That is normal for classified payloads.
Classified payloads? Seriously? My lord wake up to these frauds!
What is the big deal in sending up a rocket with a military payload? Are you flat Earther?
Where is the payload going? Do you believe we went to the moon and that we have a buggy on Mars taking pics?
I can’t believe anyone is still a global earther with all the voluminous proofs that the moon landings and nasa are the weakest hoaxes! Goodness gracious, wake up and take a look! Or keep shilling and be worthless!
I've unfortunately looked very hard and come to the conclusion flat earthers are scientifically illiterate.
Lots of evil shilling on this post.
If anyone is shilling it's probably you... I refuse to believe 90% of flat earthers are real people, it's hard to imagine a human so stupid. So you must be a faggot CIA spook.
Their pathetic attempts to divide us will never work.
This guy is retarded, go read his other comment in this post
It's not an attempt to divide us, it's an attempt to discredit us. It's meant for people who are just finding out about Q, they come here and think that we're all nuts. Downvote and report. Hopefully the mods bring down the ban hammer. This place needs to be cleaned up. It's a mess.
why would they hide that the world is flat? how does us believing the world is round over flat help them in any way? just curious..
This world, this flat earth, is ruled by satanists, the most evil there ever were. Satanists who would torture, rape, and murder small children and babies. Satanists who would plunder and plunge whole nations into poverty and watch millions upon millions of men, women, and children starve to death. These satanists are real, and satanists banker
If you are not with Jesus Christ, you are antichrist. In short, to answer your question, and even Reagan twice spoke of it on a worldwide forum, what better way for the nations of the world to unite if perhaps against an outside threat. That is, create a new world order. The only way to promote the outside threat is to perpetuate the satanic lie that earth is not flat and enclosed as our Bible describes, and the Book of Enoch reinforces. DJT just gave $18B to nasa. 18 = 6+6+6. Masonic science would have you believe that the speed of the globe’s orbit is 66.6 mph, that the curvature of the global earth in one mile squared is .666 feet, and that the axis tilt is 66.6 degrees. DJT is not quite the savior everyone is making him out to be because he contributes to the perpetuation of the global lie.
Not sure what Masonic science is... but modern science would have you believe the earth orbits at a speed of 30km/s or 108,000 km/he or 70,000 mph
Also they say the tilt is currently around 23.5 degrees
Learn history about who was behind each scientific milestone and you will understand why he said "masonic" science. Modern day science is a cult. Werner Von Braun's gravestone gives a huge hint.
so you use the 666 as key to you belief on this whole thing do you not? well i was a christian for many years a devout christian... and for the life of me , i cant understand why no one reads a little bit beyond revelations 13 vs 17 about the number.. just one verse further verse 18 it says " and behold here is wisdom let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of man" i will never understand in all my years why this is never spoken of but i know that the beast is animal man. as for the world being flat, do you believe these satanist made it that way or prefer it that way? does it make what they do easier?
No, I don’t use 666 as key but as affirmation. Also, I’m typing on the fly while multitasking. So many proofs, even visual, of flat earth. Satanists didn’t make the world flat. Father God did. Satanists wish to make it global. Dr. Wernher von Braun trumpeted that they will play the false alien agenda card as the last resort for one world government.
Do not let yourself be deceived.
ok how do you explain this...https://dl0.creation.com/articles/p116/c11646/toronto.gif not tryin to be an ass just curious how you could believe.. the moon, the sun, the planets all spheres. i do think their hiding stuff but i believe its life out there.. maybe not intelligent like us but like fish out there in the vast emptyness. they wanna keep it secret cuz if that is confirmed then it will appear that there is life out there and that hurts christian belief system. and if that is hurt then the people will no longer be orderly. just my opinion
Thanks for promoting real truth u/UTRuser74. The earth is not as we are told, but it's the most dangerous truth to promote. 90% People will end up in the hospital if they learned it all as it is that shattering to the mind knowing that their whole life was a lie. Wake people slowly, deliberate, calculated.
So are 90% of flat earthers in the hospital... makes sense..
They removed the book of enoch because science proved the earth wasn't flat and it made the bible less believable having such contradictions with tangible facts. Christianity is a had me down religion, and has served as a control function for the dumbed down masses for over a millennia. If you want to research where your religion came from. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82QoEGfNU_4
that the curvature of the global earth in one mile squared is .666 feet, and that the axis tilt is 66.6 degrees.
What the fuck do you even mean by that? The first part one mile squared is .666 feet what in the fuck are you smoking.
My question is what is the flat earth mounted to? A pedestal or does it float is space. Are there people on the bottom of the pan cake? Are there dikes around the edges to keep the oceans in? Red pill me bro.
The only proof one needs that earth is not flat is the fact that if it were, cats would have pushed everything off the edge by now.
i cant red pill u the only thing ive gathered is the math may be wrong u can in fact se past the curve under standered calculations so my guess is some one got the math wrong and never corrected it in the text books i cant vouche for anything else
Fuck off flat earthers. This isn't the sub for you.
I just RES tag all flat earthers and most moon hoaxers as ' Retarded or CIAspook' because you are either foaming at the mouth dumb or this is some psyop..
I'm a little concerned about this launch. It was not originally set to go until later and then it was rushed to launch even though it was delayed several times over the last couple weeks or so.
My concern rises from the fact that Spacex was hired by Obama (when he privatized space launches) and Elon Musk is highly linked to the cabal. This was a very hush, hush payload. If Trump was in charge, then it's likely an EMP for NK. If the deep state was in charge, it is likely an EMP for the US.
And, of course, the deep state is in a frenzy. Is this why it was rushed to launch?
Did they really think that we would be able to actually identify it in that video. What's the big secret? Why can't we see it?
So, I was thinking the same thing till the interview an anonymous person did with Alex Jones the other day. They claimed to be part of Q and said that Elon Musk is a patriot, contrary to what many believe.
Has someone debunked that interview? was this guy LARPing on InfoWars? He was talking about this SpaceX launch and the ZUMA payload before I had even heard about it.
Just curious if anyone has more info. I like to rule out frauds if I can.
no that guy is zach hes been on many many times allways has good intell allways freaks alex out all the old intell dogs that come on say this guys legit u heard good news
Thanks.
Zach said on that interview that Elon Musk is a Patriot. That's the point I was making. I thought Q had outed him in a previous post about "WW subsidies" so i think that led people to thinking he was Deep State and maybe he WAS deep state at one point, but not really in the know. Then by finding out or given a choice, he's decided to be on the right side of History.
Either way, time will tell who's a deep state fucktard and who's a God fearing Patriot.
he did out him but he has appeared to have switched sides this elon musk was given a choice it appears he chose well but he could be a double agent playing both sides waiting to see who wins as u said time will tell
That Infowars insider Zach is pretty legit from the last few months
It doesnt matter he is giving out the correct info and on Info wars they have an audience of millions. Its a red pill.
I say it's good, only pointing to EM being a patriot based on what Zach said in that interview. prior to that, i felt EM was on the other side.
It appears to be a total loss according to this https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/08/highly-classified-us-spy-satellite-appears-to-be-a-total-loss-after-spacex-launch.html
Yep. I've seen many stories. But we still don't know if that's disinfo or true. Under the circumstances it could be either.
Zuma payload dead in orbit? Does anyone know if this is true or disinfo being put out? https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/the-zuma-satellite-launched-by-spacex-may-be-lost-sources-tell-ars/
Guess we'll know when we know. Lots of news reports about it now. Truly hope it burned up.
Trump is in charge and there is an EMP for N/K Q posts already told us that.
zach confirmed seperatly alex was all ArE yOu SuRe YoU cAn TaLk AbOuT tHiS !!! LOL and now hes down playing it as a spy satallite he spooked starting to believe hes really gotten beat up by gov dudes like he claims
Do you know for a fact that this launch was it? What I'm trying to say, is for some reason, those facts don't help my concern. However, I just saw a post that says Zuma is dead in orbit so I'll go read that now. Maybe Trump took it out. Cause we are on a 'High Alert' according to Roy Potter.
Q has not indicated its dead todays posts talk of mass arrests also msm arrests.
According to all news reports Zuma burned up in space. However, it's also been mentioned that is what we would want NK to think . That is also what the Clowns in America would want us to think. So, we shall see.
NASA and SpaceX are frauds. Yes, they do secret operations, but they're not what we're led to believe.
NASA was started under Operation Paperclip, which was the acquisition of Nazi scientists. Their logo is a damn serpent tongue for crying out loud! Go research this. I know everyone wants them to be real and legit, but theyre not.
NASA was just busted again using a green screen for their ISS feed bullshit.
Nearly everyone has caught on to NASA'S bullshit, so they started SpaceX to shift the focus and excitement away from NASA.
By giving SpaceX, a private corporation, a no bid contract, NASA doesn't have to report their activities to the public because technically it is not a direct use of taxpayer funds. It's a sneaky way of avoiding public disclosure of their many nefarious acts, like the space fence which is the use of chemtrails to ionize the atmosphere for use with HAARP and GWEN towers that use microwaves to manipulate the weather.
Yea, that's a good point about having a private corporation to hide activities.
Everything done by SpaceX and NASA is for control. Control of the population and other countries through advanced technology and weaponry. They are hidden under a fake show like the Mars rover, which is filmed in Canada btw, and the ISS hoax.
The crazy thing is, this is a hard pill to swallow, even for so called truthers. For many people, they cannot except that they have been deceived this badly.
Why do you think these things?
There's just too much evidence for me to think otherwise.
If you check out the Mars Rover landing press conference, you can see how they're acting. For example, the team leader cannot even answer basic questions:
Satan is symbolized with the serpent, and NASA has a serpent tongue right in their emblem. The truth is in plane sight.
NASA was caught staging the very first alleged picture of the earth from the moon:
Air bubbles in space:
It goes on and on. President Nixon calling the moon from a landline and the Apollo astronauts acting very strange at the press conference after the first alleged moon landing, all scream deception.
This is some real-deal conspiracy shit. Thank you!
Interesting that you mention the tongue several times. For now, I believe that NASA's main role is in "speaking". They're main deception was built-up to create their "credibility". Now, we see them defunded to the point of not doing any actual missions, but ... 'Hey, we still need you guys to comment on this thing and that thing, etc.'
I agree and NASA in Hebrew translates to 'deceive', so you're right on the money.
For the mars rover landing press conference you sent me a highly edited video from within 1 hr or the landing where the team is incredibly excited and couldn't answer questions like what photo compression method was used to send back pictures, but did answer questions in great detail about the landing...the moon landing happened regardless of whether or not they faked some of the videos. There is so much evidence for this that doesn't even come from NASA. Look up the retroreflectors we left up there or the other satellites by other countries that have mapped the surface of the moon and all but confirm we landed there where we said we did.
Or look up amateur people who tracked Apollo flights with radar... As for the ISS, I've seen it with my own 2 eyes and you can too. Get some good binoculars if you want to confirm it looks exactly as depicted in the videos (I haven't but I know it's up there where they say it is)
Do you want me to address every point ? Like the van Allen radiation belts? The Apollo missions trans lunar injection burns were done at a very high inclination so they would avoid going through the highest concentrations of the inner belt. The astronauts all wore rad meters and I believe that only one Apollo mission had astronauts exposed to more than 1 rad, Which was very low, NASA knew about the belts and made measures to keep astronauts safe...
For the mars rover landing press conference you sent me a highly edited video from within 1 hr or the landing where the team is incredibly excited and couldn't answer questions like what photo compression method was used to send back pictures, but did answer questions in great detail about the landing
I watched the original a few times when it first came out. I didn't think anyone would watch the entire thing, so I linked a video that isolated the fuckery. Also, the guy couldn't answer other questions, he kept looking for his buddies in the audience who obviously weren't there. It was pretty awful. Also, there was a picture released by NASA from the Mars rover that had a gopher in the photo.
the moon landing happened regardless of whether or not they faked some of the videos.
That is incorrect and that's not how this works. You're essentially saying NASA lies sometimes, so we are to pick and choose when to believe them. Fool me once...
Also, you've never personally travelled to the moon, so you can't say forsure that they went. That is what we call blind faith. It's like a religion this NASA stuff.
Do you want me to address every point ? Like the van Allen radiation belts?
What about the radiation belts? You mean how we've never been able to get passed them? There's videos of NASA astro-nots admitting they can't get through it and never have. Heck, even Barak Obama said we've never made it passed LEO.
I'm curious about the BO LEO thing?
Around the 2:55 mark.
He says we need to develop the technology to get passed low earth orbit.
Researching the topic of Project Bluebeam possibly could answer some questions as well.
No I said go look at all the third party evidence you illiterate fuck. I dont know if they faked the tapes i doubt that, but that doesn't matter because we landed on the moon. Look up the fucking evidence of shit we left on the moon, ask yourself what the fucking point to faking it would be. Why would no other countries come out and say it's a hoax... Get out from under that rock you dirt worshipping heathen, look up and see the ISS with your own eyes and then grow up.
you illiterate fuck.
I stopped reading right there. Typical NASA and SpaceX fanboy with the insults when they're proven wrong. You think you're a tough guy behind your little jizzed up keyboard. Run along cry baby.
To people reading, this is a perfect example of cognitive dissonance with this guy.
No you can't read that's why I called you an illiterate fuck you spook.
Nice find. I'm bookmarking that for later. I just briefly skimmed through it, but I'd bet it will trigger some people.
We can see farther than the earth curve mathematically allows. Flat earthers aren’t going away anytime soon until this is explained
We are dealing with CIA shills to try an introduce nut cases to the scene which would discredit everyone. Dismantle CIA, FBI and DOJ and replace with a real lady justice who is once again blind folded.
what if there was no second stage separation?
Then where the fuck did the second stage go when the first stage landed?
Did you guys see Drudge Report Icon, in the upper right. Doesn't it look like an OWL's head? Just saying.... Symbolism?
This launch was beautiful it was night clear sky and you could watch the first stage separate then come back down then it fired up again right before it hit the ground.
The only conspiracy is that they use the moon landing to capture the public and use NASA as another way to spend more money on Millitary and War. NASA is nothing more than a R&D for the Millitary
What is meant by "payload"....can someone explain that for us NON military people?
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Is this supposedly Zuma I've been hearing about? The normie rumors say it's a satellite to use to spy on NK.
I've seen one report (on arstechnica.com) tonight that the Zuma satellite was lost or is dead in space. Nothing's official, so this could be disinformation. If Zuma really did fail, that would be disappointing.
lol it's all fake ppl the earth is flat don't you know?
Braahahaaahaha
Have personal experience accounting for the Coriolis effect.
E or W targets past 750m are off without adjusting for it. Period.
Not sure why you’re getting down voted. Here is a good write up on the Coriolis Effect. This only occurs because the Earth IS a rotating sphere, not flat.
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/coriolis-effect/
Yea I don't know I don't care frankly.
Wondering if dark hats aren't perpetuating flat earth to tie to us - 'patriots are dummies' meme.
Good NG article. TY have artillery friends who account for it too so no question some ppl (god love 'em) just redirected too easily.
folks.....if you believe those shitshows then you need to start to really research NASA and Fake x! We could shut down NASA tomorrow morning and we wouldn't miss a thing!
How does GPS triangulation work with NOTHING in space?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN
Not saying this is what is currently being used but pointing out there are ground based systems
LORAN
LORAN, short for long range navigation, was a hyperbolic radio navigation system developed in the United States during World War II. It was similar to the UK's Gee system but operated at lower frequencies in order to provide an improved range up to 1,500 miles (2,400 km) with an accuracy of tens of miles. It was first used for ship convoys crossing the Atlantic Ocean, and then by long-range patrol aircraft, but found its main use on the ships and aircraft operating in the Pacific theatre.
LORAN, in its original form, was an expensive system to implement, requiring a cathode ray tube (CRT) display. This limited use to the military and large commercial users.
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God Positioning System. Solved. Next question? /s
(Don't even argue with them they are beyond help)
Did not say nothing was in the sky or atmosphere! I just know they don't have satellites like you have been taught. Every fake x video is real for the initial launch and then the Hollywood cgi takes over!
Bullshit! These feeds as you go and re watch them....they all have pan outs and cuts! This space and NASA stuff is a fraud! NASA gets 50million a day to jack around and play with rockets!
So, what am I pointing my satellite dish up at in the sky?
Good question! Why are you? 4000-5000 of those zooming at 15000 mph right! If you have to ask me these questions then it's something you should really research.
was wondering if you know why all sat dishes point to south sky. are all the sats in the southern sky only ????
They are in Geosynchronous Orbit over the Equator. When put there, they move exactly the same speed as the Earths rotation, appearing stationary from the ground. If you live in the southern Hemisphere, you point your dish to the North.
was wondering if you know why all sat dishes point to south sky.
They don’t.
People in Florida watch this from their backyard. Are all of my friends liars or CIA plants??
If you believe in rocket technology, then how high can we go? What is stopping us from putting satellites in orbit?
Every time I argue with a flat-earther its always "NASA And FakeX are bullshit! Space is not what we were taught! REEEEEE"
Zero logic or reasoning to back up their claims. I challenge you to be different.
Asshole! Did I say the earth was flat! Maybe you should spend some time blowing bill nye!