the translation at the office. Since I am located in the U.S., I will mostly be doing a translation during Japanese evening, early in the morning. If Mr. >>567 and I can split the work, and if he is in different time zone, we might be able to cordinate together for smoother translation.
>>576 I think the guys on that board are a little more sophisticated, and know better how to deal with a troll. If it becomes a bigger problem let me know. I can try regulating it again.
>>587 That is an ongoing problem with open proxy. There is a thread about that on the operate board. Maybe you could help them by contacting them and seeing if they can fix the problem.
>>589 It has been a problem for a long time. They have serious security problems. Please bug them to much. It can not hurt, and about 2% of the users of bbspink would be so thankful to you, if you got success.
this is desirable tendency that more nice friends transrate his English. I can now understand what Jim-san said although all I did for English was to get 700 on TOEIC.
It is good to have help. Thank you for the help. I will try to keep my English level at 700 TOEC. That should not be hard for me. It is probably my level natively.
>>609 直訳/translation Well... I wasn't really intending to say something like that. And I don't know if he is being sarcastic or not with his reply (>>608) Just wanted to say "great work" to translators
>>606 More people in translation is really lucky to me, for now I can get Jim-san's word with my limited English ability in the level of 700 TOEIC.
>>609 Umm... that's not what I meant... In the first place I can't tell whether that's sarcasm or just I couldn't get him what I tried to say. Anyway, big thanks to translators.
>>612 Translation for last 2 lines Don't think too much about it.... Score of 700 I believe is a great score. We are not trying to write piece of literature here. You were able to read >>608.
>>616 Translation Jim-cchi http://set.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1254956250/ No conclusion has been stated regarding to the disccusion about ●. Ero has stated that it won't happen this time (>>719 on above thread) Isn't it necessary for you to explain how you came up with the conclusion? Your remark has made users on each board to jump around. Can you explain the situlation clearly and clear this mist? Even without CAP, please do not forget that joining discussion about operation and governing is equal as other volunteers.
>>611 I was not being sarcastic. I think 700 is probably a very good score. More than that and your english will be spoiled and soiled by to much good grammar. You will end up sounding like you are from Boston.
>>561 >Abuse, from one ip can trigger an automatic event. Isn't it possible to make that system also automatically un-ban targets, say after 3hrs?
>>>567 >When there are more people that are interested in volunteering >then we can turn p2 back on Venus. It will have to be monitored. So would you do something about p2 trolls if I'd tip bad guy here like >>576?
>>622 Yes, TOEIC requires knowledge of grammer and how smoothly deal with large amount of questions. not required sence of humor or sarcasm. in this means, my level is only 700 on TOEIC. I'd like to study abroad...
>>561>>628 Yes it is completely possible. Unless that IP is on the permanent burn list. From to much abuse. Right now I have venus on that list. I have received nothing but favorable comments directly for doing that. That server is the only one that is set aside. p2 is set to always allow right now on the other servers. I did notice the the vandals on venus just moved to other boards on other servers after the ban. For the last two days our 女神 have danced and pranced without to much trouble. I am sure it will come again, but for now, that emergency is solved.
>>642 oi, wha' the matter with Jim "the complete responder" ignoring >>617? smells badly.... there should lies all your weakpoint lol ↑ translations please
translations: >>664 Hate vandalisms, not people at BBS operation. If you're from 女神 board, first make vandals difficult to go wild and let people have mature behavior. If you're from 半角文字列, hate vandalisms. It's not operators just making friendly fires.
>>665 you mean you can "enlighten" people in an anonymous BBS?
>>666 >>>663 are you saying we'd wait till Jim-san hire some watchers? I don't really get what he's trying to keep watched, but I want troubled users at 女神 to do that job.
>>668 Sounds like what's not good isn't keeping P2 locked out but target of ban hasn't been expanded further.
>>669 >>>667 We collect them, ban them, problem solved. Internet cafes, proxies, or even direct connections we ban if there's a good amount of vandalism.
>>664 I don't hate management. As far as I can tell nobody is banned. Honestly I don't even understand p2, nobody has taken the time to explain it to me. I don't know what it is useful for at all. The only one that has ever mentioned any of the uses of it to me is Dr. Ferm, and her doktor did not say much about it then.
>>666 That is not going to happen. I don't even have enough money to pay the electric this month. That would make it a moderated board. If it was a moderated board it would not be good anymore.
Says morning. Says morning. "" The people of the 617 questions. "" There are answers in 658 tons! It's not the potential is still there. What I also need discussion thread on things you said. ERO away but in his final remarks, "This time I know it's there, if I want to discuss Dozo" What Nde was like, depending on the question What is Ne Daro yeah.
"" Read 680 comments, a little relieved w Place at least for now,下衆thing to realize is that my suspicion is likely no.
Free, but asked me at various Toko, the weight you want to understand your remarks. Beginning and end, based on the circumstances leading to it and if possible, to discuss the proposals and you waved to residents鯔 The answer always seems to need some. I'm wondering if it is still good and I wonder.
What a great wall of words I once again. On it, we thank you again for translators
Maa, they take you from still hard, yes One "has sealed a dog"
Says morning. Says morning. "" The people of the 617 questions. "" There are answers in 658 tons! It's not the potential is still there. What I also need discussion thread on things you said. ERO away but in his final remarks, "This time I know it's there, if I want to discuss Dozo" What Nde was like, depending on the question What is Ne Daro yeah.
"" Read 680 comments, a little relieved w Great number thing to realize is that my suspicion is likely no under Place at least for now.
Free, but asked me at various Toko, the weight you want to understand your remarks. Beginning and end, based on the circumstances leading to it and if possible, and to discuss the proposals and you waved to residents mullet The answer always seems to need some. I'm wondering if it is still good and I wonder.
What a great wall of words I once again. On it, we thank you again for translators
Maa, they take you from still hard, yes One "has sealed a dog"
>>I'm the one who asked question on >>617 Thank you for answering on >>658! So there's still a possibility. Therefor, we need to discuss this on the thread. Ero's last comment on that thread was "I don't think it'll happen but go ahead and discuss it", and asked questions because it shouldn't be like that.
After reading the comment on >>680, I felt more comfortable. At least for now, my low life, groundless suspicion wouldn't come true.
I know that it's been said in many places, but please understand how important your statements are. How it starts and ends, and the processes behind it, I feel as you need to reply in some way to the subject you threw to volunteers. If you haven't decided yet, that's fine as well.
Language barrier is difficult. Considering that, thank you to the translators.
Well... though you guys are doing a great job, so here is.. "I have a dog" sticker
>>692 I have read this whole thread with a translator help. http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1251817013/ It does not really say what it is for. They do have some awesome volunteers on that thread that are serious and pay close attention to details, but I want to know how I have hurt people by protecting that one server from 2p, and will 3p be better? .
>>691 p2 is like a 2channel viewer that you can use from a browser. When threads or board is busy, you can read/write in the thread. Reading is free, and if you do want to write on the board through p2.2ch.net, you need to pay 1,000 Moripota (2channel's currency) per year.
You can use p2 from Jane, or any other 2channel browser as well.
This is like [One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest] www
Vintery, mintery, cutery, corn, Apple seed and apple thorn; Wire, briar, limber lock, Three geese in a flock. One flew east, And one flew west, And one flew over the cuckoo's nest.
>>696 Yes, so please don't be upset if you got a strange answer. It is not my intention to be insulting, I just want to understand it. By the way, that was a truly wonderful movie. What a sad ending though.
>>695 Ok, that is a very simple explanation. So how does it differ from Maru? Also, if this is for Busy server control how come a % does not go for server maintenance?
>>699 I'm currently reading through p2.2ch.net and only difference I see is that with p2, your browser logs in to the p2 server (at datacenter where 2ch.net is), p2 server collects necessary data just like how 2ch.net browser does, then sends information back to user's browser.
I still have not found out any difference between ● and p2. I'm going to be asking question to volunteers.
＞＞ボランティアの皆さん 初歩的な質問で申し訳ないのですがp2と●の違いを教えていただけますか？
Also regarding to % going to server maintenance, I have no clue but can try to find out. This service is still a β version.
>>700 translation >>695 I'm not upset w I am on the same page as you are. That's why I thought we needed a translator and glad it happened. "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", the original was really good as well.
Overview of conversation flow (for Jim-san) talking about automated perfect translator. I think it's not going to happen for a while, or at least until we enter Robo-cop age. To do the perfect translation, "thinking" takes important role, thus to make an AI to think, we mostlikely will need another 20~30years.
>>703 ● is officially supported, because it helps pay for the cost of everything. p2 will be supported as long as it doesn't cause trouble. Trouble comes from ● too, but at least it helps cover the cost.
>>704 Don't worry about it. It is better not to look into it. They will get defensive and not help us with the important things we do need help from them with. Our site is still very much dependent on their good will and when they "accidently" stop helping it is always a disaster.
>>714 Yes I see. We have not violated any p2 rules with our current block on the venus server.
Attention of the p2 use - p2ご利用の注意
* 現在、βテスト公開中です。サイトの機能は予告なく変更、更新されることがあります。 It is the test public whole β now. I change the function of the site without a notice, and there is an updated thing. * 何らかの不具合が生じても、当サイトは責任を持ちえません。 Even if some kind of malfunction occurs, this site cannot take responsibility. * 予告なくサービスの停止、あるいは、定員により利用を制限する可能性があります。 It may limit the use by a stop of the service or capacity without a notice. * p2からの書き込み時には、ユーザーIDを2chに送信しています。荒らしユーザーは、アカウントを停止することがあります。 At the time of the note from p2, I transmit user ID to 2ch. I damage it, and the user stops an account. * 書き込みには、モリタポ（年間1000モリタポ、缶ジュースより安い）が必要です。 モリタポ (cheaper than 1,000 a year モリタポ, can juice) is necessary for a note. * 2chの規制によって、書き込みができなくなる可能性もあります。 By regulation of 2ch, a note may not be possible. * 不具合報告、各種お知らせはp2.2ch.netスレで → p2.2ch.netをスレタイ検索 不具合報告、各種お知らせはp2.2ch.netスレで→p2.2ch.netをスレタイ検索 * 一定期間（例えば1年）以上、利用されていないユーザーのデータは削除する可能性があります。 More than (for example, one year), the data of the user who is not used may delete it for a certain period of time. * その他いろいろ、こちらでまとめられています → 2ちゃんねる公式p2使用上の注意（p2Wiki） In addition, attention in the → 2.ch formula p2 use compiled here in various ways（p2Wiki）
wow, ever imagined this thread goes this fast :) I think p2's competance is in its front-end. I own no Maru or P2 account, but I see many users of smartphones, PDAs, and other limited ability devices answering question "what's the best 2ch browser on this?"with "I'm using official P2". so I guess it just works on any device in any OS, as an ASP. That's important, because there're some 2ch board difficult to browse and navigate directly through web browser, and sometimes people gets their ISP temporallily banned and want to get around it, and sometimes they want to write through anon proxy. Definite reason why P2 and Maru coexists are not in my knowledge, maybe just because they have different origin. anyway these things do happen in 2ch.
>>721 Yes that is obvious. I got very good support the two times I asked for help on the p2 thread. However it is still beta, and probably they are still discussing how they will block banned ISPS. I could not imagine them wanting to allow people to get around those bans so they can commit vandalism.
>>722 じむさん、忙しくて大変だと思います、ありがとうございます > * p2からの書き込み時には、ユーザーIDを2chに送信しています。荒らしユーザーは、アカウントを停止することがあります。 > At the time of the note from p2, I transmit user ID to 2ch. I damage it, and the user stops an account. ユーザーアカウントのストップで規制してください、おねがいします
>>726 I appreciate your efforts, you are a good guy. Deletion is hard on the server and the load goes up, then we need more servers. Will p2 buy us servers?
>>719 >Yes, so this is primarily for people with smart phones? not only ON smartphones. also for people with lots of threads to watch and want to have device-independent bookmarks and history. I've never heard of 2ch browser support device synchronization. so it's available on a really wide range of devices, it kills needs of syncing, and it need no installation steps.
>Maybe they are already banned for a reason, and should not be allowed around it. ISP bans uses a big target. many innocent users will be kept banned till ISP do something against troll and request unban to 2ch. imagine if 2ch bans "*.isp.com" because there's no way to identify trolls from other users. p2 doubles steps to kickout trolls indeed.
>I have an idea. Maybe p2 should use that block list as well. Then it might >be more functional for us. I agree with that. p2焼き and per-server p2 lockout is kinda bit of overkill. but as you have previously mentioned it needs lot more volunteers.
>Thank you so much for enlightening me on it. my pleasure.
>I had thought that the maru worked well with ula.cc > >Are you sure it doesn't? This page looks to me like it was built >specifically for smart phones. >http://ipn.ula.cc/ sorry, I'm using q2chwm, a dedicated 2ch browser, on my phone, so I've never tried them.
>>731 No, I was not talking about that, although I am sure there is a billing regulation attached to your merchant account that requires you to keep your billing information for a number of years. I don't know the exact requirement in Japan though. This is what we are in agreement with.
>>I have an idea. Maybe p2 should use that block list as well. Then it might >>be more functional for us. >I agree with that. p2焼き and per-server p2 lockout is kinda bit of overkill. >but as you have previously mentioned it needs lot more volunteers.
>>731 Don't get me wrong. I am not against maritupa. In fact I have just made something I want to use with it for the bbspink users. I just don't know how to connect to it, or collect money from it. Can you help me with that? I was thinking to put Maritupa on this. http://2moshi.com/
>>736 hehehe I don't seem to be getting a profit from anything lately. I would say this year sucks. No I have nothing from p2. If it is just causing problems, then it is no benefit to bbspink to have it on.
>>744-745 Yes, I have noticed the pace pick up. These are profound words that you have etched on my thread. Part I can read, part I can translate, part are not translatable by machine. I do appreciate your endorsement to what I have done. It is not clear if you are supporting the protection I have given to our local divinity, or just one of my answers to tricky posters. Definately, I want to know more about you though.
>>745 >>721 Jim-san who has researched on the current situation of Megami board is talking and most arashi was from p2... Of course there are people using it normally
>>726 I think it's a great test? If arashi is utilizing p2 as a way to come back and arashi again, then ban the account? I think it is also a good idea to keep on banning the p2 account If arashi keeps on opening new credit card, he/she can't pull out loans from a bank in the future and also, arashi can't create new card at one point
Above translation is a response to >>746 on being clear. I think >>745 is supporting your current way and also discussing about alternate solutions.
>>754 Direct Translation Arashi is different board to board. The arashi who has been talked often was once a regular arashi. Though residents of the board made too much noise, came to operation board, Jim made a faulty decisions and the result is what it is right now. No need for being sympathetic.
>>755 Direct Translation >>746 Since the position is not clear, he can hear the voices of everyone. If everyone on here are praising Jim-san, there'll be people who can't write what they want to write. With biased view, understanding the situation becomes biased as well. Even planning to move to "certain decisions", debates are required. And then, we'll move to the right direction and becomes better. I hope you understand that we are being corporative with you.
Hello,Jim-san Which do you like a coffee or a tee? I like a japanese tee! Do you understand English that I write this page? English is very difficult for me I don't use English dictionary now!v(^-^)v GOOD★BYE jimjim
>>754 Is there a problem with right now? Please explain what the problem is. You don't have to kiss my ass on this board. I listen to plenty of people here who have bad breath.
>>759 translation for everyone to smile :) >>757 With tea I like coffee and drink tea I like "tits job" like Kaneno County Chinese tea. Also, it is known as Kung-Fu tea. Best tea I met at Japan, Kyoto's Gold Temple.
>>764 hehehehehehehehehe That was with the google translation engine. This is what I wrote.
I prefer coffee to tea, but when I drink tea. I like Tit Kumya chinese tea. It is also known as kung-fu tea. The best tea I ever had in Japan was at the Gold temple in Kyoto.
>>768 That might be a spelling error. I have never seen its spelling that is just how I hear it. It is tea named after a female buddha, Kumya. That might be a spelling error as well, and I think she was Chinese so there is probably a character for it.
>>775 775 Name:名無Shi editorial staff [sage]: 2009/10/27 (Tues) 18:25:15 ID: wUZ9w06w Neglect is the result of six months from Do not need to think way back to the original as soon Shikanai will return over time on the treatment of severe long once And I do not think this treatment is easily
This is the translation. It is not clear. The subject is missing.
774 Name:名無Shi editorial staff [sage]: 2009/10/27 (Tues) 18:23:33 ID: Hj2tNcqc (3) Now only reckless thing, teach the human mind does not think about things after
772 Name:名無Shi editorial staff [sage]: 2009/10/27 (Tues) 17:49:59 ID: Hj2tNcqc (3) Perhaps a little because I converted Chigau English site I think many people come out next issue It's an owner you have the right, all things must be carried out carefully Please understand the things that run on the Results of this I think is easy
773 Name:名無Shi editorial staff [sage]: 2009/10/27 (Tues) 18:08:31 ID: CSJVHxY9 (3) "" 772 Easy to understand if you write an issue that might come out here now
Direct Translation >>772 It might be different as it was translated by automated translating site. But... I think there will be more issues coming up. You are the executive officer with all the rights, and must move on with caution. Please act fully understanding that fact I believe this incident was a compromised result
>>773 >>772 If you write possible issue that might come up here, easier to understand.
>>774 I am not willing to tell someone who only looks at present, and not future
>>775 This is a result of abandoning for half a year I believe there are no ways to go back to the original state We should have strict rules/regulations and fix it as time goes by I do not think that this decision was a result of compromising
Jim-sanへの補足説明/Additional info for Jim-san You might already know this, but >>772 is addressing about certain arashi that has been an issue for megami board and believes that how/what you have replied to the arashi made the situation worse.
>>784 Please ignore them maybe they will go away. Do not reply to them that makes it worse, You become arashi too. Arashi is like a troll, and vandal is something different. It seems like a troll. Eventually he will find the place that he fits in. You can also report deletion requests to the housekeeping board. That is staffed by volunteers, sometimes they are very busy. Please understand that.
>>789 It is not a setting, it happens automatically from Pasegueno. p2 is treated like individual poster by the system. I guess there are certain times of the day when it has more use than others. >>791 Thank you for translating.
>>796 名前：POE ★ [sage]： 2009/10/29(木) 10:48:48 ID:??? ---------------訳--------------------------------------- >>792 Roger that. Pasegueno has dealt with p2 posts as a spam restriction As far as you know, how many times has this happened? First time?
Pasegueno has restricted arashi's continuous posts as spam・Restricting p2 as a spam from proxy Will the restriction go after certain period of time? (and if so, how long?) Jim confirms IP of an arashi, or if it's p2, go through the log and point out an account Request Pin-point-Yaki, BBQ (form of deletion, I am translation 2chan deletion wiki but will take time) If you set IP address on Pasegueno and restrict the postin, it'll be better if you post that information (on 2ch.net, there is "not yet? not yet? http://qb6.2ch.net/_403/madakana.cgi）" (Utilizing host's name using all mighty (\), restricts the host that arashi could potentially use and reduce the risk to other users)*
When IP that is banned on Pasegueno tries to post, is error message they get "you are restricted"? If Paseguena does not tell poster about the restriction, the claims to Jim-san does not reach him As long as they get the fact that the error message is from Jim-san, then it should be fine "Pasegueno has sucked in your post. We can change the message to something special and unique like.. "If you are clueless on why, please repost after a while(?)" But for now, we don't know what error is from Pasegueno and what's not
Talking to myself I wonder how pasegueno is working Is it in between or from the back Do I have to purchase for detailed description? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>797 I don't have anything against p2. It is a problem I think because they are still in beta. They are not sending the proper header. It all comes from the p2 server like it is a proxy. I guess it is a proxy, and they are sending an additional assigned ip for the poster with his p2 id. This however is not in the right format. It should be sent first. Probably it should be as a vpn account where they "dial" into the p2 server, and issue those "ips" to the user at that time. It is not my problem though. I am sure they have many engineers working on it. I can smell the smoke coming from their ears as they gears spin.
>>800 no, many people could recognize it I believe. The word is known as, the name of a car (HONDA), and something related to a (a little old?) cinema.
We've got a massive ban in 2ch. I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to provide any translation support for some time, maybe more than a week. Ban list below. http://qb6.2ch.net/_403/madakana.cgi
>>804 I think that comes from the error pages that are currently on the server. Or transfered to another server for it. We could put a link to pasegueno on those pages but, I am not wanting to touch them. Proxy is proxy and if it is not set correctly it gets denied. It is better to move the p2 project to the next level, then to put up with the garbage because it is still beta.
>>809-810 If trip★ is what Jim-san want. A matsuri's behind this ban. not just usual trollhunt. my post above made by kindful ppl @2ch. I still have no posting ability. mankatsuさん、後は頼みました.
Especially because it can be used to go around the regulations. That is why it has been turned off automatically. It will work fine tonight because I set it to allow, but when I wake up it will be set back to normal, and probably there will be many complaints abour arashi and vandalism tomorrow. The regulations are very tight today >>807 . If there is vandalism tonight, probably it is without even checking from p2. Arashi is not vandal they are just trolls without a billygoat to put them in their place. I don't like the regulations sometimes either. I used to use Comcast. It is one of the biggest cable tv companies in the USA. I disliked the whole network being regulated, it made me feel like dirt.
>>841 I can't today... Tomorrow the next typhoon will come here. http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/0921.html I have the staff and the ability to do that. It is not something I considered since we already have Maru, and p2 as well. My head is full of ideas on the subject, but they are only ideas. We have not planned or done anything of the sort. I do see the major flaws of the p2 system, and Maru as well. Probably the power will be out tomorrow, so I will think on it more. Hopefully it won't flood again. The cookies turned out well. I wish I could share them with more people. Mostly the kids that trick or treated got them.
>>847 I am just going to look out the window and be online until the power goes out. The typhoon might go south of here. I am watching the tracking, and it looks like it is going to go directly over Cavite, and not Manila.
Hi everyone here. one of my connection has un-banned. At the end I didn't make contact with Jim-san. one reason was I'm yet to find e-mail address for him, another is uncertainity from whether I can serve you well. If people here just ok with me doing some rough translations without a cap, I'll be back on it.
>>851 Thank you for understanding. I can't just give out CAPs. Although you seem very cool. I want to know who they go to from now on. There is a big list of them, and I know less than 1/2. Thank you for looking into the mobile phones too. It is something we can change the world with if we do it right.
[852] ◆EROyVmNwwM <sage> 2009/10/31(土) 17:55:13 ID:QXmvu8Yt BE:1217408494-2BP(80) >>851 I think cap's just a cap, and nothing so much to fear of. Of course many people dont't think that way. personally I want you to have a cap...
I've just got up with an idea of rental-Maru. it can be used to avoid bans, and sometimes we an't avoid need of log archives.
[857]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/05(木) 06:27:58 ID:5i1BrGXY Agreed. Trolls take any measure to maintain posting to secure their last fortress, Megamis and people don't need to stick to this place. It's clear which will remain on board with this lockout, I think. Are you doing it intentionally?
[858]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/05(木) 07:02:48 ID:t3Qzc3UG nearly 1k LR violation in short period If the lockout is an action against it just keep on fighting
you're leaving it halfway done. they take it light.
[860]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/05(木) 10:13:14 ID:KQm59WwY Megami board is so fourtunate, for Jim-san is taking good care of it. Wouldn't you do something about Dojin board?
[862]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/05(木) 12:08:36 ID:28P+Ftx7 >>856 We have to ban all of p2, Maru, and ISP troll's using.
>>864 [856]名無し編集部員<> 2009/11/05(木) 05:31:30 [857]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/05(木) 06:27:58 He actually used an unblocked open relay to post the ones that he posted. That one is also blocked now. I know there are more, but one step at a time. [858]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/05(木) 07:02:48 I will paraphrase Ero-san. "Let's regulate them..:)" [860]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/05(木) 10:13:14 Please show me some examples. Your board is so quiet here. I did not know there was a big problem. [862]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/05(木) 12:08:36 We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? p2 is an openproxy it is not getting any special treatment anymore but it is not banned. Except for one server the venus server. Maru is benign. It is very useful in fact for accessing the server during peak and busy times. It does not mask or hide the users ip. It does have the drawback of not allowing a user to post if he is on a blocked network. That is a separate problem, that I am working on with a lot of people.
Hi Jim-san. mostly ok. relieved to hear that joke... btw my phone's touchscreen died suddenly. WM5 w/o touchscreen! how painful...
translations >>877 [877]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/05(木) 21:43:41 ID:d48FDZ4d So, is >>862 an only solution after all? I've seen him posting from 20 different proxy in a short time.
(note: >>862: attempt to associate all of troll's Maru ID, p2ID, IP addr from speculation and ban'em all)
>>878 [878]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/06(金) 00:39:12 ID:7SX1B35E >>869-876 Thanks. [9G0cL6axM2ZakYcn] should be his Maru ID, right? discard Maru account purchased with that crapitcard and let him not buy new one again, jim-san
>>880 Sorry about the phone. Maybe you can get your data by docking it with your computer. The data is the most important thing. The phone is just tech.
>>884 [884]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/06(金) 12:13:00 ID:6Gu8pwtZ http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1245494500/513 ( [513]マァヴ ◆jxAYUMI09s <> 2009/11/05(木) 15:35:35 ID:23/xEPiq0 BE:356382252-PLT(34445) *important* nearly 6 years from the last time, there'll be a modification in Maru auth system by NTTech(^_^;) There may be authorization failure during mod is performed. I'll notice again when completed.
>>868 Next time you find something presumable proxy, read page below and first do something standard user can do. http://info.2ch.net/wiki/index.php?Boo2008 in case that didn't work, then raise it a problem. I don't think it's good to rely everything on Jim-san.
There are many system for bans, and they're complexed. We have people with good knowledge and wisdom. I believe asking them for help is a better way to go.
>>887 [887]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/06(金) 13:05:54 ID:oxZjsVW3 don't Maru make Boo meaningless
>>890 [890]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/06(金) 14:59:40 ID:TpDA+Y3V He's appalled cuz he (looked like) dug it with no consideration
There's no doubt Jim-san following guideline he has in mind! believe him! >ERO
*sarcasm against Jim-san*
>>891 [891]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/06(金) 15:03:12 ID:yF8M+7ZJ Jim-san dug it just because one user wanted to know whether that's a Maru-and-proxy That's a big issue
>>892 [892]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/06(金) 15:16:28 ID:cdqn3vTr It's a repeater case. I see no problem there.
>>893 [893]名無し編集部員<sage> 2009/11/06(金) 16:16:32 ID:6Gu8pwtZ 2ch's ban operators seldom do these "WANTED" thing. and dig it quick. even more often if Maru look like used
anyway Boo2008 is a good tool. try when you found trolls. although it can't auto-identify all proxy
Please correspond because those who delete it about the loess deletion of the getting [cchineta] lobby are situations of the absence, and situations of the oak when the deletion shoots it. Please correspond because those who delete it about the thread deletion of the getting [cchineta] lobby are situations of the absence, and situations of the oak when the deletion shoots it.
"チャンク" does an evil deed during these past 6 years
Even if the チャンク says with the "pretense" critic review that not only the painter but also the resident makes the target, by a bad-mouth, "put it on the high-level thread if you picture a picture"; when "annoy you if picture such a picture", say in being selfish;, anyway, guts are bad; arrogance, selfishness. I am hopeless.
The chunk changes ID and composes by myself and plays myself even if not had anything to do and shows totally one's behavior that a friend is in the target
I forget to change ID sometimes, and self-playing has come out, but the person himself say an excuse when "ID puts it on because it is the same apartment"
Even the measures thread of the チャンク is taken over by a chunk; in a thread for exclusive use of the チャンク
Because the thread only for the log deletion has been left in deletion absent person's situation in the past of the PINKchannel,I amvery embarrassed. It asks for. Please correspond because those who delete it about the loess deletion of the getting [cchineta] lobby are situations of the absence, and situations of the oak when the deletion shoots it. Please correspond because those who delete it about the thread deletion of the getting [cchineta] lobby are situations of the absence, and situations of the oak when the deletion shoots it.
Would you either provide original untranslated text or stop using automatic translator bastard? Translated text output from computer program is not suitable for presentation with its questionable grammatical validity, accuracy, and quality. Thank you for your understanding.
------------------------------------------------------------ >>918 Because the thread only for the log deletion has been left in deletion absent person's situation in the past of the PINKchannel, I amvery embarrassed. It asks for.
Please correspond because those who delete it about the loess deletion of the getting [cchineta] lobby are situations of the absence, and situations of the oak when the deletion shoots it.
Please correspond because those who delete it about the thread deletion of the getting [cchineta] lobby are situations of the absence, and situations of the oak when the deletion shoots it. ------------------------------------------------------------ To be honest, I'm sure what I could get is less than 30% of what he's trying to say. I have no idea what the f*** is the kind of "oaky situation". I also have no idea how many lols I'd have to type.
>>918 We are now recruiting motivated volunteers. Maybe there is no volunteer for your board. If I just go through your board deleting things. I might delete something important. There definately needs to be someone to volunteer to be involved in it. It is a problem we have right now, Ero-san and others have been helping a lot trying to find a good solution. You might talk about it on your board on an appropriate thread.
>>925 Why don't you start by discussing with a trip on this board. After a little while we will get to know you. Being a deleter is an important function, and others that are known here need to vouch for you. Soon you will be in conversation with the ones that will help you learn how.
>>938 Please forgive me for all the questions. I guess I have become a little paranoid. I will go to sleep now, but thank you for talking with your trip here. I hope that you can continue discussing on this board with other people.
wow we have a new guy! good to see you, nanashi-san.
>>942 [942]post by volunteer at Nanmin<> 2009/11/07(土) 23:07:08 ID:shV3D16q On absence of deleter: 76,219,301,320,325,331,332,384,385,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,400,405,406,464,465 of http://qiufen.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/pub/1209923227 , plus http://unkar.jp/read/qiufen.bbspink.com/pub/1227387451 Can't I ask you to delete just these? they are for speaking ill of specific person, contain unnecessary discrimination and bad language cause discomfort of other visitor. The person is now thinking about killing himself so wouldn't you please delete them? I understand this your situation, but I really need them to be deleted so please.
>>948 [948]RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★<> 2009/11/08(日) 07:55:45 ID:??? >>944 はい、それを反映してください。 "Do you tell it to leave him loose?" というところはよく意味が分かりません。
>>946 I don't know which res he want deleters to うふ〜ん. I also recommend to post it on housekeeping board with prescribed format. But, even deleters can not erase the real event of the past.
>>946 I read logs at >>942, and I'll write additional comments,
They use nickname on other website, and there are no real name or detail address These are not perticularly helpful information for anyone who don't use the website.
The dating site itself might have problems, but it's a different issue. So I think it is still a normal conversation.
On absence of deleter: 76,219,301,320,325,331,332,384,385,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,400,405,406,464,465 of http://qiufen.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/pub/1209923227 , plus http://qiufen.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/pub/1227387451 Can't I ask you to delete just these? they are for speaking ill of specific person, contain unnecessary discrimination and bad language cause discomfort of other visitor. The person is now thinking about killing himself so wouldn't you please delete them? I understand this your situation, but I really need them to be deleted so please. Where is the housekeeping ( cleaning)board?
Because it is the Shino situation, I ask here that can talk with , Jim for whether a delation person of the thread for exclusive use of the past log deletion hits it now. I prease ask.
It asks here because it is an oak when shooting it though the deletion request has already been done here once. There is a person who thinks about the suicide. It asks by all means.
一応、毎日チェックしてると言う話だ。 ＞ 550 名前：ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★[] 投稿日：2009/06/23(火) 09:33:38 ID:??? ＞ I have a thread on the housekeeping board. ＞ http://babiru.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/housekeeping/1240182945/ ＞ Please post deletion questions there. I monitor it daily.
